Re: HOWTO articles for migrating from Linux to FreeBSD, especially for pkg?

2014-07-20 Thread Kevin Bowling
On 7/18/2014 1:18 PM, Alfred Perlstein wrote: On 7/18/14, 6:28 AM, Allan Jude wrote: On 2014-07-17 16:12, Adrian Chadd wrote: On 17 July 2014 13:03, Alberto Mijares amijar...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Adrian Chadd adr...@freebsd.org wrote: Hi! 3) The binary packages

Re: Future of pf / firewall in FreeBSD ? - does it have one ?

2014-07-20 Thread krad
all of that is true, but you are missing the point. Having two versions of pf on the bsd's at the user level, is a bad thing. It confuses people, which puts them off. Its a classic case of divide an conquer for other platforms. I really like the idea of the openpf version, that has been mentioned

Re: Future of pf / firewall in FreeBSD ? - does it have one ?

2014-07-20 Thread Lars Engels
On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 12:18:54PM +0100, krad wrote: all of that is true, but you are missing the point. Having two versions of pf on the bsd's at the user level, is a bad thing. It confuses people, which puts them off. Its a classic case of divide an conquer for other platforms. I really

[ZFS][PANIC] Solaris Assert/zio.c:2548

2014-07-20 Thread Larry Rosenman
Got the following panic overnight (I think while a nightly rsync was running): Dump header from device /dev/gpt/swap0 Architecture: amd64 Architecture Version: 2 Dump Length: 8122101760B (7745 MB) Blocksize: 512 Dumptime: Sun Jul 20 03:22:18 2014 Hostname: borg.lerctr.org Magic:

Re: Future of pf / firewall in FreeBSD ? - does it have one ?

2014-07-20 Thread Maxim Khitrov
On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 8:39 AM, Lars Engels lars.eng...@0x20.net wrote: On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 12:18:54PM +0100, krad wrote: all of that is true, but you are missing the point. Having two versions of pf on the bsd's at the user level, is a bad thing. It confuses people, which puts them off.

Re: Future of pf / firewall in FreeBSD ? - does it have one ?

2014-07-20 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 10:15:36AM -0400, Maxim Khitrov wrote: On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 8:39 AM, Lars Engels lars.eng...@0x20.net wrote: On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 12:18:54PM +0100, krad wrote: all of that is true, but you are missing the point. Having two versions of pf on the bsd's at the

Re: Future of pf / firewall in FreeBSD ? - does it have one ?

2014-07-20 Thread Mike.
On 7/19/2014 at 9:36 PM Darren Pilgrim wrote: |On 7/18/2014 6:51 AM, Franco Fichtner wrote: | [snip] | | |All because over half a decade ago some folks got all butthurt over a |config file format change. = I'm juggling two formats for specifying NIC configurations in rc.conf, one

Re: Future of pf / firewall in FreeBSD ? - does it have one ?

2014-07-20 Thread Franco Fichtner
On 20 Jul 2014, at 15:39, Mike. the.li...@mgm51.com wrote: imho, the root problem here is that an effort to implement a single feature improvement (multi-threading) has caused the FreeBSD version of pf to apparently reach a near-unmaintainable position in the FreeBSD community because

Re: [ZFS][PANIC] Solaris Assert/zio.c:2548

2014-07-20 Thread Florian Smeets
On 20/07/14 16:03, Larry Rosenman wrote: Panic String: solaris assert: !(zio-io_flags ZIO_FLAG_DELEGATED), file: /usr/src/sys/cddl/contrib/opensolaris/uts/common/fs/zfs/zio.c, line: 2874 Unread portion of the kernel message buffer: panic: solaris assert: !(zio-io_flags

Re: Future of pf / firewall in FreeBSD ? - does it have one ?

2014-07-20 Thread Mike.
On 7/20/2014 at 5:38 PM Franco Fichtner wrote: |On 20 Jul 2014, at 15:39, Mike. the.li...@mgm51.com wrote: | | imho, the root problem here is that an effort to implement a single | feature improvement (multi-threading) has caused the FreeBSD version | of pf to apparently reach a

Re: Future of pf / firewall in FreeBSD ? - does it have one ?

2014-07-20 Thread Alexander Kabaev
On Sun, 20 Jul 2014 10:15:36 -0400 Maxim Khitrov m...@mxcrypt.com wrote: On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 8:39 AM, Lars Engels lars.eng...@0x20.net wrote: On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 12:18:54PM +0100, krad wrote: all of that is true, but you are missing the point. Having two versions of pf on the

Re: Future of pf / firewall in FreeBSD ? - does it have one ?

2014-07-20 Thread Eric Masson
krad kra...@gmail.com writes: Hi, I really like the idea of the openpf version, that has been mentioned in this thread. It would be nice but as it's been written in this thread, Open Free internals are quite different beasts, goals are different on both platforms, so I doubt OpenPF will

Re: [ZFS][PANIC] Solaris Assert/zio.c:2548

2014-07-20 Thread Steven Hartland
Can you provide the details of the zio which caused the panic? Also does any of your pools support trim? Regards Steve - Original Message - From: Larry Rosenman l...@lerctr.org To: freebsd...@freebsd.org; freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2014 3:03 PM Subject:

Re: [ZFS][PANIC] Solaris Assert/zio.c:2548

2014-07-20 Thread Larry Rosenman
On 2014-07-20 14:18, Steven Hartland wrote: Can you provide the details of the zio which caused the panic? Also does any of your pools support trim? No, on the trim. Can you walk me through getting the zio you need? Regards Steve - Original Message - From: Larry Rosenman

Re: [ZFS][PANIC] Solaris Assert/zio.c:2548

2014-07-20 Thread Steven Hartland
Something like following should allow you to get the zio details assuming the compile has optimised it out: cd /var/crash kgdb /boot/kernel/kernel /var/crash/vmcore.5 kgdb frame 5 kgdb print zio Regards Steve - Original Message - From: Larry Rosenman l...@lerctr.org To: Steven

Re: Future of pf / firewall in FreeBSD ? - does it have one ?

2014-07-20 Thread Daniel Feenberg
On Sun, 20 Jul 2014, Lars Engels wrote: On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 12:18:54PM +0100, krad wrote: all of that is true, but you are missing the point. Having two versions of pf on the bsd's at the user level, is a bad thing. It confuses people, which puts them off. Its a classic case of divide an

Re: Future of pf / firewall in FreeBSD ? - does it have one ?

2014-07-20 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
On Jul 20, 2014, at 11:35 AM, Daniel Feenberg feenb...@nber.org wrote: Rather they have said An updated pf would not be suitable, as it would be incompatible with existing configuration files. A major FreeBSD version increment is allowed to break that level of backwards compatibility.

Re: Future of pf / firewall in FreeBSD ? - does it have one ?

2014-07-20 Thread Kurt Jaeger
Hi! And you don't seem to get the point that _someone_ has to do the work. No one has stepped up so far, so nothing is going to change. Franco Fichtner said he's interested in doing it. He probably needs funding. No one with authority has yet said that If an updated pf were available,

Re: Future of pf / firewall in FreeBSD ? - does it have one ?

2014-07-20 Thread Stephen Hurd
krad wrote: all of that is true, but you are missing the point. Having two versions of pf on the bsd's at the user level, is a bad thing. It confuses people, which puts them off. Its a classic case of divide an conquer for other platforms. I really like the idea of the openpf version, that

Re: Future of pf / firewall in FreeBSD ? - does it have one ?

2014-07-20 Thread Adrian Chadd
Noone needs to say you can do X. You can just fork freebsd in whatever form you want, update to the latest github and work to eventually get it included. Or you could treat it as an entirely external-from-system plugin module that you compile up - the packet filter hooks API lets you do this

Re: [ZFS][PANIC] Solaris Assert/zio.c:2548

2014-07-20 Thread Steven Hartland
Can you try reverting r265321 and see if you still see the same crash? Regards Steve ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to

Re: [ZFS][PANIC] Solaris Assert/zio.c:2548

2014-07-20 Thread Larry Rosenman
On 2014-07-20 18:21, Steven Hartland wrote: Can you try reverting r265321 and see if you still see the same crash? Regards Steve I'll do the revert, but it's been a ONE TIME hit. There was a followup to mine with a reproducible poudriere crash like mine. -- Larry Rosenman

Re: Future of pf / firewall in FreeBSD ? - does it have one ?

2014-07-20 Thread Andreas Nilsson
On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 7:41 PM, Alexander Kabaev kab...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 20 Jul 2014 10:15:36 -0400 Maxim Khitrov m...@mxcrypt.com wrote: On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 8:39 AM, Lars Engels lars.eng...@0x20.net wrote: On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 12:18:54PM +0100, krad wrote: all of

Re: [ZFS][PANIC] Solaris Assert/zio.c:2548

2014-07-20 Thread Steven Hartland
- Original Message - From: Larry Rosenman l...@lerctr.org To: Steven Hartland kill...@multiplay.co.uk Cc: freebsd...@freebsd.org; freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sent: Monday, July 21, 2014 12:22 AM Subject: Re: [ZFS][PANIC] Solaris Assert/zio.c:2548 On 2014-07-20 18:21, Steven Hartland

Re: [ZFS][PANIC] Solaris Assert/zio.c:2548

2014-07-20 Thread Larry Rosenman
On 2014-07-20 18:46, Steven Hartland wrote: - Original Message - From: Larry Rosenman l...@lerctr.org To: Steven Hartland kill...@multiplay.co.uk Cc: freebsd...@freebsd.org; freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sent: Monday, July 21, 2014 12:22 AM Subject: Re: [ZFS][PANIC] Solaris

Re: [ZFS][PANIC] Solaris Assert/zio.c:2548

2014-07-20 Thread Steven Hartland
- Original Message - From: Dan Mack m...@macktronics.com I think I may have hit the same problem; I'm going to stay connected to the console and see if it happens again; this is what I see currently with the back-trace: db bt Tracing pid 0 tid 100070 td 0xf8000e088920

Re: [ZFS][PANIC] Solaris Assert/zio.c:2548

2014-07-20 Thread Dan Mack
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014, Steven Hartland wrote: - Original Message - From: Larry Rosenman l...@lerctr.org To: Steven Hartland kill...@multiplay.co.uk Cc: freebsd...@freebsd.org; freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sent: Monday, July 21, 2014 12:22 AM Subject: Re: [ZFS][PANIC] Solaris

Re: [ZFS][PANIC] Solaris Assert/zio.c:2548

2014-07-20 Thread Dan Mack
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014, Steven Hartland wrote: - Original Message - From: Dan Mack m...@macktronics.com I think I may have hit the same problem; I'm going to stay connected to the console and see if it happens again; this is what I see currently with the back-trace: db bt Tracing pid 0

Re: [ZFS][PANIC] Solaris Assert/zio.c:2548

2014-07-20 Thread Dan Mack
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014, Steven Hartland wrote: I just updated to I think 268921 earlier today and this is the first time I've had a panic (HEAD-268921 that is) I'll try to get some more data if I can get it back up and running. That doesn't look like a related trace tbh. Regards Steve

Re: Future of pf / firewall in FreeBSD ? - does it have one ?

2014-07-20 Thread Daniel Feenberg
On Sun, 20 Jul 2014, Kurt Jaeger wrote: Hi! And you don't seem to get the point that _someone_ has to do the work. No one has stepped up so far, so nothing is going to change. Franco Fichtner said he's interested in doing it. He probably needs funding. No one with authority has yet said

Re: [ZFS][PANIC] Solaris Assert/zio.c:2548

2014-07-20 Thread Steven Hartland
- Original Message - From: Dan Mack m...@macktronics.com To: Steven Hartland kill...@multiplay.co.uk Cc: freebsd...@freebsd.org; freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Larry Rosenman l...@lerctr.org Sent: Monday, July 21, 2014 2:29 AM Subject: Re: [ZFS][PANIC] Solaris Assert/zio.c:2548 On

Re: [ZFS][PANIC] Solaris Assert/zio.c:2548

2014-07-20 Thread Steven Hartland
- Original Message - From: Dan Mack m...@macktronics.com To: Steven Hartland kill...@multiplay.co.uk Cc: freebsd...@freebsd.org; freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Larry Rosenman l...@lerctr.org Sent: Monday, July 21, 2014 2:29 AM Subject: Re: [ZFS][PANIC] Solaris Assert/zio.c:2548 On

Re: Future of pf / firewall in FreeBSD ? - does it have one ?

2014-07-20 Thread Julian Elischer
On 7/20/14, 12:36 PM, Darren Pilgrim wrote: The vast majority of people don't know pf is outdated and broken on FreeBSD because they don't know what they're missing and likely aren't using IPv6 yet. s/IPv6/pf/ Most people I talk to just use ipfw and couldn't care whether pf lives or dies.

Re: Future of pf / firewall in FreeBSD ? - does it have one ?

2014-07-20 Thread Julian Elischer
On 7/21/14, 7:27 AM, Andreas Nilsson wrote: On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 7:41 PM, Alexander Kabaev kab...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 20 Jul 2014 10:15:36 -0400 Maxim Khitrov m...@mxcrypt.com wrote: On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 8:39 AM, Lars Engels lars.eng...@0x20.net wrote: On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at

Re: [ZFS][PANIC] Solaris Assert/zio.c:2548

2014-07-20 Thread Florian Smeets
On 21/07/14 01:46, Steven Hartland wrote: - Original Message - From: Larry Rosenman l...@lerctr.org To: Steven Hartland kill...@multiplay.co.uk Cc: freebsd...@freebsd.org; freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sent: Monday, July 21, 2014 12:22 AM Subject: Re: [ZFS][PANIC] Solaris

Re: Future of pf / firewall in FreeBSD ? - does it have one ?

2014-07-20 Thread Andreas Nilsson
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 5:24 AM, Julian Elischer jul...@freebsd.org wrote: On 7/21/14, 7:27 AM, Andreas Nilsson wrote: On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 7:41 PM, Alexander Kabaev kab...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 20 Jul 2014 10:15:36 -0400 Maxim Khitrov m...@mxcrypt.com wrote: On Sun, Jul 20, 2014

Re: Future of pf / firewall in FreeBSD ? - does it have one ?

2014-07-20 Thread Andreas Nilsson
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 7:41 AM, sth...@nethelp.no wrote: Also, the openbsd stack has some essential features missing in freebsd, like mpls and md5 auth for bgp sessions. I use MD5 auth for BGP sessions every day (and have been doing so for several releases). One could definitely wish for

Re: Future of pf / firewall in FreeBSD ? - does it have one ?

2014-07-20 Thread sthaug
Also, the openbsd stack has some essential features missing in freebsd, like mpls and md5 auth for bgp sessions. I use MD5 auth for BGP sessions every day (and have been doing so for several releases). One could definitely wish for better integration - having to specify MD5 key both in