Re: GPT boot has less features than legacy MBR-based one (Was: UEFI, loader.efi and /boot.config)

2019-01-19 Thread Lev Serebryakov
Hello Rebecca, Saturday, January 19, 2019, 6:06:52 PM, you wrote: > Ok, I've checked my desktop Asus Z170-A, but it is graphical and I could > not find or understand anything in this home-rown UI with crazy-fast mouse. > On ASUS systems you normally press F8 during POST to bring up the boot

Re: GPT boot has less features than legacy MBR-based one (Was: UEFI, loader.efi and /boot.config)

2019-01-19 Thread Warner Losh
On Sat, Jan 19, 2019 at 9:32 AM Rodney W. Grimes < freebsd-...@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net> wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 19, 2019 at 9:00 AM Rodney W. Grimes < > > freebsd-...@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On January 19, 2019 at 2:52:28 AM, Lev Serebryakov (l...@freebsd.org > > >

Re: Multiport serial card Exsys EX-44388, where are the devices ?

2019-01-19 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> Hi! > > > uart is the new thing. sio info should be ignored. > > > > Chances are good that this device doesn't have the proper entries in the > > puc driver. Do you have any pci devices that show up as unclaimed? > > In a different box, I got this: > > none1@pci0:7:4:0: class=0x070002

Re: Multiport serial card Exsys EX-44388, where are the devices ?

2019-01-19 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> Hi! > > > uart2: <16550 or compatible> port 0x3e8-0x3ef irq 10 on acpi0 > > Ah, that is a false lead. > > I compared it to a second, similar hardware and there I found the same uart2, > even if no card was installed 8-( > > So it seems the card is not detected at all 8-( Need to find out

Re: GPT boot has less features than legacy MBR-based one (Was: UEFI, loader.efi and /boot.config)

2019-01-19 Thread Karl Denninger
On 1/19/2019 10:32, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: >> .. > The BIOS does NOT do what our boot0 does, I have seen no BIOS that > well allow me to select a partition on a drive, you can only select > the drive. > > I think this is the feature that Lev is missing, and I am sure > others shall miss it

Re: GPT boot has less features than legacy MBR-based one (Was: UEFI, loader.efi and /boot.config)

2019-01-19 Thread Toomas Soome
> On 19 Jan 2019, at 11:52, Lev Serebryakov wrote: > > Hello Warner, > > Saturday, January 19, 2019, 12:17:29 AM, you wrote: > >> Also most UEFI BIOSes I've used (which isn't a lot) allow one to choose >> which Boot variable to use to boot. Some will even create new Boot >>

Re: Multiport serial card Exsys EX-44388, where are the devices ?

2019-01-19 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> On Sat, Jan 19, 2019 at 2:52 AM Kurt Jaeger wrote: > > > Hi! > > > > > uart is the new thing. sio info should be ignored. > > > > > > Chances are good that this device doesn't have the proper entries in the > > > puc driver. Do you have any pci devices that show up as unclaimed? > > > > In a

Re: GPT boot has less features than legacy MBR-based one (Was: UEFI, loader.efi and /boot.config)

2019-01-19 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> On Sat, Jan 19, 2019 at 9:00 AM Rodney W. Grimes < > freebsd-...@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net> wrote: > > > > > > > On January 19, 2019 at 2:52:28 AM, Lev Serebryakov (l...@freebsd.org > > (mailto:l...@freebsd.org)) wrote: > > > > > > > I have never seen such item in BIOS Setup. I've checked two

Re: Multiport serial card Exsys EX-44388, where are the devices ?

2019-01-19 Thread Warner Losh
On Sat, Jan 19, 2019 at 2:52 AM Kurt Jaeger wrote: > Hi! > > > uart is the new thing. sio info should be ignored. > > > > Chances are good that this device doesn't have the proper entries in the > > puc driver. Do you have any pci devices that show up as unclaimed? > > In a different box, I got

Re: GPT boot has less features than legacy MBR-based one (Was: UEFI, loader.efi and /boot.config)

2019-01-19 Thread Warner Losh
On Sat, Jan 19, 2019 at 9:00 AM Rodney W. Grimes < freebsd-...@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net> wrote: > > > > On January 19, 2019 at 2:52:28 AM, Lev Serebryakov (l...@freebsd.org > (mailto:l...@freebsd.org)) wrote: > > > > > I have never seen such item in BIOS Setup. I've checked two MoBos now > (one is

Re: GPT boot has less features than legacy MBR-based one (Was: UEFI, loader.efi and /boot.config)

2019-01-19 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> > On January 19, 2019 at 2:52:28 AM, Lev Serebryakov > (l...@freebsd.org(mailto:l...@freebsd.org)) wrote: > > > I have never seen such item in BIOS Setup. I've checked two MoBos now (one > > is > > Supermicro X9something and other is brand-new Goldmont-based Chinese MiniPC > > like Intel

Re: Multiport serial card Exsys EX-44388, where are the devices ?

2019-01-19 Thread Kurt Jaeger
Hi! > uart is the new thing. sio info should be ignored. > > Chances are good that this device doesn't have the proper entries in the > puc driver. Do you have any pci devices that show up as unclaimed? In a different box, I got this: none1@pci0:7:4:0: class=0x070002 card=0x000814a1

Re: GPT boot has less features than legacy MBR-based one (Was: UEFI, loader.efi and /boot.config)

2019-01-19 Thread Lev Serebryakov
Hello Tomoaki, Saturday, January 19, 2019, 4:42:21 AM, you wrote: > I should note that 512-bytes boot0 doesn't have that feature. > What had it WAS larger boot0ext, which has already gone on stable/11 > and later. IIRC, sysinstall let me select which to install on MBR. It has, look at

Re: GPT boot has less features than legacy MBR-based one (Was: UEFI, loader.efi and /boot.config)

2019-01-19 Thread Rebecca Cran
On January 19, 2019 at 2:52:28 AM, Lev Serebryakov (l...@freebsd.org(mailto:l...@freebsd.org)) wrote: > I have never seen such item in BIOS Setup. I've checked two MoBos now (one is > Supermicro X9something and other is brand-new Goldmont-based Chinese MiniPC > like Intel NUK): both have one

Re: GPT boot has less features than legacy MBR-based one (Was: UEFI, loader.efi and /boot.config)

2019-01-19 Thread Lev Serebryakov
Hello Emmanuel, Saturday, January 19, 2019, 12:10:13 AM, you wrote: > With UEFI Boot* variable you could do : > - Update previous partition and set BootNext to it > - If it fail next boot will be on current partition due to BootOrder > - If it succeed, change the BootOrder to have the new

Re: Multiport serial card Exsys EX-44388, where are the devices ?

2019-01-19 Thread Kurt Jaeger
Hi! > uart2: <16550 or compatible> port 0x3e8-0x3ef irq 10 on acpi0 Ah, that is a false lead. I compared it to a second, similar hardware and there I found the same uart2, even if no card was installed 8-( So it seems the card is not detected at all 8-( -- p...@opsec.eu+49 171

Re: GPT boot has less features than legacy MBR-based one (Was: UEFI, loader.efi and /boot.config)

2019-01-19 Thread Lev Serebryakov
Hello Warner, Saturday, January 19, 2019, 12:17:29 AM, you wrote: > Also most UEFI BIOSes I've used (which isn't a lot) allow one to choose > which Boot variable to use to boot. Some will even create new Boot > variables that they use when you choose a raw device to boot from. I have

Re: Multiport serial card Exsys EX-44388, where are the devices ?

2019-01-19 Thread Kurt Jaeger
Hi! > > Trying to get a 8-port serial PCIe card into operation (Exsys EX-44388). > > After reboot, dmesg shows: > > > > uart2: <16550 or compatible> port 0x3e8-0x3ef irq 10 on acpi0 [...] > uart is the new thing. sio info should be ignored. > > Chances are good that this device doesn't have the

Re: GPT boot has less features than legacy MBR-based one (Was: UEFI, loader.efi and /boot.config)

2019-01-19 Thread O. Hartmann
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Am Fri, 18 Jan 2019 14:17:29 -0700 Warner Losh schrieb: > On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 2:11 PM Emmanuel Vadot > wrote: > > > On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 22:50:31 +0300 > > Lev Serebryakov wrote: > > > > > On 18.01.2019 22:35, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > >

Re: UEFI, loader.efi and /boot.config

2019-01-19 Thread Rebecca Cran
On Thursday, 17 January 2019 20:02:46 MST David Wolfskill wrote: > Does the above only apply to UEFI booting, or also to booting from > BIOS/MBR? It's only for UEFI booting. -- Rebecca Cran signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: UEFI, loader.efi and /boot.config

2019-01-19 Thread Rebecca Cran
On Friday, 18 January 2019 00:48:02 MST Kurt Jaeger wrote: > > With a recent change I made for UEFI, we now install loader.efi onto the > > ESP and don???t run boot1. That means that /boot.config is no longer > > read, and so console settings need to be put in /boot/loader.conf > Which change is

Re: GPT boot has less features than legacy MBR-based one (Was: UEFI, loader.efi and /boot.config)

2019-01-19 Thread Tomoaki AOKI
On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 22:44:28 +0300 Lev Serebryakov wrote: > On 18.01.2019 22:27, Warner Losh wrote: > > > > errm.. you press a key and enter device and or loader path. if it > > is not working - the code is there to be fixed. > > 〓And loader looks to "bootme" attribute and try to