On Wed, 25 Sep 2002 11:12:34 -0700 Brooks Davis
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Does CURRENT support journaled filesystem ?
There are not journaling file systems in current at this time.
Efforts to port both xfs and jfs are underway.
We have something better than those. SoftUpdates. Much
Hi
The attached patch gets done by me any time I set up a FreeBSD
box (I like lots of VTYs and X on ALT-F12).
Any objections to my committing this?
M
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It's not like people didn't have nine years' advance warning to fix
their scripts.
When's the first time the FreeBSD sort(1) man page mentioned that this
syntax was deprecated? Can we at least start from there?
The man page in 4.x notes that -k is an alternative rather than the
Are old-style non-F11, F12 keyboards still working with
FreeBSD?
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Are old-style non-F11, F12 keyboards still working with=20
FreeBSD?
I don't know, but as those are in the vast minority, its perhaps
OK to ask those folks to edit ttys to something more useful to them,
rather than the other way round. :-)
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On Wed, 25 Sep 2002, Mikhail Teterin wrote:
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Attempts to shutdown gracefully result in panic -- negative refcount in
vnrele (vfrele?) in vnclose() called from vnclosefile() -- can not be
more precise without the serial console and another machine.
Same here. cvsup'd this afternoon.
sc
On Thu, Sep 26, 2002 at 10:22:15AM +0100, Mark Murray wrote:
Hi
The attached patch gets done by me any time I set up a FreeBSD
box (I like lots of VTYs and X on ALT-F12).
Any objections to my committing this?
Greedy VTY monster (cf. etc.i386/ttys,v 1.4). :-)
Cheers,
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The VFS panic that was introduced in my recent commits has been fixed. I
accidentally commited extra stuff from my tree that was not entirely
correct.
i just cvs'ed.
i'm getting:
panic: vn_finished_write: neg cnt
danny
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if this is of any help:
panic: vn_finished_write: neg cnt
Debugger(panic)
Stopped at Debugger+0x54: xchgl %ebx,in_Debugger.0
db trace
Debugger(c04b2d1c,c05664e0,c04bcd6b,cb4607d8,1) at Debugger+0x54
panic(c04bcd6b,cb46082c,c0325417,c05298e0,0) at panic+0xab
If you do make this change, make sure it's carefully documented in the
release notes. Otherwise we're going to get a lot of surprised I can no
longer get back to my X server after I switch away from it's.
Robert N M Watson FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Projects
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For the last week or so all I had to do to crash the X server was to
reboot the machine and fire up X with gnome. The first attempt after
a reboot always produced the 'Big Bezier' crash for me.
Starting with last night's cvsup I've not seen any more of those
crashes.
Anyone else notice a
This seems a lot like personal preferance to me, I for one don't like a
lot of tty's, because running getty on a bunch of ttys that I'm not going
to use is a waste of ram I usually keep F1-F3 as ttys, and make F4 run
kdm. I know I don't really have a say, but I'm sure everyone has his or
her
This seems a lot like personal preferance to me, I for one don't like a
lot of tty's, because running getty on a bunch of ttys that I'm not going
to use is a waste of ram I usually keep F1-F3 as ttys, and make F4 run
kdm. I know I don't really have a say, but I'm sure everyone has his or
culverk This seems a lot like personal preferance to me, I for one
culverk don't like a lot of tty's, because running getty on a bunch
culverk of ttys that I'm not going to use is a waste of ram
Seconded. Two ttys are enough for me. Many getty(8) processes usually
waste our process table
On Thu, Sep 26, 2002 at 02:50:20PM +0100, Mark Murray wrote:
This seems a lot like personal preferance to me, I for one don't like a
lot of tty's, because running getty on a bunch of ttys that I'm not going
to use is a waste of ram I usually keep F1-F3 as ttys, and make F4 run
kdm. I
The attached patch gets done by me any time I set up a FreeBSD box (I
like lots of VTYs and X on ALT-F12).
Any objections to my committing this?
I do the opposite, and turn off five vty's to get just three [job
control works for me]. -- IMHO a personal like/dislike shouldn't be a
reason to
Mark Murray writes:
Hi
The attached patch gets done by me any time I set up a FreeBSD
box (I like lots of VTYs and X on ALT-F12).
Any objections to my committing this?
I object.
Most of my machines are headless without video cards and use a serial
console. With devfs this means
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rites:
Mark Murray writes:
Hi
The attached patch gets done by me any time I set up a FreeBSD
box (I like lots of VTYs and X on ALT-F12).
Any objections to my committing this?
I object.
Most of my machines are headless without video
On 26-Sep-2002 Mark Murray wrote:
Hi
The attached patch gets done by me any time I set up a FreeBSD
box (I like lots of VTYs and X on ALT-F12).
Any objections to my committing this?
Yep. I think it's best just to leave things as they are. I pretty
much have Alt-F9 hardcoded into my
On 26-Sep-2002 Mark Murray wrote:
Are old-style non-F11, F12 keyboards still working with=20
FreeBSD?
I don't know, but as those are in the vast minority, its perhaps
OK to ask those folks to edit ttys to something more useful to them,
rather than the other way round. :-)
If you add up
On 26-Sep-2002 Steve Kargl wrote:
On Thu, Sep 26, 2002 at 02:50:20PM +0100, Mark Murray wrote:
This seems a lot like personal preferance to me, I for one don't like a
lot of tty's, because running getty on a bunch of ttys that I'm not going
to use is a waste of ram I usually keep
Mark Murray writes:
Hi
The attached patch gets done by me any time I set up a FreeBSD
box (I like lots of VTYs and X on ALT-F12).
Any objections to my committing this?
I object.
Most of my machines are headless without video cards and use a serial
console. With
On Thu, Sep 26, 2002 at 11:08:41AM -0400, John Baldwin wrote:
On 26-Sep-2002 Steve Kargl wrote:
I agree with Ken that this is a personal preference
thingie. I have X tied to F8. There is no real reason
for this choice other than inertia. I suspect people who use
mergemaster
On 26-Sep-2002 Andrew Gallatin wrote:
Mark Murray writes:
Hi
The attached patch gets done by me any time I set up a FreeBSD
box (I like lots of VTYs and X on ALT-F12).
Any objections to my committing this?
I object.
Most of my machines are headless without video
On Thu, Sep 26, 2002, Alexander Leidinger wrote:
On Wed, 25 Sep 2002 11:12:34 -0700 Brooks Davis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does CURRENT support journaled filesystem ?
There are not journaling file systems in current at this time.
Efforts to port both xfs and jfs are underway.
On Thu, 26 Sep 2002 10:52:18 -0500 Dan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
We have something better than those. SoftUpdates. Much faster than
jfs in metadata intensive operations.
If you can stand the 20 minutes of severly degraded performance while
the background fsck runs after a crash,
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Mark Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The attached patch gets done by me any time I set up a FreeBSD
box (I like lots of VTYs and X on ALT-F12).
Any objections to my committing this?
PC-98x1 keyboards have only ten function keys. So, it is impossible to
use F11
In the last episode (Sep 26), Alexander Leidinger said:
On Wed, 25 Sep 2002 11:12:34 -0700 Brooks Davis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does CURRENT support journaled filesystem ?
There are not journaling file systems in current at this time.
Efforts to port both xfs and jfs are underway.
Claus Assmann wrote:
Does CURRENT support journaled filesystem ?
There are not journaling file systems in current at this time.
Efforts to port both xfs and jfs are underway.
We have something better than those. SoftUpdates. Much faster than jfs
in metadata intensive
On Thu, Sep 26, 2002 at 10:36:27AM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote:
I think that what you were probably testing was directory entry
layout and O(N) (linear) vs. O(log2(N)+1) search times for both
non-existant entries on creates, and for any entry on lookup
( / 2 on lookup) .
Though dirhash should
David Malone wrote:
On Thu, Sep 26, 2002 at 10:36:27AM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote:
I think that what you were probably testing was directory entry
layout and O(N) (linear) vs. O(log2(N)+1) search times for both
non-existant entries on creates, and for any entry on lookup
( / 2 on lookup)
On Thu, Sep 26, 2002 at 10:36:27AM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote:
I think that what you were probably testing was directory entry
layout and O(N) (linear) vs. O(log2(N)+1) search times for both
non-existant entries on creates, and for any entry on lookup
( / 2 on lookup) .
Though
On Thu, Sep 26, 2002, Terry Lambert wrote:
Claus Assmann wrote:
When we tested several filesystems for mailservers (to store the
mail queue), JFS and ext3 (in journal mode) beat UFS with softupdates
by about a factor of 2.
Hi Claus! Nice to hear from someone who actually tests things!
On Thu, 26 Sep 2002, Claus Assmann wrote:
On Thu, Sep 26, 2002, Terry Lambert wrote:
Claus Assmann wrote:
When we tested several filesystems for mailservers (to store the
mail queue), JFS and ext3 (in journal mode) beat UFS with softupdates
by about a factor of 2.
Hi Claus!
I've been having loads of problems with the bg-fsck. After recovering from
a crash/power failure my machine will boot and start the check. If there's
moderate activity during the time its checking it will panic and reboot, getting
stuck in a loop most of the time. I've not seen anyone mention
David Malone wrote:
On Thu, Sep 26, 2002 at 10:36:27AM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote:
I think that what you were probably testing was directory entry
layout and O(N) (linear) vs. O(log2(N)+1) search times for both
non-existant entries on creates, and for any entry on lookup
( / 2
On Thu, 26 Sep 2002 10:36:27 -0700 Terry Lambert
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That said, journalling and Soft Updates are totally orthogonal
technologies, just as btree and linear directory structures are
two orthogonal things.
Journalling has advantages that a non-journalling FS with soft
On Thu, 26 Sep 2002 14:54:00 -0400 Scott Dodson
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I've been having loads of problems with the bg-fsck. After recovering
from a crash/power failure my machine will boot and start the check.
If there's moderate activity during the time its checking it will
panic and
Claus Assmann wrote:
[ ... out of order answer, not related to main topic ... ]
Per domain doesn't work easily if you have multiple recipients.
Anyway, the new design clearly distinguishes between the content
files and the data that is necessary for delivery.
Actually, it works fine, since it
Terry Lambert wrote:
Yes, soft updates does nothing of user data, it is a metadata
technology. Journalling is implementation dependent; not all
JFS implementations will journal data which is not metadata, so
your results would depend on the JFS.
I think you are not correct here. If I
On 2002-09-26 14:50, Mark Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This seems a lot like personal preferance to me, I for one don't like a
lot of tty's, because running getty on a bunch of ttys that I'm not going
to use is a waste of ram I usually keep F1-F3 as ttys, and make F4 run
kdm. I
Is anyone using IBM microdrive with latest current? Should it work?
My laptop is Toshiba CT3440 running current cvsupped last weekend.
My Cisco Aironet and Linksys network cards are working just fine with
this new card concept.
pccard0: Allocation failed for cfe 0
ata2 at port 0x100-0x10f irq
I am doing an ftp install for -current. I pulled the kern.flp and
mfsroot.flp from 5.0-CURRENT-20020917-JPSNAP. When I went to
select the media, I found the my Intel NIC was not found.
4.7-RC found the card:
fxp0: Intel Pro/100 Ethernet port 0xe000-0xe03f mem
At 10:22 AM +0100 9/26/02, Mark Murray wrote:
Hi
The attached patch gets done by me any time I set up a FreeBSD
box (I like lots of VTYs and X on ALT-F12).
Any objections to my committing this?
I think the we will have more users who are hurt (or at least
annoyed) by moving X, then we have
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hi all
i get the follow error mesgs when i make builword after cvsup my current
,and i found the
sendmail as the same.
btxld -v -E 0x1000 -f bin -b
/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/boot/i386/boot2/../btx/btx/btx -l boot2.ldr -o
boot2.ld -P 1 boot2.bin
btxld: Cannot allocate memory
*** Error code 2
Stop
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On Thu, 26 Sep 2002, Danny Braniss wrote:
if this is of any help:
panic: vn_finished_write: neg cnt
Debugger(panic)
Stopped at Debugger+0x54: xchgl %ebx,in_Debugger.0
db trace
Debugger(c04b2d1c,c05664e0,c04bcd6b,cb4607d8,1) at Debugger+0x54
I had this problem on my box when libc and the kernel got out of sync. I
solved it with:
cd /usr/src/libc; make all install
-Nate
On Fri, 27 Sep 2002, wsk wrote:
hi all
i get the follow error mesgs when i make builword after cvsup my current
,and i found the
sendmail as the same.
On Thu, Sep 26, 2002 at 09:13:41PM +0200, Alexander Leidinger wrote:
Yes, bg-fsck isn't really usable at the moment.
They work fine for me for quite a while. The last buildworld on my
server was Sept 15th.
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On Thu, Sep 26, 2002, Zhihui Zhang wrote:
On Thu, 26 Sep 2002, Claus Assmann wrote:
If someone is interested:
http://www.sendmail.org/~ca/email/sm-9-rfh.html
Just as a small data point: I get message acceptance rates of
400msgs/s on a journalling file system (using a normal PC) that
On Thu, 26 Sep 2002, Peter Wemm wrote:
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Kernel build for LINT started on Thu Sep 26 15:50:41 PDT 2002
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While trying to debug a small mouse misbehavior I discovered that the
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It starts the moused properly but when I type '/etc/rc.d/moused stop'
it says 'moused not running?' and leaves moused running.
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Hello freebsd-current,
I just downloaded the 5.0 DP1 iso and have some questions.
First i noticed the pkg_add ...via ftp is broken as it does not want
to use the tbz packages even with the -r flag. Is this a bug being
fixed for the new format .tbz or is freebsd going to revert back to
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