Re: Why no CDR ioctls for SCSI cds?

2000-08-22 Thread Warner Losh

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike Meyer writes:
: Do you claim ownership of all the drivers in cam/scsi, or can someone
: with more tolerant religious convictions add a driver that's a clone
: of the CD driver + MMC extensions that gets first crack at CDROM
: drives, and recognizes MMC drives, but not others?

Ken wrote the cd driver as well as large parts of CAM.  Chances are
good that what you are calling religious convictions were actually
hard fought engineering decisions that have the backing of hard
experience plus many more "details" that Ken might not recall off the
top of his head but that lead to his views.

Having said this, if you can come up with a foolproof way to get the
ioctls right on all the drives that do support them, even the whacked
out ones that need all kinds of quirky entries, and do it in a way
that doesn't needlessly bloat the kernel for little gain (few people,
in the scheme of things, have cd-r or cd-rw on their machines and use
them to burn disks), then he might reconsider his views.  However,
much of your posts have had an "airchair quarterback" feel to them and
unless and until you have working code, nobody's opinions are going to
change.

Warner


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Re: Why no CDR ioctls for SCSI cds?

2000-08-22 Thread Christopher Masto

On Mon, Aug 21, 2000 at 10:50:11PM -0500, Mike Meyer wrote:
 Christopher Masto writes:
  I'd rather see cdrecord work on ATAPI CD-Rs.  burncd gives me a lot of
  trouble.
 
 As cdrecord isn't part of FreeBSD, this is clearly the wrong place to
 ask about that. Joe Schilling watches [EMAIL PROTECTED], and
 that's the place to ask.
 
 I've been told that ATAPI CD-Rs use the same basic command set (MMC)
 as SCSI ones, only they don't have legacy problems - so it should be
 possible.

Actually, that's why this would be the appropriate place.  cdrecord is
designed to do that sort of thing - it separates out the driver
interface and has several already, including support for Linux's
"ATAPI over SCSI".  It just doesn't work with FreeBSD because our
ATAPI driver doesn't make available the low-level communication it
needs.  But whatever.  I've personally decided to give up on it
and get a SCSI CD-R at some point.  I'm just confused by the desire
to avoid cdrecord, since in my experience, it has worked great.
It also has a lot of nifty options.
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Re: Why no CDR ioctls for SCSI cds?

2000-08-22 Thread Mike Meyer

Warner Losh writes:
 Having said this, if you can come up with a foolproof way to get the
 ioctls right on all the drives that do support them, even the whacked
 out ones that need all kinds of quirky entries, and do it in a way
 that doesn't needlessly bloat the kernel for little gain (few people,
 in the scheme of things, have cd-r or cd-rw on their machines and use
 them to burn disks), then he might reconsider his views.  However,
 much of your posts have had an "airchair quarterback" feel to them and
 unless and until you have working code, nobody's opinions are going to
 change.

You may well be right, and there are good technical reasons for not
doing this. The only real reason that's been presented for not doing
MMC is that all the non-MMC drives might cause a support
headache. There are sound technical reasons for *not* doing non-MMC
drives, and Ken and I agree on that.

If the answer from the person who would have to approve the code had
come back "Ok, provide the code and we'll see how well it works in
practice", I'd do the code. But when it appears the code would never
make it into the tree to be used, why waste my time?

mike



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Re: Sound support in -CURRENT

2000-08-22 Thread Munehiro Matsuda

From: Ruslan Ermilov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 13:04:46 +0300
:: Hi FreeBSD fans and developers...
:: 
:: This is my first question in -CURRENT.
:: 
:: Yesterday was the first time I tried to follow the -STABLE line. And I must
:: admit that once again FreeBSD amazed me ;)
:: 
:: Running -STABLE rite now (I used to run only -RELEASE before cause I'm
:: haunted by the feeling that the upgrading process will be very complicated,
:: but that's my mistake... The upgrading process was really simple and easy...
:: ;) )
:: 
:: Now to the real question...
:: I have a Compaq Deskpro EP system with onboard Intel 810e AGP VGA Card and
:: onboard sound support (which maybe is AC97 or something similar). After
:: running -STABLE I can use my VGA Card. How about the sound card? Does
:: - -CURRENT support the sound card? Cause if -CURRENT can make my sound card
:: sings, I'd love to give it a try. After all, this isn't a production
:: machine.
:: 
::Not yet.  Dan Moschuk [EMAIL PROTECTED] is working (?) on the driver.

There seems to be some work done in Japan. I'm not sure if it works
for 810e, but try:
  http://www.katsurajima.seya.yokohama.jp/ich/ich.c.gz

The HomePage is in Japanese, so you have to guess what you have to do. :-)

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Re: Why no CDR ioctls for SCSI cds?

2000-08-22 Thread Matthew Jacob


 If the answer from the person who would have to approve the code had
 come back "Ok, provide the code and we'll see how well it works in
 practice", I'd do the code. But when it appears the code would never
 make it into the tree to be used, why waste my time?

'coz we're taking a page from Linus.




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Re: Why no CDR ioctls for SCSI cds?

2000-08-22 Thread Warner Losh

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike Meyer writes:
: You may well be right, and there are good technical reasons for not
: doing this. The only real reason that's been presented for not doing
: MMC is that all the non-MMC drives might cause a support
: headache. There are sound technical reasons for *not* doing non-MMC
: drives, and Ken and I agree on that.

Actually, the real reason is that MMC drives that mostly support the
standard, but do it wrong in ways that are hard to detect.  Those are
going to be the worst to try to support.  There are some drives out
there that just hang when you issue them certain MMC commands, as an
example.  They shouldn't but they do and you have to be careful not to 
send them these commands.

: If the answer from the person who would have to approve the code had
: come back "Ok, provide the code and we'll see how well it works in
: practice", I'd do the code. But when it appears the code would never
: make it into the tree to be used, why waste my time?

I think that you overstate ken's reluctance.  If you can come up with
a good way to deal with this and have a good error mechanism for those 
drives that don't support this then I think he might (and I repeat
might) be talked into it.  I've found Ken quite accepting of code in
the past when I've gone to the trouble of doing something.

I've found in the past that working code has a way of making people
reconsider their opinions of things.

Warner


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Re: Why no CDR ioctls for SCSI cds?

2000-08-22 Thread Mike Meyer

Matthew Jacob writes:
  If the answer from the person who would have to approve the code had
  come back "Ok, provide the code and we'll see how well it works in
  practice", I'd do the code. But when it appears the code would never
  make it into the tree to be used, why waste my time?
 'coz we're taking a page from Linus.

Does Linus tell people something is a bad idea, and then use it
anyway? Or does he just not bother to respond to questions about
whether or not something would be a usefull addition?

mike



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Q: encrypted swap

2000-08-22 Thread Walter Belgers

Hi,

Last week I was at USENIX where Niels Provos talked about his
implementation of encrypted swap in OpenBSD. What is does is
encrypting all memory that gets swapped out, keeping the encryption
keys in memory.  A test showed that all kinds of interesting things
wind up in the swap partition; Niels himself found several passwords
and his PGP passphrase on his own laptop..

So, I think having the option to use encrypted swap on FreeBSD
would be nice. Is anybody already working on this? If not, how do
I get somebody to work on it?  ;-)

Cheers,
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RE: Question from a neophyte... Why isn't rc.local being read?

2000-08-22 Thread Johan Kruger

Make sure it's not commented out in rc

# Run rc.devfs if readable to customize devfs
#
if [ -r /etc/rc.devfs ]; then
sh /etc/rc.devfs
fi

# Do traditional (but rather obsolete) rc.local file if it exists.  If you
# use this file and want to make it programmatic, source /etc/defaults/rc.conf
# in /etc/rc.local and add your custom variables to /etc/rc.conf, as
# shown below.  Please do not put local extensions into /etc/rc itself.
# Use /etc/rc.local
#
#  rc.local 
#   if [ -r /etc/defaults/rc.conf ]; then
#   . /etc/defaults/rc.conf
#   source_rc_confs
#   elif [ -r /etc/rc.conf ]; then
#   . /etc/rc.conf
#   fi
#
#   ... additional startup conditionals ...
#  rc.local 
#
if [ -r /etc/rc.local ]; then
echo -n 'starting local daemons:'
sh /etc/rc.local
echo '.'
fi




On 21-Aug-00 Gordon Zeigler wrote:
 I've added startup commands to /etc/rc.local on my 3.4 Stable machine.
 
 /usr/local/etc/webmin/start # Start webmin
 /usr/local/sbin/sshd# Start open ssh
 /etc/init.d/apachectl start # Start apache web server
 
 Yet, these are not starting at reboot...
 
 What am I missing? Probably something obvious, but it escapes me...
 
  
 
 *** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***
 
 On 8/21/00 at 9:53 AM Julian Elischer wrote:
 
since config has changed.. where do I set the flags on my debug port
(sio2?)
the sio man page has no hints..
it looks to me as it if is now controlled differently 
unles I've made a mistake


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RE: error sysinstall

2000-08-22 Thread Johan Kruger

Probably need a newer sysinstall, now uses character devices
Where did you get this sysinstall from, is in on a boot floppy ?
If it is, then either the kernel with it's devices doesn't work
with the sysinstall you use, or the devices do not exist.

On your PC, do a make depend ; make ; make install in
/usr/src/release/sysinstall

then you use the sysinstall in the installed dir /stand/sysinstall
Remember to remake your devices - char devices probably needed.

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Realplayer and Yamaha 740C on current

2000-08-22 Thread Reinier Bezuidenhout

Hi ...

I have a 5.0-current .. kernel compiled of a day or so ago.

When I'm using Realplayer7 or plaympeg (package smpeg) to play
real audio or mpegs I just get this load "hissing" noise.

When I use mpg123 to play a mp3 the sound is OK .. CD sound
works fine and games too.

Any idea why realaudio (even when playing a local file) and
plaympeg seems to corrupt the sound ??

Somehow I recall that this used to work .. but I can't confirm it :)

Thanx
Reinier

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Re: People running with LOCALBASE set to something other than /usr/local?

2000-08-22 Thread Jacques A. Vidrine

On Mon, Aug 21, 2000 at 11:59:26PM -0500, Mike Meyer wrote:
 I'm curious - are there any committers who regularly use a system with
 LOCALBASE set to something other than /usr/local?

I have LOCALBASE=/opt for a couple of years now.

OTOH, I also have a symlink from /usr/local - /opt due to a small
but significant number of ports that are not PREFIX clean.
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Review requested for /dev/random driver improvements!

2000-08-22 Thread Mark Murray

Hi All

Please could those of you with the time and computrons available
please review the patches for the entropy (/dev/random) driver at
http://people.freebsd.org/~markm/randomdev.patch.

NOTES:

This code may injure your cat, your computer and/or your bank account;
be careful!

The code puts the responsibility of reseeding the entropy state
variables into a kernel thread; this should make userland a lot
snappier.

There is a FIFO constructed from TAILQ's to buffer the entropy
harvesting; this should further insulate userland from the internal
workings.

All the crypto and hashing has been broken out into a separate file
to make the whole driver less dependant on particular algorithms.

There is an (unresolved) issue with panics when the module is unloaded;
I'm working on that, but if you get to it before me, your help would be
appreciated.

Not included in here is a direct tap into the random event stream
to allow folks who need to "distill bits" to do their own entropy
processing. This is being worked on.

Other comments, patches and suggestions welcome!

Many thanks to Brian Feldman for the kthreads example, and others
for answering my questions online!

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Realplayer and Yamaha 740C on current - update

2000-08-22 Thread Reinier Bezuidenhout

Dit another test ... 

Used mpg123 with the "-m" option for mono sound (all the thins
that "broke" was in mono) and got the same noise ... seems like
"mono" sound for the 740C Yamaha is broken ??

Reinier


On 22-Aug-00 Reinier Bezuidenhout wrote:
 Hi ...
 
 I have a 5.0-current .. kernel compiled of a day or so ago.
 
 When I'm using Realplayer7 or plaympeg (package smpeg) to play
 real audio or mpegs I just get this load "hissing" noise.
 
 When I use mpg123 to play a mp3 the sound is OK .. CD sound
 works fine and games too.
 
 Any idea why realaudio (even when playing a local file) and
 plaympeg seems to corrupt the sound ??
 
 Somehow I recall that this used to work .. but I can't confirm it :)
 
 Thanx
 Reinier
 
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Re: PATCH: devfs mkIII test review please.

2000-08-22 Thread Mark Murray

 They can also be made by the driver using make_dev_alias().

Cool!

Man page please?

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Re: Q: encrypted swap

2000-08-22 Thread Mark Murray

 So, I think having the option to use encrypted swap on FreeBSD
 would be nice. Is anybody already working on this? If not, how do
 I get somebody to work on it?  ;-)

Ever since the Phoenecians invented money, there has been at least
one guaranteed answer to that :-)

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Re: problems with /usr/bin/awk

2000-08-22 Thread Nik Clayton

Tony,

On Mon, Aug 21, 2000 at 07:17:31PM -0700, Tony Fleisher wrote:
 I have been running cvsup nightly to grab -current and -ports,
 and noticed some strangeness with awk that seemed to start last
 week sometime.
 
 When building /usr/ports/lang/guile, the build exited with an
 awk 'internal error' and a log on the console that awk had
 exited on signal 6. To test my theory that the problem was
 indeed awk (rather than the guile port), I copied over a copy
 of awk from a 4.1-R system. After doing so, the guile port was able to
 build and install without any problems. 

Interesting.  I bumped into the same problem on -current, but also had the
problem if I tried using gawk from the ports (d'oh.  I've just realised,
our awk is GNU awk).

You can get around it by installed nawk from lang/nawk first, and then
doing "make AWK=nawk" you build it.

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Re: Realplayer and Yamaha 740C on current - update

2000-08-22 Thread Roger Hardiman

Reinier

 seems like "mono" sound for the 740C Yamaha is broken ??


I found 'mono' audio was broken on my Yamaha 724F PCI card
at the weekend.

Cameron said several users have reported this and he has
reworked the code in -current to hopefully work around
this problem.

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Re: Realplayer and Yamaha 740C on current - update

2000-08-22 Thread Reinier Bezuidenhout

Roger ..

I cvs-ed the sources for the kernel from yesterday .. but I'll
get the latest ones now .. I'm just not sure if Cameron has
committed the changes yet .. but in any case ... thanx
Cameron !! :)

Rgds
Reinier


On 22-Aug-00 Roger Hardiman wrote:
 Reinier
 
 seems like "mono" sound for the 740C Yamaha is broken ??
 
 
 I found 'mono' audio was broken on my Yamaha 724F PCI card
 at the weekend.
 
 Cameron said several users have reported this and he has
 reworked the code in -current to hopefully work around
 this problem.
 
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Re: Realplayer and Yamaha 740C on current - update

2000-08-22 Thread Roger Hardiman

Reinier Bezuidenhout wrote:
 
 Roger ..
 
 I cvs-ed the sources for the kernel from yesterday .. but I'll
 get the latest ones now .. I'm just not sure if Cameron has
 committed the changes yet .. but in any case ... thanx
 Cameron !! :)

Cameron changed the 'feeder' code which drives the cards.
So, our cards may not work, but he said it is now much
easier to work around the problem with the new feeder
code.

Anyway, we should be able to get this sorted out in the
near future.

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Re: Anyone have newmidi working?

2000-08-22 Thread Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven

-On [2819 18:15], Brian Fundakowski Feldman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Newmidi doesn't seem to work.  The oplsbc device handling had to be
hacked a bit to support non-PnP SBs, but that's inconsequential.
It probes and boots fine.  It seems that newmidi is completely
disconnected from actually being able to work.

Doesn't work here.  I could forward you my mail I sent the to the other,
mayhaps our problems are quite alike.

I haven't gotten any response from the author :-(  Does anyone have it
working?  I don't see how it could with the current state of the code.

Same here.

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Re: Why no CDR ioctls for SCSI cds?

2000-08-22 Thread Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven

-On [2822 08:50], Warner Losh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

Actually, the real reason is that MMC drives that mostly support the
standard, but do it wrong in ways that are hard to detect.  Those are
going to be the worst to try to support.  There are some drives out
there that just hang when you issue them certain MMC commands, as an
example.  They shouldn't but they do and you have to be careful not to 
send them these commands.

This got parsed by me as: mmc-quirk.h

It wouldn't be hard to keep it tracked in a quirk file as per the SCSI
disk quirk file.

But I am not sure it is elegant.

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Re: Why no CDR ioctls for SCSI cds?

2000-08-22 Thread Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven

-On [2822 06:25], Kenneth D. Merry ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
It needs an ATAPI passthrough mechanism to work.  (FreeBSD doesn't have
one at the moment.)

Søren, Matt and me were discussing the ATA/CAM issues so that we might
be able to approach ATA through CAM.

That would clear a lot.

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make buildworld br0ken in libutil

2000-08-22 Thread Ollivier Robert

Brian, I'm afraid you broke libutil... Every program using libutil now must
depend on libcrypt too.

-=-=-
=== libexec/fingerd
cc -O -pipe   -I/usr/obj/src/src/i386/usr/include -c /src/src/libexec/fingerd/fi
ngerd.c
cc -O -pipe   -I/usr/obj/src/src/i386/usr/include  -o fingerd fingerd.o  -lutil
/usr/obj/src/src/i386/usr/lib/libutil.so: undefined reference to `crypt_set_form
at'
*** Error code 1

Stop in /src/src/libexec/fingerd.
*** Error code 1
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Re: make buildworld br0ken in libutil

2000-08-22 Thread Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven

-On [2822 17:30], Ollivier Robert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Brian, I'm afraid you broke libutil... Every program using libutil now must
depend on libcrypt too.

Alternatively the sentiment just rose why we couldn't just collapse the
crypt/hash functions of libcrypt into libc.

It would make sense.

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Re: make buildworld br0ken in libutil

2000-08-22 Thread Ollivier Robert

According to Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven:
 Alternatively the sentiment just rose why we couldn't just collapse the
 crypt/hash functions of libcrypt into libc.
 
 It would make sense.

It would make even make more sense to convince the other BSD to do the same
(haven't checked recently what they do) and do the merge.
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Crash - Build World - Fatal double fault: eip esp ebp

2000-08-22 Thread Bill G.


I have searched the mailing lists, to no avail (hope I
did not miss the answer).

I am getting the following output on make world (FreeBSD
5.0-2820-CURRENT installed, cvsup current source at
11:00AM Eastern Time)..

Fatal double fault:
eip = 0xc030343c
esp = 0xcd025000
ebp = 0xcd025074
panic: double fault

syncing disks... 577 577 577 ...


I have been having some trouble getting this server up and
running with latest code.  It's a Dual 600EB running on a
Supermicro PIIIDM3 motherboard with 2 128MB PC133 DIMMs
(Non-ECC).  I am using the on-board U160 SCSI with two 9GB
U160 drives..

I am running the R1.5 BIOS for the motherboard..

Any ideas on why I am having trouble or possible
suggestions would be much appreciated.

Thank you,

Bill



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Re: make buildworld br0ken in libutil

2000-08-22 Thread Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven

-On [2822 17:55], Ollivier Robert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
According to Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven:
 Alternatively the sentiment just rose why we couldn't just collapse the
 crypt/hash functions of libcrypt into libc.
 
 It would make sense.

It would make even make more sense to convince the other BSD to do the same
(haven't checked recently what they do) and do the merge.

I very much agree.

Would it be sensible for the regular cypherpunks to discuss this with
the NetBSD and OpenBSD brothers?

Otherwise I would be willing to open this discussion on the appropriate
lists.

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Re: Q: encrypted swap

2000-08-22 Thread Robert Watson

On Tue, 22 Aug 2000, Walter Belgers wrote:

 Last week I was at USENIX where Niels Provos talked about his
 implementation of encrypted swap in OpenBSD. What is does is encrypting
 all memory that gets swapped out, keeping the encryption keys in memory. 
 A test showed that all kinds of interesting things wind up in the swap
 partition; Niels himself found several passwords and his PGP passphrase
 on his own laptop.. 
 
 So, I think having the option to use encrypted swap on FreeBSD would be
 nice. Is anybody already working on this? If not, how do I get somebody
 to work on it?  ;-) 

Walter,

There has been discussion and substantial interest in an encrypted swap
interface on the freebsd-security mailing list in the last month or so. 
It was concluded that it was best to wait until Poul-Henning Kemp finished
improved infrastructure, allowing the stacking of devices and layers above
devices.  This would allow an abstracted "encrypted device" interface,
supporting everything from encrypted swap (using a randomized key) to
generic protected file systems (one key per partition protecting the file
system).  This would give substantial protection for those of us with
mobile computing devices (generally notebooks) that have a tendancy to
walk off in airports, for example :-).

As an interim solution, I believe we support swap over NFS, so could swap
to a local CFS partition.  We could also look at solutions that cause swap
partitions to be blanked at shutdown, although that's an inferior solution
to true encrypted swap, as one tends to trust strong crypto a little more
than the ability to delete the contents of magnetic disk platters :-).

So the short of it: infrastructure work is under way that should make
encrypted swap an easy addition in the near future.

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Kernel panic on fxp

2000-08-22 Thread Patrick Gardella

I've been working for a while to try to figure out a problem I'm having
here.

I did a buildworld Sunday, and started to get kernel panics on boot when
it probed fxp.  So I removed fxp from my kernel and loaded it as a
module (via loader.conf.local).  It paniced.  Then I unloaded the
if_fxp.ko on startup, and it booted.  But if I load the fxp module now,
after a full boot, everything is great.  Rebooting with fxp in the
kernel or loading the module on boot will cause a panic *every* time.

Thinking it might be build problem, I redid the build/install/kernel
again on Monday, and am having the same problems.  The panics only
started on the upgrade from a -current dated sometime in early July.

As you will see from below, this is an SMP machine (dual P200) with 256
Megs RAM.
I am also using NETGRAPH to run PPPoE.

Any ideas?

Patrick

The panic is:
Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode
mp_lock=0005; cpuid = 0; lapic.id=
fault virtual address   = 0x0
fault code  = supervisor read, page not present
instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc034e304
stack pointer   = 0x10:0xc038bea8
frame pointer   = 0x10=0xc038bebc
code segment= base 0x0, limit 0xf, type 0x1b
= DPC 0, pres 1, def 32 1, gran 1
processor eflag = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPC=0
current process = 0 (swapper)
interrupt mask  = net tty bio cam - SMP:XXX
trap number = 12
panic: page fault


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Re: make buildworld br0ken in libutil

2000-08-22 Thread Paul Richards

Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven wrote:
 
 -On [2822 17:55], Ollivier Robert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 According to Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven:
  Alternatively the sentiment just rose why we couldn't just collapse the
  crypt/hash functions of libcrypt into libc.
 
  It would make sense.
 
 It would make even make more sense to convince the other BSD to do the same
 (haven't checked recently what they do) and do the merge.
 
 I very much agree.
 
 Would it be sensible for the regular cypherpunks to discuss this with
 the NetBSD and OpenBSD brothers?
 
 Otherwise I would be willing to open this discussion on the appropriate
 lists.

Is there any current policy on what libc is? It certainly isn't "libc"
as required by C and hasn't been for almost ever but there needs to be
some rational to its existence otherwise why not fold everything into
libc and not bother with any other libraries!

A growing libc makes static binaries grow and makes it more difficult to
strip out unneeded functionality from a minimalist system install. I'd
been inclined to try and move things the other way and strip stuff out
of libc into separate libraries but that's obviously not in vogue at the
moment.

Why does crypt need to be in libc? Not even a significant fraction of
applications need crypt?

Paul.


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Re: make buildworld br0ken in libutil

2000-08-22 Thread Sheldon Hearn



On Tue, 22 Aug 2000 17:25:50 +0100, Paul Richards wrote:

 Is there any current policy on what libc is?

For some reason, I seem to remember Bruce Evans once calling it "the
kitchen sink". :-)

Ciao,
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Re: make buildworld br0ken in libutil

2000-08-22 Thread Nate Williams

   Alternatively the sentiment just rose why we couldn't just collapse the
   crypt/hash functions of libcrypt into libc.
  
   It would make sense.
  
  It would make even make more sense to convince the other BSD to do the same
  (haven't checked recently what they do) and do the merge.
  
  I very much agree.
  
  Would it be sensible for the regular cypherpunks to discuss this with
  the NetBSD and OpenBSD brothers?
  
  Otherwise I would be willing to open this discussion on the appropriate
  lists.
 
 Is there any current policy on what libc is? It certainly isn't "libc"
 as required by C and hasn't been for almost ever but there needs to be
 some rational to its existence otherwise why not fold everything into
 libc and not bother with any other libraries!
 
 A growing libc makes static binaries grow

NOT!  Static linking *only* brings in those symbols necessary for the
file.  It doesn't matter where those files are, they are only brought in
if necessary.

 and makes it more difficult to
 strip out unneeded functionality from a minimalist system install.

This is true.

 I'd been inclined to try and move things the other way and strip stuff
 out of libc into separate libraries but that's obviously not in vogue
 at the moment.

For what it's worth, I'm in agreement.  The 'kitchen sink' approach,
although easy tends to make stuff hard to maintain, since you end up
with namespace collisions, and you may end up with something you are not
aware of that conflicts with routines you are using inside your program.

(Think of the recent weak symbol discussion where the library is not
using the correct 'global' symbol for read as an example.)

 Why does crypt need to be in libc? Not even a significant fraction of
 applications need crypt?

Agreed.


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Re: make buildworld br0ken in libutil

2000-08-22 Thread Mark Murray

 -On [2822 17:30], Ollivier Robert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 Brian, I'm afraid you broke libutil... Every program using libutil now must
 depend on libcrypt too.
 
 Alternatively the sentiment just rose why we couldn't just collapse the
 crypt/hash functions of libcrypt into libc.

Agreed!

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Re: make buildworld br0ken in libutil

2000-08-22 Thread Mark Murray

 A growing libc makes static binaries grow and makes it more difficult to
 strip out unneeded functionality from a minimalist system install. I'd
 been inclined to try and move things the other way and strip stuff out
 of libc into separate libraries but that's obviously not in vogue at the
 moment.

Static binaries don't pull in the whole of libc; they just pull in what
they need, be it from libc or libcrypt, so size should not change.

The _shared_ libc will get bigger, but we'll lose the shared libcrypto.

 Why does crypt need to be in libc? Not even a significant fraction of
 applications need crypt?

Goes for very many libc components. Quite a lot of userland needs libcrypt
(not much as a proportion, but a non-insignificant number).

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Re: make buildworld br0ken in libutil

2000-08-22 Thread Garrett Wollman

On Tue, 22 Aug 2000 17:53:09 +0200, Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

 -On [2822 17:30], Ollivier Robert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 Brian, I'm afraid you broke libutil... Every program using libutil now must
 depend on libcrypt too.

No.  This is precisely why shared libraries have dependencies.  For
static linking, what Brian has done Just Works.  For dynamic linking,
libutil needs to depend on libcrypt to get its symbols resolved.
(Alternatively you might be able to do it with weak symbols.)

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Strange messages on -CURRENT

2000-08-22 Thread Alexander N. Kabaev

I am seeing these messages on the -CURRENT box as of

FreeBSD kanpc.gte.com 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #0: Mon Aug 14 10:04:38
EDT 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/compile/KANPC  i386

Aug 22 13:07:40 kanpc /kernel: unexpected vn driver lock: 0xc8010d40: type
VREG, usecount 2, writecount 1, refcount 25, flags (VOBJBUF)
Aug 22 13:07:40 kanpc /kernel: unexpected vn driver lock: 0xc8010d40: type
VREG, usecount 2, writecount 1, refcount 25, flags (VOBJBUF)
Aug 22 13:07:40 kanpc /kernel: tag VT_UFS, ino 349296, on dev #ad/0x30005 (116,
196613) lock type inode: EXCL (count 1) by pid 5
Aug 22 13:07:40 kanpc /kernel: tag VT_UFS, ino 349296, on dev #ad/0x30005 (116,
196613) lock type inode: EXCL (count 1) by pid 5

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Re: Why no CDR ioctls for SCSI cds?

2000-08-22 Thread Brian Fundakowski Feldman

One thing that's missing is the ioctl CDRIOCSETBLOCKSIZE.  It would
be _really_ nice if cd(4) supported that ioctl so I could just seek
and read from a CD.  I had knu trying out my read_cd program, and it
doesn't work for SCSI CD-ROMs, seemingly because of this issue :(

Would you be adverse to implementeing that ioctl?

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Re: Kernel panic on fxp

2000-08-22 Thread Bosko Milekic


PLEASE read this:

http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/hackers.html#AEN4885

Basically, by just looking at the page fault message, this appears to
  be the dereferencing of a NULL pointer. That's all that I'm afraid pretty
  much anybody will be able to conclude from this unless you, at least,
  provide us with a backtrace as well as an assembly dump of whatever
  function the crash occured in.

On Tue, 22 Aug 2000, Patrick Gardella wrote:

 I've been working for a while to try to figure out a problem I'm having
 here.
 
 I did a buildworld Sunday, and started to get kernel panics on boot when
 it probed fxp.  So I removed fxp from my kernel and loaded it as a
 module (via loader.conf.local).  It paniced.  Then I unloaded the
 if_fxp.ko on startup, and it booted.  But if I load the fxp module now,
 after a full boot, everything is great.  Rebooting with fxp in the
 kernel or loading the module on boot will cause a panic *every* time.
 
 Thinking it might be build problem, I redid the build/install/kernel
 again on Monday, and am having the same problems.  The panics only
 started on the upgrade from a -current dated sometime in early July.
 
 As you will see from below, this is an SMP machine (dual P200) with 256
 Megs RAM.
 I am also using NETGRAPH to run PPPoE.
 
 Any ideas?
 
 Patrick
 
 The panic is:
 Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode
 mp_lock=0005; cpuid = 0; lapic.id=
 fault virtual address   = 0x0
 fault code  = supervisor read, page not present
 instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc034e304
 stack pointer   = 0x10:0xc038bea8
 frame pointer   = 0x10=0xc038bebc
 code segment= base 0x0, limit 0xf, type 0x1b
 = DPC 0, pres 1, def 32 1, gran 1
 processor eflag = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPC=0
 current process = 0 (swapper)
 interrupt mask  = net tty bio cam - SMP:XXX
 trap number = 12
 panic: page fault

 Cheers,
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Re: compaq proliant

2000-08-22 Thread David TOUITOU

On 21 Aug 2000, at 21:04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  has anyone gotten freebsd (current or other) running on one of these?
 
 Which Proliant model are you talking about?
 
  i've tried 4.0, 4.1, and -current, and the kernel panics on me with
  the following:
  
  sym0: 895a port 0x1000=0x10ff mem 
  0xb110-0xb1101fff,0xb140-0xb14003ff irq 11 at device 4.0 on pci1
  sym0: failed to allocate RAM resources
 
 We're running 3.4-STABLE on a Proliant 3000 here, and it's working great.
 Mind you, this has a Symbios 875 based controller, not 895a as in your
 case.

Proliant 3000 with 4.1-STABLE here, working great too.


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Re: Why no CDR ioctls for SCSI cds?

2000-08-22 Thread Kenneth D. Merry

On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 15:22:05 -0400, Brian Fundakowski Feldman wrote:
 One thing that's missing is the ioctl CDRIOCSETBLOCKSIZE.  It would
 be _really_ nice if cd(4) supported that ioctl so I could just seek
 and read from a CD.  I had knu trying out my read_cd program, and it
 doesn't work for SCSI CD-ROMs, seemingly because of this issue :(
 
 Would you be adverse to implementeing that ioctl?

That's fine.  As it turns out, I've had additional discussions with Mike
Meyer and Matt Jacob and Mike will probably be implementing MMC CD-R
support.  That ioctl will probably be a part of it.

The functionality you're looking for is part of a larger issue of
supporting CDDA reads in the cd(4) driver.

That's needed to support AudioFS.  (As well as to support doing a straight
read off the CD when an audio CD is in there.)

The main problem is that different drives use different commands to read
audio data.  MMC-compliant drives are one case, but there are a lot more
drives out there that use varying methods to read audio data.

It'll also take some tweaking to get the driver to support blocksizes that
aren't multiples of 512 bytes.

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Re: make buildworld br0ken in libutil

2000-08-22 Thread Brian Fundakowski Feldman

On Tue, 22 Aug 2000, Garrett Wollman wrote:

 On Tue, 22 Aug 2000 17:53:09 +0200, Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 
  -On [2822 17:30], Ollivier Robert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  Brian, I'm afraid you broke libutil... Every program using libutil now must
  depend on libcrypt too.
 
 No.  This is precisely why shared libraries have dependencies.  For
 static linking, what Brian has done Just Works.  For dynamic linking,
 libutil needs to depend on libcrypt to get its symbols resolved.
 (Alternatively you might be able to do it with weak symbols.)

Further, I cannot see how the make world _could_ be broken!  This is
strange, since I've never had the problem at all and have tested this
change in several places (5.0 and 4.1).

{"/home/green"}$ objdump --all-headers /usr/lib/libutil.so | grep NEEDED
/usr/libexec/elf/objdump: /usr/lib/libutil.so: no symbols
  NEEDED  libcrypt.so.2

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Re: compaq proliant

2000-08-22 Thread Joel Jacobson

   sym0: 895a port 0x1000=0x10ff mem   
0xb110-0xb1101fff,0xb140-0xb14003ff irq 11 at   device 4.0 on 
pci1 sym0: failed to allocate RAM resources
   We're running 3.4-STABLE on a Proliant 3000 here, and it's  working 
great.
  Mind you, this has a Symbios 875 based controller, not 895a  as in your 
case.

Proliant 3000 with 4.1-STABLE here, working great too.

it's a ML330.  recompiling the kernel without sym support seems to make
it boot (i wasnt using the scsi controller anyway).

which is an interesting data point, actually:  there were no scsi
devices plugged into the controller.

in any event, im up and running.  this may now serve as a data point for
whomever is maintaining the sym driver...

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Re: Review requested for /dev/random driver improvements!

2000-08-22 Thread Donn Miller

Mark Murray wrote:
 
 Hi All
 
 Please could those of you with the time and computrons available
 please review the patches for the entropy (/dev/random) driver at
 http://people.freebsd.org/~markm/randomdev.patch.

I'm getting some errors trying to build this.  Attached is my make.log
that shows the errors.

-Donn

linking kernel
yarrow.o: In function `random_kthread':
yarrow.o(.text+0x36): undefined reference to `yarrow_hash_init'
yarrow.o(.text+0xe3): undefined reference to `yarrow_hash_iterate'
yarrow.o(.text+0x103): undefined reference to `yarrow_hash_iterate'
yarrow.o: In function `reseed':
yarrow.o(.text+0x317): undefined reference to `yarrow_hash_init'
yarrow.o(.text+0x334): undefined reference to `yarrow_hash_iterate'
yarrow.o(.text+0x34b): undefined reference to `yarrow_hash_iterate'
yarrow.o(.text+0x37a): undefined reference to `yarrow_hash_init'
yarrow.o(.text+0x392): undefined reference to `yarrow_hash_iterate'
yarrow.o(.text+0x3a3): undefined reference to `yarrow_hash_iterate'
yarrow.o(.text+0x3b6): undefined reference to `yarrow_hash_iterate'
yarrow.o(.text+0x3c6): undefined reference to `yarrow_hash_finish'
yarrow.o(.text+0x3f5): undefined reference to `yarrow_hash_init'
yarrow.o(.text+0x406): undefined reference to `yarrow_hash_iterate'
yarrow.o(.text+0x42c): undefined reference to `yarrow_hash_iterate'
yarrow.o(.text+0x449): undefined reference to `yarrow_hash_finish'
yarrow.o(.text+0x457): undefined reference to `yarrow_encrypt_init'
yarrow.o(.text+0x481): undefined reference to `yarrow_encrypt'
yarrow.o: In function `read_random':
yarrow.o(.text+0x5d0): undefined reference to `yarrow_encrypt'
yarrow.o(.text+0x645): undefined reference to `yarrow_encrypt'
yarrow.o: In function `generator_gate':
yarrow.o(.text+0x78b): undefined reference to `yarrow_encrypt'
yarrow.o(.text+0x7a6): undefined reference to `yarrow_encrypt_init'
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/sys/compile/CUSTOM.



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Re: Why no CDR ioctls for SCSI cds?

2000-08-22 Thread Laurence Berland

On a vaguely related topic, after much searching I can't seem to see one
way or the other if we can do a complete bit-by-bit copy of a cd with
either cdrecord or burncd, though it's possible I'm looking in the wrong
place.

Laurence

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error with fetchmail + sendmail

2000-08-22 Thread undergra

Helo, yesterday i actualiced from FreeBSD 4.1 to FreeBSD 5.0 current. and i
am having some problems whith sendmail and fetchmail.
the sendmail version is 8.11.0.
the problem began whit this file aliases.db because as the sendmail logs
said, it wasnt able to see this file at /etc/mail. so i made a new one whit
"makehash".

but now i have got another problem. when i run fetchmail to get my e-mail it
freezes.
it happens in the following way:

(fetchmail -v) -latest version-

fetchmail: 5.4.4 interrogando machine.com (protocolo auto) en Wed, 23 Aug
2000 01:38:54 +0200 (CEST)
fetchmail: 5.4.4 interrogando machine.com (protocolo IMAP) en Wed, 23 Aug
2000 01:38:54 +0200 (CEST)
fetchmail: 5.4.4 interrogando machine.com (protocolo POP3) en Wed, 23 Aug
2000 01:38:55 +0200 (CEST)
fetchmail: POP3 +OK QPOP (version ?) at machine.com starting.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
fetchmail: POP3 USER myuser
fetchmail: POP3 +OK Password required for myuser.
fetchmail: POP3 PASS *
fetchmail: POP3 +OK myuser has 1 visible message (0 hidden) in 2267 octets.
fetchmail: POP3 STAT
fetchmail: POP3 +OK 1 2267
fetchmail: POP3 LAST
fetchmail: POP3 +OK 0 is the last read message.
1 mensaje para koji en machine.com (2267 octetos).
fetchmail: POP3 LIST
fetchmail: POP3 +OK 1 visible messages (2267 octets)
fetchmail: POP3 1 2267
fetchmail: POP3 .
fetchmail: POP3 TOP 1 
fetchmail: POP3 +OK Message follows
leyendo mensaje 1 de 1 (2267 octetos)
fetchmail: SMTP 220 daemon.org ESMTP Sendmail 8.11.0/8.11.0; Wed, 23 Aug
2000 01:39:00 +0200 (CEST)
fetchmail: SMTP EHLO localhost
fetchmail: SMTP 250-daemon.org Hello localhost [127.0.0.1], pleased to meet
you
fetchmail: SMTP 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
fetchmail: SMTP 250-EXPN
fetchmail: SMTP 250-VERB
fetchmail: SMTP 250-8BITMIME
fetchmail: SMTP 250-SIZE
fetchmail: SMTP 250-DSN
fetchmail: SMTP 250-ONEX
fetchmail: SMTP 250-ETRN
fetchmail: SMTP 250-XUSR
fetchmail: SMTP 250 HELP
fetchmail: SMTP MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SIZE=2267
fetchmail: SMTP 250 2.1.0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Sender ok
fetchmail: SMTP RCPT TO:user@localhost

and then freezes.

the error that i get fron sendmail when the "fetchmail" is running is as it
follows:

Aug 23 01:35:28 daemon sendmail[3980]: e7MNPQG03980: lost input channel
from localhost [127.0.0.1] to MTA after rcpt

is there somebody who would help me whist this fail?

thanks



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Re: Why no CDR ioctls for SCSI cds?

2000-08-22 Thread Kenneth D. Merry

On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 20:43:15 -0400, Laurence Berland wrote:
 On a vaguely related topic, after much searching I can't seem to see one
 way or the other if we can do a complete bit-by-bit copy of a cd with
 either cdrecord or burncd, though it's possible I'm looking in the wrong
 place.

I think cdrecord can burn CDs in disk-at-once mode, and I think cdrdao (in
ports/audio) can do it as well.

As far as getting an image, you can use dd to dump off an image of a CD if
it is a standard ISO9660 CD.  (I've used that method to clone CDs before.)

If it uses a blocksize other than 2048 bytes, though, you can't use dd with
the SCSI cd driver.

There may be CD rippers that can pull the data off into an image, though.
I don't know for sure.

Ken
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buildworld dies undefined reference to crypt_des

2000-08-22 Thread Peter Jeremy


The `building everything' stage of make buildworld is dying as below.
The following patch fix lets my buildworld get beyond that point (but
it's still running so I don't know if there are problems elsewhere).
(I don't think the patch is the right fix, but it solved my immediate
problem).

Index: Makefile
===
RCS file: /home/CVSROOT/src/bin/csh/Makefile,v
retrieving revision 1.20
diff -u -r1.20 Makefile
--- Makefile2000/07/07 08:27:59 1.20
+++ Makefile2000/08/23 01:49:45
@@ -36,8 +36,8 @@
 # utilities of the same name are handled with the associated manpage,
 # builtin.1 in share/man/man1/.
 
-DPADD= ${LIBTERMCAP} ${LIBCRYPT}
-LDADD= -ltermcap -lcrypt
+DPADD= ${LIBTERMCAP} ${LIBCRYPT} ${LIBDESCRYPT}
+LDADD= -ltermcap -lcrypt -ldescrypt
 
 LINKS= ${BINDIR}/csh ${BINDIR}/tcsh
 


cc -O -pipe -I/3.0/cvs/src/bin/csh/../../contrib/tcsh -I/3.0/cvs/src/bin/csh -I. 
-D_PATH_TCSHELL='"/usr/obj/3.0/cvs/src/i386/bin/csh"' -Wall -Wformat   
-I/usr/obj/3.0/cvs/src/i386/usr/include -c 
/3.0/cvs/src/bin/csh/../../contrib/tcsh/tc.who.c
cc -O -pipe -I/3.0/cvs/src/bin/csh/../../contrib/tcsh -I/3.0/cvs/src/bin/csh -I. 
-D_PATH_TCSHELL='"/usr/obj/3.0/cvs/src/i386/bin/csh"' -Wall -Wformat   
-I/usr/obj/3.0/cvs/src/i386/usr/include -c /3.0/cvs/src/bin/csh/tc.defs.c
cc -O -pipe -I/3.0/cvs/src/bin/csh/../../contrib/tcsh -I/3.0/cvs/src/bin/csh -I. 
-D_PATH_TCSHELL='"/usr/obj/3.0/cvs/src/i386/bin/csh"' -Wall -Wformat   
-I/usr/obj/3.0/cvs/src/i386/usr/include  -static -o csh sh.o sh.dir.o sh.dol.o 
sh.err.o sh.exec.o sh.char.o sh.exp.o sh.file.o sh.func.o sh.glob.o sh.hist.o 
sh.init.o sh.lex.o sh.misc.o sh.parse.o sh.print.o sh.proc.o sh.sem.o sh.set.o 
sh.time.o glob.o mi.termios.o tw.help.o tw.init.o tw.parse.o tw.spell.o tw.comp.o 
tw.color.o ed.chared.o ed.defns.o ed.init.o ed.inputl.o ed.refresh.o ed.screen.o 
ed.xmap.o ed.term.o tc.alloc.o tc.bind.o tc.const.o tc.disc.o tc.func.o tc.os.o 
tc.printf.o tc.prompt.o tc.sched.o tc.sig.o tc.str.o tc.vers.o tc.who.o tc.defs.o  
-ltermcap -lcrypt
/usr/obj/3.0/cvs/src/i386/usr/lib/libcrypt.a(crypt.o)(.rodata+0x4): undefined 
reference to `crypt_des'
*** Error code 1

Stop in /3.0/cvs/src/bin/csh.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /3.0/cvs/src/bin.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /3.0/cvs/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /3.0/cvs/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /3.0/cvs/src.


Peter


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Re: Q: encrypted swap

2000-08-22 Thread Mike Meyer

Mark Murray writes:
  So, I think having the option to use encrypted swap on FreeBSD
  would be nice. Is anybody already working on this? If not, how do
  I get somebody to work on it?  ;-)
 Ever since the Phoenecians invented money, there has been at least
 one guaranteed answer to that :-)

Actually, two. You can *always* work on something yourself!

mike


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Re: Why no CDR ioctls for SCSI cds?

2000-08-22 Thread Mike Meyer

Brian Fundakowski Feldman writes:
 One thing that's missing is the ioctl CDRIOCSETBLOCKSIZE.  It would
 be _really_ nice if cd(4) supported that ioctl so I could just seek
 and read from a CD.  I had knu trying out my read_cd program, and it
 doesn't work for SCSI CD-ROMs, seemingly because of this issue :(

Yup - none of the CDR ioctls (and that's one) are supported by cd.

 Would you be adverse to implementeing that ioctl?

I'm planning on implementing all the CDR ioctls for SCSI cds.

BTW, are those documented somewhere? I mean, I can work out what they
should do, but they still ought to be on a man page. Soren?

Mike



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Re: Review requested for /dev/random driver improvements!

2000-08-22 Thread Mark Murray

 I'm getting some errors trying to build this.  Attached is my make.log
 that shows the errors.

The one that's there now should fix this (I forgot to include a 1-line
patch to sys/conf/files).

Thanks!

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Re: People running with LOCALBASE set to something other than /usr/local?

2000-08-22 Thread Mike Meyer

Jacques A. Vidrine writes:
 On Mon, Aug 21, 2000 at 11:59:26PM -0500, Mike Meyer wrote:
  I'm curious - are there any committers who regularly use a system with
  LOCALBASE set to something other than /usr/local?
 
 I have LOCALBASE=/opt for a couple of years now.
 
 OTOH, I also have a symlink from /usr/local - /opt due to a small
 but significant number of ports that are not PREFIX clean.

Um - why? If you removed the setting of LOCALBASE in that case, you
wouldn't change the disk layout at all.

However, I was wondering if there was anyone who could fix things that
weren't PREFIX clean who would also find them on a regular
basis. That's not you.

Thanx,
mike



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