Re: noatime on ufs2

2024-01-30 Thread Cy Schubert
In message <3f6cf45c-3d34-4da6-9b81-337eb70bb...@karels.net>, Mike Karels write s: > On 30 Jan 2024, at 15:48, Cy Schubert wrote: > > > In message c > > om> > > , Rick Macklem writes: > >> On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 10:49=E2=80=AFAM Mike Karels wro > t= > >> e: > >>> > >>> On 30 Jan 2024, at 3:00,

Re: noatime on ufs2

2024-01-30 Thread Mike Karels
On 30 Jan 2024, at 15:48, Cy Schubert wrote: > In message om> > , Rick Macklem writes: >> On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 10:49=E2=80=AFAM Mike Karels wrot= >> e: >>> >>> On 30 Jan 2024, at 3:00, Olivier Certner wrote: >>> Hi Warner, > I strongly oppose this notion to control this from

Re: noatime on ufs2

2024-01-30 Thread Cy Schubert
In message , Rick Macklem writes: > On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 10:49=E2=80=AFAM Mike Karels wrot= > e: > > > > On 30 Jan 2024, at 3:00, Olivier Certner wrote: > > > > > Hi Warner, > > > > > >> I strongly oppose this notion to control this from loader.conf. Root i= > s > > >> mounted read-only, so

Re: noatime on ufs2

2024-01-30 Thread Rick Macklem
On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 10:49 AM Mike Karels wrote: > > On 30 Jan 2024, at 3:00, Olivier Certner wrote: > > > Hi Warner, > > > >> I strongly oppose this notion to control this from loader.conf. Root is > >> mounted read-only, so it doesn't matter. That's why I liked Mike's > >> suggestion: root

Re: noatime on ufs2

2024-01-30 Thread Mike Karels
On 30 Jan 2024, at 3:00, Olivier Certner wrote: > Hi Warner, > >> I strongly oppose this notion to control this from loader.conf. Root is >> mounted read-only, so it doesn't matter. That's why I liked Mike's >> suggestion: root isn't special. > > Then in fact there is nothing to oppose. You've

Re: 'poweroff' seems to (only) halt as of main-n267841-0b3f9e435f2b

2024-01-30 Thread Gary Jennejohn
On Tue, 30 Jan 2024 08:12:23 -0800 David Wolfskill wrote: > On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 03:49:54PM +, Gary Jennejohn wrote: > > ... > > I use 'shutdown -p now' and it's never failed to power down my computers. > > > > I could say the same about "poweroff", up to the

Re: 'poweroff' seems to (only) halt as of main-n267841-0b3f9e435f2b

2024-01-30 Thread David Wolfskill
On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 03:49:54PM +, Gary Jennejohn wrote: > ... > I use 'shutdown -p now' and it's never failed to power down my computers. > I could say the same about "poweroff", up to the main-n267808-197944948e62 -> main-n267841-0b3f9e435f2b transition. And I probably wouldn't

Re: 'poweroff' seems to (only) halt as of main-n267841-0b3f9e435f2b

2024-01-30 Thread Gary Jennejohn
On Tue, 30 Jan 2024 07:10:45 -0800 David Wolfskill wrote: > On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 03:56:16PM +0100, Tomek CEDRO wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 3:49?PM David Wolfskill wrote: > > > The machines where I track head (& stable/14) daily get powered off once > > > they have finished their work

Re: 'poweroff' seems to (only) halt as of main-n267841-0b3f9e435f2b

2024-01-30 Thread David Wolfskill
On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 03:56:16PM +0100, Tomek CEDRO wrote: > On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 3:49 PM David Wolfskill wrote: > > The machines where I track head (& stable/14) daily get powered off once > > they have finished their work for the day; this is done via "poweroff". > > > > I noticed (this

Re: 'poweroff' seems to (only) halt as of main-n267841-0b3f9e435f2b

2024-01-30 Thread Tomek CEDRO
On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 3:49 PM David Wolfskill wrote: > The machines where I track head (& stable/14) daily get powered off once > they have finished their work for the day; this is done via "poweroff". > > I noticed (this morning) that one of them never actually powered off > yesterday. After

'poweroff' seems to (only) halt as of main-n267841-0b3f9e435f2b

2024-01-30 Thread David Wolfskill
The machines where I track head (& stable/14) daily get powered off once they have finished their work for the day; this is done via "poweroff". I noticed (this morning) that one of them never actually powered off yesterday. After today's exercises (including the reboot & subsequent poweroff), I

Re: noatime on ufs2

2024-01-30 Thread Olivier Certner
> In the current situation, I can back using '/etc/fstab', or probably better, > '/usr/local/etc/fstab' to hold default mount options, but I'm strongly > opposing a pure userland implementation as long as my objections above are > not addressed properly. Typo, '/usr/local/etc/fstab' should

Re: noatime on ufs2

2024-01-30 Thread Olivier Certner
Hi Warner, > I strongly oppose this notion to control this from loader.conf. Root is > mounted read-only, so it doesn't matter. That's why I liked Mike's > suggestion: root isn't special. Then in fact there is nothing to oppose. You've just said yourself that root is mounted first read-only.