Re: emu10k1 problems solved
Alexander Sanda wrote: > > At 09:15 07.08.2000 +0200, Benedikt Schmidt wrote: > > >Just wanted to say that with the recent changes in the > >emu10k1 driver all my problems with it have disappeared. > > > >There are no more "dodgy irq" messages > >and the sound quality has improved too (no more crackling). > > Just a quick question... > > Is it possible to get this driver working under 4.1-STABLE aswell, or are > the changes in the -current kernel already too big? > > Or is it officially planned to merge this updated driver into the -STABLE > branch? Grab /sys/dev/sound/pci/emu10k1.c and /sys/gnu/dev/sound/pci/emu10k1.h from -current and recompile kernel.. no problems. -mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: hotmail now running win2000
On Tue, 8 Aug 2000, Irwan Hadi wrote: >At 12:28 AM 8/9/00 -0400, Brian Hechinger wrote: >>Irwan Hadi drunkenly mumbled... >> > Sigh http://www.netcraft.com/whats/?host=www.hotmail.com >> >>not on all the machines however. re-run the query, sometimes you get: >> >>www.hotmail.com is running Apache/1.3.6 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.8 SSLeay/0.9.0b >>on FreeBSD >> >>got both goin. just in case w2k didn't make the grade i assume. > >But I guess soon they will change all their freeBSD servers ;( >and I wonder, how many people should be employed by Microsoft, just to >press the restart button at their 2000 servers for Hotmail, in case they >got BSOD ? I hate to dissapoint you all, but Windows NT (certainly 4 and 5(win2k), not sure about 3.51 because I havent used it) has a "feature" to enable automatic reboot at BSOD. Its just off by default, whereas FreeBSD has this feature on by default :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: crypt(3) problems
hi, there! On Tue, 8 Aug 2000, Brian Fundakowski Feldman wrote: > We should switch to using just libdescrypt and being allowed to switch > crypt formats easily between md5 and des. My proposed solution using > login.conf is at http://people.FreeBSD.org/~green/crypt_switching.patch, > and it's going to be put into production usage relatively soon (that is, > whether or not it's actually in FreeBSD). this would solve a lot of problems with libcrypt for third-party software developers. at this time to ensure that our product will work on any FreeBSD installation we link libdescrypt statically (which is a pain in the ass if f.e. libtool is used) /fjoe To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: hotmail now running win2000
Take this to -chat or -advocacy, PLEASE. This is nowhere near a relevant topic for -current. Brandon D. Valentine -- bandix at looksharp.net | bandix at structbio.vanderbilt.edu "Truth suffers from too much analysis." -- Ancient Fremen Saying To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: hotmail now running win2000
Daniel O'Connor drunkenly mumbled... > > Personally I would wire something up to the reset switch instead.. > > Much less potential for accidentally nuking your hardware if your script is > broken and starts toggling machines on and off like mad.. > (much less violent on disk etc too) but how feasable is that for a large installation. would you like to pull 2000 machines apart and make the needed modifications? the masterswitch solutions is "plug 'n play" it just a powerstip as far as i''m concerned. just food for thought. -b To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: hotmail now running win2000
On 09-Aug-00 The Hermit Hacker wrote: > use something like netsaint to monitor those machines? and the APC master > switch is web administered, so it would be too easy to build a quick perl > script to trigger a power outlet correspondign to the partiular server > that was n olonger responding ... Personally I would wire something up to the reset switch instead.. Much less potential for accidentally nuking your hardware if your script is broken and starts toggling machines on and off like mad.. (much less violent on disk etc too) --- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: hotmail now running win2000
On Tue, 8 Aug 2000, Irwan Hadi wrote: > At 12:44 AM 8/9/00 -0400, Brian Hechinger wrote: > >Irwan Hadi drunkenly mumbled... > > > > > > But I guess soon they will change all their freeBSD servers ;( > > > and I wonder, how many people should be employed by Microsoft, just to > > > press the restart button at their 2000 servers for Hotmail, in case they > > > got BSOD ? > > > >it's called the APC MasterSwitch (or similar peoduct by alternate vendor) > > > >reboot machines over the network. takes the place of 64.2% of all people > >employed with the word microsoft in their title. > > Including MCSE, MCP , etc ? ;) :) > > BTW how can the administrator of hotmail determine if a server is BSOD or > not then ?, because they have 2000 servers and I think without enough > employees to watch the system and how can APC master switch reboot the > machine in case it BSOD ? use something like netsaint to monitor those machines? and the APC master switch is web administered, so it would be too easy to build a quick perl script to trigger a power outlet correspondign to the partiular server that was n olonger responding ... To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: hotmail now running win2000
Irwan Hadi drunkenly mumbled... > > Including MCSE, MCP , etc ? ;) :) bingo. > BTW how can the administrator of hotmail determine if a server is BSOD or > not then ?, because they have 2000 servers and I think without enough > employees to watch the system and how can APC master switch reboot the > machine in case it BSOD ? SNMP is your friend. -b To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: hotmail now running win2000
On Wed, 9 Aug 2000, Brian Hechinger wrote:
> Irwan Hadi drunkenly mumbled...
> >
> > But I guess soon they will change all their freeBSD servers ;(
> > and I wonder, how many people should be employed by Microsoft, just to
> > press the restart button at their 2000 servers for Hotmail, in case they
> > got BSOD ?
>
> it's called the APC MasterSwitch (or similar peoduct by alternate vendor)
>
> reboot machines over the network. takes the place of 64.2% of all people
> employed with the word microsoft in their title.
and they do have their own 'Foundry' like product that they can use as a
front end ...
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Re: hotmail now running win2000
At 12:44 AM 8/9/00 -0400, Brian Hechinger wrote: >Irwan Hadi drunkenly mumbled... > > > > But I guess soon they will change all their freeBSD servers ;( > > and I wonder, how many people should be employed by Microsoft, just to > > press the restart button at their 2000 servers for Hotmail, in case they > > got BSOD ? > >it's called the APC MasterSwitch (or similar peoduct by alternate vendor) > >reboot machines over the network. takes the place of 64.2% of all people >employed with the word microsoft in their title. Including MCSE, MCP , etc ? ;) :) BTW how can the administrator of hotmail determine if a server is BSOD or not then ?, because they have 2000 servers and I think without enough employees to watch the system and how can APC master switch reboot the machine in case it BSOD ? To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: hotmail now running win2000
Irwan Hadi drunkenly mumbled... > > But I guess soon they will change all their freeBSD servers ;( > and I wonder, how many people should be employed by Microsoft, just to > press the restart button at their 2000 servers for Hotmail, in case they > got BSOD ? it's called the APC MasterSwitch (or similar peoduct by alternate vendor) reboot machines over the network. takes the place of 64.2% of all people employed with the word microsoft in their title. -b To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: hotmail now running win2000
At 12:28 AM 8/9/00 -0400, Brian Hechinger wrote: >Irwan Hadi drunkenly mumbled... > > Sigh http://www.netcraft.com/whats/?host=www.hotmail.com > >not on all the machines however. re-run the query, sometimes you get: > >www.hotmail.com is running Apache/1.3.6 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.8 SSLeay/0.9.0b >on FreeBSD > >got both goin. just in case w2k didn't make the grade i assume. But I guess soon they will change all their freeBSD servers ;( and I wonder, how many people should be employed by Microsoft, just to press the restart button at their 2000 servers for Hotmail, in case they got BSOD ? To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: hotmail now running win2000 (not all of it)
On 8 Aug, Irwan Hadi wrote: > Sigh http://www.netcraft.com/whats/?host=www.hotmail.com www.hotmail.com is running Apache/1.3.6 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.8 SSLeay/0.9.0b on FreeBSD at least on my query. Every 3rd query comes up with W2k. This time they approaching this a bit more careful ... -Th To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: hotmail now running win2000
Irwan Hadi drunkenly mumbled... > Sigh http://www.netcraft.com/whats/?host=www.hotmail.com not on all the machines however. re-run the query, sometimes you get: www.hotmail.com is running Apache/1.3.6 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.8 SSLeay/0.9.0b on FreeBSD got both goin. just in case w2k didn't make the grade i assume. -brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
hotmail now running win2000
Sigh http://www.netcraft.com/whats/?host=www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: emu10k1 problems solved
At 09:15 07.08.2000 +0200, Benedikt Schmidt wrote: >Just wanted to say that with the recent changes in the >emu10k1 driver all my problems with it have disappeared. > >There are no more "dodgy irq" messages >and the sound quality has improved too (no more crackling). Just a quick question... Is it possible to get this driver working under 4.1-STABLE aswell, or are the changes in the -current kernel already too big? Or is it officially planned to merge this updated driver into the -STABLE branch? To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Request for review/comments - new option for uname(1)
The output of ``uname -a'' appears in hundreds of e-mails and PRs yet
the output format is not ideal for this (especially e-mail in
80-column mail readers) as it is a single line.
Attached is a patch for an enhancement I've made that adds a new
option ``-A'' (rather than change ``-a'') that splits it up into 3
lines thus making it better for including verbatim in e-mails and PRs:
# uname -A
FreeBSD parish 4.1-STABLE FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE #0:
Tue Aug 8 00:51:02 BST 2000
mark@parish:/usr/src/sys/compile/PARISH i386
The only thing I couldn't work out is why sysctl() adds 5 spaces after
the date sub-string, so I've haven't stripped them out (hence the
indented third line).
Is there any reason why this is unacceptable and could not be committed?
BTW, please Cc: me.
Thanks for your time.
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--- uname.c.origTue Aug 8 21:32:36 2000
+++ uname.c Tue Aug 8 21:53:20 2000
@@ -61,16 +61,20 @@
#defineRFLAG 0x04
#defineSFLAG 0x08
#defineVFLAG 0x10
+#defineAFLAG 0x20
u_int flags;
int ch, mib[2];
size_t len, tlen;
char *p, *prefix, buf[1024];
flags = 0;
- while ((ch = getopt(argc, argv, "amnprsv")) != -1)
+ while ((ch = getopt(argc, argv, "Aamnprsv")) != -1)
switch(ch) {
+ case 'A':
case 'a':
flags |= (MFLAG | NFLAG | RFLAG | SFLAG | VFLAG);
+ if (ch == 'A')
+ flags |= AFLAG;
break;
case 'p':
case 'm':
@@ -137,9 +141,22 @@
len = sizeof(buf);
if (sysctl(mib, 2, &buf, &len, NULL, 0) == -1)
err(1, "sysctl");
- for (p = buf, tlen = len; tlen--; ++p)
- if (*p == '\n' || *p == '\t')
- *p = ' ';
+
+ if (flags & AFLAG) {
+ for (p = buf, tlen = len; tlen--; ++p)
+ if (*p == ':') {
+ *++p = '\n';
+ break;
+ }
+
+ if (buf[strlen(buf) - 1] == '\n')
+ buf[strlen(buf) - 1] = '\0';
+ } else {
+ for (p = buf, tlen = len; tlen--; ++p)
+ if (*p == '\n' || *p == '\t')
+ *p = ' ';
+ }
+
(void)printf("%s%.*s", prefix, (int)len, buf);
prefix = " ";
}
Re: crypt(3) problems
We should switch to using just libdescrypt and being allowed to switch crypt formats easily between md5 and des. My proposed solution using login.conf is at http://people.FreeBSD.org/~green/crypt_switching.patch, and it's going to be put into production usage relatively soon (that is, whether or not it's actually in FreeBSD). -- Brian Fundakowski Feldman \ FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! / [EMAIL PROTECTED]`--' To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
crypt(3) problems
There are many cases (e.g. apache with external sources doing crypt) where it is necessary to have libscrypt the default crypt for logins, etc, and libdescrypt available for linking (e.g. apache). Since the realignment of crypt sources to the internat versions (which I generally like), this is not possible without a change to the makefile in /usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypt so that LCRYPTBASE is libdescrypt and NOT libcrypt. The corresponding change may be needed in libscrypt sources too? There are also cases (generating passwords for cisco) where the opposite is needed. The bottom line is that if one asks explicitly for either -ldescrypt or -lscrypt it should get ONLY that library and not the other, independent of the symlinks. This was working fine till the merge of usa and internat versions. There was other related heartburn but I finally discovered the change to make.conf that fixed it :-) -- Pete To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: Ugly, slow shutdown
> It's not just that, if you always have to cover your behind when
> doing tsleep you may wind up masking wakeup bugs. Places like
> "vfs_bio.c" line 586 of 3182:
>
> bp->b_xflags |= BX_BKGRDWAIT;
> tsleep(&bp->b_xflags, PRIBIO, "biord", 0);
> if (bp->b_xflags & BX_BKGRDINPROG)
> panic("bwrite: still writing");
> }
>
> If replaced by a while() _may_ obscure a buffercache bug.
>
> Personally I'd like to be able to catch such bugs than let them go
> because the API (wakeups can happen at any time) prohibits this.
No in a fully threaded world.
Nate
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inheriting certificate trust
< said: > I've used this certificate to sign a new certificate, and Microsoft > recognizes it and the trust chain, and will use it for verifying the > servers identity, but not for mail. My guess is that (regardless of the software issues involved) you've just violated your agreement with Veri$ign. I would not be surprised if Exploder and Outbreak will only accept a certificate for one purpose, regardless of how many options are set in the certificate's keyUsage. -GAWollman To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: Ugly, slow shutdown
* David Greenman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [000807 23:15] wrote:
> >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Greenman
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Obviously the waker-upper knows that the condition is true. Otherwise
> >the existing code which doesn't check wouldn't work. In the expensive
> >cases the waker-upper could simply set a flag for the sleeper to
> >check.
>
>For me, that doesn't make the code easier to read or understand - it has
> the opposite effect. ...but then I'm used to the historical symantics and
> naturally consider the possible cases when looking at the code.
>
> >Note, I am not expressing an opinion about whether the sleeps should
> >be terminated prematurely during shutdown. But I am expressing a
> >strong opinion about whether sleepers should do a reality check before
> >proceeding.
>
>I could be persuaded to think that way, but I still remain unconvinced.
> Again, I'm used to the historical symantics, so changing them requires a
> pretty good justification and a bit of brain rewiring, which I naturally
> resist.
It's not just that, if you always have to cover your behind when
doing tsleep you may wind up masking wakeup bugs. Places like
"vfs_bio.c" line 586 of 3182:
bp->b_xflags |= BX_BKGRDWAIT;
tsleep(&bp->b_xflags, PRIBIO, "biord", 0);
if (bp->b_xflags & BX_BKGRDINPROG)
panic("bwrite: still writing");
}
If replaced by a while() _may_ obscure a buffercache bug.
Personally I'd like to be able to catch such bugs than let them go
because the API (wakeups can happen at any time) prohibits this.
-Alfred
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