PC98 still broken

2003-03-29 Thread Takahashi Yoshihiro

 === pcspeaker
 @ - /usr/src/sys
 machine - /usr/src/sys/i386/include
 make: don't know how to make spkr.c. Stop
 *** Error code 2

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Re: PC98 still broken

2003-03-29 Thread Matthew N. Dodd
On Sat, 29 Mar 2003, Takahashi Yoshihiro wrote:
  === pcspeaker
  @ - /usr/src/sys
  machine - /usr/src/sys/i386/include
  make: don't know how to make spkr.c. Stop
  *** Error code 2

Sorry about that.  Fixed.

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FreeBSD/alpha kern.flp flood

2003-03-29 Thread Makoto Matsushita

It seems that kern.flp for FreeBSD/alpha is flooded (tested on FreeBSD/i386).
Maybe several kbytes should be removed from the kernel:

% du -s image.kern
1420image.kern
% ls -lR image.kern
total 1209
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Mar 28 00:57 boot
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  1223388 Mar 28 00:57 kernel.gz

image.kern/boot:
total 210
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel 764 Mar 28 00:57 device.hints
-r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  200864 Mar 28 00:57 loader
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel 245 Mar 28 00:57 loader.rc

Anybody have an idea to reduce the size?

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Re: FreeBSD/alpha kern.flp flood

2003-03-29 Thread Terry Lambert
Makoto Matsushita wrote:
 It seems that kern.flp for FreeBSD/alpha is flooded (tested on FreeBSD/i386).
 Maybe several kbytes should be removed from the kernel:
[ ... ]
 -r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  1223388 Mar 28 00:57 kernel.gz
 -r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  200864 Mar 28 00:57 loader
[ ... ]
 Anybody have an idea to reduce the size?

In theory, you could boot the kernel directly, without the
loader.  For that to work, though, you would need to do some
extra work, but that would get you 200K back.

You might also consider stripping the kernel, if it's not
stripped already; that will break some things, but probably
not things you care about when booting from a floppy.

Maybe there are some drivers, not related to the floppy,
that you could not link in, and provide kernel modules for
them on a seperate floppy; you couldn't strip the symbols,
or not keep the loader, though, in that case.  I don't really
know what's in the kernel you have there, so it's hard to
tell what baggage you have to throw overboard.

You might want to talk to Bruce.

Also, the Alpha folks might be able to pick and choose driver
sets for you, so that you could have several platform-specific
versions of floppies, by stripping platform-specific drivers
from the other floppies in the set.  You'd want to ask on the
-alpha, rther than -current, list for that; the idea may or may
not be feasible.

-- Terry
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sparc64 tinderbox failure

2003-03-29 Thread Mike Barcroft
Tinderbox FAQ: http://people.FreeBSD.org/~mike/tinderbox.html

--
 Rebuilding the temporary build tree
--
 stage 1: bootstrap tools
--
 stage 2: cleaning up the object tree
--
 stage 2: rebuilding the object tree
--
 stage 2: build tools
--
 stage 3: cross tools
--
 stage 4: populating 
 /tinderbox/sparc64/obj/tinderbox/sparc64/src/sparc64/usr/include
--
 stage 4: building libraries
--
 stage 4: make dependencies
--
 stage 4: building everything..
--
=== share/man/man9
make: don't know how to make bus_Activate_resource.9. Stop
*** Error code 2

Stop in /tinderbox/sparc64/src/share/man.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /tinderbox/sparc64/src/share.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /tinderbox/sparc64/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /tinderbox/sparc64/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /tinderbox/sparc64/src.
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Re: AC97 sound problems with current

2003-03-29 Thread Kevin Oberman
 From: Orion Hodson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 17:21:45 -0800
 Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 Kevin Oberman writes:
 | More information on my AC97 experiences:
 |
 | I forced the card to 4.8 KHz which is what it was running at on V4. This
 | seems to have not helped the performance of GnomeMeeting at all. The
 | sound I hear is in spurts which are at the correct frequency and last
 | about a tenth of a second. with gaps between them of about 1 second.
 
 Is 4.8kHz a typo?  It should be 48kHz or 55913Hz depending on your
 h/w.  Which of the two is all the calibration test is supposed to
 determine.  Some ac97 controllers on ich based systems seem to end up
 using an alternate clock source: XTAL_IN rather than BIT_CLK.  The
 former clocks the AC97 link at around 55913Hz when it should be at
 48kHz.  It wasn't clear to me until recently that this was what was
 happening and until some more testing is done I'm not sure if it's a
 feature of the ich driver ac97 initialization or just the way it is.

Yes, 4.8 KHz was a typo. I meant 48 KHz. My desktop systems (ICH2)m both
run at 55913 Hz while my laptop was running at 48 KHz under V4.

 I'm currently configuring a laptop to be a netboot server and will
 sneak up on an unsuspecting ich machine in the next couple of days and
 endeavor to resolve the problem in situ (right now I'm dog tired of
 exchanging patches for remote h/w, but that's not to say the offers
 are not appreciated in general).

Thanks so much. I'm on travel for a week, although I will be on-line
using the laptop running current through Wednesday. I'll be more than
happy to try patches or provide any information I can to help, though I
understand how painful remote debugging can be. (Keeping a national
high-performance network running involves way too much use of remote
hands, even with lots of out-of-band access capability.)

The clocking test failure is easy to work around, so the duplex
operation problems are of far more concern as I need duplex for
teleconferencing which my job often calls for. Back to Windows and
NetMeeting in the interim. :-(

R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer
Energy Sciences Network (ESnet)
Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab)
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Re: sparc64 tinderbox failure

2003-03-29 Thread Peter Wemm
Mike Barcroft wrote:

  stage 4: building everything..
 --
 === share/man/man9
 make: don't know how to make bus_Activate_resource.9. Stop
 *** Error code 2

This looks like a single bit memory error to me.  Turn off bit 5 and a
lowercase a turns into an uppercase A.

Cheers,
-Peter
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Re: sparc64 tinderbox failure

2003-03-29 Thread Jos Backus
On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 11:02:53AM -0800, Peter Wemm wrote:
 Mike Barcroft wrote:
 
   stage 4: building everything..
  --
  === share/man/man9
  make: don't know how to make bus_Activate_resource.9. Stop
  *** Error code 2
 
 This looks like a single bit memory error to me.  Turn off bit 5 and a
 lowercase a turns into an uppercase A.

Interesting. I saw the same thing here with last night's CVS.

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Re: sparc64 tinderbox failure

2003-03-29 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jos Backus writes:
On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 11:02:53AM -0800, Peter Wemm wrote:
 Mike Barcroft wrote:
 
   stage 4: building everything..
  --
  === share/man/man9
  make: don't know how to make bus_Activate_resource.9. Stop
  *** Error code 2
 
 This looks like a single bit memory error to me.  Turn off bit 5 and a
 lowercase a turns into an uppercase A.

Interesting. I saw the same thing here with last night's CVS.

AOL  twice.

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Re: PC98 still broken

2003-03-29 Thread Ruslan Ermilov
On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 05:01:27AM -0500, Matthew N. Dodd wrote:
 On Sat, 29 Mar 2003, Takahashi Yoshihiro wrote:
   === pcspeaker
   @ - /usr/src/sys
   machine - /usr/src/sys/i386/include
   make: don't know how to make spkr.c. Stop
   *** Error code 2
 
 Sorry about that.  Fixed.
 
make release TARGET_ARCH=i386 TARGET=pc98 is your friend.


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Re: FreeBSD/alpha kern.flp flood

2003-03-29 Thread Ruslan Ermilov
On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 03:08:12AM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote:
 Makoto Matsushita wrote:
  It seems that kern.flp for FreeBSD/alpha is flooded (tested on FreeBSD/i386).
  Maybe several kbytes should be removed from the kernel:
 [ ... ]
  -r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  1223388 Mar 28 00:57 kernel.gz
  -r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  200864 Mar 28 00:57 loader
 [ ... ]
  Anybody have an idea to reduce the size?
 
 In theory, you could boot the kernel directly, without the
 loader.  For that to work, though, you would need to do some
 extra work, but that would get you 200K back.
 
bde@ had patches for i386 that obviate the need of loader(8).

 You might also consider stripping the kernel, if it's not
 stripped already; that will break some things, but probably
 not things you care about when booting from a floppy.
 
It's already stripped.  Stripping the .comment section
saves me 400K for my i386 kernel.

 Maybe there are some drivers, not related to the floppy,
 that you could not link in, and provide kernel modules for
 them on a seperate floppy; you couldn't strip the symbols,
 or not keep the loader, though, in that case.  I don't really
 know what's in the kernel you have there, so it's hard to
 tell what baggage you have to throw overboard.
 
Hardly.  The alpha BOOTMFS kernel is already stripped to
a minimum.  I had to remove the IPv6 support from it last
time when I generated the Alpha snapshot on i386 for
Wilko.

 You might want to talk to Bruce.
 
Always a good idea.  :-)

 Also, the Alpha folks might be able to pick and choose driver
 sets for you, so that you could have several platform-specific
 versions of floppies, by stripping platform-specific drivers
 from the other floppies in the set.  You'd want to ask on the
 -alpha, rther than -current, list for that; the idea may or may
 not be feasible.

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Re: sparc64 tinderbox failure

2003-03-29 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 08:18:48PM +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jos Backus writes:
 On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 11:02:53AM -0800, Peter Wemm wrote:
  Mike Barcroft wrote:
  
stage 4: building everything..
   --
   === share/man/man9
   make: don't know how to make bus_Activate_resource.9. Stop
   *** Error code 2
  
  This looks like a single bit memory error to me.  Turn off bit 5 and a
  lowercase a turns into an uppercase A.
 
 Interesting. I saw the same thing here with last night's CVS.
 
 AOL  twice.

It was a single-bit error in imp's brain or fingers :) I fixed it last
night.

Kris


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Re: FreeBSD/alpha kern.flp flood

2003-03-29 Thread David O'Brien
On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 07:09:08PM +0900, Makoto Matsushita wrote:
 
 It seems that kern.flp for FreeBSD/alpha is flooded (tested on FreeBSD/i386).
 Maybe several kbytes should be removed from the kernel:
 image.kern/boot:
 total 210
 -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel 764 Mar 28 00:57 device.hints
 -r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  200864 Mar 28 00:57 loader
 -rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel 245 Mar 28 00:57 loader.rc
 
 Anybody have an idea to reduce the size?

Does this loader have FICL compiled in?
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Hard lockup after / became full

2003-03-29 Thread Kris Kennaway
Bento locked up hard overnight, such that I could not even break to
the debugger.  The timeline of events seems to be:

Mar 29 05:10:02 kern.err bento kernel: pid 46625 (locate.code), uid 65534 inumber 
16041 on /: filesystem full

Some time between 5:15 and 5:20 the system locked up completely.  It
was in the middle of a package build (and daily maintenance) at the
time, so it was under fairly heavy disk and network load.

I'll try and reproduce this sometime when I can spare bento, however I
suspect it's not going to be easy to trigger :(

Kris


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Re: Do we want to let cpp(1) hide warnings in system headers?

2003-03-29 Thread David O'Brien
On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 08:08:54PM +0200, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
 Sigh.  It's been a while since I've fixed the feature of gcc(1)
 that makes it hide warnings in system headers (but visible with
 -nostdinc -I/usr/include).

What is the difference in output from make buildworld?
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Re: sparc64 tinderbox failure

2003-03-29 Thread Terry Lambert
Jos Backus wrote:
 On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 11:02:53AM -0800, Peter Wemm wrote:
  Mike Barcroft wrote:
 
stage 4: building everything..
   --
   === share/man/man9
   make: don't know how to make bus_Activate_resource.9. Stop
   *** Error code 2
 
  This looks like a single bit memory error to me.  Turn off bit 5 and a
  lowercase a turns into an uppercase A.
 
 Interesting. I saw the same thing here with last night's CVS.

Peter didn't say whether it was a SPARC64 single bit memory
error, or a single bit memory error in the human who wrote the
Makefile.

;^).

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kdm xdm problem

2003-03-29 Thread Dane Butler
Hey, my name is Dane.

I have been a Linux user for a few years and have been trying out FreeBSD 
5.0, but there is a problem. I edited the /etc/ttys file as instructed to 
make kdm (and xdm) boot, but as soon as i login, x crashes and reboots, how 
do i get around this?

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Re: kdm xdm problem

2003-03-29 Thread Terry Lambert
Dane Butler wrote:
 I have been a Linux user for a few years and have been trying out FreeBSD
 5.0, but there is a problem. I edited the /etc/ttys file as instructed to
 make kdm (and xdm) boot, but as soon as i login, x crashes and reboots, how
 do i get around this?

1)  Belongs on questions

2)  ctrl-alt-F1 to get to the standard console; log in there,
and fix the problem.

Note: The problem is probably that you have failed to install
xwrapper and/or the window manager, etc., you have selected
for your session does not work.  You should get the xserver
working from a user starting it manually, first, and *then* try
to get the login-via-kdm/login-via-xdm working.

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Re: Do we want to let cpp(1) hide warnings in system headers?

2003-03-29 Thread Ruslan Ermilov
On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 03:19:05PM -0800, David O'Brien wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 08:08:54PM +0200, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
  Sigh.  It's been a while since I've fixed the feature of gcc(1)
  that makes it hide warnings in system headers (but visible with
  -nostdinc -I/usr/include).
 
 What is the difference in output from make buildworld?
 
Lot of (non-fatal) warnings.


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