RE: new rc.network6 and rc.firewall6

Maybe we could have a script to do the dependency check and "compile" everything in a single big file? This script could run at boot and also after mergemaster, whatever: it just check the modification time against a cache file, where it also stores dependencies. Just my Euro 0.02 ;-) Bye,

Re: strange problem of PPPoE + NAT

thx. that fix my problem ;) the other problem i had after switch that system to -current is that after a random time, the connection will frzzed. the routing table still exist, connection is still up. just cant connect to anywhere outside the network. no error or anything been loged in ppp.log.

Re: make release breakage - dokern.sh patch 2

On Tue, 24 Oct 2000, Jordan Hubbard wrote: Believe me, if we were to put out a serious call to kill NFS from the installation boot images, you'd very quickly hear from all of those people and they would be screaming. We need to exhaust all other possibilities before we even contemplate that

Re: current hangs when boot

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bigbear writes: : i update my system from 4.1 to current, when system boot, it hangs when: : start elf ldconfig: /usr/lib /usr/lib/compat /usr/X11R6/lib : why? This is not a hang, otherwise you would not have been able to boot by pressing ^C or ^T The files ,

Re: entropy reseeding is totally broken

I see the opposite. I see that without writing to the /dev/random device I get a cons is an object that cares fortune 99+% of the time on my first login. With it, I see more decently random fortunes (but I haven't done a statistical analysis of them to see how random things are). Is it

Re: make release breakage - dokern.sh patch 2

At Wed, 25 Oct 2000 04:48:14 +0900, Motomichi Matsuzaki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I vote for 'remove NFS away'. How about mergeing ifconfig kldload function into sysinstall, and move /boot/kernel/if_xxx.ko into mfsroot.gz mfs image. hosokawa -- Tatsumi Hosokawa [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: make release breakage - dokern.sh patch 2

At Wed, 25 Oct 2000 19:37:42 +0900, Tatsumi Hosokawa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about mergeing ifconfig kldload function into sysinstall, and move /boot/kernel/if_xxx.ko into mfsroot.gz mfs image. or simply add, main() { + for ( i in /kernel/*.ko ) { + kdload(i); +

Re: make release breakage - dokern.sh patch 2

Again. There is no public NFS servers for distributing FreeBSD as I know. You can't get any FreeBSD, even if you sends NFS packets to the Internet. Can I and anybody access your favorite NFS servers? MIT, gatekeeper.dec.com, and Sunsite all run anonymous NFS mountable archives. Also, be

Re: new rc.network6 and rc.firewall6

This was my thought also. I put the TCP/IP scripts at 99 to make sure that any slow network initialization is done. Since they all start with S - for example S99tcp - moving it to s99tcp will keep it from starting, and the Knnname in the same directory is used to stop things when moving

Re: entropy reseeding is totally broken

On Wed, Oct 25, 2000 at 10:35:55AM +, Terry Lambert wrote: I see the opposite. I see that without writing to the /dev/random device I get a cons is an object that cares fortune 99+% of the time on my first login. With it, I see more decently random fortunes (but I haven't done a

Re: sysinstall's console keymap menu

OK, if I understood correctly, is this patch reasonable at this time? Yes, this looks much better! - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: make release breakage on today's -current

obrien I just diked out more bits. Lets see if that will give us obrien enough space on tonights snapshot build. Whole release procedures are works fine. Thank you. Here's summary of current size of floppies (i386 architecture): * boot.flp (639k left) Filesystem 1K-blocks UsedAvail

Re: make release breakage - dokern.sh patch 2

At Wed, 25 Oct 2000 21:23:01 +0900, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: "David O'Brien" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 13:15:26 -0700 Before removing NFS, I'd remove the new `ncv', `nsp', and `stg' drivers. Please do not remove them. Many people are waiting for them to switch

LINT broken...

Somebody killed "swihand_t" without cleaning up three drivers: otte# ./gsys swihand_t ./i386/isa/cy.c:static swihand_t siopoll; ./i386/isa/rc.c:static swihand_t rcpoll; ./pc98/pc98/sio.c:staticswihand_t siopoll; otte# cd /sys/i386/conf otte# make LINT `LINT' is up to date. otte#

Re: smp instability

John Baldwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: } } On 25-Oct-00 Chuck Robey wrote: } I'm having rather extreme problems with stability on my dual PIII } setup. I know this is to be expected, but it's gotten so extreme on my } system, I can't spend more than a few minutes before it locks up. } }

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Re: divert as module?

On Sun, Oct 22, 2000 at 09:52:03PM +0200, Leif Neland wrote: I want to install ipfw and natd to a machine working as isdn-router, which I lost the kernel config for I connect to the world via userland-ppp and isdnd. I don't have any ipfw or divert compiled in the kernel, but I can load

Re: entropy reseeding is totally broken

1) Reseed code is broken, in come case (as I describe) all reseeding data is ignored, only its size is counted until it was as big as 16384. Mark not fix it yet at this moment nor confirm he is able to reproduce this bug. I'm trying to reproduce this formally. I'm looking for reasons, not

re: -current hangs during boot (UPDATING entry)

It does look like an updating entry is needed for this badly. I did the following things, some of which may not be needed, and now my -current boxes boot OK. 1. update MAKEDEV from /usr/src/etc, run MAKEDEV all 2. update /etc/rc /etc/rc.* /etc/defaults/rc.conf from /usr/src/etc 3. add

Re: entropy reseeding is totally broken

On Wed, Oct 25, 2000 at 10:37:31AM -0700, Mark Murray wrote: Unless _time_ will be used, /dev/random is plain unusable for production usage. Andrey, read the code; nanotime is all over the harvested entropy. I saw it in the code, but it not means it working. If the time is really taken,

USW2 Root: -current build report for Wed Oct 25 02:11:14 CDT 2000

:14 CDT 2000 Doing nightly build attempt for 5.0-20001025-CURRENT at Wed Oct 25 02:11:14 CDT 2000 Updating source tree... Making release... Release build of 5.0-20001025-CURRENT was a success at Wed Oct 25 09:12:54 CDT 2000 --- End of Forwarded Message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL

Re: make release breakage - dokern.sh patch 2

Other candidates I've been pointed to include the removal of /boot/boot[12] and NFS IMO NFS needs to stay. It is *very* useful to many (including me). I vote for 'remove NFS away'. Yes, there are many people using NFS install, but it is site-specific. There are no services

Re: new rc.network6 and rc.firewall6

On Wed, Oct 25, 2000 at 06:04 +0700, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: On Tue, 24 Oct 2000, David O'Brien wrote: On Tue, Oct 24, 2000 at 04:23:40PM +0700, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: Why can't I simply write kill -1 `cat /var/run/sendmail.pid`? What about deamons that don't understand `kill

Re: new rc.network6 and rc.firewall6

On Tue, Oct 24, 2000 at 14:56 -0700, Jordan Hubbard wrote: [ ... NetBSD (or Linux?) like rc scripts ... ] So, who wants to do a proof-of-concept implementation for -current which integrates with our existing rc.conf mechanism? In order to obey POLA, we should at least have the separate

Re: new rc.network6 and rc.firewall6

Gerhard Sittig writes: On Wed, Oct 25, 2000 at 06:04 +0700, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: Though I see your point, actually, many UNIX books, including some pretty old ones, refer to sending HUP signal as standard way of restarting/resetting daemons. Please tell the software authors about it,

Re: new rc.network6 and rc.firewall6

On Tue, Oct 24, 2000 at 02:56:07PM -0700, Jordan Hubbard wrote: So, who wants to do a proof-of-concept implementation for -current which integrates with our existing rc.conf mechanism? I was going to if no one else did. Who ever does it should coordinate with Luke M @ NetBSD. He is willing

Re: new rc.network6 and rc.firewall6

On Wed, Oct 25, 2000 at 08:14:01PM +0200, Gerhard Sittig wrote: but I don't see FreeBSD having this level of "rc lib" as NetBSD has in rc.subr We would import the NetBSD rc.subr. -- -- David ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) GNU is Not Unix / Linux Is Not UniX To Unsubscribe: send mail to

Re: new rc.network6 and rc.firewall6

On Tue, Oct 24, 2000 at 02:58:08PM -0700, Jordan Hubbard wrote: With the NetBSD stuff, this is not immediately obvious though I guess one could have a top level rc file with an explicit ordering similar to our various subdir Makefiles, Nope. All the /etc/rc.d/ files are scanned by `rcorder'.

Re: new rc.network6 and rc.firewall6

Grrr !@#$^ Reply-To:... On Wed, 25 Oct 2000 13:01:04 -0700, "David O'Brien" [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Nope. All the /etc/rc.d/ files are scanned by `rcorder'. `rcorder' then creates a dependacy graph from information in each /etc/rc.d/ file. A walk of the graph is done to output the

Re: new rc.network6 and rc.firewall6

On Wed, Oct 25, 2000 at 09:42:23AM +0200, Andrea Campi wrote: Maybe we could have a script to do the dependency check and "compile" everything in a single big file? Luke already has this support in NetBSD 1.5 for those who demand it, but its a secret. ;-) -- -- David ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

Re: new rc.network6 and rc.firewall6

On Wed, Oct 25, 2000 at 04:04:13PM -0400, Garrett Wollman wrote: Hmmm. We already have a program (called `tsort') which does this (i.e., a topological sort). Does `rcorder' call `tsort' or does it reinvent the wheel? UTSL lynx ftp://ftp.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD-current/src/sbin/rcorder/ To

Re: new rc.network6 and rc.firewall6

Gerhard Sittig writes: What's new is: - include the general config at the start (and yes, in every single script -- but this should be neglectable in terms of speed penalty and makes them work separately, too -- which is a real big gain!) This isn't really new; it's been nagging me

Re: new rc.network6 and rc.firewall6

Grrr !@#%$^ Reply-To: header On Wed, 25 Oct 2000 13:13:53 -0700, "David O'Brien" [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: (i.e., a topological sort). Does `rcorder' call `tsort' or does it reinvent the wheel? UTSL You could have simply answered the question. For the benefit of everyone else: yes,

Re: entropy reseeding is totally broken

I'm not knocking anyone or any code, especially considering this IS -current... BUT... I don't need to read the code to know that I am seeing the same fortunes on first login after reboot more often than I can attribute to random chance. Maybe nanotime is being harvested, but it seems that there

Re: new rc.network6 and rc.firewall6

I was going to if no one else did. Who ever does it should coordinate with Luke M @ NetBSD. He is willing to make tweaks such that we could use as much of the NetBSD bits as possible. He really hopes we [BSD] can standardize on this interface. Well, it sounds like David is already

Re: entropy reseeding is totally broken

I'm not knocking anyone or any code, especially considering this IS -current... BUT... I don't need to read the code to know that I am seeing the same fortunes on first login after reboot more often than I can attribute to random chance. Maybe nanotime is being harvested, but it seems that

Re: divert as module?

Stop right here. If you didn't compile IPDIVERT in the kernel, the hooks aren't in the tcp/ip stack and you're screwed. Figuring out a way to fix this is on my TODO list, though I don't have any ideas that don't cost a performance hit for non-DIVERT users. The LEASE stuff has a similar

Re: new rc.network6 and rc.firewall6

(i.e., a topological sort). Does `rcorder' call `tsort' or does it reinvent the wheel? UTSL You could have simply answered the question. For the benefit of everyone else: yes, it reinvents the wheel. I personally don't have a problem with this; tsort should be a library routine

Re: sysinstall's console keymap menu

Jordan Hubbard wrote: OK, if I understood correctly, is this patch reasonable at this time? Yes, this looks much better! Jordan, what do you think about making the keymap selection the first step of the "Standard" installation? Cheers, -- JMA ** Jose M. Alcaide // [EMAIL

Watching DVD on FreeBSD

I am sorry this is a little off the topic: 1) Has anyone been able to get css-auth patch to work on current/stable? (And was able to watch DVD movies with sound and color at 720x480) 2) Can we use some of the LiViD tools? 3) If someone got it to work before, could you give some points on how

Re: new rc.network6 and rc.firewall6

On Wed, Oct 25, 2000 at 06:04:43AM +0700, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: On Tue, 24 Oct 2000, David O'Brien wrote: On Tue, Oct 24, 2000 at 04:23:40PM +0700, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: Why can't I simply write kill -1 `cat /var/run/sendmail.pid`? What about deamons that don't understand `kill

Re: Watching DVD on FreeBSD

On Wed, Oct 25, 2000 at 10:51:33AM -0700, dmitry wrote: I am sorry this is a little off the topic: 1) Has anyone been able to get css-auth patch to work on current/stable? (And was able to watch DVD movies with sound and color at 720x480) Yes, I have. I can't get the audio to work, but

src/release/Makefile patch so cdrom will autoboot

Don't want to step on toes.. Someone please commit. I believe we need to 'load /kernel' no matter what... it's the 'read' that's in question. Allows a cdrom to autoboot. patch also located at ~jwd/src/src/release/Makefile.patch so you don't have to cut'n'paste. -John Index: Makefile

Re: entropy reseeding is totally broken

Also, what rev of /etc/rc do you have installed? -john - Mark Murray's Original Message - I'm not knocking anyone or any code, especially considering this IS -current... BUT... I don't need to read the code to know that I am seeing the same fortunes on first login after reboot

Re: -current hangs during boot (UPDATING entry)

Thanks for the updates. A few questions below. -John - Mark Hittinger's Original Message - It does look like an updating entry is needed for this badly. I did the following things, some of which may not be needed, and now my -current boxes boot OK. 1. update MAKEDEV from

Re: entropy reseeding is totally broken

Ok, I rebooted once and the entropy caching did not work. Changed entropy_file to point to /var/db/entropy, rebooted. Did not work. Commented out the entropy_file setting and rebooted... And it worked. Rebooted 5 times, worked every time. Laptop is working now. cvsup'd my desktop, ran mergemaster

Re: strange problem of PPPoE + NAT

the other problem i had after switch that system to -current is that after a random time, the connection will frzzed. the routing table still exist, connection is still up. just cant connect to anywhere outside the network. no error or anything been loged in ppp.log. Interestingly enough,

Re: entropy reseeding is totally broken

Ok, I rebooted once and the entropy caching did not work. Changed entropy_file to point to /var/db/entropy, rebooted. Did not work. Commented out the entropy_file setting and rebooted... And it worked. Rebooted 5 times, worked every time. Laptop is working now. cvsup'd my desktop, ran

ftp vs. nfs install times

Hi, I've tested last nights make release built install via both ftp and nfs and am seeing some rather strange results timeing wise: A full install (ie: select ALL) w/ ports. NFS: about 18 minutes. (ave. about 1000KB/sec) FTP: about 70 minutes. (ave. about 45KB/sec) on the

Re: src/release/Makefile patch so cdrom will autoboot

Don't want to step on toes.. Someone please commit. I believe we need to 'load /kernel' no matter what... it's the 'read' that's in question. Allows a cdrom to autoboot. Actually, the kernel should be autoloaded anyway, but you appear to be right here. patch also located at

Re: strange problem of PPPoE + NAT

On Wed, 25 Oct 2000, Josh Tiefenbach wrote: Interestingly enough, I've been having the same problem with PPPoE ever since it hit the tree 'bout a year ago. It happens infrequently enough that I tend to blame my provider, rather than ppp. When it happens, killing ppp and restarting it is

Re: strange problem of PPPoE + NAT

When it happens, killing ppp and restarting it is usually enough. I have no idea what causes it. kill ppp and restart it doesnt help at all. will it make any different if i change a network card? I dont think so. There are times when I cant do a simple kill/restart, and I have to

Re: entropy reseeding is totally broken

Wesley Morgan wrote: I'm not knocking anyone or any code, especially considering this IS -current... BUT... I don't need to read the code to know that I am seeing the same fortunes on first login after reboot more often than I can attribute to random chance. Maybe nanotime is being

Re: Intel Etherexpress support?

On Tue, 24 Oct 2000, Glendon Gross wrote: Is it possible to use the old Intel EtherExpress-16 cards with FreeBSD? The driver was broken a while back and I'm right in the middle of trying to fix it. I've actually given up on the FreeBSD driver and ported the NetBSD driver with mixed success.

Re: ftp vs. nfs install times

Hi, I've tested last nights make release built install via both ftp and nfs and am seeing some rather strange results timeing wise: A full install (ie: select ALL) w/ ports. NFS: about 18 minutes. (ave. about 1000KB/sec) FTP: about 70 minutes. (ave. about 45KB/sec)

call for testers: nsswitch + dynamic linking

[Please follow-up to only one list] Hello, I need more testers for the following! nsswitch extends the C library so that arbitrary sources may be consulted by database routines such as getpwent, gethostbyname, and so on. This implementation was based on NetBSD's implementation. I have