Re: noatime on ufs2

2024-01-11 Thread Mark Millard
Rodney W. Grimes wrote on Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2024 17:15:19 UTC : > > Am 2024-01-10 22:49, schrieb Mark Millard: > > > > > I never use atime, always noatime, for UFS. That said, I'd never > > > propose > > > changing the long standing defaults for commands and calls. I'd avoid: > > > > [good

Re: noatime on ufs2

2024-01-11 Thread Warner Losh
On Thu, Jan 11, 2024 at 6:59 AM Mike Karels wrote: > On 11 Jan 2024, at 7:30, Miroslav Lachman wrote: > > > On 11/01/2024 09:54, Tomoaki AOKI wrote: > >> On Thu, 11 Jan 2024 08:36:24 +0100 > >> Alexander Leidinger wrote: > > > > [..] > > > >>> There's one possibility which nobody talked about

Re: noatime on ufs2

2024-01-11 Thread Jamie Landeg-Jones
Olivier Certner wrote: > Both the examples above prompt some straight objections on the current > usefulness of "atime". First, unless you've disabled building the locate > database in cron (enabled by default, on a weekly basis), access times on > directories lose most of their usefulness.

Re: noatime on ufs2

2024-01-11 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> Am 2024-01-10 22:49, schrieb Mark Millard: > > > I never use atime, always noatime, for UFS. That said, I'd never > > propose > > changing the long standing defaults for commands and calls. I'd avoid: > > [good points I fully agree on] > > There's one possibility which nobody talked about

Re: noatime on ufs2

2024-01-11 Thread Mike Karels
On 11 Jan 2024, at 7:30, Miroslav Lachman wrote: > On 11/01/2024 09:54, Tomoaki AOKI wrote: >> On Thu, 11 Jan 2024 08:36:24 +0100 >> Alexander Leidinger wrote: > > [..] > >>> There's one possibility which nobody talked about yet... changing the >>> default to noatime at install time in fstab /

Re: noatime on ufs2

2024-01-11 Thread Miroslav Lachman
On 11/01/2024 09:54, Tomoaki AOKI wrote: On Thu, 11 Jan 2024 08:36:24 +0100 Alexander Leidinger wrote: [..] There's one possibility which nobody talked about yet... changing the default to noatime at install time in fstab / zfs set. I fully agree to not violate POLA by changing the default

Re: poudriere: swap_pager: out of swap space

2024-01-11 Thread void
On Thu, Jan 11, 2024 at 02:21:19AM +, Lexi Winter wrote: hi list, i'm having a recurring problem with poudriere that i hope someone might have an idea about. i'm building packages with poudriere on a system with 32GB memory, with tmpfs and md disabled in poudriere (so it's using ZFS only)

Re: poudriere: swap_pager: out of swap space

2024-01-11 Thread Ronald Klop
On 1/11/24 03:21, Lexi Winter wrote: hi list, i'm having a recurring problem with poudriere that i hope someone might have an idea about. i'm building packages with poudriere on a system with 32GB memory, with tmpfs and md disabled in poudriere (so it's using ZFS only) and with the ZFS ARC

Re: poudriere: swap_pager: out of swap space

2024-01-11 Thread Tomoaki AOKI
On Thu, 11 Jan 2024 02:21:19 + Lexi Winter wrote: > hi list, > > i'm having a recurring problem with poudriere that i hope someone might > have an idea about. > > i'm building packages with poudriere on a system with 32GB memory, with > tmpfs and md disabled in poudriere (so it's using ZFS

Re: noatime on ufs2

2024-01-11 Thread Tomoaki AOKI
On Thu, 11 Jan 2024 08:36:24 +0100 Alexander Leidinger wrote: > Am 2024-01-10 22:49, schrieb Mark Millard: > > > I never use atime, always noatime, for UFS. That said, I'd never > > propose > > changing the long standing defaults for commands and calls. I'd avoid: > > [good points I fully