Re: HEADS UP: -CURRENT Feature Slush is OVER

2002-03-17 Thread David O'Brien
On Sat, Mar 16, 2002 at 02:08:51PM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote: I hate this whole direction. I think it's an incredibly bad idea that we are not going to be able to reproduce what went onto any given CDROM in ten years. The source will be on the CDROM. Nor is there any major importance to

Re: HEADS UP: -CURRENT Feature Slush is OVER

2002-03-17 Thread Maxim Sobolev
On Sat, 2002-03-16 at 21:53, David O'Brien wrote: On Sat, Mar 16, 2002 at 04:43:47PM +0200, Maxim Sobolev wrote: primary goals in all of this are (1) to provide a usable preview of the 5.0-CURRENT code, and (2) to minimize the impact on -CURRENT developers. After evaluating several

problems with perl

2002-03-17 Thread huntting
The perl upgrade seems to be having problems. I got this twice towday making buildworld from 4.5: thanx, brad [...] cc -O -pipe -I/usr/obj/5.0/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl -I/5.0/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl/../../../../contrib/perl5 -DPERL_EXTERNAL_GLOB -DPERL_CORE

Re: HEADS UP: -CURRENT Feature Slush is OVER

2002-03-17 Thread Murray Stokely
On Sat, Mar 16, 2002 at 02:08:51PM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote: I think it's an incredibly bad idea that we are not going to be able to reproduce what went onto any given CDROM in ten years. I agree that it is very important to be able to reproduce official releases of FreeBSD N years down

Re: ACPI autoload failed -- unable to install

2002-03-17 Thread Michael Smith
Folks, the autoload failed message is just telling you that you have ACPI, but there is no ACPI KLD on the floppy. It has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with your problem. By the sound of it, you've got a corrupted floppy image. -- To announce that there must be no criticism of the

Re: web Browsers (Re: gcc -O broken in CURRENT)

2002-03-17 Thread Greg Black
David O'Brien wrote: | On Sat, Mar 16, 2002 at 06:05:13AM +0100, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: | Garrett Wollman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | What problems do you have with it? | | Slow. Eats memory. Crashes all the time. Does not save state | between sessions. Does not render HTML 4

Re: web Browsers (Re: gcc -O broken in CURRENT)

2002-03-17 Thread Maxim Sobolev
On Sun, 2002-03-17 at 09:56, Greg Black wrote: Joerg Wunsch wrote: | David O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | Slow. Eats memory. Crashes all the time. Does not save state | between sessions. Does not render HTML 4 properly. Does not support | CSS properly. Does not zoom. Does

Re: HEADS UP: -CURRENT Feature Slush is OVER

2002-03-17 Thread Terry Lambert
David O'Brien wrote: On Sat, Mar 16, 2002 at 02:08:51PM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote: I hate this whole direction. I think it's an incredibly bad idea that we are not going to be able to reproduce what went onto any given CDROM in ten years. The source will be on the CDROM. Nor is

Re: web Browsers (Re: gcc -O broken in CURRENT)

2002-03-17 Thread Greg Black
Maxim Sobolev wrote: | On Sun, 2002-03-17 at 09:56, Greg Black wrote: | Yeah right. Galeon wouldn't even build on the last FreeBSD box | I tried it on when somebody told me to try it. | | It compiles/works here like a charm, however, if you do have problems | with it please send a problem

Re: HEADS UP: -CURRENT Feature Slush is OVER

2002-03-17 Thread Terry Lambert
Murray Stokely wrote: On Sat, Mar 16, 2002 at 02:08:51PM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote: I think it's an incredibly bad idea that we are not going to be able to reproduce what went onto any given CDROM in ten years. I agree that it is very important to be able to reproduce official

Re: HEADS UP: -CURRENT Feature Slush is OVER

2002-03-17 Thread Murray Stokely
On Sun, Mar 17, 2002 at 01:08:43AM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote: Minimally, pick a date, and then do a CVS diff against that date, and include it on the CDROM. I would be happy to do this. I checked out a copy of the CVS tree right before we made the Perforce branch so that we could tag it

Re: HEADS UP: -CURRENT Feature Slush is OVER

2002-03-17 Thread Hellmuth Michaelis
From the keyboard of Murray Stokely: tree for previous snapshots. We are actually moving more in the direction you advocate by at least moving the snapshot production into Perforce so that more developers can participate. Not taking into account (good) technical reasons, i am quite a bit

Re: problems with perl

2002-03-17 Thread Mark Murray
The perl upgrade seems to be having problems. I got this twice towday making buildworld from 4.5: Please test the enclosed patch. M -- o Mark Murray \_ O.\_Warning: this .sig is umop ap!sdn Index: config.SH-elf.alpha

Re: HEADS UP: -CURRENT Feature Slush is OVER

2002-03-17 Thread Annelise Anderson
On Sun, 17 Mar 2002, David O'Brien wrote: On Sat, Mar 16, 2002 at 02:08:51PM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote: I hate this whole direction. I think it's an incredibly bad idea that we are not going to be able to reproduce what went onto any given CDROM in ten years. The source will be

Re: HEADS UP: -CURRENT Feature Slush is OVER

2002-03-17 Thread Murray Stokely
On Sun, Mar 17, 2002 at 02:13:16AM -0800, Annelise Anderson wrote: The source will be on the CDROM. Nor is there any major importance to DP1. Are you also upset that you cannot reproduce the July 17th, 1998 -CURRENT snapshot CD from WC? If a tag was laid down can't it be retrieved

Re: strange apm/acpi message on CPQ Armada E700

2002-03-17 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Fri, Mar 15, 2002 at 11:11:45PM +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: Never mind.. this was due to the fact that device.hints had APM disabled. Looks a lot better now: APM version: 1.2 APM Managment: Enabled AC Line status: on-line Battery status: charging Remaining battery life: 62% Remaining battery

Re: web Browsers (Re: gcc -O broken in CURRENT)

2002-03-17 Thread Thomas Hurst
* Greg Black ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Joerg Wunsch wrote: Galeon. Yeah right. Galeon wouldn't even build on the last FreeBSD box I tried it on when somebody told me to try it. Tried Skipstone? Gecko based GTK browser. -- Thomas 'Freaky' Hurst - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -

Re: HEADS UP: -CURRENT Feature Slush is OVER

2002-03-17 Thread David O'Brien
On Sun, Mar 17, 2002 at 02:13:16AM -0800, Annelise Anderson wrote: If a tag was laid down can't it be retrieved indefinitely? A non-branching tag? What am I missing? The tag will create a point in time in the CVS repository that cannot be ever changed. This is a restriction that we've

Re: -current lock warning...

2002-03-17 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Munehiro Matsuda [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020317 06:36] wrote: PS. I got another message that happend when I ^C'ed a buildworld earlier, with same kernel. May be it should go to Alfred Perlstein? lock order reversal 1st 0xc198eec0 pipe mutex @ ../../../kern/sys_pipe.c:779 2nd 0xc0367fe0

Re: HEADS UP: -CURRENT Feature Slush is OVER

2002-03-17 Thread David O'Brien
On Sun, Mar 17, 2002 at 01:08:43AM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote: Imagine that you have the developer's prerelease, and you have a bug (because you're a developer who's using the pre-release). Now say you have become involved in the process, because the pre-release has done it's job. You

Re: HEADS UP: -CURRENT Feature Slush is OVER

2002-03-17 Thread David O'Brien
On Sun, Mar 17, 2002 at 12:56:42AM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote: It seems to me that, at worst, this is being done to prove to the heathens that use of Perforce is a bad idea. It certainly is, if history is going to be lost, but that's not a result of the tool, here, it's a result of

kernel build failure in amr

2002-03-17 Thread Gavin Atkinson
Hi, Without -DNO_WERROR, i sometimes get a build failure on CURRENT sources, as shown below. However, this does not always occur, maybe 30% of the compiles succeed. Why would it sometimes compile fine? I've deleted my /usr/obj and /usr/src, and even my cvs repositry, without success.# Gavin

Re: -current lock warning...

2002-03-17 Thread Robert Watson
On Sun, 17 Mar 2002, Alfred Perlstein wrote: * Munehiro Matsuda [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020317 06:36] wrote: PS. I got another message that happend when I ^C'ed a buildworld earlier, with same kernel. May be it should go to Alfred Perlstein? lock order reversal 1st 0xc198eec0 pipe

Re: -current lock warning...

2002-03-17 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Robert Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020317 09:08] wrote: On Sun, 17 Mar 2002, Alfred Perlstein wrote: * Munehiro Matsuda [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020317 06:36] wrote: PS. I got another message that happend when I ^C'ed a buildworld earlier, with same kernel. May be it should go to

subscribe

2002-03-17 Thread Mike Simpson
subscribe _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message

Re: cvs commit: src/sys/kern kern_mtxpool.c src/sys/sys kernel.hsrc/sys/vm vm_fault.c vm_glue.c vm_map.c vm_map.h vm_pageout.c vm_zone.c

2002-03-17 Thread Matthew Dillon
I have no idea what the frig you guys are doing in vm_map.c. I would recommend that all the changes be backed out. Then I would recommend that the following be done: * change the lockmgr vm_map lock to be exclusive-only * test commit * change the lockmgr

Re: cvs commit: src/sys/kern kern_mtxpool.c src/sys/sys kernel.h src/sys/vm vm_fault.c vm_glue.c vm_map.c vm_map.h vm_pageout.c vm_zone.c

2002-03-17 Thread Hiten Pandya
Hi, Sorry to unwantedly butt in, but the patch supplied by Seigo actually solved the vm_map.c locking problems which used to come up on my system. Just some info. :) Regards, -- Hiten Pandya -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Matthew Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have no idea what the frig

Re: problems with perl

2002-03-17 Thread Brad Huntting
The perl upgrade seems to be having problems. I got this twice towday making buildworld from 4.5: Please test the enclosed patch. That patch allows perl to compile. Unfortunatly, I'm still unable to make a 5.0 kernel from 4.5, so I cant test it. cc -c -O -pipe -Wall -Wredundant-decls

5.0-C KERNEL (Was: Re: problems with perl)

2002-03-17 Thread Mark Murray
cc1: warnings being treated as errors # make NO_WERROR=yes ... M -- o Mark Murray \_ O.\_Warning: this .sig is umop ap!sdn To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message

panic: bwrite: buffer is not busy???

2002-03-17 Thread Kris Kennaway
I tried upgrading the bento cluster to 5.x so I can actually get 5.0 packages built (eaccess problems), and 5 of them blew up in about 10 minutes with this (I think this is going to be an .. uh .. interesting test of the stability of 5.0-CURRENT): IdlePTD at phsyical address 0x004a6000 initial

Re: HEADS UP: -CURRENT Feature Slush is OVER

2002-03-17 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 1:15 AM -0800 3/17/02, Murray Stokely wrote: On Sun, Mar 17, 2002 at 01:08:43AM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote: Minimally, pick a date, and then do a CVS diff against that date, and include it on the CDROM. I would be happy to do this. I checked out a copy of the CVS tree right before we

Re: panic: bwrite: buffer is not busy???

2002-03-17 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sun, Mar 17, 2002 at 12:49:58PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: I tried upgrading the bento cluster to 5.x so I can actually get 5.0 packages built (eaccess problems), and 5 of them blew up in about 10 minutes with this (I think this is going to be an .. uh .. interesting test of the stability

Re: HEADS UP: -CURRENT Feature Slush is OVER

2002-03-17 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 8:35 AM -0800 3/17/02, David O'Brien wrote: My earlier concerns about the use of Perforce were when a developers expected other developers to use Perforce for _shared_ development. Or that tried to claim that their code was published if it was in the Perforce depot on Freefall. Exactly my

Re: -current lock warning...

2002-03-17 Thread Jake Burkholder
Apparently, On Sun, Mar 17, 2002 at 09:17:22AM -0800, Alfred Perlstein said words to the effect of; * Robert Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020317 09:08] wrote: On Sun, 17 Mar 2002, Alfred Perlstein wrote: * Munehiro Matsuda [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020317 06:36] wrote: PS. I

Re: HEADS UP: -CURRENT Feature Slush is OVER

2002-03-17 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message p05101511b8bab342dc49@[128.113.24.47], Garance A Drosihn writes: At 8:35 AM -0800 3/17/02, David O'Brien wrote: My earlier concerns about the use of Perforce were when a developers expected other developers to use Perforce for _shared_ development. Or that tried to claim that their

Re: panic: bwrite: buffer is not busy???

2002-03-17 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sun, Mar 17, 2002 at 12:49:58PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: I tried upgrading the bento cluster to 5.x so I can actually get 5.0 packages built (eaccess problems), and 5 of them blew up in about 10 minutes with this (I think this is going to be an .. uh .. interesting test of the stability

Re: Patch to fix the build of the smbfs.ko kernel module

2002-03-17 Thread Maxime Henrion
Hajimu UMEMOTO wrote: Hi, On Sat, 16 Mar 2002 01:32:04 -0800 Maxime Henrion [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: mux Since the addition of optimized 3DES encryption for x86, the build of the mux smbfs kernel module has been broken (on all platforms). This is because mux new files are now needed

Re: cvs commit: src/sys/kern kern_mtxpool.c src/sys/sys kernel.h src/sys/vm vm_fault.c vm_glue.c vm_map.c vm_map.h vm_pageout.c vm_zone.c

2002-03-17 Thread Matthew Dillon
: :Hi, : :Sorry to unwantedly butt in, but the patch supplied by Seigo actually :solved the vm_map.c locking problems which used to come up on my system. :Just some info. :) : :Regards, : : -- Hiten Pandya : -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] It fixed some things, it broke some things. Pretty much

Re: HEADS UP: -CURRENT Feature Slush is OVER

2002-03-17 Thread Terry Lambert
Garance A Drosihn wrote: At 1:15 AM -0800 3/17/02, Murray Stokely wrote: On Sun, Mar 17, 2002 at 01:08:43AM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote: Minimally, pick a date, and then do a CVS diff against that date, and include it on the CDROM. I would be happy to do this. I checked out a copy

Re: HEADS UP: -CURRENT Feature Slush is OVER

2002-03-17 Thread Robert Watson
On Sun, 17 Mar 2002, Terry Lambert wrote: Garance A Drosihn wrote: At 1:15 AM -0800 3/17/02, Murray Stokely wrote: On Sun, Mar 17, 2002 at 01:08:43AM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote: Minimally, pick a date, and then do a CVS diff against that date, and include it on the CDROM. I

Re: cvs commit: src/sys/kern kern_mtxpool.c src/sys/sys kernel.h src/sys/vm vm_fault.c vm_glue.c vm_map.c vm_map.h vm_pageout.c vm_zone.c

2002-03-17 Thread Robert Watson
On Sun, 17 Mar 2002, Matthew Dillon wrote: It fixed some things, it broke some things. Pretty much standard fare for anyone who has ever done work on the vm_map lock, including yours truely. John Dyson couldn't get it right, David Greenman couldn't get it right, I couldn't

Re: cvs commit: src/sys/kern kern_mtxpool.c src/sys/sys kernel.h src/sys/vm vm_fault.c vm_glue.c vm_map.c vm_map.h vm_pageout.c vm_zone.c

2002-03-17 Thread Matthew Dillon
:Hmm. Ok, so right now the code that has been branched for DP1 makes use :of Brian's recent locking commits. My original thought was we'd simply :back it out of that branch to make sure that the DP is reliable. How hard :would it be for us to switch to what you propose (just convert all slocks

Re: panic: bwrite: buffer is not busy???

2002-03-17 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] up 14 followed by p *m would be nice; making the dump and the debugging kernel available on freefall would be even nicer. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe

Re: Patch to fix the build of the smbfs.ko kernel module

2002-03-17 Thread Hajimu UMEMOTO
Hi, On Sun, 17 Mar 2002 15:38:48 -0800 Maxime Henrion [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: mux Actually, this patch is wrong because it won't ever compile des_enc.S. mux Whatever I do, des_enc.c gets compiled and I can't figure out how to mux compile a .S file with bsd.kmod.mk. If someone with more

zlib breakage(was cvs commit: src/share/man/man4 ng_pptpgre.4)

2002-03-17 Thread Bruce Evans
This bug affects everything that uses libz of course. It also breaks zgrep. Try cd /home/ncvs/C*/*logs; zgrep foo *. On Sun, 17 Mar 2002, Bruce Evans wrote: On Sun, 17 Mar 2002, I wrote: That may be, but ispell is not man's best friend: $ man ispell Segmentation fault (core

Re: panic: bwrite: buffer is not busy???

2002-03-17 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: #14 0xc0204b92 in _mtx_lock_sleep (m=0xc2f91f34, opts=0, file=0x0, line=0) at ../../../kern/kern_mutex.c:370 (kgdb) up 14 #14 0xc0204b92 in _mtx_lock_sleep (m=0xc2f91f34, opts=0, file=0x0, line=0) at ../../../kern/kern_mutex.c:370 370

Re: panic: bwrite: buffer is not busy???

2002-03-17 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Dag-Erling Smorgrav [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020317 19:27] wrote: ...the process has no open files at all, because... (kgdb) p p-p_pid $4 = 10099 (kgdb) p p-p_comm $5 = wc\000oot, '\000' repeats 13 times (kgdb) p p-p_stat $6 = 3 (kgdb) p/x p-p_flag $7 = 0x6000 ...it's exiting, and

Re: panic: bwrite: buffer is not busy???

2002-03-17 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sun, Mar 17, 2002 at 10:17:39PM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: * Dag-Erling Smorgrav [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020317 19:27] wrote: ...the process has no open files at all, because... (kgdb) p p-p_pid $4 = 10099 (kgdb) p p-p_comm $5 = wc\000oot, '\000' repeats 13 times (kgdb) p

utmp and current

2002-03-17 Thread whoever
Hi, I updated to current 5.0 several weeks back and just noticed that the utmp logging for people users logged in is missing. The wtmp is populated very strangely too. None of the ttyv* are logged logging of ttyp* is selective ( on what ? I havent been able to figure it out). All the

Re: panic: bwrite: buffer is not busy???

2002-03-17 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Alfred Perlstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Please let me know if this works for you. [...] + PROC_LOCK(td); *cough* *cough* :) DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message

Re: panic: bwrite: buffer is not busy???

2002-03-17 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Dag-Erling Smorgrav [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020317 22:55] wrote: Alfred Perlstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Please let me know if this works for you. [...] + PROC_LOCK(td); *cough* *cough* :) It was untested. :) I'm sure you can fix it, I've got to get some sleep, let me know if it

World on -stable is busted

2002-03-17 Thread M. Warner Losh
cc -O -pipe -I/usr/obj/home/imp/FreeBSD/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl -I/home/imp/FreeBSD/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl/../../../../contrib/perl5 -DPERL_EXTERNAL_GLOB -DPERL_CORE -DAPPLLIB_EXP=\/usr/libdata/perl/BSDPAN\ -L/usr/obj/home/imp/FreeBSD/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl/../libperl

Bad fix for -current breakage

2002-03-17 Thread M. Warner Losh
Note, a real fix would be applied to all the config.* files, and would depend on the BOOTSTRAP symbol that we define during the early stages of the build. This is my wimpy fix for people that want a quick fix to the problem of building -current on -stable. Now, to the next breakage in the tree