Re: mtree verification output format

2000-10-02 Thread Greg Black

 This is still very obscure; I'd like to see:
 
  size (was 1234, should be 5678)
  cksum (was 42424242, should be 69696969)
 
 ...so that it's clear what the meaning of the numbers is.
 
 In that case I think I would like to loose the ',' also.

While you're at it, why not use single word verbs:

size (got 1234 wanted 5678)
cksum (got 42424242 wanted 69696969)


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Re: mtree verification output format

2000-10-02 Thread Greg Black

   This is still very obscure; I'd like to see:
   
size (was 1234, should be 5678)
cksum (was 42424242, should be 69696969)
   
   ...so that it's clear what the meaning of the numbers is.
   
   In that case I think I would like to loose the ',' also.
  
  While you're at it, why not use single word verbs:
  
  size (got 1234 wanted 5678)
  cksum (got 42424242 wanted 69696969)
 
 Try "expected", but yes, this is a better idea.

You're right, "expected" is better.


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Re: Preparing innocent users for -current

2002-03-15 Thread Greg Black

Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote:

|  3. xconsole causes periodic panics. The problem (according to BDE) is a
|  well-know bug in printf(9), caused by The TIOCCONS ioctl ... panics when
|  printf() is called while sched_lock is held. I reported this bug in
|  October 2001, if anyone wants to look through the archives.
| 
| Ages-old, very difficult to fix.  Just don't use xconsole.

You left out the final sentence with the suggested alternative.

Greg

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Re: gcc -O broken in CURRENT

2002-03-15 Thread Greg Black

[Cc's trimmed]

Kenneth Culver wrote:

|  (ttypa):{1078}% file /usr/local/lib/netscape/communicator-4.7.us.bin
|  /usr/local/lib/netscape/communicator-4.7.us.bin: FreeBSD/i386 compact
|demand paged dynamically linked executable
| 
|  Now, if you'd like to talk Netscape into building a version intended for
|  a version of FreeBSD newer than, say, 3 years, 3.5 months (approximately)
|  old...
| 
| I didn't realize anyone still used netscape 4.x. It's so disgustingly
| unstable and slow.

It's less slow and much more reliable than mozilla and remains
the only available browser that can access most of the sites I
need to access.

Greg

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Re: web Browsers (Re: gcc -O broken in CURRENT)

2002-03-16 Thread Greg Black

Joerg Wunsch wrote:

| David O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| 
|  Slow.  Eats memory.  Crashes all the time.  Does not save state
|  between sessions.  Does not render HTML 4 properly.  Does not support
|  CSS properly.  Does not zoom.  Does not display PNG properly.
|  Incorrectly ignores cache-control headers on images.  The list goes
|  
|  What brower available on FreeBSD does do all these things?
| 
| Galeon.

Yeah right.  Galeon wouldn't even build on the last FreeBSD box
I tried it on when somebody told me to try it.

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Re: web Browsers (Re: gcc -O broken in CURRENT)

2002-03-17 Thread Greg Black

David O'Brien wrote:
| On Sat, Mar 16, 2002 at 06:05:13AM +0100, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote:
|  Garrett Wollman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
|   What problems do you have with it?
|  
|  Slow.  Eats memory.  Crashes all the time.  Does not save state
|  between sessions.  Does not render HTML 4 properly.  Does not support
|  CSS properly.  Does not zoom.  Does not display PNG properly.
|  Incorrectly ignores cache-control headers on images.  The list goes
| 
| What brower available on FreeBSD does do all these things?
| Mozilla 0.9.8 was a disaster.  Opera 6 is such a disaster that I went
| back to 5.05.  [linux-]Netscape6 was marked BROKEN for a long time.
| konquor... well requires a lot of KDE bits to be installed.

Mozilla in all the variants I have tried is incapable of even
reliably downloading a file -- sometimes it works and sometimes
it turns it into complete junk, usually 20 Mbytes bigger than
the original.  Useless.

Many of the secure sites I need to use (banks, universities,
etc.) refuse to allow access from any release 6 browser.

Linux-netscape-4.7{6,9} handles everything I want, sometimes
with minor glitches, but well enough.  And I can leave it
running for weeks at a time without problems.  That's good
enough for me.  The alternatives that I have tried either don't
build or don't work and that means they are worse.

Greg

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Re: web Browsers (Re: gcc -O broken in CURRENT)

2002-03-17 Thread Greg Black

Maxim Sobolev wrote:
| On Sun, 2002-03-17 at 09:56, Greg Black wrote:
|  Yeah right.  Galeon wouldn't even build on the last FreeBSD box
|  I tried it on when somebody told me to try it.
| 
| It compiles/works here like a charm, however, if you do have problems
| with it please send a problem report to maintainers ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
| and we will try to help you.

Thank you for the offer.  At present, I don't much care whether
Galeon works or not -- linux-netscape works well enough for my
needs.

I did not submit a problem report about galeon because I had
much more serious problems on the machine in question and they
needed (and still need) to be resolved first.

If I can ever get anybody interested in making a version of
FreeBSD later than 4.3 work on my laptop, then I'll have another
look at the Galeon question, as it was for the laptop that I was
trying to get it going.

As it stands, 4.4, 4.5 and current all have badly broken PCMCIA
support which makes them unusable.  Fortunately, 4.3 does not
have this breakage, but it would be a waste of time to play with
galeon on such an old release.

Greg

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