Re: ATAng regression: cdcontrol close not working

2003-11-18 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Lars Eggert wrote: Lars Eggert wrote: Soren Schmidt wrote: Is there any other patch I can try? I've just confirmed that this bug still exists with today's kernel. I cant reproduce the no matter what I try, sorry... Would remote access to the machine in question help

vnode lock violation in today's -CURRENT

2003-11-18 Thread Don Lewis
I just ran into this while running portupgrade. VOP_GETATTR: 0xc741e000 is not locked but should be Debugger(Lock violation. ) Stopped at Debugger+0x55: xchgl %ebx,in_Debugger.0 db tr Debugger(c08bf9aa,c9749c78,c741e000,c08bf9eb,e820c984) at Debugger+0x55

Re: hit g_provider %p disappeared while tasting

2003-11-18 Thread Bjoern A. Zeeb
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Robert Watson wrote: Hi, Where the dead pointer comes from is what has yet to be discovered. Do you have an atapi-cd drive in this machine ? No. while pxebooting there is no floppy and no hd and no cf rader attached. fxp0, dual intel card fxp1,2 an ed0

Re: upgraded to CURRENT = system is dead

2003-11-18 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Garance A Drosihn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Uh. /usr/src/UPDATING explicitly says: 20031112: [...] You should build and boot a new kernel BEFORE doing a `make world' as the new kernel will know about binaries using the old statfs structure, but an old kernel will not know

Re: Machine freeze when X starts

2003-11-18 Thread d . wylie
Chris Knight wrote: -Original Message- From: Jens Rehsack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 17 November 2003 00:00 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Machine freeze when X starts Hi, after I updated my machine yesterday to the -CURRENT src/ and ports/ of yesterday

Re: build world question

2003-11-18 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I cvsuped an hour or so ago, now when I finish make buildworld I get: === usr.sbin/boot0cfg cc -O -pipe -march=athlon-xp -Wsystem-headers -Werror -Wall -Wno-format-y2k -Wno-uninitialized -c /usr/src/usr.sbin/boot0cfg/boot0cfg.c cc -O -pipe -march=athlon-xp

Re: HEADS-UP new statfs structure

2003-11-18 Thread Mark Dixon
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 14 Nov 2003 08:33, Matt Smith wrote: And gnomevfs was something I saw in another headsup. There are bound to be others, I'm just keeping an eye on my /var/log/messages to see if anything else sig 11 or 12's! So far so good though. I

Re: Machine freeze when X starts

2003-11-18 Thread Peter Ulrich Kruppa
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris Knight wrote: -Original Message- From: Jens Rehsack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 17 November 2003 00:00 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Machine freeze when X starts Hi, after I updated my machine

Re: HEADS-UP new statfs structure

2003-11-18 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 12:44:35PM +, Mark Dixon wrote: On Friday 14 Nov 2003 08:33, Matt Smith wrote: And gnomevfs was something I saw in another headsup. There are bound to be others, I'm just keeping an eye on my /var/log/messages to see if anything else sig 11 or 12's! So far so

Unfortunate dynamic linking for everything

2003-11-18 Thread dyson
Guys, Please revisit the dynamic linking for everything. The cost for using shared libs in cases like shells actually is higher than statically linking (both in memory and in time.) It appears that there is a loss of VM understanding over time. Don't

Re: Machine freeze when X starts

2003-11-18 Thread Jens Rehsack
Peter Ulrich Kruppa wrote: At least we can be sure that something went completely wrong with this weekend's sources. Not just this weekend. The commit of the new interrupt code prevents my system from running with HTT and I've seen nothing in the commits which gives a workaround for me. John

LOR (vm_kern.c:328, vm_map.c:2176) (current-nov-17)

2003-11-18 Thread Eugene
hi, lock order reversal 1st 0xc0c31100 system map (system map) @ /usr/src/sys/vm/vm_kern.c:328 2nd 0xc07052e0 Giant (Giant) @ /usr/src/sys/vm/vm_map.c:2176 Stack backtrace: backtrace witness_lock _mtx_lock_flags rm_map_delete kmem_alloc page_alloc uma_large_malloc malloc g_bde_new_sector

Re: Help getting Realtek 8129-based NIC recognized?

2003-11-18 Thread David Wolfskill
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 23:11:00 -0700 (MST) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Help getting Realtek 8129-based NIC recognized? From: M. Warner Losh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Have you tried re? It's in the kernel config, yes: device rl # RealTek 8129/8139

Re: cvs commit: src/sbin/umount umount.c

2003-11-18 Thread Rudolf Cejka
Ian Dowse wrote (2003/11/16): Modified files: sbin/umount umount.c Log: If the unmount by file system ID fails, don't warn before retrying a non-fsid unmount if the file system ID is all zeros. This is a temporary workaround for warnings that occur in the

Problem booting JPSNAP kernel

2003-11-18 Thread Matt Haught
I have been trying to get the latest current iso to install, but so far I cannot get it to boot. I am installing it on a IBM Netfinity 5500 which has only one processor installed (two possible) and the only thing really special that it has is a ServerRAID card (looks to be built-in or at least

Re: Unfortunate dynamic linking for everything

2003-11-18 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : It really doesn't make sense to arbitrarily cut-off a : discussion especially when a decision might be incorrect. I'd say that good technical discussion about why this is wrong would be good. However, emotional

Re: HEADS-UP new statfs structure

2003-11-18 Thread Rudolf Cejka
Kirk McKusick wrote (2003/11/14): This is why we make this change now so that it will be in place for the masses when 5.2 is released :-) Hello, and is it possible to review some my (one's from masses :o) questions/suggestions? * cvtstatfs() for freebsd4_* compat syscalls does not copy text

Recovery? recent make world rendered system unusable (64 bit change)

2003-11-18 Thread Chris Shenton
I've been running 5.1-CURRENT for a while and a couple nights ago did a make world. After a couple hours building, my system was unusable. Critical binaries like rm, ls, mtree, sh failed, reporting Exec format error. I can't login, not even single user. I can no longer even boot single user.

Re: IBM Blade

2003-11-18 Thread Blaz Zupan
Has anyone been successful installing FreeBSD 5.x (or 4.x) on an IBM HS20 Blade? I would surely be interested in pointers if possible. I tried but failed miserably. There were two problems: 1. It is impossible to boot from CD. Neither 4.8 nor 5.1 boot from CD. Booting from floppy works but

Re: Problem booting JPSNAP kernel

2003-11-18 Thread Peter Schultz
Matt Haught wrote: I have been trying to get the latest current iso to install I have also had negative results with the floppies from the 16th, but the error for me is that no kernel modules want to get loaded, ergo no networking. Good news: It looks like the problems I had creating

Re: Recovery? recent make world rendered system unusable (64 bit change)

2003-11-18 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chris Shenton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : I'm looking for recommendations on how to recover, hopefully without : trashing my critical system files like /etc/passwd. Ideally, I guess : I'd like a way to replace all the broken binaries and any related :

Re: Recovery? recent make world rendered system unusable (64 bit change)

2003-11-18 Thread masta
Hiya, Chris Shenton wrote: ... [snip] ... Any other suggestions? Thanks. Yes, You need to exploit the notion of booting from another root filesystem, mounting the broken root, and then taking corrective action on the corrupted files. The easy way is to grab a recent livecd from the jp

Re: IBM Blade

2003-11-18 Thread Marco Re
On Tuesday 18 November 2003 17:56, Blaz Zupan wrote: FreeBSD 5.x (or 4.x) on an IBM HS20 Blade? I would surely be interested in pointers if possible. I tried but failed miserably. There were two problems: 1. It is impossible to boot from CD. Neither 4.8 nor 5.1 boot from CD. Booting

Re: IBM Blade

2003-11-18 Thread Blaz Zupan
I've solved DISABLING every kind of usb from the kernel. but making so I lost the floppy and the cdrom. :-( I've not tried with 4.9 but only with 4.8 R Well, if you managed to install it, then there is no problem. Reenable usb and put this in /etc/rc.local or some other startup file:

Re: ATAng regression: cdcontrol close not working

2003-11-18 Thread Lars Eggert
Soren Schmidt wrote: FYI, this is still an issue: s = ioctl(fd, CDIOCCLOSE, 0) IOError: [Errno 16] Device busy Hmm, if the call to do the close fails there isn't much I can do... I can't reproduce the problem on any of the dozens of ATAPI CDROM's I have in the closet, so if you want to get

Re: Recovery? recent make world rendered system unusable (64 bit change)

2003-11-18 Thread Barney Wolff
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 11:50:22AM -0500, Chris Shenton wrote: I've been running 5.1-CURRENT for a while and a couple nights ago did a make world. After a couple hours building, my system was unusable. Critical binaries like rm, ls, mtree, sh failed, reporting Exec format error. I can't

anoncvs connection refused?

2003-11-18 Thread Lars Eggert
Hi, I've seen this for the last few days: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: /usr/src] make -DCVS_UPDATE update -- Updating /usr/src from cvs repository -- cd /usr/src; cvs -R -q update -A -P

Update ncurses in base system?

2003-11-18 Thread Matthias Andree
Apparently, the ncurses version in the base system is 5.2, while there is a newer 5.3 port available. Would it make sense to import the 5.3 ncurses into the base system? There are some ports (mail/cone) that need 5.3 and that won't work with FreeBSD 4 either way (missing i18n/l10n features in

Updated acpi_cpu patch

2003-11-18 Thread Nate Lawson
Below you'll find the update patch for acpi_cpu. Please test this, especially for SMP and laptops with _CST objects in their ASL. Thanks, Nate Notes: * Add a detach method that disables entry to acpi_cpu_idle and in the SMP case, IPIs all processors to exit sleeping. This fixes a panic on

Re: anoncvs connection refused?

2003-11-18 Thread Ken Smith
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 09:48:33AM -0800, Lars Eggert wrote: I've seen this for the last few days: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: /usr/src] make -DCVS_UPDATE update -- Updating /usr/src from cvs repository

Re: Recovery? recent make world rendered system unusable (64 bit change)

2003-11-18 Thread Chris Shenton
masta [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The easy way is to grab a recent livecd from the jp snapshot service. [ http://livecd.sourceforge.net/ ] With the jpsnap livecd I was able to boot, copy all the working binaries from the cdrom over the corrupt binaries on the local HDD. I suggest you try the

Re: Recovery? recent 'make world' rendered system unusable (64 bit change)

2003-11-18 Thread masta
Allegedly Chris Shenton said masta [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The easy way is to grab a recent livecd from the jp snapshot service. With the jpsnap livecd I was able to boot, copy all the working binaries from the cdrom over the corrupt binaries on the local HDD. I suggest you try the same

Re: EISA Adaptec 274X SCSI panic (ISRng related)

2003-11-18 Thread Nate Lawson
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Andy Farkas wrote: My EISA AHA2740's don't work no more :( # grep ahc /var/run/dmesg.boot ahc0: Adaptec 274X SCSI adapter at 0x2c00-0x2cff, irq 10 (level) ahc0: on eisa0 slot 2 ahc1: Adaptec 274X SCSI adapter at 0x4c00-0x4cff, irq 11 (level) ahc1: on eisa0 slot 4 ahc2:

Re: 5-CURRENT totally broken on AMD64 in 32-bit mode

2003-11-18 Thread David O'Brien
On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 10:12:03AM -0800, David O'Brien wrote: The kernel changes of the past week has totally turned my AMD64 machine that I use in 32-bit mode running FreeBSD/i386 (GENERIC): OK boot -v cpuid = 0; apic id = 00 instruction pointer = 0x0:0xa00 stack pointer =

Re: FreeBSD current, apache and php4 woes

2003-11-18 Thread Claus Guttesen
Hi. panic: kmem_malloc(4096): kmem_map too small: 275251200 total allocated cpuid = 0; lapic.id = You'll either want to raise the size of the kmem_map pool or decrease the maximum number of vnodes allowed (vnodes get allocated out of the kmem_map and are likely depleating it

LOR (swap_pager.c:1323, swap_pager.c:1838, uma_core.c:876) (current:Nov17)

2003-11-18 Thread Cosmin Stroe
Here is the stack backtrace: lock order reversal 1st 0xc1da318c vm object (vm object) @ /usr/src/sys/vm/swap_pager.c:1323 2nd 0xc0724900 swap_pager swhash (swap_pager swhash) @ /usr/src/sys/vm/swap_pager.c:1838 3rd 0xc0c358c4 vm object (vm object) @ /usr/src/sys/vm/uma_core.c:876 Stack

Re: LOR (swap_pager.c:1323, swap_pager.c:1838, uma_core.c:876) (current:Nov17)

2003-11-18 Thread Jeff Roberson
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Cosmin Stroe wrote: Here is the stack backtrace: Thanks, this is known and is actually safe. We're pursuing ways to quiet these warnings. lock order reversal 1st 0xc1da318c vm object (vm object) @ /usr/src/sys/vm/swap_pager.c:1323 2nd 0xc0724900 swap_pager swhash

Re: Update ncurses in base system?

2003-11-18 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 06:57:08PM +0100, Matthias Andree wrote: Apparently, the ncurses version in the base system is 5.2, while there is a newer 5.3 port available. Would it make sense to import the 5.3 ncurses into the base system? Perhaps, once FreeBSD 5.2 is released. A committer needs

Re: LOR (swap_pager.c:1323, swap_pager.c:1838, uma_core.c:876) (current:Nov17)

2003-11-18 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 01:53:28PM -0600, Cosmin Stroe wrote: Here is the stack backtrace: lock order reversal 1st 0xc1da318c vm object (vm object) @ /usr/src/sys/vm/swap_pager.c:1323 2nd 0xc0724900 swap_pager swhash (swap_pager swhash) @ /usr/src/sys/vm/swap_pager.c:1838 3rd

Current SMP with ACPI dies in a second

2003-11-18 Thread Tomi Vainio - Sun Finland
My old MSI-6120 SMP system has been unusable quite a while with ACPI. I've got these so far: - Couldn't get vector from ISR - vmstat -i shows high interrupt rates and system is very slow - kernel trap 12 panic Latest problem is something like this: pfs_vncache_unload(): 2 entries remaining

Re: Unfortunate dynamic linking for everything

2003-11-18 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Nov 18), M. Warner Losh said: In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : It really doesn't make sense to arbitrarily cut-off a discussion : especially when a decision might be incorrect. I'd say that good technical discussion about why this is

Re: FreeBSD current, apache and php4 woes

2003-11-18 Thread Scott Long
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, [iso-8859-1] Claus Guttesen wrote: Hi. panic: kmem_malloc(4096): kmem_map too small: 275251200 total allocated cpuid = 0; lapic.id = You'll either want to raise the size of the kmem_map pool or decrease the maximum number of vnodes allowed (vnodes

RE: cardbus no longer working with -CURRENT and ACPI

2003-11-18 Thread John Baldwin
On 15-Nov-2003 Dylan Wylie wrote: List, Running -CURRENT now gives the following problem on a Compaq Pressario 1600- XL144 laptop: [...] cbb0: TI1211 PCI-CardBus Bridge at device 10.0 on pci0 cardbus0: CardBus bus on cbb0 pccard0: 16-bit PCCard bus on cbb0 pcib0: _PRS resource entry

Re: Updated acpi_cpu patch

2003-11-18 Thread Lukas Ertl
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Nate Lawson wrote: Below you'll find the update patch for acpi_cpu. Please test this, especially for SMP and laptops with _CST objects in their ASL. Looks good here on a Centrino based laptop, which has a _CST method in its ASL: acpi_cpu0: CPU on acpi0 acpi_cpu0: C2

Re: Updated acpi_cpu patch

2003-11-18 Thread Lukas Ertl
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Lukas Ertl wrote: hw.acpi.cpu.cx_supported: C1/1 C2/1 C3/85 hw.acpi.cpu.cx_lowest: 0 hw.acpi.cpu.cx_history: 86231/0 0/0 0/0 Although it seems I have lost a C3 state (before, I had an additional C3/185). Correction: every other boot I get the additional C3/185 -

Re: Updated acpi_cpu patch

2003-11-18 Thread Robert Watson
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Nate Lawson wrote: Below you'll find the update patch for acpi_cpu. Please test this, especially for SMP and laptops with _CST objects in their ASL. ... Notes: * Add a detach method that disables entry to acpi_cpu_idle and in the SMP case, IPIs all processors to exit

Re: Updated acpi_cpu patch

2003-11-18 Thread Nate Lawson
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Lukas Ertl wrote: On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Nate Lawson wrote: Below you'll find the update patch for acpi_cpu. Please test this, especially for SMP and laptops with _CST objects in their ASL. Looks good here on a Centrino based laptop, which has a _CST method in its ASL:

Re: FreeBSD current, apache and php4 woes

2003-11-18 Thread Claus Guttesen
Hi. Add one of the two lines to /boot/loader.conf: kern.vn.kmem.size=35000 or kern.maxvnodes=15 The first one is probably the better choice for you since the very nature of what you are doing demands that you touch a lot of vnodes. 1. added kern.vm.kmem.size=45000 2.

Re: Updated acpi_cpu patch

2003-11-18 Thread Nate Lawson
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Robert Watson wrote: On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Nate Lawson wrote: Below you'll find the update patch for acpi_cpu. Please test this, especially for SMP and laptops with _CST objects in their ASL. ... Notes: * Add a detach method that disables entry to acpi_cpu_idle and

Re: Updated acpi_cpu patch

2003-11-18 Thread Lukas Ertl
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Nate Lawson wrote: On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Lukas Ertl wrote: hw.acpi.cpu.cx_supported: C1/1 C2/1 C3/85 hw.acpi.cpu.cx_lowest: 0 hw.acpi.cpu.cx_history: 86231/0 0/0 0/0 Try settings of cx_lowest of 1 and 2 (and 3 when the last C3 state is available). I'm interested in

Re: Updated acpi_cpu patch

2003-11-18 Thread Nate Lawson
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Lukas Ertl wrote: On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Nate Lawson wrote: Try settings of cx_lowest of 1 and 2 (and 3 when the last C3 state is available). I'm interested in any benchmark results, especially IO. I'm hoping the scheduling of sleeps is good enough that you don't

Re: Updated acpi_cpu patch

2003-11-18 Thread Robert Watson
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Nate Lawson wrote: On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Robert Watson wrote: On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Nate Lawson wrote: Below you'll find the update patch for acpi_cpu. Please test this, especially for SMP and laptops with _CST objects in their ASL. ... Notes: * Add a

Re: Updated acpi_cpu patch

2003-11-18 Thread Nate Lawson
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Robert Watson wrote: On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Nate Lawson wrote: Could you add a printf to the start of acpi_cpu_detach()? I want to see if we're being called before or after ACPI is stopped (Shutting down So indeed, it doesn't look like the ACPI detach call has gone out

Re: Updated acpi_cpu patch

2003-11-18 Thread Don Lewis
On 18 Nov, Lukas Ertl wrote: On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Nate Lawson wrote: This excerpt from truckman@'s asl shows that 4 Cx states are only available when the AC adapter is not attached. (The C*NA memory addresses appear to be managed by the BIOS and not the AML but the PSR access is clear).

Re: Updated acpi_cpu patch

2003-11-18 Thread Nate Lawson
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Don Lewis wrote: On 18 Nov, Lukas Ertl wrote: On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Nate Lawson wrote: This excerpt from truckman@'s asl shows that 4 Cx states are only available when the AC adapter is not attached. (The C*NA memory addresses appear to be managed by the BIOS and not

natd-Related Panic (?)

2003-11-18 Thread Rogelio Rodriguez
Sources cvsupped on the 16th or so. Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x0 fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc04fe96f stack pointer = 0x10:0xc9414ab0 frame pointer = 0x10:0xc9414ad4

Re: Corrected HEADS UP: the midi driver will be removed after 5.2-R

2003-11-18 Thread Seigo Tanimura
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 22:42:44 +0900, Seigo Tanimura [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: tanimura Mathew Kanner has developed the new version of the midi framework, tanimura based on kobj(9) and buildable as a module. As the first step to tanimura replace the midi driver, the conventional one is removed

floppy install [was: cvs commit: src/release/i386 drivers.conf]

2003-11-18 Thread Peter Schultz
It looks like the build has broken again in the same place: ftp://snapshots.jp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/i386/5.1-CURRENT-20031118-JPSNAP.log If the beta is coming out tomorrow, it would be cool to have this fixed. The floppies from the 16th cannot load any of the kernel modules, I think

Re: acpi_cpu_idle panic (Was: Re: kernel panic with todays source)

2003-11-18 Thread Harald Schmalzbauer
On Tuesday 18 November 2003 18:58, you wrote: On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Harald Schmalzbauer wrote: On Tuesday 18 November 2003 03:37, you wrote: Sorry I wasn't more clear. I need you to print the contents like this: print *cpu_cx_count cpu_cx_count 1 cpu_cx_lowest 0 cpu_idle_hook

Re: Updated acpi_cpu patch

2003-11-18 Thread Lukas Ertl
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Nate Lawson wrote: On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Don Lewis wrote: Yup, a Thinkpad R40, which refuses to actually power down in ACPI mode when I run shutdown -p. That's an old problem that Linux is also trying to work around. It appears to be buggy hw. Just for the record:

Re: Unfortunate dynamic linking for everything

2003-11-18 Thread Bruce Evans
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, M. Warner Losh wrote: In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : It really doesn't make sense to arbitrarily cut-off a : discussion especially when a decision might be incorrect. I'd say that good technical discussion about why this is

Re: cvs commit: src/sbin/umount umount.c

2003-11-18 Thread Ian Dowse
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Rudolf Cejka writes: If the unmount by file system ID fails, don't warn before retrying a non-fsid unmount if the file system ID is all zeros. This is a ... Hello and thanks for fixing this! I had a plan to report this, but you were faster :o) I'm interested in

Re: natd-Related Panic (?)

2003-11-18 Thread Andreas Kohn
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 23:38, Rogelio Rodriguez wrote: Sources cvsupped on the 16th or so. Try re-cvsup-ing. I was struck by the same problem and it was fixed with rev 1.256 of ip_input.c HTH, -- Andreas Kohn [EMAIL

Re: Unfortunate dynamic linking for everything

2003-11-18 Thread dyson
M. Warner Losh said: In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : It really doesn't make sense to arbitrarily cut-off a : discussion especially when a decision might be incorrect. I'd say that good technical discussion about why this is wrong would be good.

named problem (introduced in 5.1)

2003-11-18 Thread Aleksander Rozman - Andy
-- Resending this. Since it might got lost. Hi ! I have been running named for few years now, and I never had any problem with it. Few days ago I upgraded system to 5.1 (Release) and named has gone beserk. It shows errors in named.root file. Error go something like this: check_hints: no A

Re: Recovery? recent make world rendered system unusable (64 bit change)

2003-11-18 Thread Scott Likens
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 08:50, Chris Shenton wrote: I've been running 5.1-CURRENT for a while and a couple nights ago did a make world. After a couple hours building, my system was unusable. Critical binaries like rm, ls, mtree, sh failed, reporting Exec format error. I can't login, not even

Panic in cache_lookup()

2003-11-18 Thread Bruce M Simpson
Bleeding edge current updated around 15:00 GMT today. This was triggered whilst building GENERIC to test someone's patches... db trace cache_lookup(c2c50514,d65d9c28,d65d9c3c,c2c50514,c29fd280) at cache_lookup+0x166 vfs_cache_lookup(d65d9b70,d65d9b8c,c051ab52,d65d9b70,20002) at

Re: Unfortunate dynamic linking for everything

2003-11-18 Thread Scott Long
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: M. Warner Losh said: In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : It really doesn't make sense to arbitrarily cut-off a : discussion especially when a decision might be incorrect. I'd say that good technical

Panic in random_harvest()

2003-11-18 Thread Bruce M Simpson
I think a fix was already committed for this, but it's biting me hard right now. Script started on Wed Nov 19 00:09:06 2003 kimchi# gdb -k /home/bms/cvs/src/sys/i386/compile/KIMCHI vm/kernel.debig ug vmcore.7 GNU gdb 5.2.1 (FreeBSD) Copyright 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc.

Re: hard lock-up writing to tape

2003-11-18 Thread Mike Durian
On Monday 17 November 2003 04:41 pm, Mike Durian wrote: I was finally able to get some partial success by setting flag 0x30 for sio1. When I'd boot, I'd get console messages on my remote tip session. However, I'd only receive those messages printed from user-level applications. I would not

Re: Unfortunate dynamic linking for everything

2003-11-18 Thread dyson
Scott Long said: On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: M. Warner Losh said: In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : It really doesn't make sense to arbitrarily cut-off a : discussion especially when a decision might be incorrect.

Re: Unfortunate dynamic linking for everything

2003-11-18 Thread Colin Percival
At 17:06 18/11/2003 -0700, Scott Long wrote: Our rationale for encouraging Gordon is as follows: 1. 4.x upgrade path: As we approach 5-STABLE, a lot of users might want to upgrade from 4-STABLE. Historically in 4.x, the / partition has been very modest in size. One just simply cannot

Re: Unfortunate dynamic linking for everything

2003-11-18 Thread masta
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scott Long said: On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: M. Warner Losh said: In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : It really doesn't make sense to arbitrarily cut-off a : discussion especially when a decision might be

Re: build world question

2003-11-18 Thread Jason
Steve Kargl wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 11:12:20PM -0500, Jason wrote: I cvsuped an hour or so ago, now when I finish make buildworld I get: === usr.sbin/boot0cfg cc -O -pipe -march=athlon-xp -Wsystem-headers -Werror -Wall -Wno-format-y2k -Wno-uninitialized -c

Re: Unfortunate dynamic linking for everything

2003-11-18 Thread dyson
masta said: One of ther things he might have forgot to mention is dynamic tricks releated to PAM, which sorta falls in the same league as NSS working out of the box. It was worth mentioning IMHO. I guess that I have to remember that my own goals of 'performance' and handling 'highest

Re: HEADS-UP new statfs structure

2003-11-18 Thread Bruce Evans
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Rudolf Cejka wrote: Hello, and is it possible to review some my (one's from masses :o) questions/suggestions? * cvtstatfs() for freebsd4_* compat syscalls does not copy text fields correctly, so old binaries with new kernel know just about first 16 characters from

Re: Unfortunate dynamic linking for everything

2003-11-18 Thread Scott Long
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scott Long said: On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: M. Warner Losh said: In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : It really doesn't make sense to arbitrarily cut-off a : discussion

Re: HEADS-UP new statfs structure

2003-11-18 Thread Craig Rodrigues
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 08:33:06AM +, Matt Smith wrote: Marco Wertejuk wrote: Just for a short note: cfsd (ports/security/cfs) should be recompiled as well after those statfs changes. And mail/postfix and devel/gnomevfs2 (ones's i've found so far) I think this was reported earlier, but

Re: build world question

2003-11-18 Thread Jason
Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I cvsuped an hour or so ago, now when I finish make buildworld I get: === usr.sbin/boot0cfg cc -O -pipe -march=athlon-xp -Wsystem-headers -Werror -Wall -Wno-format-y2k -Wno-uninitialized -c /usr/src/usr.sbin/boot0cfg/boot0cfg.c cc -O

Re: acpi_cpu_idle panic (Was: Re: kernel panic with todays source)

2003-11-18 Thread Eric Anderson
Harald Schmalzbauer wrote: On Tuesday 18 November 2003 18:58, you wrote: On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Harald Schmalzbauer wrote: On Tuesday 18 November 2003 03:37, you wrote: Sorry I wasn't more clear. I need you to print the contents like this: print *cpu_cx_count cpu_cx_count

Re: Unfortunate dynamic linking for everything

2003-11-18 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 8:07 AM -0500 11/18/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It really doesn't make sense to arbitrarily cut-off a discussion especially when a decision might be incorrect. All I wanted to cut off was the claim that this decision had not been discussed publicly before. It was also annoying

Multifunction USB devices

2003-11-18 Thread Jeff Walters
I have an Epson printer/scanner combo device (CX5200) which works just fine either as a printer or as a scanner (when I add the vendor and product codes to usbdevs and uscanner.c) but not both simultaneously. Currently I compile ulpt and my customized uscanner as modules, and to switch

Re: Unfortunate dynamic linking for everything

2003-11-18 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 6:42 PM -0600 11/18/03, masta wrote: Besides, I see nothing preventing anybody from building their system with static worlds, true... and there is nothing stopping anybody from putting /rescue in the PATH before /bin or /sbin. Note that this will not have the same performance as the older

Re: acpi_cpu_idle panic (Was: Re: kernel panic with todays source)

2003-11-18 Thread Harald Schmalzbauer
On Wednesday 19 November 2003 02:09, Eric Anderson wrote: Harald Schmalzbauer wrote: On Tuesday 18 November 2003 18:58, you wrote: On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Harald Schmalzbauer wrote: On Tuesday 18 November 2003 03:37, you wrote: Sorry I wasn't more clear. I need you to print the contents like

Re: Unfortunate dynamic linking for everything

2003-11-18 Thread Scott Long
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Colin Percival wrote: At 17:06 18/11/2003 -0700, Scott Long wrote: Our rationale for encouraging Gordon is as follows: 1. 4.x upgrade path: As we approach 5-STABLE, a lot of users might want to upgrade from 4-STABLE. Historically in 4.x, the / partition has

Re: Unfortunate dynamic linking for everything

2003-11-18 Thread dyson
Scott Long said: On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The cool thing about properly implemented shared libs is that not everything has to be shared. Even the kernel supports runtime loading/addition of modules, and the NSS sounds like a good candidate for a library feature.

Re: acpi_cpu_idle panic (Was: Re: kernel panic with todays source)

2003-11-18 Thread Nate Lawson
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Eric Anderson wrote: And here is what you requested in your first patch: cale:~ sysctl hw.acpi.cpu hw.acpi.cpu.cx_supported: C1/0 hw.acpi.cpu.cx_lowest: 0 hw.acpi.cpu.cx_history: 0/0 Ok - what do I need to do to try this new acpi stuff out? I'm running -current as

Re: Unfortunate dynamic linking for everything

2003-11-18 Thread Gordon Tetlow
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 08:03:23PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, PAM and NSS 'tricks' really seem to be exactly that, and certainly worthy of special builds. However, that isn't necessary, yet still not building everything with a shared libc. Things like nss_ldap (which is used

Re: Unfortunate dynamic linking for everything

2003-11-18 Thread dyson
Gordon Tetlow said: On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 08:03:23PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, PAM and NSS 'tricks' really seem to be exactly that, and certainly worthy of special builds. However, that isn't necessary, yet still not building everything with a shared libc. Things

Re: Unfortunate dynamic linking for everything

2003-11-18 Thread Matthew Dillon
:Our rationale for encouraging Gordon is as follows: : :1. 4.x upgrade path: As we approach 5-STABLE, a lot of users might want :to upgrade from 4-STABLE. Historically in 4.x, the / partition has :been very modest in size. One just simply cannot cram the bloat that :has grown in

Re: Unfortunate dynamic linking for everything

2003-11-18 Thread Matthew Dillon
: :As far as I'm concerned, this is a non-issue. Identifying which static : binaries need to be replaced is now a solved problem, replacing them is : easy, and if binary patches are used, there is effectively no impact on : bandwidth usage either. : :Bandwidth is still a concern for a lot of

Re: Unfortunate dynamic linking for everything

2003-11-18 Thread Matthew Dillon
:/boot has grown quite large too and threatens to be unbounded in size as :times go on. Shaving off the 30-40MB of size in /bin and /sbin can :help alleviate this, even on system formatted in 5.x partition sized. :... :This argument wasn't the most compelling one by itself, but it played a :part

Re: Unfortunate dynamic linking for everything

2003-11-18 Thread dyson
Gang, I suspect that my position has been expressed adequately. Further discussion might become divisive, but a decision that incurs the overhead of performance or a rebuild on the default user base seems wrong (JUST MY OPINION.) It took ALOT of

Re: Unfortunate dynamic linking for everything

2003-11-18 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 6:38 PM -0800 11/18/03, Matthew Dillon wrote: So you are talking about 1.5 MBytes less bandwidth, which is nothing compared to the cost of doing a full install over the net. Yah, yah, /sbin too... but you get the idea. Many freebsd users (me for one) are still living on a

Re: Unfortunate dynamic linking for everything

2003-11-18 Thread Robert Watson
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There might be a certain 'coolness' WRT dynamically linking everything, but the overhead is certainly measurable. If the object is to maximally 'share', then for shells the FreeBSD VM shares maximally without using shared libs (perhaps there is a

Re: Unfortunate dynamic linking for everything

2003-11-18 Thread Colin Percival
At 21:54 18/11/2003 -0500, Garance A Drosihn wrote: Many freebsd users (me for one) are still living on a modem, where even one bump of 1.5 meg is a significant issue... Remember that the issue we're talking about is security updates, not full system upgrades. Everyone would want the security

Re: Unfortunate dynamic linking for everything

2003-11-18 Thread Matthew Dillon
:Many freebsd users (me for one) are still living on a modem, :where even one bump of 1.5 meg is a significant issue... : :Remember that the issue we're talking about is security :updates, not full system upgrades. Everyone would want :the security updates, even if they're on a slow link. : :--

Re: Unfortunate dynamic linking for everything

2003-11-18 Thread Frank Mayhar
I just thought I would chime in on this heated debate and maybe add a little gasoline or at least a few oily rags. :-) For what it's worth, I've been running FreeBSD literally since before its inception, when it was merely a collection of patches to 386BSD 0.1. I'm also a longtime kernel guy so

Re: hard lock-up writing to tape

2003-11-18 Thread Bruce Evans
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Mike Durian wrote: On Monday 17 November 2003 04:41 pm, Mike Durian wrote: I was finally able to get some partial success by setting flag 0x30 for sio1. When I'd boot, I'd get console messages on my remote tip session. However, I'd only receive those messages

Re: panic: vm_fault: fault on nofault entry

2003-11-18 Thread Jun Kuriyama
After CVSup'ing to latest source, it can be reproduced. It happens at make release. /mnt below may indicates this happened at making floppies with mfs filesystem. - serial console /mnt: correcting fs_sblockloc from 8192 to 65536 panic: vm_fault: fault on nofault entry, addr: daef5000

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