Re: microuptime() went backwards

2000-10-07 Thread Bruce Evans

On Sat, 7 Oct 2000, Valentin Nechayev wrote:

 At Fri, 6 Oct 2000 22:00:23 + (UTC), jhb wrote:

 JB tc_windup() wasn't called soon enough to update the timecounter.  Making
 
 On my system _each_ boot causes hundreds of these messages.
 And as described, long offsets without updating are caused by some
 code in drivers, i.e. DELAY(100) in isa/fd.c. Is it nesessary to call
 tc_windup() between iterations in isa_configure? ;|

Not really.  The timecounters overflow to bizarre values if the boot takes
a long time (more than about 4 seconds), but there is no problem unless
something looks at the time before tc_windup() is working and expects the
time to be monotonic.  Previously mi_switch() looked at the time before
tc_windup() was called, and this was impossible to avoid because getting
to tc_windup() involved a context switch.  Now the misbehaviour should
only be visible using a debugger or debugging code that prints the time.

Bruce



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Re: make installkernel broken by recent manpage changes

2000-10-07 Thread Wilko Bulte

On Fri, Oct 06, 2000 at 01:27:08PM -0700, Steve Kargl wrote:
 === joy
 install -C -c -o root -g wheel -m 555   joy.ko /boot/kernel
 install -C -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 joy.8.gz  /usr/share/man/man8
 install: joy.8.gz: No such file or directory
 *** Error code 71

Saw this 2 minutes ago too on alpha

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downgrade?

2000-10-07 Thread Philipp Huber

hi!

is it possible to downgrade a freebsd-current installation to -stable?
or is it better to reinstall the whole system?

thx
Philipp


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Re: downgrade?

2000-10-07 Thread Alfred Perlstein

* Philipp Huber [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001007 04:08] wrote:
 hi!
 
 is it possible to downgrade a freebsd-current installation to -stable?
 or is it better to reinstall the whole system?

It's possible by building a 4.x-stable system and tar'ing the
/usr/src and /usr/obj over to your -current then doing several
'make -k installworld' followed by a 'make installworld' to make
sure it's all been installed then by building a kernel using the
"make buildkernel" method described in src/UPDATING.

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Latest ACPICA megapatch now up

2000-10-07 Thread Mike Smith


http://people.freebsd.org/~msmith/acpica-bsd-20001007.tar.gz

This includes:

 - ACPI as PnP enumerator for ISA (there are issues here, and this doesn't
   disable the "real" PnPBIOS code yet, so you will get duplicates on some
   machines).
 - Power/Sleep button code (Iwasaki-san)
 - Improved Embedded Controller support (Watanabe-san, changed somewhat
   by me, not tested in changed form)
 - ioctl interface for compatibility with the previous codebase

And probably a whole lot more that I've forgotten.  Comments, 
suggestions, etc. welcome as usual.


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downgrade to stable?

2000-10-07 Thread Philipp Huber

hi!

is it possible to downgrade a freebsd-current installation to -stable?
or is it better to reinstall the whole system?

thx
Philipp


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Recent kernels won't boot

2000-10-07 Thread Bob Bishop

Hi,

Kernels built from recent cvsup (24 hrs) quit immediately on boot, back to
the BIOS, no messages no nothin'.


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pcmcia and ed

2000-10-07 Thread Wesley Morgan

Some recent change to either the ed device or pccard support is making the
kernel hiccup on my ethernet card:

ed0 at port 0x300-0x31f irq 10 slot 1 on pccard1
ed0: address 00:e0:98:88:db:09, type Linksys (16 bit)
module_register: module isa/ed already exists!
Module isa/ed failed to register: 17
module_register: module isa/ed already exists!
Module isa/ed failed to register: 17
module_register: module pccard/ed already exists!
Module pccard/ed failed to register: 17
module_register: module pci/ed already exists!
Module pci/ed failed to register: 17

the driver is compiled in the kernel, but it is loading the KLD
anyway. Everything still functions, however.


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cvs servers load

2000-10-07 Thread Dennis Glatting


Any running load information on the CVS servers available? I'd like to
adjust my pointers to help spread the load. My current pointers, for
myself and two clients, is cvsup3.

My location:Redmond, Washington
(across lake Sammamish from the Evil Empire)


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ahc panic on 24hr kernel ...

2000-10-07 Thread The Hermit Hacker


source code CVSup as of early this morning, system is a dual celeron, with
the following scsi controller:

ahc0: Adaptec 2940 Ultra SCSI adapter port 0xc800-0xc8ff mem 0xef00-0xef000fff 
irq 17 at device 13.0 on pci0

after little time after rebooting, and sped up by doing a make world, I
get:

-
Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode
cpuid = 1; lapic.id = 0100
fault virtual address   = 0x0
fault code  = supervisor read, page not present
instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc0131464
stack pointer   = 0x10:0xcb7a3e90
frame pointer   = 0x10:0xcb7a3ea0
code segment= base 0x0, limit 0xf, type 0x1b
= DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1
processor eflags= interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 6
current process = 16 ( irq 17: ahc0 )
kernel: type 12 trap, code = 0

CPU1 stopping CPUs: 0x0001... stopped
Stopped at ahc_match_scb+0x18: movl 0(%esi),%eax


and a trace from DDB shows:

ahc_match_scb() @ +0x18
ahc_search_qinfifo  @ +0xf7
ahc_freeze_devq @ +0x5d
ahc_handle_seqint   @ +0x135
ahc_freebsd_intr@ +0x97
ithd_loop   @ +0x6f
fork_trampoline @ +0x44




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Re: cvs servers load

2000-10-07 Thread jdp

In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dennis Glatting
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Any running load information on the CVS servers available?

Nope, sorry.

 I'd like to adjust my pointers to help spread the load. My current
 pointers, for myself and two clients, is cvsup3.
 
 My location:  Redmond, Washington
   (across lake Sammamish from the Evil Empire)

Often the newer (higher numbered) servers are less loaded than the
older ones.  CVSup9.FreeBSD.org is brand new and could handle a lot
more clients.  It's a fast machine and it's still sitting idle most
of the time.  Given where you live, you might want to try cvsup7,
since it is located just across Lake Washington from you in the Westin
building.  If you're lucky, you might be able to get to it without
having your packets travel halfway across the US and back.

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cvs servers load

2000-10-07 Thread Garrett Wollman

On Sat, 07 Oct 2000 07:59:08 -0700, Dennis Glatting 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

 Any running load information on the CVS servers available?

I keep stats for cvsup3 (thanks to cricket and ucd-snmp).  cvsup3
peaks out in the early morning with a five-minute load between 12 and
17.  Rarely does the load average get below 2.  Cvsup3's swap
utilization hovers around 200 MB most of the day, and exceeds 300 MB
during that peak.  For all that, it's still only pushing about 4
Mbit/s peak -- or about an eighth what rpmfind.net does six
floor-tiles away.

I was hoping to replace it this year, but the money got pushed out of
the budget.  (Run machines into the ground, we do!  I still maintain
some services running on a seven-year-old Sparc IPX.)

If anyone has half a gig of memory (4 x 128M or 8 x 64M) for an Intel
BB440FX and would like a tax deduction

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ccd causing page fault in kernel

2000-10-07 Thread John DeBoskey

Hi,

   I don't have alot of information to provide yet on 
this yet. The fault information scrolls off the top of the
console...

   I have /usr/obj mounted on a ccd. Less then 2 minutes
into a make world, the console shows a ccd problem, error 5.
Page fault in the kernel.

   The above problem is repeatable (but the machine is not
infront of me right now).

   I unmounted the /usr/obj ccd filesystem, and am running
a make world onto the /usr system which is not a ccd and
things seem to work fine (so far).

   It may be monday before I can get a kernel rebuilt with
the debugger enabled.

   This is a single processor machine, UP kernel, sources
current as of 11:30am EST. No error information is written
to syslog.

   

-John

-- dmesg

Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #0: Sat Oct  7 11:39:55 EDT 2000
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/compile/FreeBSD
Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
Timecounter "TSC"  frequency 548627644 Hz
CPU: Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon/Celeron (548.63-MHz 686-class CPU)
  Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x673  Stepping = 3

Features=0x383f9ffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE
real memory  = 402653184 (393216K bytes)
avail memory = 387346432 (378268K bytes)
Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc03f6000.
ccd0-3: Concatenated disk drivers
Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled
md0: Malloc disk
npx0: math processor on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
pcib0: Intel 82443BX (440 BX) host to PCI bridge at pcibus 0 on motherboard
pci0: PCI bus on pcib0
pcib1: Intel 82443BX (440 BX) PCI-PCI (AGP) bridge at device 1.0 on pci0
pci1: PCI bus on pcib1
pci1: ATI Mach64-GB graphics accelerator at 0.0 irq 11
isab0: Intel 82371AB PCI to ISA bridge at device 7.0 on pci0
isa0: ISA bus on isab0
atapci0: Intel PIIX4 ATA33 controller port 0xffa0-0xffaf at device 7.1 on
pci0
atapci0: Busmastering DMA enabled
ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0
ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0
uhci0: Intel 82371AB/EB (PIIX4) USB controller port 0xdce0-0xdcff irq 11 at
device 7.2 on pci0
usb0: Intel 82371AB/EB (PIIX4) USB controller on uhci0
usb0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
pci0: Intel 82371AB Power management controller at 7.3
ahc0: Adaptec 2940 Ultra SCSI adapter port 0xd800-0xd8ff mem
0xff002000-0xff002fff irq 10 at device 13.0 on pci0
aic7880: Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs
ahc1: Adaptec 2940/DUAL Ultra SCSI adapter port 0xd400-0xd4ff mem
0xff001000-0xff001fff irq 9 at device 14.0 on pci0
aic7895: Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 32/255 SCBs
ahc2: Adaptec 2940/DUAL Ultra SCSI adapter port 0xd000-0xd0ff mem
0xff00-0xff000fff irq 11 at device 14.1 on pci0
aic7895: Single Channel B, SCSI Id=7, 32/255 SCBs
pcib2: DEC 21152 PCI-PCI bridge at device 15.0 on pci0
pci2: PCI bus on pcib2
xl0: 3Com 3c905B-TX Fast Etherlink XL port 0xdc00-0xdc7f mem
0xff003000-0xff00307f irq 11 at device 17.0 on pci0
xl0: Ethernet address: 00:b0:d0:25:67:2a
miibus0: MII bus on xl0
xlphy0: 3Com internal media interface on miibus0
xlphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
fdc0: NEC 72065B or clone at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0
fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold
fd0: 1440-KB 3.5" drive on fdc0 drive 0
atkbdc0: Keyboard controller (i8042) at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0
atkbd0: AT Keyboard flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0
kbd0 at atkbd0
psm0: PS/2 Mouse irq 12 on atkbdc0
psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0
vga0: Generic ISA VGA at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa-0xb on isa0
sc0: System console at flags 0x100 on isa0
sc0: VGA 16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300
sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0
sio0: type 16550A
sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0
sio1: type 16550A
ppc0: Parallel port at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0
ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode
ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/8 bytes threshold
plip0: PLIP network interface on ppbus0
lpt0: Printer on ppbus0
lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
ppi0: Parallel I/O on ppbus0
pcm0: CS423x at port 0x534-0x537,0x388-0x38b,0x220-0x22f irq 5 drq 1,0 on
isa0
unknown: PNP0501 can't assign resources
unknown: PNP0501 can't assign resources
unknown: PNP0401 can't assign resources
unknown: PNP0700 can't assign resources
unknown: PNP0f13 can't assign resources
unknown: PNP0303 can't assign resources
ad0: 19473MB Maxtor 92049U6 [39566/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA33
ad1: 12416MB QUANTUM FIREBALL CX13.0A [25228/16/63] at ata0-slave UDMA33
acd0: CDROM SAMSUNG CD-ROM SC-140F at ata1-master using UDMA33
Waiting 5 seconds for SCSI devices to settle
Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a
da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0
da0: SEAGATE ST34572W 0784 Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device 
da0: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged 

Re: pcmcia and ed

2000-10-07 Thread Warner Losh

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Wesley Morgan writes:
: Some recent change to either the ed device or pccard support is making the
: kernel hiccup on my ethernet card:
: 
: ed0 at port 0x300-0x31f irq 10 slot 1 on pccard1
: ed0: address 00:e0:98:88:db:09, type Linksys (16 bit)
: module_register: module isa/ed already exists!
: Module isa/ed failed to register: 17
: module_register: module isa/ed already exists!
: Module isa/ed failed to register: 17
: module_register: module pccard/ed already exists!
: Module pccard/ed failed to register: 17
: module_register: module pci/ed already exists!
: Module pci/ed failed to register: 17
: 
: the driver is compiled in the kernel, but it is loading the KLD
: anyway. Everything still functions, however.

The module name should be if_ed.  I'll go fix it.

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Re: downgrade to stable?

2000-10-07 Thread Warner Losh

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Philipp Huber writes:
: is it possible to downgrade a freebsd-current installation to -stable?
: or is it better to reinstall the whole system?

Yes.  However, it is tricky and not for the feign of heart.  It
involves doing an install world onto the system, rebooting the stable
kernel and then looking for libraries that are too new.

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Re: cvs servers load

2000-10-07 Thread Dennis Glatting


cvsup7 is indeed closer. Thanks.






[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dennis Glatting
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Any running load information on the CVS servers available?
 
 Nope, sorry.
 
  I'd like to adjust my pointers to help spread the load. My current
  pointers, for myself and two clients, is cvsup3.
 
  My location:  Redmond, Washington
(across lake Sammamish from the Evil Empire)
 
 Often the newer (higher numbered) servers are less loaded than the
 older ones.  CVSup9.FreeBSD.org is brand new and could handle a lot
 more clients.  It's a fast machine and it's still sitting idle most
 of the time.  Given where you live, you might want to try cvsup7,
 since it is located just across Lake Washington from you in the Westin
 building.  If you're lucky, you might be able to get to it without
 having your packets travel halfway across the US and back.
 
 John
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Re: cvs servers load

2000-10-07 Thread Karsten W. Rohrbach

if somebody knows the doodads and pitfalls in linux cvs in conjuction
with cvsupd and is able to tell me what goes wrong, i could get the
cvsupd on filepile running. at the moment i got a somewhat borken
repository which might come from the linux ccvs. i do not know very much
about cvsup's interoperation with cvs but apparently something goes
really wrong on that box :-/ if we could get that box running we would
have a high volume euro cvsup repo in place. (at the moment the box runs
at about 30 to 50mbit/s 24x7 with peaks at 17:00 local time with less
that 10% cpu consumption and a load far below 1, normally around 0.30)

no flames please, this box is running on linux due to driver support for
the hardware no more no less.

/k

Garrett Wollman([EMAIL PROTECTED])@Sat, Oct 07, 2000 at 01:36:43PM -0400:
 On Sat, 07 Oct 2000 07:59:08 -0700, Dennis Glatting 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 
  Any running load information on the CVS servers available?
 
 I keep stats for cvsup3 (thanks to cricket and ucd-snmp).  cvsup3
 peaks out in the early morning with a five-minute load between 12 and
 17.  Rarely does the load average get below 2.  Cvsup3's swap
 utilization hovers around 200 MB most of the day, and exceeds 300 MB
 during that peak.  For all that, it's still only pushing about 4
 Mbit/s peak -- or about an eighth what rpmfind.net does six
 floor-tiles away.
 
 I was hoping to replace it this year, but the money got pushed out of
 the budget.  (Run machines into the ground, we do!  I still maintain
 some services running on a seven-year-old Sparc IPX.)
 
 If anyone has half a gig of memory (4 x 128M or 8 x 64M) for an Intel
 BB440FX and would like a tax deduction
 
 -GAWollman
 
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Re: cvs commit: CVSROOT avail

2000-10-07 Thread Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami

I'll post another message when I'm done.

-PW
---
From: Satoshi Asami [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 11:39:58 -0700 (PDT)
X-FreeBSD-CVS-Branch: HEAD
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asami   2000/10/07 11:39:58 PDT

  Modified files:
.avail 
  Log:
  The ports tree is now locked for the layout change.
  
  Revision  ChangesPath
  1.127 +2 -2  CVSROOT/avail


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Re: cvs servers load

2000-10-07 Thread David O'Brien

On Sat, Oct 07, 2000 at 10:19:32AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 of the time.  Given where you live, you might want to try cvsup7,

Hey!  That's the one I use -- don't tell anyone about it.  :-)))

Where is cvsup8?  I get the fastest ping times to it.  A traceroute
implies it is also in Seatle, WA.

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Re: downgrade to stable?

2000-10-07 Thread David O'Brien

On Sat, Oct 07, 2000 at 12:04:15PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
 and then looking for libraries that are too new.

Would one not want to keep the libraries that are too new for things in
/usr/local that would need them.  Since the shlib symlink will be for the
"older" lib, there really isn't any problem having too new ones present.

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Re: make installkernel broken by recent manpage changes

2000-10-07 Thread David O'Brien

On Fri, Oct 06, 2000 at 01:27:08PM -0700, Steve Kargl wrote:
 === joy
 install -C -c -o root -g wheel -m 555   joy.ko /boot/kernel
 install -C -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 joy.8.gz  /usr/share/man/man8
 install: joy.8.gz: No such file or directory
 *** Error code 71

I'll check it out.
 
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Re: Recent kernels won't boot

2000-10-07 Thread Igor Timkin

I haven't any problem:
ivt@ivthome:/home/ivt:3:306uname -a
FreeBSD ivthome.gamma.ru 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #0: Sat Oct  7 13:09:54 MSD 
2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/compile/IVTHOME  i386

 Hi,
 
 Kernels built from recent cvsup (24 hrs) quit immediately on boot, back to
 the BIOS, no messages no nothin'.
 
 
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Re: cvs servers load

2000-10-07 Thread Wilko Bulte

On Sat, Oct 07, 2000 at 11:56:07AM -0700, David O'Brien wrote:
 On Sat, Oct 07, 2000 at 10:19:32AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  of the time.  Given where you live, you might want to try cvsup7,
 
 Hey!  That's the one I use -- don't tell anyone about it.  :-)))
 
 Where is cvsup8?  I get the fastest ping times to it.  A traceroute
 implies it is also in Seatle, WA.

Time to put the cvsup servers on the map with ICBM coordinates maybe?

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Re: cvs servers load

2000-10-07 Thread Jon Parise

On Sat, Oct 07, 2000 at 09:44:39PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote:

 Time to put the cvsup servers on the map with ICBM coordinates maybe?

I think that would actually be quite useful (or, at the very least,
purely informative).

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Re: cvs servers load

2000-10-07 Thread Bill Fumerola

On Sat, Oct 07, 2000 at 04:17:45PM -0400, Jon Parise wrote:

  Time to put the cvsup servers on the map with ICBM coordinates maybe?
 
 I think that would actually be quite useful (or, at the very least,
 purely informative).

I've often thought it would be neat if in sysinstall the ftpX.freebsd.org
mentioned next to it which provider the mirror site [primarily] used
or at least the name of the entity that was hosting it.

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Re: downgrade?

2000-10-07 Thread Alfred Perlstein

* Salvo Bartolotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001007 12:14] wrote:
  Original Message 
 
 On 10/7/00, 12:13:28 PM, Alfred Perlstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 
 regarding Re: downgrade?:
 
 
  * Philipp Huber [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001007 04:08] wrote:
   hi!
  
   is it possible to downgrade a freebsd-current installation to -stable?
   or is it better to reinstall the whole system?
 
  It's possible by building a 4.x-stable system and tar'ing the
  /usr/src and /usr/obj over to your -current then doing several
  'make -k installworld' followed by a 'make installworld' to make
  sure it's all been installed then by building a kernel using the
  "make buildkernel" method described in src/UPDATING.
 
  --
  -Alfred Perlstein - [[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  "I have the heart of a child; I keep it in a jar on my desk."
 
 
 
 Dear Alfred Perlstein,
 
 caution type="I haven't (as yet) tried this" 
 
 From the posts I have been reading, I seem to understand that the 
 following may apply (depending on the divergence/relationship between 
 -CURRENT and -STABLE):
 
 -- It may be necessary to downgrade the toolchain (e.g. binutils; 
 gcc);
 -- It may be necessary to downgrade "script"utils (ie perl).
 
 /caution

Yes you're correct there will be problems with perl, that's 
why you need a 4.x machine to do the building on and that's also
why you may need several 'make -k installworld' runs to finally
get a 'make installworld' to work.

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Re: downgrade?

2000-10-07 Thread Donn Miller

On Sat, 7 Oct 2000, Alfred Perlstein wrote:

 Yes you're correct there will be problems with perl, that's 
 why you need a 4.x machine to do the building on and that's also
 why you may need several 'make -k installworld' runs to finally
 get a 'make installworld' to work.

How about:

sh -c "while true ; do make -k installworld  break ; done"

Would this work?  This is assuming that make -k returns a success
(0) error code when there are no errors.  Does make -k return an error
code when the last command in the Makefile is successful, even if there
are errors?

- Donn



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Re: downgrade?

2000-10-07 Thread Salvo Bartolotta

  Dear Alfred Perlstein,
 
  caution type="I haven't (as yet) tried this"
 
  From the posts I have been reading, I seem to understand that the
  following may apply (depending on the divergence/relationship between
  -CURRENT and -STABLE):
 
  -- It may be necessary to downgrade the toolchain (e.g. binutils;
  gcc);
  -- It may be necessary to downgrade "script"utils (ie perl).
 
  /caution

 Yes you're correct there will be problems with perl, that's
 why you need a 4.x machine to do the building on and that's also
 why you may need several 'make -k installworld' runs to finally
 get a 'make installworld' to work.



Oooops, I had another problem in mind. I thought of the theoretical
general problem of downgrading a -CURRENT machine in a
"self-consistent" fashion (ie on the same machine). I haven't
done that (so far), so I am not aware of any [other] unwanted
side-effects. AFAIR, a few weeks ago, someone performed such
an operation (in the first week of August or so); I read several
posts about the matter. If somebody has successfully tried such an
operation recently (on a PRE_SMPNG machine), s/he will be able to help
Phillip.

Anyway, your suggestion sounds safer.

Best regards,
Salvo





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sio problems?

2000-10-07 Thread Mike Meyer

I recently got my digital camera back out, and started pulling the old
pictures from it. I noticed something I hadn't ever seen before - silo
overflows from the sio port. At the moment, I'm wondering if this is a
known problem that is being investigated (SMPNG comes to mind), or
something new.

Thanx,
mike


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latest ahc panic, more data ...

2000-10-07 Thread Marc G. Fournier


okay, have been watching the conversation going on in the committers list,
and am watching for any new commits that seem appropriate, but figure
adding a little bit of extra info as I come up with it might help?

latest reboot had a bit more info then the last, and started with:

ahc0:A:1: ahc_intr - referenced scb not valid during seqint 0x73 scb(147)
ach0: WARNING no command for scb 147 (cmdcmplt)
QOUTPOS=132

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Re: latest ahc panic, more data ...

2000-10-07 Thread Bosko Milekic


  I've just been hit by one such problem on bootup. This is -current as of
  today, so I suspect it's the commits that went in the past two days.

  Basically, I tracked it down just enough to know that the problem is
  happening during a call to ahc_print_path() in aic7xxx.c, specifically
  for me, this happens during bootup in ahc_handle_scsiint() right after
  the second call to ahc_abort_scbs().

  ahc_print_path() is called like this:

ahc_print_path(ahc, scb);

(why both ahc and scb are being passed, I have no idea, since
ahc_print_path only actually makes use of scb).

  For the unaware, ahc_print_path() seems to only wrap a call to
  xpt_print_path() to which it passes scb-io_ctx-ccb_h.path as an
  argument, and in this case, scb-io_ctx happens to be NULL, so during its
  pass, a NULL pointer gets dereferenced and the page fault happens.

  The NULLing out of this is coming somewhere in ahc_handle_scsiint(),
  because some prior ahc_print_path()s (with the same arguments) are
  succeeding.

  I have not tried backing out the changes from the past two days and
  trying again, but this was not happening a week ago.

  So what's going on here?

On Sat, 7 Oct 2000, Marc G. Fournier wrote:

 
 okay, have been watching the conversation going on in the committers list,
 and am watching for any new commits that seem appropriate, but figure
 adding a little bit of extra info as I come up with it might help?
 
 latest reboot had a bit more info then the last, and started with:
 
 ahc0:A:1: ahc_intr - referenced scb not valid during seqint 0x73 scb(147)
 ach0: WARNING no command for scb 147 (cmdcmplt)
 QOUTPOS=132
 
 Marc G. Fournier   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Systems Administrator @ hub.org
 scrappy@{postgresql|isc}.org   ICQ#7615664



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Re: latest ahc panic, more data ...

2000-10-07 Thread Marc G. Fournier


there is a thread going on in committers that appears to revolve aroudn
this issue, and Justin has been throwing out patches, so it is being
worked on "fast and furious" ... I'm currently up in Windows (Dual-Boot
machine fo rmy little girl) watching for a physical commit to the
repository that at least suggestions its a fix before rebooting and
upgrading :)


On Sat, 7 Oct 2000, Bosko Milekic wrote:

 
   I've just been hit by one such problem on bootup. This is -current as of
   today, so I suspect it's the commits that went in the past two days.
 
   Basically, I tracked it down just enough to know that the problem is
   happening during a call to ahc_print_path() in aic7xxx.c, specifically
   for me, this happens during bootup in ahc_handle_scsiint() right after
   the second call to ahc_abort_scbs().
 
   ahc_print_path() is called like this:
 
   ahc_print_path(ahc, scb);
 
   (why both ahc and scb are being passed, I have no idea, since
   ahc_print_path only actually makes use of scb).
 
   For the unaware, ahc_print_path() seems to only wrap a call to
   xpt_print_path() to which it passes scb-io_ctx-ccb_h.path as an
   argument, and in this case, scb-io_ctx happens to be NULL, so during its
   pass, a NULL pointer gets dereferenced and the page fault happens.
 
   The NULLing out of this is coming somewhere in ahc_handle_scsiint(),
   because some prior ahc_print_path()s (with the same arguments) are
   succeeding.
 
   I have not tried backing out the changes from the past two days and
   trying again, but this was not happening a week ago.
 
   So what's going on here?
 
 On Sat, 7 Oct 2000, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
 
  
  okay, have been watching the conversation going on in the committers list,
  and am watching for any new commits that seem appropriate, but figure
  adding a little bit of extra info as I come up with it might help?
  
  latest reboot had a bit more info then the last, and started with:
  
  ahc0:A:1: ahc_intr - referenced scb not valid during seqint 0x73 scb(147)
  ach0: WARNING no command for scb 147 (cmdcmplt)
  QOUTPOS=132
  
  Marc G. Fournier   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Systems Administrator @ hub.org
  scrappy@{postgresql|isc}.org   ICQ#7615664
 
 
 
   Bosko Milekic
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Re: cvs servers load

2000-10-07 Thread Wes Peters

Wilko Bulte wrote:
 
 On Sat, Oct 07, 2000 at 11:56:07AM -0700, David O'Brien wrote:
  On Sat, Oct 07, 2000 at 10:19:32AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   of the time.  Given where you live, you might want to try cvsup7,
 
  Hey!  That's the one I use -- don't tell anyone about it.  :-)))
 
  Where is cvsup8?  I get the fastest ping times to it.  A traceroute
  implies it is also in Seatle, WA.
 
 Time to put the cvsup servers on the map with ICBM coordinates maybe?

. o O  I feel another Xearth markers file coming.  ftp servers, cvsup
servers, www servers, etc?

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Re: cvs servers load

2000-10-07 Thread Bill Fumerola

On Sat, Oct 07, 2000 at 11:59:41PM -0600, Wes Peters wrote:

 . o O  I feel another Xearth markers file coming.  ftp servers, cvsup
 servers, www servers, etc?

-rw-r--r--  1 billf  ncvs  2398 May  7 15:23 
/usr/ports/astro/xearth/files/freebsd.ftp.markers


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