Re: workaround for VMware WS NAT bug triggered by OpenSSH 7.8p1 changes

2018-12-26 Thread Yuri Pankov
Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: > Yuri Pankov writes: >> There's apparently a bug in VMware Workstation NAT implementation, >> [...] The patch itself is attached. > > Could you please open a differential and add me as reviewer? https://reviews.freebsd.org/D18636 And there's already a PR for this:

Re: workaround for VMware WS NAT bug triggered by OpenSSH 7.8p1 changes

2018-12-23 Thread Cy Schubert
In message <865zvkpphn@next.des.no>, =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rg rav?= w rites: > Cy Schubert writes: > > I know our code is full of workarounds and theirs probably too. The > > question is should we? IMO no. > > Unfortunately, the world is imperfect and does not care about your >

Re: workaround for VMware WS NAT bug triggered by OpenSSH 7.8p1 changes

2018-12-23 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Yuri Pankov writes: > There's apparently a bug in VMware Workstation NAT implementation, > [...] The patch itself is attached. Could you please open a differential and add me as reviewer? DES -- Dag-Erling Smørgrav - d...@des.no ___

Re: workaround for VMware WS NAT bug triggered by OpenSSH 7.8p1 changes

2018-12-23 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Cy Schubert writes: > Hmmm. I guess Red Hat Enterprise Linux must be a toy OS then. I don't speak for them, but I assure you that both their code and ours are full of workarounds for bugs in third-party software and hardware, and it is ridiculous to claim otherwise. > No. We do like Red Hat

Re: workaround for VMware WS NAT bug triggered by OpenSSH 7.8p1 changes

2018-12-23 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Cy Schubert writes: > I know our code is full of workarounds and theirs probably too. The > question is should we? IMO no. Unfortunately, the world is imperfect and does not care about your opinion. 90% of the hardware we run on deviates from the spec in some way or another and requires

Re: workaround for VMware WS NAT bug triggered by OpenSSH 7.8p1 changes

2018-12-23 Thread Cy Schubert
In message <86pntszlae@next.des.no>, =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rg rav?= w rites: > Cy Schubert writes: > > Hmmm. I guess Red Hat Enterprise Linux must be a toy OS then. > > I don't speak for them, but I assure you that both their code and ours > are full of workarounds for bugs in

Re: workaround for VMware WS NAT bug triggered by OpenSSH 7.8p1 changes

2018-12-23 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Cy Schubert writes: > Add it to ssh_config or sshd_config if one must but have VMware fix > their bugs. Putting workarounds in our O/S to work around a bug in some > other vendor's virtualization is something I don't support. It's something we do *all the time*. Otherwise we'd just be a toy

Re: workaround for VMware WS NAT bug triggered by OpenSSH 7.8p1 changes

2018-12-23 Thread Cy Schubert
In message <861s681ypd@next.des.no>, =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rg rav?= w rites: > Cy Schubert writes: > > Add it to ssh_config or sshd_config if one must but have VMware fix > > their bugs. Putting workarounds in our O/S to work around a bug in some > > other vendor's virtualization is

Re: workaround for VMware WS NAT bug triggered by OpenSSH 7.8p1 changes

2018-12-23 Thread Cy Schubert
In message <82004750-097a-47e5-9981-86b4b7a5f...@gmail.com>, Enji Cooper writes : > > On Dec 22, 2018, at 1:03 PM, Cy Schubert = > wrote: > > =E2=80=A6 > > > Regarding the Red Hat bugzilla bug, looks like they're doing the right > > thing by reaching out to VMware. This should be our position as

Re: workaround for VMware WS NAT bug triggered by OpenSSH 7.8p1 changes

2018-12-22 Thread Enji Cooper
> On Dec 22, 2018, at 1:03 PM, Cy Schubert wrote: … > Regarding the Red Hat bugzilla bug, looks like they're doing the right > thing by reaching out to VMware. This should be our position as well. > Add it to ssh_config or sshd_config if one must but have VMware fix > their bugs. Putting

Re: workaround for VMware WS NAT bug triggered by OpenSSH 7.8p1 changes

2018-12-22 Thread Cy Schubert
rotected-headers="v1" > From: Yuri Pankov > To: Cy Schubert > Cc: Mark Peek , Enji Cooper , > Warner Losh , =?UTF-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=c3=b8rgrav?= > , freebsd-current > Message-ID: <0503b382-d886-39a4-d265-b43d8adc1...@yuripv.net> > Subject: Re: workaround for VMw

Re: workaround for VMware WS NAT bug triggered by OpenSSH 7.8p1 changes

2018-12-22 Thread Yuri Pankov
protected-headers="v1" >> From: Yuri Pankov >> To: Cy Schubert >> Cc: Mark Peek , Enji Cooper , >> Warner Losh , =?UTF-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=c3=b8rgrav?= >> , freebsd-current >> Message-ID: >> Subject: Re: workaround for VMware WS NAT bug trigg

Re: workaround for VMware WS NAT bug triggered by OpenSSH 7.8p1 changes

2018-12-22 Thread Cy Schubert
> To: Cy Schubert > Cc: Mark Peek , Enji Cooper , > Warner Losh , =?UTF-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=c3=b8rgrav?= > , freebsd-current > Message-ID: > Subject: Re: workaround for VMware WS NAT bug triggered by OpenSSH 7.8p1 > changes > References: <20181009.wbmk9h5t050.

Re: workaround for VMware WS NAT bug triggered by OpenSSH 7.8p1 changes

2018-12-22 Thread Yuri Pankov
Cy Schubert wrote: > In message <913730b6-c6f0-60b8-a589-e89e872b7...@yuripv.net>, Yuri > Pankov write > s: >> Yuri Pankov wrote: >>> In-Reply-To: l.gmail. >>> com> >>> Mark Peek wrote: On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 9:30 PM Enji Cooper > wro= >>> te: =20 > >> On Dec 21, 2018, at

Re: workaround for VMware WS NAT bug triggered by OpenSSH 7.8p1 changes

2018-12-22 Thread Cy Schubert
In message <913730b6-c6f0-60b8-a589-e89e872b7...@yuripv.net>, Yuri Pankov write s: > Yuri Pankov wrote: >> In-Reply-To: > com> >> Mark Peek wrote: >> > On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 9:30 PM Enji Cooper wro= >> te: >> >=20 >> >> >> >>> On Dec 21, 2018, at 17:48, Yuri Pankov wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Mark

Re: workaround for VMware WS NAT bug triggered by OpenSSH 7.8p1 changes

2018-12-22 Thread Warner Losh
On Sat, Dec 22, 2018, 11:03 AM Yuri Pankov Mark Peek wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 9:30 PM Enji Cooper > wrote: > > > >> > >>> On Dec 21, 2018, at 17:48, Yuri Pankov wrote: > >>> > >>> Mark Peek wrote: > Thanks for the cc:. I forwarded the original report on to an internal >

Re: workaround for VMware WS NAT bug triggered by OpenSSH 7.8p1 changes

2018-12-22 Thread Yuri Pankov
Mark Peek wrote: > On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 9:30 PM Enji Cooper wrote: > >> >>> On Dec 21, 2018, at 17:48, Yuri Pankov wrote: >>> >>> Mark Peek wrote: Thanks for the cc:. I forwarded the original report on to an internal VMware desktop product contact. >>> >>> Thank you. >>> What

Re: workaround for VMware WS NAT bug triggered by OpenSSH 7.8p1 changes

2018-12-22 Thread Mark Peek
On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 9:30 PM Enji Cooper wrote: > > > On Dec 21, 2018, at 17:48, Yuri Pankov wrote: > > > > Mark Peek wrote: > >> Thanks for the cc:. I forwarded the original report on to an internal > >> VMware desktop product contact. > > > > Thank you. > > > >> What version of Workstation

Re: workaround for VMware WS NAT bug triggered by OpenSSH 7.8p1 changes

2018-12-21 Thread Enji Cooper
> On Dec 21, 2018, at 17:48, Yuri Pankov wrote: > > Mark Peek wrote: >> Thanks for the cc:. I forwarded the original report on to an internal >> VMware desktop product contact. > > Thank you. > >> What version of Workstation or Fusion is this occurring on? I saw >> Workstation 14 mentioned

Re: workaround for VMware WS NAT bug triggered by OpenSSH 7.8p1 changes

2018-12-21 Thread Yuri Pankov
Mark Peek wrote: > Thanks for the cc:. I forwarded the original report on to an internal > VMware desktop product contact. Thank you. > What version of Workstation or Fusion is this occurring on? I saw > Workstation 14 mentioned but curious if it occurs on Workstation 15 > (latest). Running the

Re: workaround for VMware WS NAT bug triggered by OpenSSH 7.8p1 changes

2018-12-21 Thread Mark Peek
Thanks for the cc:. I forwarded the original report on to an internal VMware desktop product contact. What version of Workstation or Fusion is this occurring on? I saw Workstation 14 mentioned but curious if it occurs on Workstation 15 (latest). Mark On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 4:19 PM Warner Losh

Re: workaround for VMware WS NAT bug triggered by OpenSSH 7.8p1 changes

2018-12-21 Thread Warner Losh
I've been hit by this as well. At least two others on IRC have had the same issue. Warner On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 5:10 PM Enji Cooper wrote: > > > On Dec 21, 2018, at 3:55 PM, Yuri Pankov wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > There's apparently a bug in VMware Workstation NAT implementation, made > >

Re: workaround for VMware WS NAT bug triggered by OpenSSH 7.8p1 changes

2018-12-21 Thread Enji Cooper
> On Dec 21, 2018, at 3:55 PM, Yuri Pankov wrote: > > Hi, > > There's apparently a bug in VMware Workstation NAT implementation, made > visible by the change to default values of IPQoS in OpenSSH 7.8p1, > making all ssh connections from the guest behind the NAT to fail with > obscure

workaround for VMware WS NAT bug triggered by OpenSSH 7.8p1 changes

2018-12-21 Thread Yuri Pankov
Hi, There's apparently a bug in VMware Workstation NAT implementation, made visible by the change to default values of IPQoS in OpenSSH 7.8p1, making all ssh connections from the guest behind the NAT to fail with obscure "Fssh_packet_write_wait: Connection to 192.168.1.53 port 22: Broken pipe".