Re: HEADS UP: cvs commit: src/sys/conf kern.pre.mk (fwd)

2002-02-26 Thread Terry Lambert
M. Warner Losh wrote: I've fixed a few of the low hanging fruit, but I don't know how to get rid of warnings like: const char *foo = blah; char *baz = foo; when I know they are safe. Un-const foo. The compiler assumes strings are const unless you go out of your way to do

Re: Deprecated bfd_read warnings in the gdb(1)

2002-02-26 Thread Maxim Sobolev
Mark Peek wrote: At 9:34 AM -0800 2/25/02, David O'Brien wrote: On Mon, Feb 25, 2002 at 11:51:54AM +0200, Maxim Sobolev wrote: I've noticed that after a recent make world gdb started producing warnings during startup. Please fix. Please send patch. This will require gdb to be

Re: Patch for critical_enter()/critical_exit() interrupt assemblyrevamp, please review!

2002-02-26 Thread Terry Lambert
Matthew Dillon wrote: As it is, I have invested a great deal of time and effort on this patch and it is damn well going to go in so I can move on. Too bad you don't have your own P4 branch... then this would not hold you up. (ducks) ;^) -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to

Re: HEADS UP: cvs commit: src/sys/conf kern.pre.mk (fwd)

2002-02-26 Thread Georg-W Koltermann
Hi Warner, a simple cast char *baz = (char*)foo; works for me. -- Regards, Georg. At Mon, 25 Feb 2002 21:59:23 -0700 (MST), M. Warner Losh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peter Wemm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : There are a couple of offending files in

Re: ACPI timecounter help needed!

2002-02-26 Thread Yann Berthier
On Mon, 25 Feb 2002, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: Machines with ACPI timecounters will now print 10 lines at boot when the timer is tested. If you are lucky you will see ten times something like: ACPI timer looks GOOD min = 3, max = 3, width = 1 That means that you have well

Re: ACPI timecounter help needed!

2002-02-26 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Yann Berthier writes: FYI, the increase from 15 to 31 in acpi_timer.c was needed for me to have my kernel boot with acpi loaded (ie no hang during boot). Thanks, this was the kind of info I needed! Anyway, my system died after 2 hours or so of use, after

NetBSD-style rc.d Project

2002-02-26 Thread Crist J. Clark
Looking at the repository, I have not really seen anything done with building a NetBSD-style rc.d system that will provide FreeBSD functionality for a long time. In fact, I can find very little aside from the initial import. I also noticed there was no mention in the last Monthly Report. Did any

Re: FreeBSD/i386 make release breakage

2002-02-26 Thread murray
On Tue, Feb 26, 2002 at 06:39:22PM +0900, Makoto Matsushita wrote: Note that new dhclient requires some libraries which are *not* installed to /usr/lib (libdhcp, libres, libomapi, and libdst). Installing them to /usr/lib wouldn't help for the crunched case anyway. I have tried a quick hack

this morning's kernel hangs

2002-02-26 Thread Michael D. Harnois
I cvsuped and built world and kernel this morning, and the kernel hangs at atkbd0: AT Keyboard flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0. -- Michael D. Harnois bilocational bivocational Pastor, Redeemer Lutheran ChurchWashburn, Iowa 1L, UST School of Law

Re: HEADS UP: cvs commit: src/sys/conf kern.pre.mk (fwd)

2002-02-26 Thread Peter Dufault
On Mon, Feb 25, 2002 at 11:35:12PM -0700, M. Warner Losh wrote: In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike Makonnen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : On Mon, 2002-02-25 at 20:59, M. Warner Losh wrote: : I've fixed a few of the low hanging fruit, but I don't know how to get : rid of warnings

Re: NetBSD-style rc.d Project

2002-02-26 Thread Kevin Way
As one of the many people who've done some initial work on the port, I can tell you that it seems to me that there's not a lot of interest in this project, beyond criticizing the work of those who've made attempts to do any work, or attempting to expand the scope of the project requirements

Re: FreeBSD/i386 make release breakage

2002-02-26 Thread Makoto Matsushita
murray I'm currently looking into #2 and #3, as well as working with Ted murray Lemon from the ISC to fix some symbol pollution that this whole mess murray has exposed. Any other ideas? Currently nothing, it seems that #3 (or its variant) is better IMHO. -- - Makoto `MAR' Matsushita To

Re: Patch for critical_enter()/critical_exit() interrupt assem

2002-02-26 Thread John Baldwin
On 26-Feb-02 Matthew Dillon wrote: :1) I had an ugly panic testing it on the alpha. After a good deal of :sleuthing, : I've determined that we still have some preemption related bugs in : possibly : the alpha pmap, but that td_ucred isn't the problem. :2) I've been thinking about the

Re: Patch for critical_enter()/critical_exit() interrupt assem

2002-02-26 Thread John Baldwin
On 26-Feb-02 Bruce Evans wrote: On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, John Baldwin wrote: The critical section stuff currently in current is part of the original preemption patches I wrote at Usenix last year. They aren't in the tree because they aren't stable yet. We still have problems on the alpha and

Re: NetBSD-style rc.d Project

2002-02-26 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Tue, 26 Feb 2002 10:00:52 EST, Kevin Way wrote: At this point, I'm very willing to help anybody who is doing the main development, with either coding or testing, but I have no interest being a lead developer on the project. Have you been in contact with Gordon Tetlow to see how he's

Re: FreeBSD/i386 make release breakage

2002-02-26 Thread Murray Stokely
On Wed, Feb 27, 2002 at 12:19:01AM +0900, Makoto Matsushita wrote: murray I'm currently looking into #2 and #3, as well as working with Ted murray Lemon from the ISC to fix some symbol pollution that this whole mess murray has exposed. Any other ideas? Currently nothing, it seems that #3

calcru: negative time of XXX

2002-02-26 Thread Frode Nordahl
Hey, I've had the microuptime problem some time, and I have somewhat followed the discussion about this on -current. It seems like the patch committed removed the messages, but they are now replaced by messages like: Feb 24 17:28:26 gandalf kernel: calcru: negative time of -680109 usec for pid

Re: calcru: negative time of XXX

2002-02-26 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
please send me /var/run/dmesg.boot from a boot -v on a current kernel and output from sysctl kern.timecounter please ? In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Frode Nordahl writ es: Hey, I've had the microuptime problem some time, and I have somewhat followed the discussion about this on -current. It

Re: Patch for critical_enter()/critical_exit() interrupt assem

2002-02-26 Thread Matthew Dillon
:.. : cpu_critical_enter() to a null version to prevent spinlocks masking : interrupts doesn't work very well because it is used for other things : that really do need to mask interrupts. Having 2 levels for : cpu_critical_enter() (on that masks normal interrupts and one that : masks fast

Re: HEADS UP: cvs commit: src/sys/conf kern.pre.mk (fwd)

2002-02-26 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Mon, 25 Feb 2002 23:35:12 -0700 (MST), M. Warner Losh [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: volatile int conspeed; int *foo = conspeed; The answer to this is Not all warnings are indicative of errors. It is unreasonable to expect all warnings to be removed, since the compiler has insufficient

Re: NetBSD-style rc.d Project

2002-02-26 Thread Gregory Neil Shapiro
Should committers be updating those files when they update /etc/rc? If so, I'll need to change the sendmail startup routines. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message

Re: Are there periodic GOOD tags in CVS for -CURRENT?

2002-02-26 Thread Thierry Herbelot
Hello, What I've done this WE was updating a very recent -Stable box to -Current (as described in UPDATING): this sems mostly not risky : as long as the make buildworld + make buildkernel does not succeed, you keep your valid -Stable machine. this is for the upgrade to a -Current. Afterwards,

Re: ddb panics ( getdiskbyname() issue)

2002-02-26 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message 67E0BE167008D31185F60008C7289DA0E1313F@MCHH218E, Reifenberger Mich ael EXT writes: Hi, while searching the cause why set vfs.root.mountfrom=cd9660:acd0c fails I found that when I do a show disk/ad0 (when /dev/ad0* exists) causes a panic: ( repeated make_dev(ad0)...) while show

Re: HEADS UP: cvs commit: src/sys/conf kern.pre.mk (fwd)

2002-02-26 Thread Bruce Evans
On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Garrett Wollman wrote: On Mon, 25 Feb 2002 23:35:12 -0700 (MST), M. Warner Losh [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: volatile int conspeed; int *foo = conspeed; The answer to this is Not all warnings are indicative of errors. It is unreasonable to expect all warnings to

Re: this morning's kernel hangs

2002-02-26 Thread Michael Nottebrock
David Wolfskill wrote: From: Michael D. Harnois [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 26 Feb 2002 08:38:22 -0600 I cvsuped and built world and kernel this morning, and the kernel hangs at atkbd0: AT Keyboard flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0. I didn't see that problem. Indeed, my (desktop) build machine built

Re: libc_r patches and some questions

2002-02-26 Thread Daniel Eischen
On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Martin Blapp wrote: Hi all, I've recieved patches from Carlos Fernando Assis Paniago [EMAIL PROTECTED] to get Openoffice Build 641 running. Since I'm not familiar, I hope someone else can look at them and point me to the right direction to have a working OpenOffice

you broke current in some weird way...

2002-02-26 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
My machine panics somewhere inside the BIOS after your commit today. Tree checked out 2002/02/25 15:45:52 PST boots fine, one from 2002/02/25 16:05:52 PST tanks like this: ata: ata0 already exists; skipping it ata: ata1 already exists; skipping it pcm: pcm0 already exists; skipping it sc: sc0

Re: Patch for critical_enter()/critical_exit() interrupt assem

2002-02-26 Thread Julian Elischer
On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, John Baldwin wrote: My suggestion will be to back it out. I would rather not have to make said suggestion. Can you please try to fit this into the existing framework rather than ripping it all up? We need to finalize and test the design before we hardcode too many

Are there periodic GOOD tags in CVS for -CURRENT?

2002-02-26 Thread George V. Neville-Neil
Hi Folks, I'm wondering if anyone has been laying down periodic good tags in -CURRENT so that people who are just starting with it have a place to start that is reasonably stable. Yes, I know about -STABLE but that's not what I mean. Thanks, George -- George V. Neville-Neil

Re: Are there periodic GOOD tags in CVS for -CURRENT?

2002-02-26 Thread Michael Lucas
These do exist, but are very rare. IIRC, the last such tag was pre-SMPNG. Something like that would be lovely, mind you. On Tue, Feb 26, 2002 at 09:24:30AM -0800, George V. Neville-Neil wrote: Hi Folks, I'm wondering if anyone has been laying down periodic good tags in -CURRENT so

Re: Are there periodic GOOD tags in CVS for -CURRENT?

2002-02-26 Thread Alexander Leidinger
On 26 Feb, George V. Neville-Neil wrote: These do exist, but are very rare. Oh well, I'm trying to use date specs in CVS instead. 200202191650 (cvsup from a german mirror) works for me. Bye, Alexander. -- Failure is not an option. It comes bundled with your Microsoft product.

Re: Are there periodic GOOD tags in CVS for -CURRENT?

2002-02-26 Thread Robert Watson
Hmm. Well, part of the goal of the upcoming development snapshots is to provide that. On the other hand, I think the reason there has been less focus on that of late is that -CURRENT is actually quite stable, leaving aside a few tiny windows (for example, when I broke booting due to messing up a

Known good date for -current

2002-02-26 Thread Alexander Leidinger
Ooops... my previous answer (sorry, I was too fast with the delete key, so no real reply) was from a wrong source tree (a RELENG_4_5 one, good by definition), my known good -current world is from 200202251130 (german mirror). Sorry, Alexander. -- ...and that is how we know the Earth to

Re: Are there periodic GOOD tags in CVS for -CURRENT?

2002-02-26 Thread Julian Elischer
I was suggesting this at the kernel meeting To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message

Re: libc_r patches and some questions

2002-02-26 Thread Martin Blapp
Hi Alfred, if (errno != 0) { if (dp == NULL) The above patch should be committed. Can you please commit it and I'll close PR misc/30631 after it has been MFC'd, ok ? Martin To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of

Re: calcru: negative time of XXX

2002-02-26 Thread Frode Nordahl
On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: please send me /var/run/dmesg.boot from a boot -v on a current kernel and output from sysctl kern.timecounter please ? $ sysctl kern.timecounter kern.timecounter.nmicrotime: 3838 kern.timecounter.nnanotime: 3 kern.timecounter.nmicrouptime: 1

Re: calcru: negative time of XXX

2002-02-26 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #1: Sun Feb 24 22:06:53 CET 2002 This is not a -current kernel when we talk about ACPI timecounters, you want a kernel with this commit in it: phk 2002/02/25 01:51:18 PST Modified files: sys/dev/acpica acpi_timer.c Log: Add a new test_counter()

Why is xe building while commented out?

2002-02-26 Thread Stephen L. Palmer
Kernel build on a fresh (26 Feb 2002 - ~15:00 CDT) -current is failing with an *** Error code 2 in the xe module. This module is commented out of my config. Why would 'make -j4 buildkernel KERNCONF=MIDEARTH' try to build a driver for a pccard I've commented out of the config? I don't have any

Re: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/i386 exception.s genassym.c machdep.c mp_machdep.c mpapic.c swtch.s vm_machdep.c src/sys/i386/include cpufunc.h pcb.h src/sys/i386/isa apic_vector.s clock.c icu_vector.s intr_machdep.c intr_machdep.h npx.c src/sys/kern ...

2002-02-26 Thread Warner Losh
[[ moved to current ]] In message Pine.BSF.4.21.0202261326390.98715-10@beppo Matthew Jacob writes: : I would also like to have core take a stand that having code in P4 isn NOT : the same as publishing it. P4 is an aid to the developer to do PRIVATE : work. As long as the work is in P4 it

Re: Why is xe building while commented out?

2002-02-26 Thread Chris Faulhaber
On Tue, Feb 26, 2002 at 03:28:19PM -0600, Stephen L. Palmer wrote: Kernel build on a fresh (26 Feb 2002 - ~15:00 CDT) -current is failing with an *** Error code 2 in the xe module. This module is commented out of my config. Why would 'make -j4 buildkernel KERNCONF=MIDEARTH' try to build a

Discussion of guidelines for additional version control mechanisms (fwd)

2002-02-26 Thread Robert Watson
Apparently a number of people missed this post, so I'm resending. To recap: this is an attempt to brainstorm for ideas about how we can improve our use of version control, while responding to concerns about access the resulting work. The goal is to formulate a set of guidelines based on

Re: Why is xe building while commented out?

2002-02-26 Thread Stephen L. Palmer
You know, I've been building -currents off and on since 3.0-current, and never realized that. I guess since I usualy start a build and either background it, or walk away... I'll play with the MODULES_OVERRIDE option, and thanks for the pointer. I gave it another run with out the -j4 option,

Re: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/i386 exception.s genassym.c machdep.cmp_machdep.c mpapic.c swtch.s vm_machdep.c src/sys/i386/include cpufunc.hpcb.h src/sys/i386/isa apic_vector.s clock.c icu_vector.s intr_machdep.cintr_machdep.h npx.c src/sys/kern ...

2002-02-26 Thread Matthew Jacob
How is it different than publishing patches on a web site? There are a number of tools that one needs to have to get the patches, just like in P4. The P4 repo is available from cvsup10, so you don't even need to install P4 to see the patches. Because it encourages (and has encouraged) a

Re: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/i386 exception.s genassym.c machdep.c mp_machdep.c mpapic.c swtch.s vm_machdep.c src/sys/i386/include cpufunc.h pcb.h src/sys/i386/isa apic_vector.s clock.c icu_vector.s intr_machdep.c intr_machdep.h npx.c src/sys/kern ...

2002-02-26 Thread David O'Brien
On Tue, Feb 26, 2002 at 02:43:02PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: : the same as publishing it. P4 is an aid to the developer to do PRIVATE : work. As long as the work is in P4 it is up to the developer to : keep it in sync with -current. From the project's perspective : work in P4 doesn't

Re: FreeBSD/i386 make release breakage

2002-02-26 Thread David O'Brien
On Tue, Feb 26, 2002 at 06:39:22PM +0900, Makoto Matsushita wrote: Note that new dhclient requires some libraries which are *not* installed to /usr/lib (libdhcp, libres, libomapi, and libdst). They are built and linked statically. This is not possible with crunch_gen? To Unsubscribe: send

Re: FreeBSD/i386 make release breakage

2002-02-26 Thread David O'Brien
On Tue, Feb 26, 2002 at 05:30:50AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2. Use the existing boot_crunch.conf, but move sbin/dhclient/* back to a single top-level Makefile. This does not work at the moment, because the objects in each subdirectory are built with different

Today's panic on boot problem

2002-02-26 Thread Mike Silbersack
I'm experiencing the same double panic on boot that PHK is now; are we the only ones, or is it just that nobody else has updated recently? Mike Silby Silbersack To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message

Re: HEADS UP: cvs commit: src/sys/conf kern.pre.mk (fwd)

2002-02-26 Thread Peter Wemm
Peter Dufault wrote: On Mon, Feb 25, 2002 at 11:35:12PM -0700, M. Warner Losh wrote: In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike Makonnen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : On Mon, 2002-02-25 at 20:59, M. Warner Losh wrote: : I've fixed a few of the low hanging fruit, but I don't know how

Re: Today's panic on boot problem

2002-02-26 Thread Peter Wemm
Mike Silbersack wrote: I'm experiencing the same double panic on boot that PHK is now; are we the only ones, or is it just that nobody else has updated recently? If you are not using acpica, then you're probably using vm86 for pcibios calls. I've been told that I've broken bios.c.. You may

Re: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/i386 exception.s genassym.c machdep.c mp_machdep.c mpapic.c swtch.s vm_machdep.c src/sys/i386/include cpufunc.h pcb.h src/sys/i386/isa apic_vector.s clock.c icu_vector.s intr_machdep.c intr_machdep.h npx.c src/sys/kern ...

2002-02-26 Thread Peter Wemm
Julian Elischer wrote: On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Warner Losh wrote: Our CVS meisters have told us in the past that branches on the CVS tree are bad, and NetBSD's experience is that not more than one or two are sustainable in the long run. UMM they are not supposed to be there for THAT

RE: Today's panic on boot problem

2002-02-26 Thread Riccardo Torrini
On 26-Feb-2002 (17:27:19/GMT) Mike Silbersack wrote: I'm experiencing the same double panic on boot that PHK is now; are we the only ones, or is it just that nobody else has updated recently? Mee too, just survied to 4 auto-reboot without messages... Trying with a boot -v I see a keyboard

Re: NetBSD-style rc.d Project

2002-02-26 Thread Robert Watson
On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Kevin Way wrote: As one of the many people who've done some initial work on the port, I can tell you that it seems to me that there's not a lot of interest in this project, beyond criticizing the work of those who've made attempts to do any work, or attempting to expand

Re: Today's panic on boot problem

2002-02-26 Thread Mike Silbersack
On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Peter Wemm wrote: Mike Silbersack wrote: I'm experiencing the same double panic on boot that PHK is now; are we the only ones, or is it just that nobody else has updated recently? If you are not using acpica, then you're probably using vm86 for pcibios calls. I've

Re: Today's panic on boot problem

2002-02-26 Thread Michael D. Harnois
On Tue, 2002-02-26 at 17:38, Peter Wemm wrote: You may like to try reverting this change: A great idea, but unfortunately, incorrect ... -- Michael D. Harnois bilocational bivocational Pastor, Redeemer Lutheran ChurchWashburn, Iowa 1L, UST School of Law

Re: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/i386 exception.s genassym.c machdep.cmp_machdep.c mpapic.c swtch.s vm_machdep.c src/sys/i386/include cpufunc.hpcb.h src/sys/i386/isa apic_vector.s clock.c icu_vector.s intr_machdep.cintr_machdep.h npx.c src/sys/kern ...

2002-02-26 Thread Andrew Gallatin
Matthew Jacob writes: How is it different than publishing patches on a web site? There are a number of tools that one needs to have to get the patches, just like in P4. The P4 repo is available from cvsup10, so you don't even need to install P4 to see the patches. Because

Re: -current hangs with SMP enabled

2002-02-26 Thread Andrew Gallatin
Kenneth D. Merry writes: Wow, I didn't actually expect my config would make things work differenty on your box. I'm very interested in whatever you turn up. The answer is...the USB code. [ Nick and Joe CCed ] If I comment out the following lines in my

Re: Today's panic on boot problem

2002-02-26 Thread Mike Silbersack
On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Mike Silbersack wrote: I reverted that change, and the double panic still occured. :| FWIW, you're correct in that I'm not using the acpi module. Mike Silby Silbersack Using ACPI doesn't help here either. Hmph. Can I get a kernel dump that early in the boot

Re: Discussion of guidelines for additional version controlmechanisms (fwd)

2002-02-26 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 4:53 PM -0500 2/26/02, Robert Watson wrote: The purpose of this message is to initiate a serious discussion of what guidelines might be put in place to help facilitate the use of additional version control mechanisms [...]. I've mixed in some suggested things to think about as possible

Re: Today's panic on boot problem

2002-02-26 Thread Mike Silbersack
On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, David Wolfskill wrote: Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 19:46:59 + (GMT) From: Mike Silbersack [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using ACPI doesn't help here either. Hmph. Can I get a kernel dump that early in the boot process? The dumpon manpage doesn't suggest a way as far as I can

Re: Discussion of guidelines for additional version control mechanisms (fwd)

2002-02-26 Thread Robert Watson
On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Garance A Drosihn wrote: I think the main issue here is how long the real repository can be locked while waiting for some change to show up. If work can keep going into the main repository, then what does anyone care if someone is tracking their own personal work using

Re: NetBSD-style rc.d Project

2002-02-26 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Tue, Feb 26, 2002 at 10:00:52AM -0500, Kevin Way wrote: I, for one, lost interest in doing the work when I realized I was receiving, quite literally, 5 times more complaints than combined patches, constructive criticism or positive feedback. Well, for what it's worth I didn't say anything

Re: Discussion of guidelines for additional version control mechanisms (fwd)

2002-02-26 Thread David Greenman
In the past week, a number of comments have been made both for and against additional version control mechanisms being used to supplement the FreeBSD Project official CVS server. Proponents of additional mechanisms, such as It's my view that work that happens outside of our official CVS repo

panic: bad pte

2002-02-26 Thread jgranden
I got the following panic while building X with today's current: TPTE at 0xbfc201a0 IS ZERO @ VA 08068000 panic: bad pte db trace Debugger(x029a31b) at Debugger+0x40 panic(c02b617f,c02b6160,bfc201a0,8068000,d909fa00) at panic+0x70 pmap_remove_pages(d909fa6c,0,bfc0,d8e3bd20,d8d81e00) at

Re: Discussion of guidelines for additional version control mechanisms(fwd)

2002-02-26 Thread Julian Elischer
On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Robert Watson wrote: On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Garance A Drosihn wrote: On the other hand, you could easily argue that the expectations might be much lower for smaller pieces of work. For example, the move to td_ucred required a substantial amount of infrastructure,

Re: Discussion of guidelines for additional version control mechanisms (fwd)

2002-02-26 Thread Peter Wemm
David Greenman wrote: In the past week, a number of comments have been made both for and against additional version control mechanisms being used to supplement the FreeBSD Project official CVS server. Proponents of additional mechanisms, such as It's my view that work that happens

Re: panic: bad pte

2002-02-26 Thread Peter Wemm
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got the following panic while building X with today's current: TPTE at 0xbfc201a0 IS ZERO @ VA 08068000 panic: bad pte I've had this about an hour ago too. I'm looking at it right now.. Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL

Re: Discussion of guidelines for additional version control mechanisms (fwd)

2002-02-26 Thread Robert Watson
On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Julian Elischer wrote: On the other hand, you could easily argue that the expectations might be much lower for smaller pieces of work. For example, the move to td_ucred required a substantial amount of infrastructure, but the patches themselves are relatively sane

Re: Today's panic on boot problem

2002-02-26 Thread Peter Wemm
Mike Silbersack wrote: On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, David Wolfskill wrote: Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 19:46:59 + (GMT) From: Mike Silbersack [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using ACPI doesn't help here either. Hmph. Can I get a kernel dump that early in the boot process? The dumpon manpage doesn't

Broken (?) unistd.h

2002-02-26 Thread Doug Barton
The following: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/include/unistd.h.diff?r1=1.46r2=1.47 Broke compilation of bind 8 on -current built 2/24: mkdir threaded 2 /dev/null || test -d threaded -a -w threaded (cc -I../../port/freebsd/include -I../../include -g -Wall -c getgrent.c -o

Re: Discussion of guidelines for additional version control mechanisms (fwd)

2002-02-26 Thread David Greenman
Anyway, my point is that the Perforce repo itself isn't the problem. The problem is that people are maintaining private patch sets for long periods and making claims to the areas that their patches cover. Step-wise evolution is the only way to go in this distributed development model and

Re: Discussion of guidelines for additional version controlmechanisms (fwd)

2002-02-26 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 6:55 PM -0800 2/26/02, Julian Elischer wrote: (1) The timeout begins when contention occurs, of the lock has been declared. This means that if you seriously intend to do some work, you can say I'm going to do the work, but you don't risk losing the lock until someone

Re: Discussion of guidelines for additional version control mechanisms (fwd)

2002-02-26 Thread David Greenman
Some things are too impractically large to do incrementally and are an all-or-nothing thing. I recall seeing your early VM commits which were huge, you had been working on for months, and were not incremental things. Actually, most VM system work that was done was developed over a period of

Re: NetBSD-style rc.d Project

2002-02-26 Thread Sean Chittenden
I spent some time in the fall learning the NetBSD system (unfortunately I'm not running any NetBSD boxes at the moment or this would probably be a _lot_ easier), but have not really done any work. I thought some people were working on it, but not in the tree. I did not want to duplicate or

Re: Discussion of guidelines for additional version control mechanisms (fwd)

2002-02-26 Thread Robert Watson
On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Garance A Drosihn wrote: That would be me... I meant lock in the sense of expecting no one to make any major changes in the same area of code. I seem to remember you asking for such a lock (to use the term loosely) in July, and the KSE work going in around August or

Re: Discussion of guidelines for additional version controlmechanisms (fwd)

2002-02-26 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: p05101401b8a1ee73f02d@[128.113.24.47] Garance A Drosihn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : I think the main issue here is how long the real repository can be : locked while waiting for some change to show up. If work can : keep going into the main repository, then what does

Re: Discussion of guidelines for additional version control

2002-02-26 Thread Julian Elischer
mechanisms (fwd) In-Reply-To: p05101402b8a1ffde0552@[128.113.24.47] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Garance A Drosihn wrote: At 6:55 PM -0800 2/26/02, Julian Elischer wrote: (1) The timeout begins when

Re: Discussion of guidelines for additional version control mechanisms(fwd)

2002-02-26 Thread Julian Elischer
On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Robert Watson wrote: On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Julian Elischer wrote: On the other hand, you could easily argue that the expectations might be much lower for smaller pieces of work. For example, the move to td_ucred required a substantial amount of

Re: Broken (?) unistd.h

2002-02-26 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Doug Barton [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020226 19:12] wrote: The following: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/include/unistd.h.diff?r1=1.46r2=1.47 Broke compilation of bind 8 on -current built 2/24: mkdir threaded 2 /dev/null || test -d threaded -a -w threaded (cc

Re: Today's panic on boot problem

2002-02-26 Thread Mike Silbersack
On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Peter Wemm wrote: Mike Silbersack wrote: Hm, sounds like UP got optimized out. Gah! That would be a first. :( Well, until I can build a working kernel, I'll just assume that it's a feature. Mike Silby Silbersack To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Discussion of guidelines for additional version controlmechanisms (fwd)

2002-02-26 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Robert Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : I meant lock in the sense of expecting no one to make any major : changes in the same area of code. I seem to remember you asking for : such a lock (to use the term loosely) in July, and the KSE work going :

Re: Discussion of guidelines for additional version control

2002-02-26 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 7:27 PM -0800 2/26/02, Julian Elischer wrote: On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Garance A Drosihn wrote: That would be me... I meant lock in the sense of expecting no one to make any major changes in the same area of code. I seem to remember you asking for such a lock (to use the term

Re: NetBSD-style rc.d Project

2002-02-26 Thread David O'Brien
On Tue, Feb 26, 2002 at 10:00:52AM -0500, Kevin Way wrote: As one of the many people who've done some initial work on the port, I can tell you that it seems to me that there's not a lot of interest in this project, beyond criticizing the work of those who've made attempts to do any work, or

Re: NetBSD-style rc.d Project

2002-02-26 Thread David O'Brien
On Tue, Feb 26, 2002 at 10:17:49AM -0800, Gregory Neil Shapiro wrote: Should committers be updating those files when they update /etc/rc? If so, I'll need to change the sendmail startup routines. No. That will pull them off the vendor branch before we are ready for that. To Unsubscribe:

Re: NetBSD-style rc.d Project

2002-02-26 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 6:48 PM -0800 2/26/02, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Tue, Feb 26, 2002 at 10:00:52AM -0500, Kevin Way wrote: I, for one, lost interest in doing the work when I realized I was receiving, quite literally, 5 times more complaints than combined patches, constructive criticism or positive

Re: Broken (?) unistd.h

2002-02-26 Thread Bill Fenner
Here's a patch for bind's port/freebsd/include/port_before.h . --- port_before.h.orig Tue Feb 26 20:57:35 2002 +++ port_before.h Tue Feb 26 21:02:18 2002 @@ -15,6 +15,7 @@ #define SETPWENT_VOID #endif +#include sys/param.h #include sys/types.h #define GROUP_R_RETURN struct group *

Re: Today's panic on boot problem

2002-02-26 Thread Peter Wemm
Mike Silbersack wrote: On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Peter Wemm wrote: Mike Silbersack wrote: _ Hm, sounds like UP got optimized out. Gah! That would be a first. :( Well, until I can build a working kernel, I'll just assume that it's a feature. FWIW, turning off PG_G see_ms to help.

Re: NetBSD-style rc.d Project

2002-02-26 Thread Kevin Way
* Sean Chittenden [EMAIL PROTECTED] [27-02-02 04:05]: I'm about to dive into doing some work for an rc system for the ports (${PREFIX}/etc/defaults ${PREFIX}/etc/rc.conf) and have an interest in learning about the way they've done things. Does their paradigm completely obsolete the rc.conf

Re: NetBSD-style rc.d Project

2002-02-26 Thread Kevin Way
* David O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] [27-02-02 04:39]: I may have dropped the ball on this. I was waiting for a tarball from you, that you were happy with. You may have told me where to pick one up that I failed to do. Thanks for offering yourself up as an excuse, but the failure to deliver a

Re: NetBSD-style rc.d Project

2002-02-26 Thread Kevin Way
* Sheldon Hearn [EMAIL PROTECTED] [27-02-02 03:58]: At this point, I'm very willing to help anybody who is doing the main development, with either coding or testing, but I have no interest being a lead developer on the project. Have you been in contact with Gordon Tetlow to see how he's

Re: Today's panic on boot problem

2002-02-26 Thread Mike Silbersack
On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Peter Wemm wrote: FWIW, turning off PG_G see_ms to help. Change in pmap.c: #if !defined(SMP) || defined(ENABLE_PG_G) to: #if /*!defined(SMP) ||*/ defined(ENABLE_PG_G) and see how you go. This got me past atkbd0, but it is a very worrying sign. I now get a vnode

Re: Today's panic on boot problem

2002-02-26 Thread Mike Silbersack
On Wed, 27 Feb 2002, Mike Silbersack wrote: Disabling PG_G allows it to work here again as well. Given the problems we're experiencing, backing out the pmap changes of the last two days seems like a good idea. Mike Silby Silbersack Well, I sorta take that back. The box has been up for

setpgrp(1, 1) does not FAIL

2002-02-26 Thread HIROSHI OOTA
Hello, The following will succeed in non privilege user. I think it should fail. main() { printf(%d\n, setpgrp(1, 1)); } -- HIROSHI OOTA [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe

Re: NetBSD-style rc.d Project

2002-02-26 Thread Sean Chittenden
I'm about to dive into doing some work for an rc system for the ports (${PREFIX}/etc/defaults ${PREFIX}/etc/rc.conf) and have an interest in learning about the way they've done things. Does their paradigm completely obsolete the rc.conf concept? Were there any docs/project pages

Re: NetBSD-style rc.d Project

2002-02-26 Thread Gordon Tetlow
On Wed, 27 Feb 2002, Kevin Way wrote: * Sheldon Hearn [EMAIL PROTECTED] [27-02-02 03:58]: At this point, I'm very willing to help anybody who is doing the main development, with either coding or testing, but I have no interest being a lead developer on the project. Have you been

Re: Broken (?) unistd.h

2002-02-26 Thread Bruce Evans
On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Bill Fenner wrote: Here's a patch for bind's port/freebsd/include/port_before.h . --- port_before.h.origTue Feb 26 20:57:35 2002 +++ port_before.h Tue Feb 26 21:02:18 2002 @@ -15,6 +15,7 @@ #define SETPWENT_VOID #endif +#include sys/param.h #include

Re: HEADS UP: cvs commit: src/sys/conf kern.pre.mk (fwd)

2002-02-26 Thread Bruce Evans
On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Peter Wemm wrote: Peter Dufault wrote: When it is too twisty to fix at the moment I use macros such as: #define BOGUSLY_CAST_AWAY_VOLATILITY(T,P) ((T)(unsigned int)(P)) ... volatile int conspeed; int *foo = BOGUSLY_CAST_AWAY_VOLATILITY(int *, conspeed);