Re: panic: blockable sleep lock (sx) allproc @ /usr/local/src/sys/kern/kern_proc.c:212

2001-10-07 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Sun, 7 Oct 2001 14:49:16 +1000 (EST), Bruce Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Is using xconsole significantly better than tail -f /var/log/messages? I don't know. I think `xterm -C' is better than either one, if it can be made to work properly. (I have held off on updating to latest -current

spam

2001-12-20 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 20:46:16 -0600, Joe Halpin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Is this just a normal part of being on the list? Yes, lots of spammers spew at FreeBSD mailing-lists. If you can identify a persistent source of spam, the postmaster is fairly responsive in filtering them. -GAWollman To

Re: Processes hanging in ``inode' state

2002-01-28 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Sat, 26 Jan 2002 19:08:04 +0100 (CET), [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I noticed it since last summer, too. Using both vi and vile. I have not seen it recently. My most recent crashes all involve triple-faults. A new machine, running very fresh -current, hasn't been up for long enough to evoke

Two recent lock order reversals

2002-01-29 Thread Garrett Wollman
Sources about a week old: 1st 0xc4074c34 filedesc structure @ ../../../kern/kern_descrip.c:925 2nd 0xc03946e0 Giant @ ../../../kern/kern_descrip.c:959 1st 0xc3f3dd00 pcm0 @ ../../../dev/sound/pcm/sound.c:132 2nd 0xc3f3db40 pcm0:play:0 @ ../../../dev/sound/pcm/sound.c:189 -GAWollman To

Support for atapi cdrw as scsi in -current?

2002-02-03 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Sat, 02 Feb 2002 20:10:20 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I noticed a patch on freebsd-scsi a while back that added a not very complete form of atapi as scsi support to the freebsd kernel. Are there plans to complete this and add it to -current sometime before -current turns into

Re: function name collision on getcontext with ports/editors/joe

2002-02-11 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Mon, 11 Feb 2002 12:16:44 -0500 (EST), Daniel Eischen [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: How do you easily forward declare something that is a typedef? There is a reason style(9) says not to use such typedefs. Unfortunately, this one it written into a standard. Since We Are The Implementation, there

rdr 127.0.0.1 and blocking 127/8 in ip_output()

2002-02-13 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Wed, 13 Feb 2002 11:03:47 +0200, Ruslan Ermilov [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Please test with and without this patch. I continue to believe that this should be done by fixing the routing, not by adding additional hacks to the already-bloated ip_output() path. -GAWollman To Unsubscribe: send

Re: rdr 127.0.0.1 and blocking 127/8 in ip_output()

2002-02-13 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Wed, 13 Feb 2002 17:58:51 +0200, Ruslan Ermilov [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: RFC1122 requires the host to not send 127/8 addresses out of loopback, whether or not its routes are set up correctly. As we have already seen, there is not consensus on this particular issue, or on the general issue

Re: rdr 127.0.0.1 and blocking 127/8 in ip_output()

2002-02-14 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Thu, 14 Feb 2002 11:09:41 +0200, Ruslan Ermilov [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: ping -s 127.1 1.2.3.4 telnet -S 127.1 1.2.3.4 If someone explicitly overrides source-address selection, they are presumed to know WTF they are doing, and the kernel should not be trying to second-guess them.

Journaling Filesystem ?

2000-07-21 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Fri, 21 Jul 2000 14:58:43 -0500, "Thomas T. Veldhouse" [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Are there plans for something along this line for FreeBSD? Is there a project underway? No. Soft Updates provides most of the benefits without requiring changes to the on-disk layout. See

Re[2]: Journaling Filesystem ?

2000-07-23 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Sun, 23 Jul 2000 13:43:41 -0700 (PDT), Joe McGuckin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: With Softupdates, you still have to fsck. On a large FS (say half a terabyte) that can take hours. No you don't. Please read the paper. -GAWollman To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with

Re: Re[2]: Journaling Filesystem ?

2000-07-23 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Sun, 23 Jul 2000 17:31:24 -0700, "Brian O'Shea" [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I didn't even know that background fsck was supported at all. I remember hearing Kirk talk about it as a future feature at FreeBSD CON last year, but I havn't heard anything about it since. How do you use it? It is

Re: sendmail 8.11.0 trouble

2000-07-30 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Sun, 30 Jul 2000 09:11:52 +0200 (CEST), Leif Neland [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Sunday, July 30, 2000, Leif Neland wrote: Sendmail 8.11.0 When invoking sendmail or newaliases I get this message: /etc/pwd.db: Invalid argument Sendmail can't read /etc/pwd.db, and therefore cannot

Re: sendmail 8.11.0 trouble

2000-08-01 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Tue, 1 Aug 2000 07:54:34 +0200, Ollivier Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: According to Leif Neland: /etc/pwd.db: Berkeley DB Hash file (Version 2, Little Endian, Bucket Size /etc/pwd.db should NOT be in DB 2.x format. Recompile pwd_mkdb to be sure to use DB 1.85 and use it to regenerate

inheriting certificate trust

2000-08-08 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Tue, 8 Aug 2000 07:33:54 +0200 (CEST), Leif Neland [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I've used this certificate to sign a new certificate, and Microsoft recognizes it and the trust chain, and will use it for verifying the servers identity, but not for mail. My guess is that (regardless of the

Re: LINT doesn't compile

2000-08-17 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Thu, 17 Aug 2000 17:44:09 -0700 (PDT), Archie Cobbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Somebody remind me again why we don't make memcmp(), memset(), and memmove() available in the kernel? To keep the compiler from pessimizing them. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | O Siem / We are all family /

Re: make buildworld br0ken in libutil

2000-08-22 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Tue, 22 Aug 2000 17:53:09 +0200, Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: -On [2822 17:30], Ollivier Robert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Brian, I'm afraid you broke libutil... Every program using libutil now must depend on libcrypt too. No. This is precisely why shared

Re: yarrow /dev/random

2000-08-26 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Sun, 27 Aug 2000 00:42:59 -0500, Adam Back [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: You probably don't want to chose RC6 or MARS because their authors will probably patent them if they lose, and then you'll have to back off using them fast. If they were going to be patented, the application has already

Proposal to clarify mbuf handling rules

2000-08-27 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Sun, 27 Aug 2000 14:25:55 -0700 (PDT), Archie Cobbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: However, many routines that take an mbuf parameter assume that the mbuf given to them is modifiable and proceed to write all over it. s/assume/require as a necessary precondition/ It's not a coding error, it's

Re: USA_RESIDENT variable is no longer needed ?

2000-09-07 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Thu, 7 Sep 2000 00:23:22 -0700 (PDT), Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Moreover, can we also throw USA_RESIDENT variable away from ports ? Perhaps..I'm not immediately sure. This is almost certainly not the last patent issue we'll have to deal with. Unfortunately, it is probably the

Re: Another broken buildworld

2000-09-13 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Sun, 10 Sep 2000 21:02:28 -0400, Jim Bloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Garrett, now that RSA has released the patent, would you be willing to add this file to the mirror on cvsup3? I have asked MIT's Technology Licensing Office what their position is in this regard, and hope to have an answer

Re: Fdescfs updates--coming to a devfs near you!

2000-09-14 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Thu, 14 Sep 2000 11:48:58 +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I must admit that I think in general that /dev/std{in,out,err} and /dev/fd is bogus. It looks like something which happened "because we can" more than something which has a legitimate need. It's required if we

cvsup3 now carries rsa_eay.c

2000-09-14 Thread Garrett Wollman
MIT's Technology Licensing Office has given me the OK to distribute rsa_eay.c, so it will now be available from cvsup3.freebsd.org (aka freebsd.lcs.mit.edu). -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | O Siem / We are all family / O Siem / We're all the same [EMAIL PROTECTED] | O Siem / The fires of

Re: SMPNG kernel on UP

2000-09-14 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Thu, 14 Sep 2000 13:46:44 -0600, Warner Losh [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hmmm, they look good to me. Maybe Mark's system doesn't have group operator at gid 5. That's one bad thing about the new DEVFS: it appears to enshrine things like this in the kernel... It would only take a small amount

Re: SMPNG kernel on UP

2000-09-14 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Thu, 14 Sep 2000 16:42:00 -0400 (EDT), I wrote: It would only take a small amount of Makefile magic to fix this... something like: perl -ne 'split(/:/); print ("#define\tUID_", uc($_[0]), "\t", \ $_[2], "\n");' ${PASSWD} ${.TARGET} Oh, I forgot

Permissions for /var/mail

2000-09-22 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Sat, 23 Sep 2000 00:15:31 +0200 (CEST), Leif Neland [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Pine 4.21 complains that /var/mail is vulnerable, that the perms should be 1777 Pine is a steaming, festering pile of Let's try that again. The developers of Pine have certain erroneous ideas about how mail

Re: mtree again

2000-09-23 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Sat, 23 Sep 2000 16:02:48 -0700, Marcel Moolenaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Is their any harm in just keeping the -P flag as a no-op and optionally remove it at some later time (for backward compatibility)? We should try to be consistent with POSIX.1-200x as much as possible. -GAWollman

Re: pw_class in _pw_passwd is null if __hashpw() is not called in prior

2000-09-28 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Thu, 28 Sep 2000 22:50:53 +0900, Seigo Tanimura [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Here is another possible trouble. While libc.so.4 with nsswitch no longer requires the magic '+' entry, libc.so.3 and earlier still require '+'. IMHO, This Is A Bug. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | O Siem / We

mtree verification output format

2000-10-02 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Mon, 02 Oct 2000 23:53:28 +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: make "extra" and "missing" attributes in the output rather than prefixes which can be confused with filenames. Don't do the "run-in" of the first attribute with a short filename This looks

TI1225 CardBus controller

2000-10-05 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Thu, 5 Oct 2000 11:37:02 +0200 (CEST), Blaz Zupan [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: From reading the mailing list archives, I figured that the TI1225 driver does actually work in some laptops, because the BIOS does some magic initialization which the driver misses when running on a non-laptop box.

cvs servers load

2000-10-07 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Sat, 07 Oct 2000 07:59:08 -0700, Dennis Glatting [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Any running load information on the CVS servers available? I keep stats for cvsup3 (thanks to cricket and ucd-snmp). cvsup3 peaks out in the early morning with a five-minute load between 12 and 17. Rarely does the

Re: more endian.h breakage; patch included.

2000-10-18 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Mon, 16 Oct 2000 16:23:43 +1100 (EST), Bruce Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: It is strictly correct for POSIX.1-1990, but FreeBSD-2 never had the requirement until now. POSIX.1-200x is relaxing similar requirements (I'm not sure about this one), so it is too late to start enforcing it.

Re: make release breakage on today's -current

2000-10-24 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Tue, 24 Oct 2000 08:15:12 -0500, Will Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I agree with this sentiment.. please leave INET6 support in the GENERIC kernel. I'm sure there are better things to disable, like MFS, SYSV*, P1003_P1B and friends, and ICMP_BANDLIM. Um, let's only disable things that

Re: new rc.network6 and rc.firewall6

2000-10-25 Thread Garrett Wollman
Grrr !@#$^ Reply-To:... On Wed, 25 Oct 2000 13:01:04 -0700, "David O'Brien" [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Nope. All the /etc/rc.d/ files are scanned by `rcorder'. `rcorder' then creates a dependacy graph from information in each /etc/rc.d/ file. A walk of the graph is done to output the

Re: new rc.network6 and rc.firewall6

2000-10-25 Thread Garrett Wollman
Grrr !@#%$^ Reply-To: header On Wed, 25 Oct 2000 13:13:53 -0700, "David O'Brien" [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: (i.e., a topological sort). Does `rcorder' call `tsort' or does it reinvent the wheel? UTSL You could have simply answered the question. For the benefit of everyone else: yes,

Re: XFree86 3.3.6_3 build dies on -current

2000-10-26 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Thu, 26 Oct 2000 13:58:09 -0400, Marcel Moolenaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Eventually yes, but not this way. According to Bruce sys/types is a prerequisite for sys/wait. This is currently true, but should be fixed this year (probably not this month -- it depends on how much energy I have).

Re: ABI is broken??

2000-11-01 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Wed, 01 Nov 2000 21:09:12 +0200, Maxim Sobolev [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Huh, why we can't just bump libc_r version number and put older (buggy) version into lib/compat as usually? This would not require any ugly hacks at all. If you want to bump libc_r's version, we should do it to libc as

Re: ABI is broken??

2000-11-01 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Wed, 1 Nov 2000 14:43:55 -0800, "David O'Brien" [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Any reason to not get [libc ABI changes] in -current now and make the bump? Mostly because they're too small to be worth the pain. I'm waiting for something more significant that I can piggy-back on. -GAWollman --

Re: ABI is broken??

2000-11-05 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Sun, 5 Nov 2000 13:51:09 +0100, Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I also gather it has to do with the Austin project Garrett? Yes and no. The errors have been there since the beginning of time, but I actually noticed them doing review of our implementation wrt the new

Interrupt allocation

2000-11-09 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Thu, 9 Nov 2000 19:31:26 +1100 (EST), Bruce Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: - pci drivers "know" that pci interrupts are shareable and force RF_SHAREABLE. Is this required by the pci spec? Yes. - the isa compatibility code and pcvt force RF_SHAREABLE although isa irqs are rarely

Re: Proper permissons on /var/mail

2000-11-16 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Thu, 16 Nov 2000 15:18:09 +, void [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I have a similar problem -- every time I make world, perms on /var/mail get set to 775. Mutt considers my mailbox read-only until I change it to 1777. It is misconfigured (or perhaps just broken). 1777 mode for /var/mail is

Re: RFC: /dev/console - /var/log/messages idea/patch

2000-11-22 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Wed, 22 Nov 2000 22:22:39 +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Another particular thing I remember was that some syslog-challenged daemons whine on /dev/console long after /etc/rc has finished. They can try, but by the time they do the console has already been revoke()d, so

Re: RFC: /dev/console - /var/log/messages idea/patch

2000-11-22 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Wed, 22 Nov 2000 23:44:12 +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Garrett Wollman write They can try, but by the time they do the console has already been revoke()d, so they no longer have access to the real console. I don't know what you consider

Re: Confusing error messages from shell image activation

2000-11-24 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Thu, 23 Nov 2000 23:39:07 -0600 (CST), Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Um - compliance with what, exactly? IEEE Std.1003.1-1990 et seq. -GAWollman To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: Confusing error messages from shell image activation

2000-12-09 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Sat, 9 Dec 2000 12:32:01 -0600 (CST), Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: There are other places where FreeBSD doesn't comply with the appropriate standard - packages vs. FHS I have never heard of ``FHS''. What is its ANSI, FIPS, IEEE, IEC, or ISO number? -GAWollman To Unsubscribe:

Re: Confusing error messages from shell image activation

2000-12-10 Thread Garrett Wollman
[Please watch your carbon copies!] On Sun, 10 Dec 2000 09:37:53 -0600 (CST), Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: However, FreeBSD is still the only vendor distribution I know of that installs software in /usr/local. That's the problem - software that comes from the vendor doesn't belong in

Making {open,close,read,tell,seek}dir thread-safe.

2000-12-10 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Mon, 04 Dec 2000 16:11:39 -0500, Dan Eischen [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I started a cleanup of libc to make it thread-safe. Just as a matter of information The seekdir/telldir interface was debated recently by the Austin Group. The Open Group wanted to include it as part of the XSI

Re: /boot/kernel/kernel: swap_pager_getswapspace: failed

2001-01-13 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Sat, 13 Jan 2001 01:46:46 +1030, Matthew Thyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: No I want mfs to grow and shrink its filesystem dynamically. MFS has never done so. MFS is simply a UFS which uses (swap-backed) memory instead of a physical disk; it relies on the filesystem to avoid touching blocks

Re: Atomic breakage?

2001-01-17 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Wed, 17 Jan 2001 14:26:54 +1100, Peter Jeremy [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: To support multiple masters, you need proper locks. On older processors, yes. On processors with the CX8 feature bit set, you can do it without any sort of locking (indeed, this is a primitive that semaphores can be

Re: Atomic breakage?

2001-01-17 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Tue, 16 Jan 2001 19:10:10 -0800, Alfred Perlstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Just wondering, can't you use 'LOCK addl' and then use 'LOCK addc'? add longword, add longword with carry? I know it would be pretty ugly, but it should work, no? The two bus cycles are independent, so there is a

Re: Atomic breakage?

2001-01-17 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Wed, 17 Jan 2001 10:28:03 -0800 (PST), John Baldwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: person was referring to: on Pentiums with stepping 0xc, a cmpxchg8b that crosses a page boundary triggers an illegel opcode fault rather than a page fault if the second page is missing. This is (part of) the

Re: Atomic breakage?

2001-01-17 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Thu, 18 Jan 2001 07:06:09 +1100, Peter Jeremy [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: There are SMP machines using both 386 and 486 processors. There is no support in FreeBSD for SMP on pre-Pentium processors. Yes, I well recall the Sequent. I wish for it to remain a memory. -GAWollman To

Re: excessive paranoia in syslogd(8)?

2001-01-22 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Sat, 20 Jan 2001 21:20:39 -0800, "Crist J. Clark" [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: If you want to or need to use network sockets, # syslogd -a localhost Should provide the behavior you want. I.e., no security whatsoever. -GAWollman To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with

sys/time.h w/ timespec stuff

2001-01-22 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Sun, 21 Jan 2001 01:13:26 -0500, Will Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: So now, maybe someone can answer my question: why is timespec _KERNEL? It's not. Some of the namespace pollution associated with it is. -GAWollman To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe

RE: Cannot build emulators/vmware2

2001-01-22 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Sun, 21 Jan 2001 22:39:56 -0800 (PST), John Baldwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: work on stable, just do a #ifdef __FreeBSD_version 4 use selinfo, else use select.h. Make that: #if __FreeBSD_version = 500014 #include sys/selinfo.h #else #include sys/select.h #endif -GAWollman -- Garrett A.

Re: current panics in mount(2)

2001-01-22 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Mon, 22 Jan 2001 10:54:04 -0800, Alfred Perlstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I looked at fixing this once, but got scared off because of binary compatibility issues. Would 'fixing' mount to use cmsgcred be acceptable? No, it should use a structure appropriately named and designed for its

patch for test: /etc/shells - /usr/local/etc/shells

2001-01-26 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Fri, 26 Jan 2001 22:08:20 +0100, "Steve O'Hara-Smith" [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: The patch below (against 4-stable but it will probably apply easily to -current) moves /etc/shells to /usr/local/etc/shells. Bad idea. No base component (never mind libc!) should hard-code a pathname in

Re: /etc/shells #include syntax support patch

2001-01-29 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Sun, 28 Jan 2001 19:02:27 -0600, "Jacques A. Vidrine" [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I would rather that a separate configuration file be read, for example, with a list of shells(5) format files to consult. I would rather have a single file, located in a directory intended for configuration

Re: duplicate -ffreestanding in kernel build

2002-06-15 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Sat, 15 Jun 2002 12:49:29 -0700, Maxime Henrion [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: IIRC, -ffreestanding prevented GCC3 from being stupid optimizations like `-ffreestanding' tells the compiler that it is to operate as a free-standing implementation (in the words of the C standard); i.e., that there is

additional queue macro

2002-07-02 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Tue, 2 Jul 2002 09:54:02 -0500, Jonathan Lemon [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Essentially, this provides a traversal of the tailq that is safe from element removal, while being simple to drop in to those sections of the code that need updating, as evidenced in the patch below. The queue macros

Re: additional queue macro

2002-07-02 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Tue, 2 Jul 2002 16:07:36 -0700 (PDT), Julian Elischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I would by the way argue that the statement The queue macros always guaranteed that traversal was safe in the presence of deletions to be false. Nowhere was this guaranteed, in fact the Manual page goes to

cvs commit: src/lib/libc/gen statvfs.c

2002-07-11 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Thu, 11 Jul 2002 15:54:12 -0700 (PDT), Garrett Wollman [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: wollman 2002/07/11 15:54:12 PDT Added files: lib/libc/gen statvfs.c Log: A simple implementation of statvfs(3) (one step above the trivial one). Not yet connected to the build

Re: bug in awk implementation?

2002-07-15 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:06:36 -0700 (PDT), Gordon Tetlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Ah, okay, there is a distinct lack of documentation to that fact. I have figured out that I can just set RS= and that does the same thing. I suppose it would be helpful to have an awk book around. =) The

Re: bug in awk implementation?

2002-07-16 Thread Garrett Wollman
[Since you insisted on CC'ing me...] On Tue, 16 Jul 2002 16:57:42 -0700 (PDT), Gordon Tetlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: No, you are quoting from the gawk(1) man page. The awk(1) man page makes no such statement. The awk(1) manual page does not define the correct behavior of gawk(1). IEEE Std.

Re: cvs commit: src/release/i386 drivers.conf

2002-07-24 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Wed, 24 Jul 2002 20:28:02 +0200 (SAT), John Hay [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: We can save some space (I think) by not gziping the individual help files, but leave them unzipped. Then the final gzip of the whole image should be able to do a better job of it. But I doubt if it will give us enough

Re: aout support broken in gcc3

2002-09-03 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Tue, 3 Sep 2002 09:31:52 -0700 (PDT), Julian Elischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: As long as I can set things up so that a chroot to an environment full of 2.2.6 binaries will still work, then I can still support sites with embedded 2.2.6 based things.. Others may find this a requirement too.

Re: web browsers (was: Re: aout support broken in gcc3)

2002-09-04 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Wed, 4 Sep 2002 16:54:02 +1000, Michael WARDLE [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: for Internet Explorer). I would suggest to anybody still using Netscape 4 on a Unix platform that they try a replacement browser, whether that be Mozilla, Galeon, or something else (perhaps Opera or Konqueror).

Re: aout support broken in gcc3

2002-09-04 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Tue, 3 Sep 2002 23:32:22 +0100 (BST), Richard Tobin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: So they need a C compiler that can generate a.out format .o files, and a linker that can link a.out format .o files against an a.out format executable. Not necessarily. There is always `objcopy', at least for

Another compiler bug?

2002-09-07 Thread Garrett Wollman
World-testing some changes to libc, I had g++ bomb out with the following assertion: In file included from /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include/g++/locale:46, from /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include/g++/bits/ostream.tcc:37, from

No way to tell when `long long' is or is not supported?

2002-09-08 Thread Garrett Wollman
GCC used to define a macro __STRICT_ANSI__ when `-ansi' was given on the command line. The current version does not do this, which breaks detection of whether `long long' is allowed. (For some reason this is not hit in -current builds, but I have made some fixes to stdlib.h which trigger it in

Re: No way to tell when `long long' is or is not supported?

2002-09-09 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Mon, 9 Sep 2002 01:10:46 -0700, David O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Looking at GCC on other platforms, _LONGLONG seems to be the most preferred symbol. How does this patch look? Works for me. I'd still like to see `-posix' go away, if we're going to be changing freebsd-spec.h further.

Re: No way to tell when `long long' is or is not supported?

2002-09-09 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Mon, 9 Sep 2002 00:07:00 -0700, David O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: It seems to work for me: $ cat foo.c #ifdef __STRICT_ANSI__ #error __STRICT_ANSI__ #endif $ /usr/bin/cc -ansi foo.c foo.c:2:2: #error __STRICT_ANSI__ OK, so this is now one of those magic

Re: Crashdumps available for download ... please help

2002-09-18 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Wed, 18 Sep 2002 08:27:08 +0200 (CEST), Martin Blapp [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: 10. Upgraded to gcc3.2. I was seeing now some SIG11 during builds, and - panics ! Softupdates and fs panics mostly. I turned off softupdates. The panic was different, but all the time it was in mmap.

`lorder' problem

2002-09-24 Thread Garrett Wollman
Anyone experiencing this problem might want to try the following (beware cutpaste). I still don't understand why it is that I don't see it. Is there a hidden build dependency? (I.e., does `sort' need to be added to the list of build-tools?) I'm to tired right now to look at ncurses, but it

Re: Who broke sort(1) ?

2002-09-24 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Tue, 24 Sep 2002 13:30:11 -0700, Peter Wemm [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Oh man, this is going to suck. There are thousands and thousands of third party scripts that use +n syntax. I am most unhappy with this change. :-( The time to complain about it was back in 1992when the old syntax was

Re: Who broke sort(1) ?

2002-09-24 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Tue, 24 Sep 2002 14:09:31 -0700, Bill Fenner [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: When's the first time the FreeBSD sort(1) man page mentioned that this syntax was deprecated? Can we at least start from there? It does not appear to have ever been properly documented. I don't object to maintaining

Re: Who broke sort(1) ?

2002-09-24 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Tue, 24 Sep 2002 14:26:43 -0700, Peter Wemm [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Closed payware standards do not count as 'fair warning'. I still have never been able to see a posix standard. Go to a library. Or go to http://www.opengroup.org/ and register for free on-line access. -GAWollman To

Re: Journaled filesystem in CURRENT

2002-09-27 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Thu, 26 Sep 2002 20:06:00 -0700, David O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Thu, Sep 26, 2002 at 09:13:41PM +0200, Alexander Leidinger wrote: Yes, bg-fsck isn't really usable at the moment. They work fine for me for quite a while. The last buildworld on my server was Sept 15th. Worked

Re: devfs oddity?

2002-10-06 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Sun, 6 Oct 2002 06:08:44 -0400 (EDT), Matthew N. Dodd [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Has our CDROM driver ever supported multiple ISO filesystems per CD? Has it supported multi-session CDROMs? The notion of partitions on CDROMs is a little ambiguous. I'm hoping that GEOM can improve this.

Re: Bad system call: aio_read()

2002-10-15 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Sat, 12 Oct 2002 11:57:23 -0400, Craig Rodrigues [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I am trying to port the ACE library ( http://www.cs.wustl.edu/~schmidt/ACE.html ) to FreeBSD-CURRENT, and it is very confusing that code in -STABLE which compiled and worked, does not work the same way in -CURRENT.

Re: HEADS UP: installworld gotchas

2001-02-12 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Sun, 11 Feb 2001 16:51:29 -0800, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: The major number has already been bumped, I thought. If this is true then we've only broken compatibility with older versions of -current after the version number was bumped but before this change, right? However, this

Re: HEADS UP: installworld gotchas

2001-02-13 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:58:11 -0800, "David O'Brien" [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: That is (1) against Handbook documented policy, (2) too hackish (we aren't Linux). And who came up with that policy in the first place? -GAWollman To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe

Re: Patch for FILE problems (was Re: -CURRENT is bad for me...)

2001-02-13 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:20:51 -0800, Peter Wemm [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: If we had taken -current to 500, we could go to 501, 502, etc as required to stop killing our developers, and prior to entering 5.0-BETA we go back to the next sequentially available major number (be it 5, or 6 if

Re: Patch for FILE problems (was Re: -CURRENT is bad for me...)

2001-02-13 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Tue, 13 Feb 2001 07:38:40 -0800, Peter Wemm [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: There is no concept of "forward" or "backward" as far as the toolchain and runtime support goes. There is only "filename exists" or "file not found". This is a human-factors issue, not a code issue. People expect to see

find / -fstype local traverses non-local filesystems

2001-02-24 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Sat, 24 Feb 2001 17:04:44 +1030, Matthew Thyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: find seems to be traversing all file systems (local and non-local) but just not reporting the found file when its on a non-local filesystem. As has been discussed many times before, this is correct behavior. If you

Posix feature tests update

2001-03-04 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Sun, 4 Mar 2001 14:11:58 -0500 (EST), Peter Dufault [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Critique, please. I have almost completely finished this work. Please join the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing-list, where the patches were posted several months ago, and where hopefully more discussion can still take

Re: cp MAKEDEV /dev - on a system with devfs

2001-03-13 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Tue, 13 Mar 2001 22:38:22 +, Tony Finch [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: There's one real oddity in FreeBSD: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 13 Jan 28 13:42 rmt - /usr/sbin/rmt* The pathname of the `rmt' program is a fundamental part of the `rmt' ``protocol'' such as it is. We've been

Re: random reboots...

2001-03-14 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Wed, 14 Mar 2001 15:48:03 +0600 (ALMT), Boris Popov [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: You need options LIBMCHAIN as well. We don't have mechanism for specifying dependancies between options as of yet. (sorry, should put a note in the NOTES). Actually, yes we do, although it's not often used.

RE: Latest version of mega header file POSIX update

2001-03-16 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Thu, 15 Mar 2001 14:32:20 -0800 (PST), John Baldwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I don't think the sys/conf/Makefile.i386 change is needed. :) Oops. Sorry, that one leaked out Nothing else jumped out at me while I glanced over it however, and it seems fine at first glance. But did you

Re: Request for review [Re: /bin/ls patch round #2]

2001-03-20 Thread Garrett Wollman
On 20 Mar 2001 15:53:21 +0900, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (MINOURA Makoto) said: In general direct manipulation of rune is evil. It is an internal data structure in libc; Not true. The `rune' API was developed by the Plan 9 people by intention to be different from (in their view, superior to) the ISO

Re: Request for review [Re: /bin/ls patch round #2]

2001-03-21 Thread Garrett Wollman
On 21 Mar 2001 13:02:41 +0900, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (MINOURA Makoto) said: Sorry I'm not sure but rune API is slightly different between 4.4BSD and Plan9, isn't it? Nobody runs Plan 9, whereas hundreds of thousands of machines run *BSD. Sources of the standard commands are often used as a

Re: Request for review [Re: /bin/ls patch round #2]

2001-03-21 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Thu, 22 Mar 2001 00:26:09 +0300, "Andrey A. Chernov" [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: This particular case is different from what you say. There is no strict POSIX/ISO C equivalent of functionality you describe, Certainly there is. The daemon(3) function is implemented entirely on top of POSIX

selwakeup()

2001-04-05 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Thu, 05 Apr 2001 01:39:35 -0500, Richard Todd [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: If I'm reading this backtrace right, the thread handling the sound hardware called selwakeup() (frame #19). This called pfind() (frame #18), which tries to lock allproc. selwakeup() shouldn't need to call pfind().

RE: selwakeup()

2001-04-05 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Thu, 05 Apr 2001 14:41:29 -0700 (PDT), John Baldwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: As a safety check we should probably zero the pid right before zfree()'ing a proc in wait() however, so that a stale pointer to a free'd process doesn't have a valid pid if we do this. Should not be necessary.

Re: Who is maintainer of kerberos/heimdall/sendmail?

2001-04-12 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Thu, 12 Apr 2001 09:24:46 -0700, Gregory Neil Shapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: tlambert The value of SOMAXCONN is not valis; the valid limit is only tlambert obtainable from sysctl (kern.ipc.somaxconn). We (Sendmail) will look at integrating your fix into 8.12 (which will be the first to

Re: SOMAXCONN -- not tunable?

2001-04-13 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Fri, 13 Apr 2001 04:01:25 -0700, Alfred Perlstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Actually, the correct fix is most likely to redefine it to -1. :) POSIX.1-200x draft 5 has this to say: Implementations shall support values of backlog up to SOMAXCONN, defined in sys/socket.h

Re: FIO* doc added to tty.4 (review)

2001-04-17 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Wed, 18 Apr 2001 06:40:38 +1000 (EST), Bruce Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Does POSIX now specify select() and/or poll() precisely enough to show that the current behaviour is wrong? In addition to more explicit requirements for sockets, draft 6 has the following to say about select() and

Re: cp -d dir patch for review (or 'xargs'?)

2001-04-20 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Fri, 20 Apr 2001 00:57:29 -0400, Garance A Drosihn [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: '-y[replstr]' (no blank after -y). Prohibited by POSIX. The `xargs' utility ``shall'' follow the Utility Syntax Guidelines. so I don't know how we go about adding options to it. POSIX is clear on this issue: the

vm_mtx

2001-04-24 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 21:51:31 -0700, Alfred Perlstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: You can find the work I've done so far to make a giant vm mutex here: The Mach code we originally inherited was supposed to already by multiprocessor safe. Did we manage to eliminate that capability? -GAWollman

Re: Boot messages

2001-04-24 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Tue, 24 Apr 2001 16:19:59 -0700, Dima Dorfman [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: This is not a bug. This is an FAQ. So much that it's actually documented in (*gasp!*) the FAQ: Unfortunately, the A in the FAQ is wrong. The ``can't assign resources'' messages indicate that the devices are legacy ISA

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