Is anyone actively working on making CUDA support possible in FreeBSD?

2018-11-29 Thread Brennan Vincent
Hi all.

I'm aware that currently there is no way to make CUDA work on FreeBSD. I am 
wondering whether there are any plans in the work to support it, and if there 
are any mailing lists or pages that I could follow along with to see the 
progress.

Thanks,
btv
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Re: SCSI and dmesg

2018-11-29 Thread Alan Somers
On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 11:08 AM Brooks Davis  wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 11:01:01AM -0700, Alan Somers wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 10:49 AM Warner Losh  wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 8:09 AM Alan Somers 
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 3:57 PM Warner Losh  wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 3:32 PM Maxim Sobolev  >
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> > Somebody needs to make collection/submission automatic and make a
> port
> > >>> out
> > >>> > of it, so that it's as easy as pkg install dmesg_survey &&
> > >>> > dmesg_survey_enabled="YES" in the /etc/rc.conf. JIMHO. I'd gladly
> make
> > >>> it a
> > >>> > default on all dev boxes within our organization. Might also make a
> > >>> nice
> > >>> > SoC project idea.
> > >>> >
> > >>>
> > >>> It's barely a weekend hack, since with the curl 1 liner 95% of what
> you
> > >>> want is there.
> > >>>
> > >>> This service isn't suitable, though, to have it in rc.conf, I don't
> > >>> think,
> > >>> unless it's updated only when there's a material change...
> > >>>
> > >>> And I'd rather we get more nuanced data than dmesg can provide if we
> were
> > >>> to do the data collection. The admonition to submit to this site was
> one
> > >>> of
> > >>> expedience...
> > >>>
> > >>> Warner
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> Sounds like somebody needs to adopt sysutils/bsdstats.  It's a great
> > >> start, but it needs some TLC.
> > >>
> > >
> > > Except there's no available data from it. And it's not a great start,
> but
> > > a terrible one. It gathers the wrong things.
> > >
> > > Warner
> > >
> >
> > What do you mean "no available data"?  Are you saying that you'd prefer
> > direct access to the server rather than access through the web UI?  I'm
> > sure Scrappy would allow that.  He's implied that he'd like some help
> with
> > the server.  What I like about bsdstats is that it's much more structured
> > than your dmesg service.  Instead of a big long string, it gathers
> > structured info with sysctl, pciconf, and pkg.  Plus, it already has a
> > port, it's integrated into periodic(8), and it has a website.  If it
> omits
> > some information that you would like to see, then you should enhance it;
> > not replace it.
>
> The data isn't available through the UI because it's broken.  Try
> drilling down to find all the NIC types for example and you'll get:
>
> ERROR !!
>
> an e-mail has been sent to the staff
> we are sorry for this problem
>
> I've reported this multiple time and at least once Scrappy claimed it
> was fixed, but it wasn't.
>
> -- Brooks
>

Try drilling down to find all the NIC types in dmesgd and you'll get
nothing at all, because that feature doesn't exist.  bsdstats obviously
needs some TLC, but why reinvent the wheel?

-Alan
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Re: SCSI and dmesg

2018-11-29 Thread Brooks Davis
On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 11:01:01AM -0700, Alan Somers wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 10:49 AM Warner Losh  wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 8:09 AM Alan Somers  wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 3:57 PM Warner Losh  wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 3:32 PM Maxim Sobolev 
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > Somebody needs to make collection/submission automatic and make a port
> >>> out
> >>> > of it, so that it's as easy as pkg install dmesg_survey &&
> >>> > dmesg_survey_enabled="YES" in the /etc/rc.conf. JIMHO. I'd gladly make
> >>> it a
> >>> > default on all dev boxes within our organization. Might also make a
> >>> nice
> >>> > SoC project idea.
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>> It's barely a weekend hack, since with the curl 1 liner 95% of what you
> >>> want is there.
> >>>
> >>> This service isn't suitable, though, to have it in rc.conf, I don't
> >>> think,
> >>> unless it's updated only when there's a material change...
> >>>
> >>> And I'd rather we get more nuanced data than dmesg can provide if we were
> >>> to do the data collection. The admonition to submit to this site was one
> >>> of
> >>> expedience...
> >>>
> >>> Warner
> >>>
> >>
> >> Sounds like somebody needs to adopt sysutils/bsdstats.  It's a great
> >> start, but it needs some TLC.
> >>
> >
> > Except there's no available data from it. And it's not a great start, but
> > a terrible one. It gathers the wrong things.
> >
> > Warner
> >
> 
> What do you mean "no available data"?  Are you saying that you'd prefer
> direct access to the server rather than access through the web UI?  I'm
> sure Scrappy would allow that.  He's implied that he'd like some help with
> the server.  What I like about bsdstats is that it's much more structured
> than your dmesg service.  Instead of a big long string, it gathers
> structured info with sysctl, pciconf, and pkg.  Plus, it already has a
> port, it's integrated into periodic(8), and it has a website.  If it omits
> some information that you would like to see, then you should enhance it;
> not replace it.

The data isn't available through the UI because it's broken.  Try
drilling down to find all the NIC types for example and you'll get:

ERROR !!

an e-mail has been sent to the staff
we are sorry for this problem

I've reported this multiple time and at least once Scrappy claimed it
was fixed, but it wasn't.

-- Brooks


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Re: SCSI and dmesg

2018-11-29 Thread Alan Somers
On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 10:49 AM Warner Losh  wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 8:09 AM Alan Somers  wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 3:57 PM Warner Losh  wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 3:32 PM Maxim Sobolev 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Somebody needs to make collection/submission automatic and make a port
>>> out
>>> > of it, so that it's as easy as pkg install dmesg_survey &&
>>> > dmesg_survey_enabled="YES" in the /etc/rc.conf. JIMHO. I'd gladly make
>>> it a
>>> > default on all dev boxes within our organization. Might also make a
>>> nice
>>> > SoC project idea.
>>> >
>>>
>>> It's barely a weekend hack, since with the curl 1 liner 95% of what you
>>> want is there.
>>>
>>> This service isn't suitable, though, to have it in rc.conf, I don't
>>> think,
>>> unless it's updated only when there's a material change...
>>>
>>> And I'd rather we get more nuanced data than dmesg can provide if we were
>>> to do the data collection. The admonition to submit to this site was one
>>> of
>>> expedience...
>>>
>>> Warner
>>>
>>
>> Sounds like somebody needs to adopt sysutils/bsdstats.  It's a great
>> start, but it needs some TLC.
>>
>
> Except there's no available data from it. And it's not a great start, but
> a terrible one. It gathers the wrong things.
>
> Warner
>

What do you mean "no available data"?  Are you saying that you'd prefer
direct access to the server rather than access through the web UI?  I'm
sure Scrappy would allow that.  He's implied that he'd like some help with
the server.  What I like about bsdstats is that it's much more structured
than your dmesg service.  Instead of a big long string, it gathers
structured info with sysctl, pciconf, and pkg.  Plus, it already has a
port, it's integrated into periodic(8), and it has a website.  If it omits
some information that you would like to see, then you should enhance it;
not replace it.

-Alan


>
>
>
>
>>
>>>
>>> > -Max
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 2:08 PM Yuri Pankov  wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Yuri Pankov wrote:
>>> > > > Warner Losh wrote:
>>> > > >> Greetings
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> a few weeks ago I pointed people to the nycbug dmesg service. I
>>> said I
>>> > > was
>>> > > >> looking at data to drive SCSI retirement. I've gatherd some
>>> > preliminary
>>> > > >> data, which I've uploaded to
>>> > > >> https://github.com/bsdimp/device-data/blob/master/cam.md along
>>> with
>>> > > some
>>> > > >> preliminary notions of disposition for the hardware. I'm still
>>> working
>>> > > out
>>> > > >> the kinks in the dmesg parsing, but this is interesting data.
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> If you've not recently submitted, please consider doing so. We'll
>>> be
>>> > > >> finalizing the scsi SIMs that I'm going to propose retiring in 13
>>> here
>>> > > in a
>>> > > >> few weeks, and I'm going to base much of what list I come up with
>>> > based
>>> > > on
>>> > > >> what is submitted. The glitches with FreeBSD dmesgs have been
>>> cleared
>>> > > up as
>>> > > >> well.
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> http://dmesgd.nycbug.org/index.cgi
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> or
>>> > > >>
>>> > > >> curl -v -d "nickname=$USER" -d "email=$USER@$(hostname)" -d
>>> > > >> "description=FreeBSD/$(uname -m) on $(kenv smbios.system.maker)
>>> $(kenv
>>> > > >> smbios.system.product)" -d "do=addd" --data-urlencode 'dmesg@
>>> > > >> /var/run/dmesg.boot' http://dmesgd.nycbug.org/index.cgi
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Got another system to submit, but continuously getting "500
>>> Internal
>>> > > > Server Error" using the curl one-liner.  dmesg.boot attached in
>>> case
>>> > > > it's the source of the problem.
>>> > >
>>> > > It works now, sorry for the noise.
>>> > >
>>> > >
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Re: SCSI and dmesg

2018-11-29 Thread Warner Losh
On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 8:09 AM Alan Somers  wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 3:57 PM Warner Losh  wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 3:32 PM Maxim Sobolev 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Somebody needs to make collection/submission automatic and make a port
>> out
>> > of it, so that it's as easy as pkg install dmesg_survey &&
>> > dmesg_survey_enabled="YES" in the /etc/rc.conf. JIMHO. I'd gladly make
>> it a
>> > default on all dev boxes within our organization. Might also make a nice
>> > SoC project idea.
>> >
>>
>> It's barely a weekend hack, since with the curl 1 liner 95% of what you
>> want is there.
>>
>> This service isn't suitable, though, to have it in rc.conf, I don't think,
>> unless it's updated only when there's a material change...
>>
>> And I'd rather we get more nuanced data than dmesg can provide if we were
>> to do the data collection. The admonition to submit to this site was one
>> of
>> expedience...
>>
>> Warner
>>
>
> Sounds like somebody needs to adopt sysutils/bsdstats.  It's a great
> start, but it needs some TLC.
>

Except there's no available data from it. And it's not a great start, but a
terrible one. It gathers the wrong things.

Warner




>
>>
>> > -Max
>> >
>> > On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 2:08 PM Yuri Pankov  wrote:
>> >
>> > > Yuri Pankov wrote:
>> > > > Warner Losh wrote:
>> > > >> Greetings
>> > > >>
>> > > >> a few weeks ago I pointed people to the nycbug dmesg service. I
>> said I
>> > > was
>> > > >> looking at data to drive SCSI retirement. I've gatherd some
>> > preliminary
>> > > >> data, which I've uploaded to
>> > > >> https://github.com/bsdimp/device-data/blob/master/cam.md along
>> with
>> > > some
>> > > >> preliminary notions of disposition for the hardware. I'm still
>> working
>> > > out
>> > > >> the kinks in the dmesg parsing, but this is interesting data.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> If you've not recently submitted, please consider doing so. We'll
>> be
>> > > >> finalizing the scsi SIMs that I'm going to propose retiring in 13
>> here
>> > > in a
>> > > >> few weeks, and I'm going to base much of what list I come up with
>> > based
>> > > on
>> > > >> what is submitted. The glitches with FreeBSD dmesgs have been
>> cleared
>> > > up as
>> > > >> well.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> http://dmesgd.nycbug.org/index.cgi
>> > > >>
>> > > >> or
>> > > >>
>> > > >> curl -v -d "nickname=$USER" -d "email=$USER@$(hostname)" -d
>> > > >> "description=FreeBSD/$(uname -m) on $(kenv smbios.system.maker)
>> $(kenv
>> > > >> smbios.system.product)" -d "do=addd" --data-urlencode 'dmesg@
>> > > >> /var/run/dmesg.boot' http://dmesgd.nycbug.org/index.cgi
>> > > >
>> > > > Got another system to submit, but continuously getting "500 Internal
>> > > > Server Error" using the curl one-liner.  dmesg.boot attached in case
>> > > > it's the source of the problem.
>> > >
>> > > It works now, sorry for the noise.
>> > >
>> > >
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Re: Boot loader stuck after first stage upgrading 11.2 to 12.0-RC2

2018-11-29 Thread Toomas Soome
I just did push biosdisk updates to stable/12, I wonder if you could test those 
bits…

rgds,
toomas

> On 29 Nov 2018, at 17:01, Mark Martinec  wrote:
> 
> After successfully upgraded three hosts from 11.2-p4 to 12.0-RC2 (amd64,
> zfs, bios), I tried my luck with one of our production hosts, and ended up
> with a stuck loader after rebooting with a new kernel (after the first
> stage of upgrade).
> 
> These were the steps, and all went smoothly and normally until a reboot:
> 
>  freebsd-update upgrade -r 12.0-RC2
>  freebsd-update install
>  shutdown -r now
> 
> While booting, the 'BTX loader' comes up, lists the BIOS drives,
> then the spinner below the list comes up and begins turning,
> stuttering, and after a couple of seconds it grinds to a standstill
> and nothing happens afterwards.
> 
> At this point the ZFS and the bootstrap loader is supposed to
> come up, but it doesn't.
> 
> This host has too zfs pools, the system pool consists of two SSDs
> in a zfs mirror (also holding a freebsd-boot partition each), the
> other pool is a raidz2 with six JBOD disks on an LSI controller.
> The gptzfsboot in both freebsd-boot partitions is fresh from 11.2,
> both zpool versions are up-to-date with 11.2. The 'zpool status -v'
> is happy with both pools.
> 
> After rebooting from an USB drive and reverting the /boot directory
> to a previous version, the machine comes up normally again
> with the 11.2-RELEASE-p4.
> 
> I found a file init.core in the / directory, slightly predating the
> last reboot with a salvaged system - although it was probably not
> a cause of the problem, but a consequence of the rescue operation.
> 
> It is unfortunate that this is a production host, so I can't play
> much with it. One or two more quick experiments I can probably
> afford, but not much more. Should I just first wait for the
> official 12.0 release? Should I try booting with a 12.0 on USB
> and try to import pools? Suggestions welcome.
> 
> 
> 
> Now that the /boot has been manually restored to the 11.2 state,
> A SECOND QUESTION is about freebsd-update, which still thinks we are
> in the middle of an upgrade procedure. Trying now to just update
> the 11.2-RELEASE-p4 to 11.2-RELEASE-p5, the fetch complains:
> 
>  # uname -a
>  FreeBSD xxx 11.2-RELEASE-p4 FreeBSD 11.2-RELEASE-p4
>  #
>  # freebsd-version
>  11.2-RELEASE-p4
>  #
>  # freebsd-update fetch
>  src component not installed, skipped
>  You have a partially completed upgrade pending
>  Run '/usr/sbin/freebsd-update install' first.
>  Run '/usr/sbin/freebsd-update fetch -F' to proceed anyway.
> 
> So what is the right way to get rid of all traces of the
> unsuccessful upgrade, and let freebsd-update believe we are cleanly
> at 11.2-p4 ?  Removing /var/db/freebsd-update did not help.
> 
>  Mark
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Re: SCSI and dmesg

2018-11-29 Thread Alan Somers
On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 3:57 PM Warner Losh  wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 3:32 PM Maxim Sobolev 
> wrote:
>
> > Somebody needs to make collection/submission automatic and make a port
> out
> > of it, so that it's as easy as pkg install dmesg_survey &&
> > dmesg_survey_enabled="YES" in the /etc/rc.conf. JIMHO. I'd gladly make
> it a
> > default on all dev boxes within our organization. Might also make a nice
> > SoC project idea.
> >
>
> It's barely a weekend hack, since with the curl 1 liner 95% of what you
> want is there.
>
> This service isn't suitable, though, to have it in rc.conf, I don't think,
> unless it's updated only when there's a material change...
>
> And I'd rather we get more nuanced data than dmesg can provide if we were
> to do the data collection. The admonition to submit to this site was one of
> expedience...
>
> Warner
>

Sounds like somebody needs to adopt sysutils/bsdstats.  It's a great start,
but it needs some TLC.


>
>
> > -Max
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 2:08 PM Yuri Pankov  wrote:
> >
> > > Yuri Pankov wrote:
> > > > Warner Losh wrote:
> > > >> Greetings
> > > >>
> > > >> a few weeks ago I pointed people to the nycbug dmesg service. I
> said I
> > > was
> > > >> looking at data to drive SCSI retirement. I've gatherd some
> > preliminary
> > > >> data, which I've uploaded to
> > > >> https://github.com/bsdimp/device-data/blob/master/cam.md along with
> > > some
> > > >> preliminary notions of disposition for the hardware. I'm still
> working
> > > out
> > > >> the kinks in the dmesg parsing, but this is interesting data.
> > > >>
> > > >> If you've not recently submitted, please consider doing so. We'll be
> > > >> finalizing the scsi SIMs that I'm going to propose retiring in 13
> here
> > > in a
> > > >> few weeks, and I'm going to base much of what list I come up with
> > based
> > > on
> > > >> what is submitted. The glitches with FreeBSD dmesgs have been
> cleared
> > > up as
> > > >> well.
> > > >>
> > > >> http://dmesgd.nycbug.org/index.cgi
> > > >>
> > > >> or
> > > >>
> > > >> curl -v -d "nickname=$USER" -d "email=$USER@$(hostname)" -d
> > > >> "description=FreeBSD/$(uname -m) on $(kenv smbios.system.maker)
> $(kenv
> > > >> smbios.system.product)" -d "do=addd" --data-urlencode 'dmesg@
> > > >> /var/run/dmesg.boot' http://dmesgd.nycbug.org/index.cgi
> > > >
> > > > Got another system to submit, but continuously getting "500 Internal
> > > > Server Error" using the curl one-liner.  dmesg.boot attached in case
> > > > it's the source of the problem.
> > >
> > > It works now, sorry for the noise.
> > >
> > >
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Boot loader stuck after first stage upgrading 11.2 to 12.0-RC2

2018-11-29 Thread Mark Martinec

After successfully upgraded three hosts from 11.2-p4 to 12.0-RC2 (amd64,
zfs, bios), I tried my luck with one of our production hosts, and ended 
up

with a stuck loader after rebooting with a new kernel (after the first
stage of upgrade).

These were the steps, and all went smoothly and normally until a reboot:

  freebsd-update upgrade -r 12.0-RC2
  freebsd-update install
  shutdown -r now

While booting, the 'BTX loader' comes up, lists the BIOS drives,
then the spinner below the list comes up and begins turning,
stuttering, and after a couple of seconds it grinds to a standstill
and nothing happens afterwards.

At this point the ZFS and the bootstrap loader is supposed to
come up, but it doesn't.

This host has too zfs pools, the system pool consists of two SSDs
in a zfs mirror (also holding a freebsd-boot partition each), the
other pool is a raidz2 with six JBOD disks on an LSI controller.
The gptzfsboot in both freebsd-boot partitions is fresh from 11.2,
both zpool versions are up-to-date with 11.2. The 'zpool status -v'
is happy with both pools.

After rebooting from an USB drive and reverting the /boot directory
to a previous version, the machine comes up normally again
with the 11.2-RELEASE-p4.

I found a file init.core in the / directory, slightly predating the
last reboot with a salvaged system - although it was probably not
a cause of the problem, but a consequence of the rescue operation.

It is unfortunate that this is a production host, so I can't play
much with it. One or two more quick experiments I can probably
afford, but not much more. Should I just first wait for the
official 12.0 release? Should I try booting with a 12.0 on USB
and try to import pools? Suggestions welcome.



Now that the /boot has been manually restored to the 11.2 state,
A SECOND QUESTION is about freebsd-update, which still thinks we are
in the middle of an upgrade procedure. Trying now to just update
the 11.2-RELEASE-p4 to 11.2-RELEASE-p5, the fetch complains:

  # uname -a
  FreeBSD xxx 11.2-RELEASE-p4 FreeBSD 11.2-RELEASE-p4
  #
  # freebsd-version
  11.2-RELEASE-p4
  #
  # freebsd-update fetch
  src component not installed, skipped
  You have a partially completed upgrade pending
  Run '/usr/sbin/freebsd-update install' first.
  Run '/usr/sbin/freebsd-update fetch -F' to proceed anyway.

So what is the right way to get rid of all traces of the
unsuccessful upgrade, and let freebsd-update believe we are cleanly
at 11.2-p4 ?  Removing /var/db/freebsd-update did not help.

  Mark
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Re: Fujitsu Lifebook E751 (iGPU: HM65): distorted console with UEFI boot

2018-11-29 Thread Gunther Nikl
O. Hartmann  wrote:
> The notebook seems UEFI only and doesn't boot off from MBR partioned
> devices (i.e. NanoBSD I used to use).

AFAICT, BIOS style boot should be possible with the named laptop. Is CSM
enabled within the Firmware?

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