Re: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/linux linux_misc.c
Speaking of which, I'm also of the opinion that we should add a "Do you want to run Linux binaries?" query to sysinstall which results in linux emulation being enabled by default and the linux_lib package being loaded. This would make it even more transparent to the user. Any objections? Speaking as one who experiences excess stupidity of people who don't read the FAQ on #FreeBSD, I can only say "hell yes, add that.". I gladly third that one I'm tired of answering "Linux emulation problems" questions on the questions list... Kenneth Culver To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Aureal Vortex soundcard drivers
I was just wondering how the drivers on the aureal vortex are coming along... I know that Cameron Grant was working on them, but I have not heard anything on that subject fora while, so I was kinda hoping to hear about it soon. Thanks. Kenneth Culver To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: it's time...
to let newpcm out of the cage so you can all get your grubby little hands on it. http://www.vilnya.demon.co.uk/newpcm+dfrpnp-19990807.diff.gz this is a patch against a recent -current. if you have a pci or isapnp soundcard, you should have pnp0 and pcm0 in your kernel config as appropriate. isapnp cards should not need any pnp lines in kernel.conf. the list of supported cards is as for luigi's driver, with the addition of a couple more mss-clones, and trident 4dwave. there is a part done aureal vortex driver which is as yet nonfunctional. mmap() is supported but not well tested. format conversions are supported. the code seems to be stable. please test it and email me success and failure reports. - cameron It works ok for me, but one nice feature of the sound system would be if upon shutdown (I don't leave my machine on all the time right now) OS somehow looked at a config file (call it /etc/soundvol.conf) for mixer volumes, and set them to that as a default... Just an idea. KEnneth Culver To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
gcc back?
I'm just wondering but I noticed when I cvsupped a few minutes ago that gcc is back in the source tree. I was wondering if there were plans to keep gcc in the source now. Kenneth Culver To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: gcc back?
I'm just wondering but I noticed when I cvsupped a few minutes ago that gcc is back in the source tree. I was wondering if there were plans to keep gcc in the source now. If you are tracking -current, you should be reading the commit messages. egcs has become gcc. I must have accidentally missed that one. Especially since egcs is still in my source tree after cvsupping. Ken Culver To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
current kernel breakage
I recently recompiled my kernel with the following kernel config file, and now when I boot up, I get about halfway through probing, and the computer freezes, accepting no keyboard input or anything else but a hard reset (reset button) here is my kernel Config file.. # # GENERIC -- Generic machine with WD/AHx/NCR/BTx family disks # # For more information on this file, please read the handbook section on # Kernel Configuration Files: # #http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/kernelconfig-config.html # # The handbook is also available locally in /usr/share/doc/handbook # if you've installed the doc distribution, otherwise always see the # FreeBSD World Wide Web server (http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/) for the # latest information. # # An exhaustive list of options and more detailed explanations of the # device lines is also present in the ./LINT configuration file. If you are # in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check first in LINT. # # $Id: GENERIC,v 1.178 1999/07/25 04:32:43 wpaul Exp $ machine i386 cpu I686_CPU ident "MYKERNEL" maxusers64 #makeoptionsDEBUG=-g#Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols options INET#InterNETworking options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options FFS_ROOT#FFS usable as root device [keep this!] options PROCFS #Process filesystem options COMPAT_43 #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options UCONSOLE#Allow users to grab the console options SYSVSHM #SYSV-style shared memory options SYSVMSG #SYSV-style message queues options SYSVSEM #SYSV-style semaphores options SC_DISABLE_REBOOT options SOFTUPDATES # To make an SMP kernel, the next two are needed #optionsSMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel #optionsAPIC_IO # Symmetric (APIC) I/O # Optionally these may need tweaked, (defaults shown): #optionsNCPU=2 # number of CPUs #optionsNBUS=4 # number of busses #optionsNAPIC=1 # number of IO APICs #optionsNINTR=24# number of INTs controller isa0 controller pnp0# PnP support for ISA controller pci0 # Floppy drives controller fdc0at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2 diskfd0 at fdc0 drive 0 controller ata0 device atadisk0 device atapicd0 # SCSI Controllers # A single entry for any of these controllers (ncr, ahb, ahc) is # sufficient for any number of installed devices. controller scbus0 # SCSI bus (required) device da0 # Direct Access (disks) # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse controller atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD device atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1 device psm0at atkbdc? irq 12 device vga0at isa? port ? conflicts # splash screen/screen saver pseudo-device splash # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc0 at isa? # Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console driver #device vt0 at isa? #optionsXSERVER # support for X server #optionsFAT_CURSOR # start with block cursor # If you have a ThinkPAD, uncomment this along with the rest of the PCVT lines #optionsPCVT_SCANSET=2 # IBM keyboards are non-std # Floating point support - do not disable. device npx0at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13 # Power management support (see LINT for more options) device apm0at nexus? flags 0x31 # Advanced Power Management # PCCARD (PCMCIA) support #controller card0 #device pcic0 at card? #device pcic1 at card? # Serial (COM) ports device sio0at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4 device sio1at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3 # Parallel port device ppc0at isa? port? flags 0x40 irq 7 controller ppbus0 # Parallel port bus (required) device lpt0# Printer device plip0 # TCP/IP over parallel device ppi0# Parallel port interface device controller vpo0# Requires scbus and da0 # PCI Ethernet NICs. device de0 # DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'') # Pseudo devices - the number indicates how many units to allocated. pseudo-device loop# Network loopback pseudo-device ether # Ethernet support pseudo-device sl 1 # Kernel SLIP pseudo-device ppp 1 # Kernel PPP pseudo-device tun 1 # Packet tunnel, for ppp(1) pseudo-device pty 16 # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc) pseudo-device gzip# Exec gzipped a.out's # The `bpf' pseudo-device
Make world broken
Make world is broken, these are the errors I get: cc -nostdinc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/sbin/kget/../../sys/i386 -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/sbin/kget/kget.c /usr/src/sbin/kget/kget.c:34: isa/pnp.h: No such file or directory /usr/src/sbin/kget/kget.c: In function `main': /usr/src/sbin/kget/kget.c:131: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/src/sbin/kget/kget.c:131: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/src/sbin/kget/kget.c:135: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/src/sbin/kget/kget.c:137: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/src/sbin/kget/kget.c:137: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/src/sbin/kget/kget.c:141: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/src/sbin/kget/kget.c:141: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/src/sbin/kget/kget.c:142: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/src/sbin/kget/kget.c:143: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/src/sbin/kget/kget.c:143: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/src/sbin/kget/kget.c:143: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/src/sbin/kget/kget.c:143: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/src/sbin/kget/kget.c:144: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/src/sbin/kget/kget.c:145: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/src/sbin/kget/kget.c:147: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/src/sbin/kget/kget.c:148: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/src/sbin/kget/kget.c:152: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/src/sbin/kget/kget.c:153: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type /usr/src/sbin/kget/kget.c:159: sizeof applied to an incomplete type *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sbin/kget. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sbin. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. Thanks Kenneth Culver To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
another error
I cvsupped about 20 minutes ago and now I get this message when I su to root, or when I start xwindows. It doesn't seem to be hurting anything though: Warning:tty: no si_tty Is it anything to worry about? = | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best OS around.| | Unix System Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: AgRSkaterq | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| = To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: Loss of Functionality with newpnp
This is only partially related, but I still can't even boot a kernel with the pnp0 controller enabled. It just hangs after probing the soundcard. On Sun, 26 Sep 1999, Mike Smith wrote: Sigh. Again, I didn't demand anything. I simply pointed out that functionality had been lost. If I was the author of this code, I would *want* feedback on how it was working out for people out here in userland. I assume that the authors in question _do_ want such feedback. Actually, in your case, no. The "functionality" you're claiming was lost was actually an unintentional side-effect of the code which will intentionally not be emulated. You are encouraged to participate in the ongoing development of our new sourd drivers in order to ensure they meet the functionality of the old ones, since that _is_ lost functionality that we care about. -- \\ The mind's the standard \\ Mike Smith \\ of the man. \\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] \\-- Joseph Merrick \\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
bktr
I'm happy to report that for my WinTV card, the bktr drivers are working well with the latest changes. Keep up the good work. = | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best OS around.| | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: AgRSkaterq | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| = To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: HEADS UP: sigset_t changes committed
I would have to agree with that. I have never seen such a well documented commit. But even then I still ran into problems, although I'm not sure how closely related they are to the changes made. My problems seem to be with the Soren's ata drivers. The good old "lost contact with device" messages are back and with a vengence. It seems that now (through a mistake of my own, in addition to this problem with the ata drivers) I have to go back to a snapshot of current, and reinstall all the tools, as well as a generic kernel. However, the pnp controller as of the latest snapshot still causes me to lock up hard before I ever get booted. Isn't there some way to disable to pnp0 controller, like in the userconfig part off the boot floppy? = | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best OS around.| | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: AgRSkaterq | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| = On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, John Polstra wrote: Marcel Moolenaar wrote: As for AMD, I don't use it. I'll dig into manpages, source code and whatsnot. If possible I'll reconfigure something here so that I can test it on a i386. Thanks. I'll try to get you a stack trace from it today if I can find time. BTW: I'm sorry, that a simple bug in the NFS code made your filesystem go south. I have been working hard to prevent that... I know you have, and there's absolutely no need to apologize. Your commit was a model of excellence in terms of the review process, the heads up message, the commit logs, etc. This machine is a scratch box and if I had to go all the way back to disklabel it wouldn't be much of a disaster. Besides, it appears I only lost files from "/usr/obj". :-) John --- John Polstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] John D. Polstra Co., Inc.Seattle, Washington USA "No matter how cynical I get, I just can't keep up."-- Nora Ephron To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
ata driver (again)
The ata driver seems to be having problems staying in contact with my disks again. Let me know what details are needed to fix the problem, and I'll get in touch with you. = | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best OS around.| | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: AgRSkaterq | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| = To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
RE: ata driver (again)
On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, Luke wrote: On 01-Oct-99 Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: The ata driver seems to be having problems staying in contact with my disks again. Let me know what details are needed to fix the problem, and I'll get in touch with you. Hi I don't know if it is the same problem but I have a nagging problem with the ata driver as well. I am fairly sure my disk is ok but can't remove it and do any checking anytime soon. I see errors like this: /kernel: wd0: interrupt timeout (status59rdy,seekdone,drq,errerror40uncorr) /kernel: wd0: wdtimeout() DMA status 4 /kernel: swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: device:0x20001, blkno: 22304, size: 8192 /kernel: wd0s1b: hard error reading fsbn 22304 of 22304- 22319 (wd0s1 bn 124704; cn 7 tn 194 sn 27) (status 59rdy,seekdone,drq,err erro r 40uncorr) --- what kind of errors do you see? I get this with 3.3R and many different -current's and with the wd and ata driver. it is always in a different location on the disk.. I get similar errors, but not with the wd driver, only the ata driver, and only the timeout error. sometimes the hard error. Ken To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: Netscape core dump, happily :-)
That's odd, I have not been able to make netscape crash. = | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best OS around.| | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: AgRSkaterq | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| = On Sun, 3 Oct 1999, Jon Parise wrote: On Sun, Oct 03, 1999 at 12:22:55PM +0200, Gianmarco Giovannelli wrote: Is there anyone who is experienced Netscape crashes with 4.0-CURRENT when the close button is pressed (not always, but very often) ? It happens to me with 4.61 and 4.70 , it doesn't happen with 3.2-STABLE I have at work. Yes, I've been experiencing that as well. It writes a zero length core file in my home directory and exits with signal 10: Oct 1 16:20:53 void /kernel: pid 18518 (navigator-4.61.b), uid 1000: exited on signal 10 It's incredibly annoying, but I haven't bothered to track it down in any great detail. -- Jon Parise ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) . Rochester Inst. of Technology http://www.pobox.com/~parise/ : Computer Science House Member To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
linux emu and quake3test
IT seems that a recent change to the linux emulation code has caused q3 to have problems, whenever I try to go to an internet game, I get a message on the console: usage: ping [server] doing this operation worked fine yesterday. Kenneth Culver = | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best OS around.| | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: AgRSkaterq | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| = To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: linux emulation broken..
This is weird, I use linux netscape and word perfect all the time, and the only problems I see are memory leaks I knew were there (in the applications, not FreeBSD) = | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best OS around.| | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: AgRSkaterq | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| = On Thu, 14 Oct 1999, Marc van Woerkom wrote: (im)perfect. I was using the linux version of netscape, until recently when it began hanging for long periods of time during network or disk activity. Calling up linux-netscape-4.61 causes my system to freeze for a couple of seconds, then it reboots. This is either related to some recent changes, or my system being not in a consistent state. Regards, Marc To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
gcc 2.95.2
I just successfully compiled the world and the kernel (defaut optimizations on everything) with gcc 2.95.2, and so far all is well :-) = | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best OS around.| | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: AgRSkaterq | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| = To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
bktr driver and gcc 2.95.2
Alright, it seems I have my first problem with gcc 2.95.2, (well, I'm not really sure that it's a gcc problem). The problem is that now, after having upgraded the compiler, fxtv will only display every other scanline instead of all of them. = | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best OS around.| | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: AgRSkaterq | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| = To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
rtc0
For some reason, after recompiling the kernel over the last few days, systat -vm no longer even shows an rtc0 device. It only shows the clk device. I know this is not supposed to happen, so can anyone give me any ideas on how to fix the problem??? = | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best OS around.| | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: AgRSkaterq | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| = To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
rtc0
This is the output of my systat -vm 1 after the upgrade to gcc 2.95.2: 2 usersLoad 0.13 0.58 0.63 Wed Nov 17 19:11 Mem:KBREALVIRTUAL VN PAGER SWAP PAGER Tot Share TotShareFree in out in out Act 22268159639792 2528 40120 count All 903882968 2449940 4508 pages 4 zfod Interrupts Proc:r p d s wCsw Trp Sys Int Sof Flt 3 cow 121 total 16 479 33 1444 122 258 67 22532 wire ata-pci0 i 36188 act ata-pci0 i 0.3%Sys 0.1%Intr 0.2%User 0.0%Nice 99.4%Idl28232 inact bktr0 irq9 |||||||||| 3436 cache12 de0 irq10 36684 freefdc0 irq6 daefr 9 atkbd0 irq Namei Name-cacheDir-cache 6 prcfr psm0 irq12 Calls hits% hits% react sb0 irq5 500 491 9810 pdwak 100 clk irq0 pdpgs Disks ad0 ad1 ad2 acd0 da0 fd0 intrn KB/t 0.00 5.38 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 11263 buf tps 0 0 0 0 0 0 23 dirtybuf MB/s 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.008986 desiredvnodes % busy0 0 0 0 0 0 826 numvnodes 371 freevnodes I know the lines wrapped, but that doesn't matter, the reason I put this here is because rtc0 seems to be missing. I don't know why, but when I recompiled the kernel with gcc 2.95.2, this device just suddenly dissappeared. Any suggestions? = | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best OS around.| | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: AgRSkaterq | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| = To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
fxtv/bktr driver broken?
I have included a link screenshot of what the picture is doing on my tv card. It seems that since gcc 2.95.2 has been introduced as the default compiler on FreeBSD-CURRENT, the behavior in the jpeg has been occuring. I have tried to locate the source of the problem in the driver, but I don't know what it is. Any help/bugfixes would be appreciated. Thanks. The link is www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/fxtv.jpg Kenneth Culver To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: UP kernel performance and Matt Dillon's patches
I havn't noticed this behavior... or any other performance hits and I'm running a kernel that was cvsupped about 5 10 minutes ago.. and recompiled about 5 minutes ago... = | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best OS around.| | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| = On Wed, 29 Mar 2000, Gary Jennejohn wrote: Alfred Perlstein writes: * Gary Jennejohn [EMAIL PROTECTED] [000328 14:04] wrote: I'm running a UP machine with Matt's latest changes. I was just compiling a new kernel and noticed the my PS/2 mouse under X was very sluggish. I never noticed this sort of behavior before the changes, even while doing ``make -j8 buildworld''. The compile was running on a UW SCSI disk on an Adaptec aic7880 Ultra SCSI adapter on my motherboard, in case it matters. Looks like something has been verschlimmbessert (a wonderful German word which means "made worse through improvement" :) This is unlikely as a UP kernel doesn't seem to compile after Matt's changes (no offence Matt, I know you're getting to it), when was the last time you didn't see this sluggish behavior, how are you compiling your kernel? What's your Id line for sys/i386/i386/mplock.s ? Mine is: * $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/i386/mplock.s,v 1.30 2000/03/28 07:16:15 dillon Exp $ I have * $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/i386/mplock.s,v 1.31 2000/03/28 18:06:37 dillon Exp $ Matt fixed the bug which was preventing compilng a UP kernel. So I guess it is likely, after all. --- Gary Jennejohn / [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: UP kernel performance and Matt Dillon's patches
Yeah, I was wrong before.. I just had to really hit the system hard before I noticed this behavior... it get's pretty bad... the mouse get's jumpy, and the keyboard input is really slow... = | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best OS around.| | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| = On Wed, 29 Mar 2000, Geoff Rehmet wrote: Matthew Dillon writes : :I'm running a UP machine with Matt's latest changes. I was just :compiling a new kernel and noticed the my PS/2 mouse under X was very :sluggish. I never noticed this sort of behavior before the changes, :even while doing ``make -j8 buildworld''. : :The compile was running on a UW SCSI disk on an Adaptec aic7880 Ultra :SCSI adapter on my motherboard, in case it matters. : :Looks like something has been verschlimmbessert (a wonderful German :word which means "made worse through improvement" :) : : :Gary Jennejohn / [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ok, I'll take a look at it... the most likely cause is that I somehow broke need_resched. Not impossible, I'll check it out. I'm seeing the same symptoms while doing a make - my console performance is very jumpy and sluggish. Geoff. -- Geoff Rehmet, The Internet Solution [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel: +27-83-292-5800 To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
sound broken on ViBRA16X?
with a recently compiled kernel (cvsupped about 5 minutes ago..) sounds play for less than half a second... then just completely stop... Maybe this is related to Matt Dillon's recent work? I'm not sure... = | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best OS around.| | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| = To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Vibra16x
OK, I'm not sure what was wrong before, but after a recompile of the kernel, all seems well again with sound at least. = | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best OS around.| | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| = To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: xyz.lcs.mit.edu (aka ftp5.freebsd.org) now has more completemirror
If you are at an Internet2-participating organization, use a MediaOne cable modem, or are connected to NEAR^H^H^H^HBBN^H^H^HGTE^H^H^HGenuity in the Boston area, you will get much faster access from our server than from the main FreeBSD.org hosts in California. YAY!! 150 mbit/sec connection from UMDCP :-) I'll be able to help many more people get FreeBSD on their systems now. = | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best OS around.| | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| = To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: SMP changes and breaking kld object module compatibility
Richard Wackerbarth wrote: On Mon, 24 Apr 2000, Matthew Dillon wrote: : However, I consider your SMP changes VERY destablizing; they BREAK : lots of modules :-( Huh? No they don't. They simply require recompiling the modules. If they actually broke the modules I wouldn't be trying to MFC it to -stable. From the USER's perspective, anything that requires me to as much as reload a module/program that I have already installed "breaks" it. The fact that it is only necessary to recompile it in order to fix it only means that it is easy to fix IF I have the source code. I don't think it was ever recommended that you upgrade your kernel without upgrading and rebuilding the modules (better still, world) at the same time. So this wouldn't really have an adverse effect, would it? I believe that it depends on what changes were made since the last recompile, although it is good practice to at least recompile the modules when the kernel is recompiled. = | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best OS around.| | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| = To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: SMP changes and breaking kld object module compatibility
On Mon, 24 Apr 2000, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: I don't think it was ever recommended that you upgrade your kernel without upgrading and rebuilding the modules (better still, world) at the same time. So this wouldn't really have an adverse effect, would it? I believe that it depends on what changes were made since the last recompile, although it is good practice to at least recompile the modules when the kernel is recompiled. On a released system, I may not have the sources to recompile the module. It might be a proprietary module that I got with the hardware, for example. That is why STABLE INTERFACES are so IMPORTANT to USERS. Yeah, I understand that. I was talking about -current. = | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best OS around.| | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| = To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: SMP changes and breaking kld object module compatibility
Personally, I don't think that's a bad idea, I never had trouble going to /usr/src/sys/modules and doing a make depend then make then make install, but I guess it'd be nicer if everything just compiled when I built my kernel, and better yet, it would be nice to have it make the "modules.old" directory somewhere. = | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best OS around.| | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| = On Mon, 24 Apr 2000, Brandon D. Valentine wrote: On Mon, 24 Apr 2000, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: I believe that it depends on what changes were made since the last recompile, although it is good practice to at least recompile the modules when the kernel is recompiled. In my opinion the best way to handle things like this is to add a modules target to the kernel Makefile which would call src/sys/modules/Makefile and allow users who would perhaps never venture into src/sys except when heading straight for src/sys/i386/conf to easily update their modules. It makes little sense to have modules under src/sys and in the src-sys collection if the only time they are routinely rebuilt is through a complete make world. Isn't the idea of having a seperate Makefile for src/sys so that *all* kernel level code can be recompiled and/or updated without the user having to possess all of src or knowledge of the world process? I know I'm not the first person to raise the issue, but I don't think I should be the last either. I think it's a sound architectual decision and 100% inline with FreeBSD's commitment to accomodate users of all skill levels. Brandon D. Valentine -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Illegitimi non carborundum. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
linux ldconfig core dump
As of about Thursday, Apr 20 I get this message when I try to run linux ldconfig: Segmentation fault(core dumped) I recompiled the module and the kernel on this day so I think that's what cause the problem, but I was wondering if there was anyone else having this problem. This started last thursday, and it continues to be a problem even now (with a kernel that's 10 minutes old, cvsupped today) Ken Culver To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: linux ldconfig core dump
oops, I forgot all about that, thanks. :-) = | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best OS around.| | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| = On Tue, 25 Apr 2000, Brooks Davis wrote: On Tue, Apr 25, 2000 at 09:14:57PM -0400, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: As of about Thursday, Apr 20 I get this message when I try to run linux ldconfig: Segmentation fault(core dumped) I recompiled the module and the kernel on this day so I think that's what cause the problem, but I was wondering if there was anyone else having this problem. This started last thursday, and it continues to be a problem even now (with a kernel that's 10 minutes old, cvsupped today) The method of branding has changed, and David O'Brien said you need to rebrand the linux ldconfig program. -- Brooks -- Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
sound
Just to let someone know (I know this is -current) but some of the recent changes to the pcm driver have had some wierd effects. First, no wav file will completely play (at least not the short ones); second, xmms now takes 100% cpu, and in top, it says that 76% of this is being used by the "system" Again, just to let someone know. Ken To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: high CPU usage by xmms
I'm also getting this behavior now. It's not the xmms binary that's taking all the cpu though... top reports it as "system" CPU usage. = | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best OS around.| | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| = On Sat, 29 Apr 2000, VINSON WAYNE HOWARD wrote: I did reboot for that reason, but I retried it and got about 50. Mabey I didn't run the player long enough... Ok, I checked, and vmstat shows cpu usage to be quite normal, about 6% while playing. What's up w/ top? Not on my computer: pantzer@skalman ~ vmstat -w 1 procs memory pagedisks faults cpu r b w avm fre flt re pi po fr sr ad0 da0 in sy cs us sy id 4 1 0 339480 5552 131 0 0 1 147 233 0 0 288 1722 1971 6 5 89 1 1 0 339480 55328 0 0 0 0 0 3 1 312 34105 34350 16 84 0 1 1 0 339456 55565 0 0 0 6 0 0 0 321 34349 34608 10 90 0 1 1 0 339456 55525 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 321 34211 34484 12 88 0 If you only run vmstat you get the average since the computer started. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: high CPU usage by xmms
I guess it depends on your soundcard, I'm getting the behavior I'm getting with a ViBRA 16X and a kernel as of this morning. This didn't start happening until about 4 days ago with a -CURRENT kernel. Maybe you have an older -CURRENT. = | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best OS around.| | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| = On Sun, 30 Apr 2000, Ted Sikora wrote: Ted Sikora wrote: VINSON WAYNE HOWARD wrote: Ok, I checked, and vmstat shows cpu usage to be quite normal, about 6% while playing. What's up w/ top? Xmms on my SMP current machine: top shows 40 to 43% system vmstat shows 10 to 11% vmstat -w 1 matches top exactly about 41-43% system on my box. -- Ted Sikora Jtl Development Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: high CPU usage by xmms
Hmm, I don't know then, I'm using that ViBRA 16X which seems to cause problems a lot. = | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best OS around.| | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| = On Sun, 30 Apr 2000, Ted Sikora wrote: Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: I guess it depends on your soundcard, I'm getting the behavior I'm getting with a ViBRA 16X and a kernel as of this morning. This didn't start happening until about 4 days ago with a -CURRENT kernel. Maybe you have an older -CURRENT. I did a make build/installworld and kernel this afternoon after I cvsup'd(current). I have an original non-pnp SB16. (Best sounding sound card on the market IMOP) Aureal and any ESS equiped cards are excellent too. -- Ted Sikora Jtl Development Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: high CPU usage by xmms
It was working perfectly about 10 days ago. It stopped working right after one or two major commits. And also, it's in 5.0-CURRENT, not 4.0 = | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best OS around.| | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| = On Mon, 1 May 2000, Ted Sikora wrote: Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: Hmm, I don't know then, I'm using that ViBRA 16X which seems to cause problems a lot. On Sun, 30 Apr 2000, Ted Sikora wrote: Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: I guess it depends on your soundcard, I'm getting the behavior I'm getting with a ViBRA 16X and a kernel as of this morning. This didn't start happening until about 4 days ago with a -CURRENT kernel. Maybe you have an older -CURRENT. I did a make build/installworld and kernel this afternoon after I cvsup'd(current). I have an original non-pnp SB16. (Best sounding sound card on the market IMOP) The VibraX used to be the card everyone recommended to stay away from. It's not full-duplex. Early on it was hard writing for it (mostly due to lack of specs and noise problems). It seems most problems have been solved now. Like someone mentioned already I think it's a 4.0 problem. Xmms worked perfectly under 3.4 for me too. The eq problem appeared after the upgrades. -- Ted Sikora Jtl Development Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
proposed pkg_delete change
I have a suggestion for pkg_delete: Very often when I'm deleting a package (such as kde, after testing the port) I want to delete that package, and all it's dependancies; instead of going around looking for the dependancies, I think it would be a nice idea to add an option to pkg_delete to automatically delete all dependancies that aren't currently used by anything else. If nobody is interested in doing this, I can do it when I have some spare time (finals here at school). And then submit patches. = | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best OS around.| | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| = To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: proposed pkg_delete change
I have a suggestion for pkg_delete: Very often when I'm deleting a package (such as kde, after testing the port) I want to delete that package, and all it's dependancies; instead of going around looking for the dependancies, I think it would be a nice idea to add an option to pkg_delete to automatically delete all dependancies that aren't currently used by anything else. That would be cool, yes. If you've got the time to do it, I think it would be well-worth the effort. Alright, I'll get on it probably in 2 weeks when finals are over. Ken To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: a better idea for package dependencies
Actually, it has to do with the pkg_ commands, which I believe are built when you make world... and aren't part of the ports, so I assumed that since these are part of -current, and changes would be made to -current, it's better to send to -current. Sorry for any inconvenience. = | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best OS around.| | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| = On Mon, 8 May 2000, David O'Brien wrote: On Mon, May 08, 2000 at 02:26:42PM -0400, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: Instead of automatically deleteing the dependencies, I think maybe it This belongs on [EMAIL PROTECTED], not [EMAIL PROTECTED] has it has *nothing* to do with -CURRENT. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: a better idea for package dependencies
Alright, I'll try to do it after I get something working. = | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best OS around.| | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| = On Mon, 8 May 2000, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Mon, 8 May 2000, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: pkg_delete -d package-version (or some other unused switch for dependancy) This might be a good option, but there should also be an automatic mode, whether or not it's the default. remove pkg_version_dependant [Y] ? y removed! remove pkg_version_dependant2 [Y] ? y error: some_other_package depends on pkg_version_dependant2! pkg_version_dependant2 is required by the following packages: foo-1.0 bar-2.0a blee-0.0001 remove pkg_version_dependant2 [Y] ? y Kris In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: rc.d startup scripts
Just curious, but wouldn't this be FreeSVR4??? :-) = | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best OS around.| | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| = On Tue, 9 May 2000, Tony Finch wrote: Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 7 May 2000, Doug Barton wrote: I'm going to reply to the system part of this too, replies to this thread should split off to -current. I have a design in mind for a new rc system that uses scripts with "start, stop, status" operators to both upgrade and downgrade services, where "services" are defined as groups of daemons/programs that work together. For example, "nfs" would be an example of a service, which would be subdivided into client and server, etc. Eivind Eklund made a prototype some time back which addressed this issue - you'd do well to take a look at that one first before reinventing the wheel :) Or you could use the system that NetBSD already has working. Tony. -- f.a.n.finch[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] 381 plastic fruit for a starving nation To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: rc.d startup scripts
Just curious, but wouldn't this be FreeSVR4??? :-) I'm going to assume that the smiley means you're joking, but I hope that we can stick to discussing this plan on its merits, rather than rejecting it out of hand because it's like something that someone else is doing. Yeah, I was just joking, I kinda like some things about SVR4, but I still think it would be nice to keep the option of using some of the regular rc scripts that we have now. Imagine the confusion of the people that have ONLY used FreeBSD when they go in and see rc.d and all it's scripts. Personally I kinda like the rc.d stuff better myself, but I'm just thinking about the average user. Ken To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: rc.d startup scripts
Yeah, I was just joking, I kinda like some things about SVR4, but I still think it would be nice to keep the option of using some of the regular rc scripts that we have now. Imagine the confusion of the people that have ONLY used FreeBSD when they go in and see rc.d and all it's scripts. Personally I kinda like the rc.d stuff better myself, but I'm just thinking about the average user. What does the average user do with the rc scripts? (BTW, I'm not being combative here, just using your letter as an opportunity...) In my outline we would still have /etc/rc.conf[.local], which is what the average user interacts with now. It's what happens behind the scenes that I want to change. The way that the various services get started. Instead of the arcane, confusing system of rc* files we have now (most of which grew out of necessity, don't get me wrong) we would have a system that could be used at startup, and then also used while the system is running to upgrade and downgrade individual bits, or groups of bits. Well, I guess I am not an average user then. I have customized most of my rc scripts. You are right though, it seems much better to "change what goes on behind the scenes" because it took me quite a while to learn what everything we have now did, and it took me only a day or two to figure out how to use the system you describe (well the back end anyway) Ken To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: proposed pkg_delete change
Yeah, but some ports and projects don't have the same beginning to their names which prompted me to make my suggestion. = | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best OS around.| | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| = On Tue, 9 May 2000, Doug Rabson wrote: On Mon, 8 May 2000, Mike Pritchard wrote: On Mon, May 08, 2000 at 02:10:28AM -0400, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: I have a suggestion for pkg_delete: Very often when I'm deleting a package (such as kde, after testing the port) I want to delete that package, and all it's dependancies; instead of going around looking for the dependancies, I think it would be a nice idea to add an option to pkg_delete to automatically delete all dependancies that aren't currently used by anything else. If nobody is interested in doing this, I can do it when I have some spare time (finals here at school). And then submit patches. That would have saved me a *lot* of time about a month ago when I went and weeded out all of my packages when my /usr filled up. I basically did what you are proposing by hand and it took forever. e.g. pkg_delete some_package - oops, it depends on pkg_xxx, delete that, oops, it depends on pkg_xxx2, and so on, when in reality that only reason any of those additional packages were installed were for the original package. I just go to /var/db/pkg and type 'pkg_delete kde*' a few times. After a while they all get deleted. -- Doug Rabson Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nonlinear Systems Ltd.Phone: +44 20 8442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
pcm static
I was just wondering what the status on the static in the pcm driver on the SoundBlaster ViBRA16X is... Just in case anyone forgot what I'm talking about, almost half the time when I start playing an mp3 or an mpg movie I get static out of the soundcard instead of music. If I keep restarting the song or movie, eventually I get music instead of static, but then every time I switch songs I get static about half the time again when the new song starts. Also, short wav files aren't playing all the way through again. = | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best OS around.| | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| = To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: Anyone else seeing jumpy mice?
I saw it once or twice in the last couple of weeks, when I'm kicking the hell out of the CPU (ie compiling something) = | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best OS around.| | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| = On Sun, 21 May 2000, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: No, I don't mean rodents who've nibbled on chocolate-covered expresso beans, I mean PS/2 mice which fall victim to this new problem: May 19 00:50:45 zippy /kernel: psmintr: out of sync (00c0 != ). I've seen it for the last few weeks and can only think that something must be stomping on the psm driver now (or the driver is missing interrupts for reasons of its own). Anyone else seeing this? - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: fatal trap 12 after lastest kernel build
did you follow Peter Wemm's instructions on the new config changes? = | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best NT upgrade| | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| = On Thu, 15 Jun 2000, Donn Miller wrote: I just built my kernel from kernel sources as of Thu Jun 15 13:49:59 EDT 2000, and immediately after the kernel is loaded, I get a "fatal trap 12: page fault while in supervisor mode". The uptime was 0s, so apparently, the boot loader must not like the kernel. But, I can boot a kernel from Jun 14 10:25 with the same boot loader. I did a make depend all install in /usr/src/sys/boot with the new sources, but still the same problem. Anyone else see this? - Donn To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: fatal trap 12 after lastest kernel build
Oh ok. well then I have no idea... :-) I thought that could be the problem... = | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best NT upgrade| | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| = On Thu, 15 Jun 2000, Donn Miller wrote: Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: did you follow Peter Wemm's instructions on the new config changes? Actually, I did. In fact, I built 2 or 3 kernels after the changes went into effect with no problems. It's just the sources that I cvsup'd as of an hour ago that's causing the problems. On Thu, 15 Jun 2000, Donn Miller wrote: I just built my kernel from kernel sources as of Thu Jun 15 13:49:59 EDT 2000, and immediately after the kernel is loaded, I get a "fatal trap 12: page fault while in supervisor mode". The uptime was 0s, so apparently, the boot loader must not like the kernel. But, I can boot a kernel from Jun 14 10:25 with the same boot loader. I did a make depend all install in /usr/src/sys/boot with the new sources, but still the same problem. Anyone else see this? - Donn To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message -- - Donn To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: GENERIC from today does not detect system console on my box
I had a wierder problem yesterday... I followed the new changes to the kernel config file, and included everything that belonged there, and yet for some reason, my kernel paniced while probing vga0 with an error number 6. I had to use a fixit floppy to get back into the system and compile a generic kernel, and from there make a new config file. The wierd part is I the panicing config and the non-panicing config both looked the same... (diff showed only differences in whitespace and comments as far as I could tell. Wierd... = | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best NT upgrade| | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| = On Fri, 16 Jun 2000, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: I tried booting a kernel this morning, just to see Peter's new "lean-n-mean" kernel config format in action, and I turned my workstation into a headless server in the process. :-) Most notably, these former entries were now missing from my dmesg output when I logged in remotely and poked around: atkbdc0: Keyboard controller (i8042) at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: AT Keyboard irq 1 on atkbdc0 psm0: PS/2 Mouse irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 vga0: Generic ISA VGA at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa-0xb on isa0 sc0: System console on isa0 JFYI... - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: Config problems
Hey chuck, except for the SMP stuff, your config looks mostly like mine (I only have a cpu line for i686) Let me know if there's anything I can do to help though. = | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best NT upgrade| | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| = On Sun, 25 Jun 2000, Chuck Robey wrote: I am getting a config error with the new gethints.pl stuff: unrecognized config token 1 This is with a newly cvsupped system, and I checked the version of gethints.pl: ROOT:/usr/src/sys/i386/conf:472 cvs status gethints.pl === File: gethints.pl Status: Up-to-date Working revision:1.4 Sun Jun 18 01:43:22 2000 Repository revision: 1.4 /home/ncvs/src/sys/i386/conf/gethints.pl,v Sticky Tag: (none) Sticky Date: (none) Sticky Options: (none) So I think that's right. My config file before had worked just fine, but as a test, I went thru it and really tried to make it squeaky clean, but it didn't seem to get rid of that error. I don't know if this message indicates a fatal problem or just is a leftover printf, there's damned little in the way of info in it. I don't know, maybe that error message is referring to line 1 of my config file? Here's the start of the config file: machine i386 cpu I586_CPU cpu I686_CPU ident CH maxusers64 # Create a SMP capable kernel (mandatory options): options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel options APIC_IO # Symmetric (APIC) I/O If that doesn't do it, I'm attaching the entire config file to this mail. Sure would appreciate a hint; I'm not a perl hacker, but if I gotta become one to puzzle this out, it's going to take me an long extra while trying to get me a new kernel. Chuck Robey| Interests include C Java programming, FreeBSD, [EMAIL PROTECTED] | electronics, communications, and signal processing. New Year's Resolution: I will not sphroxify gullible people into looking up fictitious words in the dictionary. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: Config problems
Well, I think maybe you have to put a number in if you want stuff wired down.. but basically I'm not sure if all the kinks have been worked out yet... = | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best NT upgrade| | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| = On Sun, 25 Jun 2000, Chuck Robey wrote: On Sun, 25 Jun 2000, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: Hey chuck, except for the SMP stuff, your config looks mostly like mine (I only have a cpu line for i686) Let me know if there's anything I can do to help though. I'm about ready to post again, so this is good timing. I got the totally vague warning from gethints.pl to quiet by making my disk section look much like the NOTES file. I then ran it by a brand new config, and out spewed more than 25 errors. The entire section on wiring down disks fails, and also all the stuff on npx, even tho that part was copied verbatim from NOTES. I have an Adaptec dual channel controller on my motherboard, and I have 3 disks and 2 cdroms, which I want to wire down. There's lines in the NOTES examples whose meanings just make no sense to me. Let me do a bit of quoting: [from NOTES] hint.scbus.0.at="ahc0" hint.scbus.1.at="ahc1" hint.scbus.1.bus="0" hint.scbus.3.at="ahc2" hint.scbus.3.bus="0" hint.scbus.2.at="ahc2" hint.scbus.2.bus="1" hint.da.0.at="scbus0" hint.da.0.target="0" hint.da.0.unit="0" hint.da.1.at="scbus3" hint.da.1.target="1" hint.da.2.at="scbus2" hint.da.2.target="3" hint.sa.1.at="scbus1" hint.sa.1.target="6" What does ``hint.scbus.1.bus="0"'' mean? Do I have to stick a number after the "device ahc" and "device scbus" lines (the NOTES file doesn't). Are there any other oddities I ought to know of? Chuck Robey| Interests include C Java programming, FreeBSD, [EMAIL PROTECTED] | electronics, communications, and signal processing. New Year's Resolution: I will not sphroxify gullible people into looking up fictitious words in the dictionary. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: Config problems
duh... that was too simple... :-) = | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best NT upgrade| | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| = On Mon, 26 Jun 2000, Peter Wemm wrote: Chuck Robey wrote: device da0 at scbus 0 target 0 device da1 at scbus 0 target 2 device da2 at scbus 1 target 1 device cd0 at scbus? device cd1 at scbus? Change 'scbus 0' to 'scbus0' and 'scbus 1' to 'scbus1' and the gethints.pl script will understand it. Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: What's going on with crypto all of a sudden ?
if you're using -CURRENT, it's because you havn't followed the advice about the new randomdev. = | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best NT upgrade| | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| = On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, Pascal Hofstee wrote: Just now after a new buildworld/installworld i am suddenly getting errors like the following when trying to use OpenSSH's version 1 protocoll: ssh: no RSA support in libssl and libcrypto. See ssl(8). Disabling protocol version 1 Protocol major versions differ: 2 vs. 1 man 8 sslresults into the following: No entry for ssl in section 8 of the manual This has been working just fine for months before. I get the idea it has something to do with the /dev/(random|zero) update. Anyone care to explain this ? -- Pascal Hofstee daeron @ shadowmere . student . utwente . nl Managers know it must be good because the programmers hate it so much. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: What's going on with crypto all of a sudden ?
Nothing to be sorry about... just read a little more carefully :-) = | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best NT upgrade| | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| = On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, Pascal Hofstee wrote: On Wed, Jun 28, 2000 at 04:28:24PM -0400, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: if you're using -CURRENT, it's because you havn't followed the advice about the new randomdev. Stumbled over it right after i sent the email sorry -- Pascal Hofstee daeron @ shadowmere . student . utwente . nl Managers know it must be good because the programmers hate it so much. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: What's going on with crypto all of a sudden ?
Hrmm, I think I just read somewhere (/usr/src/UPDATING?) that crypto is required to get a make world to work, and I guess certain other things won't work as well until you rebuild (?) :-) (:-P) if you're using -CURRENT, it's because you havn't followed the advice about the new randomdev. This doesn't explain why it suggests that the user reads a non-existent man page (ssl(8)) :-P = | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best NT upgrade| | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| = On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, Pascal Hofstee wrote: Just now after a new buildworld/installworld i am suddenly getting errors like the following when trying to use OpenSSH's version 1 protocoll: ssh: no RSA support in libssl and libcrypto. See ssl(8). Disabling protocol version 1 Protocol major versions differ: 2 vs. 1 man 8 sslresults into the following: No entry for ssl in section 8 of the manual This has been working just fine for months before. I get the idea it has something to do with the /dev/(random|zero) update. Anyone care to explain this ? -- Pascal Hofstee daeron @ shadowmere . student . utwente . nl Managers know it must be good because the programmers hate it so much. -- Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED]brian@[uk.]FreeBSD.org http://www.Awfulhak.org brian@[uk.]OpenBSD.org Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: What's going on with crypto all of a sudden ?
:-) Well, I didn't know that... That could explain it. = | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best NT upgrade| | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| = On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Sheldon Hearn wrote: On Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:25:05 -0400, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: Hrmm, I think I just read somewhere (/usr/src/UPDATING?) that crypto is required to get a make world to work, and I guess certain other things won't work as well until you rebuild (?) :-) (:-P) You're grasping at straws, since the ssl(8) manual page isn't installed. The base system's openssl maintainer still isn't sure what to do about the docs. :-) Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
new sound card
Alright, this just bit me in the ass... I just bought a card today that says "Creative Ensoniq AudioPCI" on the box. Well, as far as I can tell this card uses the es1371 chip. Well, I did a little digging because apparently the card's pci device id wasn't in the es137x.c file. So what I did was I put it in the file, and tried to make it configure as a 1371 chip. However I got an error when I did this: pcm0: AudioPCI ES1371 port 0xe400-0xe43f irq 11 at device 9.0 on pci0 pcm0: ac97 codec invalid or not present (id == 0) The mixer would not configure with this, and the driver wouldn't attach, so I went to ac97.c and found the error message, and commented out the "return ENODEV" statement so that I could make it attach the driver and see what would happen. Well, when I did that, I got another error in addition to the 2 above: pcm0: ac97 codec reports dac not ready however, the driver attaached, and I can use the mixer devices, and I can play CD's, but pcm audio still won't play, and there are no errors on the console when I try to play mp3's or any other kind of sounds. So I guess my question is: is anyone working on getting the device with id 0x58801274 (the closest card originally listed in the file was: 0x50001274) to work? Or does anyone already have this card working? Ken To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
more info on sound card
I managed to find a little more info on this chip in my new soundcard. It is slightly different from a regular es1371... and in linux it even get's some of its own #defines: CT5880REV_CT5880_C is it's revision. (or 0x02) and the chip says CT5880 on it. I'm assuming it's not much different, but so far in the linux driver, there are a couple of little differences between this chip and the regular 1371. If I get this working, I'll submit whatever I did to the driver to make it work, but I may need a little help here. Ken To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
patches for my new soundcard
I just got the soundcard to work, patches to /usr/src/sys/dev/sound/pci/ess137x.c are coming in a minute. Ken To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
patch to be committed please?
Here is a patch with the changes I made to get my soundcard to work. It
was pretty simple, it was just a matter of one more id that needed to be
added so that the ac97 stuff could be turned on. It was trying to do a
pre-ac97 2.1 init instead of what I should have been doing. Anyway, it
works now. :-)
Here it is:
--- es137x.c.oldSun May 28 11:15:14 2000
+++ es137x.cSat Jul 1 23:22:00 2000
@@ -68,6 +68,7 @@
#define ES1370_PCI_ID 0x50001274
#define ES1371_PCI_ID 0x13711274
#define ES1371_PCI_ID2 0x13713274
+#define ES1371_PCI_ID3 0x58801274
#define ES_BUFFSIZE 4096
@@ -493,7 +494,7 @@
es-ctrl = 0;
es-sctrl = 0;
/* initialize the chips */
- if (rev == 7 || rev = 9) {
+ if (rev == 7 || rev = 9 || rev == 2) {
#define ES1371_BINTSUMM_OFF 0x07
bus_space_write_4(es-st, es-sh, ES1371_BINTSUMM_OFF, 0x20);
if (debug 0) printf("es_init rev == 7 || rev = 9\n");
@@ -724,7 +725,8 @@
device_set_desc(dev, "AudioPCI ES1370");
return 0;
} else if (pci_get_devid(dev) == ES1371_PCI_ID ||
- pci_get_devid(dev) == ES1371_PCI_ID2) {
+ pci_get_devid(dev) == ES1371_PCI_ID2 ||
+ pci_get_devid(dev) == ES1371_PCI_ID3) {
device_set_desc(dev, "AudioPCI ES1371");
return 0;
}
@@ -789,7 +791,8 @@
}
if (pci_get_devid(dev) == ES1371_PCI_ID ||
- pci_get_devid(dev) == ES1371_PCI_ID2) {
+ pci_get_devid(dev) == ES1371_PCI_ID2 ||
+ pci_get_devid(dev) == ES1371_PCI_ID3) {
if(-1 == es1371_init(es, pci_get_revid(dev))) {
device_printf(dev, "unable to initialize the card\n");
goto bad;
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could someone with committer access commit this?
This is the patch to make my soundcard, a Creative Ensoniq AudioPCI (an
es1371 chip, device id 0x58801274 rev 0x02). Can someone commit it please?
Thanks.
--- es137x.c.oldSun May 28 11:15:14 2000
+++ es137x.cSat Jul 1 23:22:00 2000
@@ -68,6 +68,7 @@
#define ES1370_PCI_ID 0x50001274
#define ES1371_PCI_ID 0x13711274
#define ES1371_PCI_ID2 0x13713274
+#define ES1371_PCI_ID3 0x58801274
#define ES_BUFFSIZE 4096
@@ -493,7 +494,7 @@
es-ctrl = 0;
es-sctrl = 0;
/* initialize the chips */
- if (rev == 7 || rev = 9) {
+ if (rev == 7 || rev = 9 || rev == 2) {
#define ES1371_BINTSUMM_OFF 0x07
bus_space_write_4(es-st, es-sh, ES1371_BINTSUMM_OFF, 0x20);
if (debug 0) printf("es_init rev == 7 || rev = 9\n");
@@ -724,7 +725,8 @@
device_set_desc(dev, "AudioPCI ES1370");
return 0;
} else if (pci_get_devid(dev) == ES1371_PCI_ID ||
- pci_get_devid(dev) == ES1371_PCI_ID2) {
+ pci_get_devid(dev) == ES1371_PCI_ID2 ||
+ pci_get_devid(dev) == ES1371_PCI_ID3) {
device_set_desc(dev, "AudioPCI ES1371");
return 0;
}
@@ -789,7 +791,8 @@
}
if (pci_get_devid(dev) == ES1371_PCI_ID ||
- pci_get_devid(dev) == ES1371_PCI_ID2) {
+ pci_get_devid(dev) == ES1371_PCI_ID2 ||
+ pci_get_devid(dev) == ES1371_PCI_ID3) {
if(-1 == es1371_init(es, pci_get_revid(dev))) {
device_printf(dev, "unable to initialize the card\n");
goto bad;
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RE: Headsup! KSE Nay-sayers speak up!
On Mon, 27 Aug 2001, Garrett Wollman wrote: On Mon, 27 Aug 2001 09:34:06 -0700 (PDT), John Baldwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Just to get this out in the public: I for one think 5.x has enough changes in it and would like for KSE to be postponed to 6.0-current and 6.0-release. I agree. I'd like to see this stuff happen, but I think it's too disruptive a change while we still haven't yet gotten over many of the SMPng issues yet. Sorry to butt in on this conversation here, but wasn't one of the main points of 5.0 and SMPng to bring KSE's into FreeBSD? Ken To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: Headsup! KSE Nay-sayers speak up!
FreeBSD is going to be left in the dust unless both the SMPng *AND* KSE projects are integrated into 5.0. I care about having a system that works well and does what I ask of it. What the Linux horde is doing is of little concern to me, and I suspect the same goes for a number of other long-time FreeBSDers. Well, I've only been using FreeBSD for 4 or 5 years, and I don't really care what the linux horde is doing, but I would like to see FreeBSD surpass the other x86 OS's in terms of performance as well as uptime Ken To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: Headsup! KSE Nay-sayers speak up!
I have one system that I've been maintaining/updating since the 2.X days and I feel it's time to nuke it and start over. +1 for a non-smp system and SMP system. That said, I think the value of having both KSE and SMPng in 5.0 is HUGE and I think there is probably a large number of people that would be willing to endure kernel panics, dumps, etc. because the value (in terms of technological accomplishment and saleability in the corporate space) would be absolutely worth the bumpy road. -CURRENT isn't worth tracking unless the dumps, bugs, etc are all going toward both SMPng and KSE. Hey, anyone running -current without a tape drive attached with a daily dump schedule is either insane, a masochist, or both. Read my post from this morning about the mysterious filesystem corruption I had this morning... Kudos to Justin Gibbs for fixing EOM detection [let's get his scsi_sa.c patches committed ASAP]!!! Thanks for the heads up! Fortunately I have a few -STABLE systems that I can dump to and that host all of my email/development. ;) I'll probably go and pick up another 40+GB HD just for the extra head-room. If there are grave concerns about having KSE and SMPng in 5.X, then why not push back the release date? The value far outweighs the extra months needed to get it finished and out the door, but what do I know, I'm just a quiet kernel by standard making an observation. -sc Good idea. Seriously, is there any reason to hold to a time line at the expense of some very important and very fundamental enhancements to FreeBSD? I suppose that's something for -core to talk about/discuss, but I bet that if a poll was put on the homepage of FreeBSD.org (hint hint) asking about this, you'd get an overwhelming response to see KSE/SMPng in 5.X. With a poll you might even pick up some more testers given the exposure (hint hint). -sc If it's testers you want, submit a story on slashdot heh heh, I know a lot of BSDers that are converts from linux that want to test stuff, but only read slashdot for their computer news. Ken To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: Headsup! KSE believers should show up!
Well, I for one can test it on an alpha (I'm borrowing from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) as soon as my DSL gets installed ;-) Ken On Mon, 27 Aug 2001, Garance A Drosihn wrote: At 5:09 PM -0700 8/27/01, Darryl Okahata wrote: Is there some reason why KSE couldn't be integrated ASAP *AFTER* 5.0 is released? [ Personally, I'd like to see it in 5.0, but, with all the qualms that people seem to have, I'm curious as to why it can't be integrated immediately after 5.0 is cut? This way, Julian's MFCs are reduced, and it gives people more time to pound on KSE. ] In the interests of progress, let us assume for the moment that most of the qualms about KSE could be addressed by more testing of it, and a little more work for non-Intel platforms. Based on that assumption, anyone who is eager for KSE should realize that NOW is the time to step forward and help out with it. If we can get a reasonable amount of testing done in the next two or three weeks, then maybe we could get KSE committed for 5.0, and also get 5.0 released when we expected to release it. I think this would be the ideal outcome. If you have any energy to spare right now, let's put that energy towards the ideal outcome. But NOW is the time to help out, not in late October or November. I have changed the subject for this message, because I am hoping that a more positive subject might get a more positive result. Anyone who does think KSE is worth having for 5.0, should step up and provide Julian with the help needed to address the legitimate concerns which have been mentioned. Julian does not need people descending into a flame-war, he needs people to show up and help out. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn= [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Systems Programmer or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rensselaer Polytechnic Instituteor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: FreeBSD current is very slow
Well, FreeBSD-CURRENT will have bugs... That's why it's -CURRENT and not -STABLE Ken On Mon, 10 Sep 2001, Liu Siwei wrote: Hi,all: Do you run freebsd-current? what current? I make a clean SNAP of freebsd-current through make release. And make a CD. I install freebsd-current from my own CD. All things are fine. But its multimedia is not soundable. I compile gnome-1.4 on this current-SNAP smoothly from source through ports. But when I first run gnome desktop environment, it takes long time to appear desktop environment. But when I disable the gnome's sound event and restart it again, it is very quickly start up. This is one reason I say that. Secondly, I make mpg123 from ports by source(current ports). I start it in background like this: mpg123 my.mp3 , I use top command to see my system's load, I was surpised: mpg123 only takes no more than 5% system resources, but the interrupt TAKES more than 90% system resources. So my system is very slow to run other software. Why? and I want to know what's the interrupt and it relates what? Now, I have installed FreeBSD 4.4RC1. I compile mpg123 again, and play it background, I find the interrupt takes no more than 5% system resource! Is it FreeBSD-current's BUGs??? Best Regard. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: linuxulator unimplemented syscalls
On Thu, 29 Nov 2001, Dan Nelson wrote:
In the last episode (Nov 28), Kenneth Culver said:
I was just wondering if the following syscalls had any chance of being
implemented anytime soon?
linux: syscall ftruncate64 is obsoleted or not implemented (pid=5695)
linux: syscall mmap2 is obsoleted or not implemented (pid=5691)
linux: 'ioctl' fd=6, cmd=0x7201 ('r',1) not implemented
I'm wondering because I wanted to use the new transgaming winex to
run windows games (which would allow me to remove windows completely
from my computer) but it won't run because these syscalls aren't
supported.
I'm running -CURRENT from a few days ago, with the linux_base-7.1 linux
libraries. Thanks.
From Linux headers:
#define TUNIOCGETINFO 0x7201 /* get version of driver capabilities of tuner */
Doubtful that its failure will affect you. I assume ftruncate64()
should map almost directly onto our ftruncate(). Not sure what mmap2()
is.
Well, I switched to the linux_base-6.1 libs and all but the 0x7201 error
stopped occuring, but still the same problem, winex says it can't open the
the file that I'm trying to execute.
Ken
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Re: linuxulator unimplemented syscalls
Your problem is probably somewhere other than ioctl 0x7201; try trussing/stracing the app and see what it's trying to access. Alright, I'll try that, I think I have another clue though, I got it to find the file (it was looking in /usr/compat/linux/mnt/cdrom instead of the regular /mnt/cdrom I guess b/c it was running from linux) but now it's back to having problems with mmap2. I'll find the manpage on truss, and put some output here when I get some. Ken To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
Re: SoundBlaster PCI-128 performance
maybe you did. I'm not sure what the problem is then. Ken On 30 Nov 2001, Seth Kingsley wrote: On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 09:12:52AM -0500, Kenneth Culver wrote: On Friday 30 November 2001 02:44 am, you wrote: Have you tried different speakers? Also have you tried moving the soundcard to a different slot? maybe some other card is causing interferance. I have a card that uses the same driver and havn't had a problem. Oops, did I neglect to mention that it works perfectly under Windows 98 SE? -- || Seth Kingsley || Meow Meow Fluff Fluff || [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || rndcontrol -s 0 || To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message
patch for ds1 soundcard
I found on my computer that a ds1 builtin soundcard of type 10 (found in the file) will not init correctly unless the same 400ms wait is applied to it that is applied to type 8 cards. I have included a patch to make this happen. The patch was created against a -STABLE from today, but should not be too hard to get into -CURRENT as it only modifies one line of code. = | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best NT upgrade| | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| = Index: sys/dev/sound/pci/ds1.c === RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/dev/sound/pci/ds1.c,v retrieving revision 1.8.2.1 diff -r1.8.2.1 ds1.c 295c295 if (sc-type == 8) --- if (sc-type == 8 || sc-type == 10)
Re: keyboard problems with X
I have, like when I'm running tail on something, and then I try to ctrl-c out of it, the whole console locks solid, and I have to reboot. (although if I was connected to an ethernet, I think I could probably ssh in and reboot.) Also, as an unrelated problem in -CURRENT, I'm experiencing the lockmgr problems that were reported earlier. = | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best NT upgrade| | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| = On Sun, 30 Jul 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I updated my source tree yesterday (and kernel) and am having some problems with my keyboard under X. Has anyone else noticed anything strange. steve -- Steve Heistand [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: keyboard problems with X
Hrmm, that's even worse than my problem. = | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best NT upgrade| | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| = On Sun, 30 Jul 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem I am seeing is that the keyboard isnt even seen. Its useable up until about midway through the boot process, then it goes dead/locks up. The boot continues fine and the machine is up. The mouse is usable in X but not the keyboard. Cant even switch virtual consoles. steve I have, like when I'm running tail on something, and then I try to ctrl-c out of it, the whole console locks solid, and I have to reboot. (although if I was connected to an ethernet, I think I could probably ssh in and reboot.) Also, as an unrelated problem in -CURRENT, I'm experiencing the lockmgr problems that were reported earlier. = | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best NT upgrade| | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| = On Sun, 30 Jul 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I updated my source tree yesterday (and kernel) and am having some problems with my keyboard under X. Has anyone else noticed anything strange. steve -- Steve Heistand [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message -- Steve Heistand [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: keyboard problems with X
My problems are with a previous build of late last week. And my problem isn't with X. My problem only happens when you start "tail" on some file, then try to exit. It locks the console solid... neither the mouse nor the keyboard work. = | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best NT upgrade| | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| = On Sun, 30 Jul 2000, Chuck Robey wrote: On Sun, 30 Jul 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem I am seeing is that the keyboard isnt even seen. Its useable up until about midway through the boot process, then it goes dead/locks up. The boot continues fine and the machine is up. The mouse is usable in X but not the keyboard. Cant even switch virtual consoles. Is it useable or not, outside of X? Can you single-user boot and get the keyboard working? I am not clear if it's an X problem or a system problem. You said you updated your source tree yesterday. If that was from a recent build, then I don't know, but I'm very curious, just how old was your previous build? The config changed really radically maybe 2 months ago, so maybe your config file is hosed? steve I have, like when I'm running tail on something, and then I try to ctrl-c out of it, the whole console locks solid, and I have to reboot. (although if I was connected to an ethernet, I think I could probably ssh in and reboot.) Also, as an unrelated problem in -CURRENT, I'm experiencing the lockmgr problems that were reported earlier. = | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best NT upgrade| | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| = On Sun, 30 Jul 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I updated my source tree yesterday (and kernel) and am having some problems with my keyboard under X. Has anyone else noticed anything strange. steve -- Steve Heistand [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message Chuck Robey| Interests include C Java programming, FreeBSD, [EMAIL PROTECTED] | electronics, communications, and signal processing. New Year's Resolution: I will not sphroxify gullible people into looking up fictitious words in the dictionary. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: VM flakiness since Thursday
Just the lock stuff here, nothing else. = | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best NT upgrade| | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| = On Tue, 1 Aug 2000, Steve Hocking wrote: I've been noticing some crashes (the previously reported by others lock stuff) and some random sig 11s - any one else seeing this? Stephen -- The views expressed above are not those of PGS Tensor. "We've heard that a million monkeys at a million keyboards could produce the Complete Works of Shakespeare; now, thanks to the Internet, we know this is not true."Robert Wilensky, University of California To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: VM flakiness since Thursday
I'm in the process of tracing it out (in my small amount of spare time) to see where the problem is, and seeing if I can fix it, although I think this is over my head :-) I just wanna see if I can do it. = | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best NT upgrade| | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| = On Tue, 1 Aug 2000, Steve Hocking wrote: I've been noticing some crashes (the previously reported by others lock stuff) and some random sig 11s - any one else seeing this? Stephen -- The views expressed above are not those of PGS Tensor. "We've heard that a million monkeys at a million keyboards could produce the Complete Works of Shakespeare; now, thanks to the Internet, we know this is not true."Robert Wilensky, University of California To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: Possible bug in current?
Yeah, it's supposedly fixed now.
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On Tue, 1 Aug 2000, Damon Hammis wrote:
Has anyone else stumbled across this bug in 5.0-CURRENT? Whenever I try
to do a tail -f on a text file the system locks up and requires a hard
reboot.
Anyone else see anything similar?
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mixer no longer works
In -CURRENT cvsupped as of today, the mixer no longer works. anything that tries to access the mixer just says "Operation not permitted" = | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best NT upgrade| | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| = To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
forgot info on soundcard
Alright, I forgot to mention what soundcard I have before, so here goes: I have an es1371 card. To repeat the problem, with a day-old -current the mixer doesn't work. I have the sound drivers loaded as a module. Ken To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: mixer no longer works
Nope, I'm not using devfs. = | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best NT upgrade| | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| = On Sat, 2 Sep 2000, Cameron Grant wrote: In -CURRENT cvsupped as of today, the mixer no longer works. anything that tries to access the mixer just says "Operation not permitted" using devfs? -cg To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: xl driver
the same thing is happening to me, only my pci bus is getting probed 3 times. = | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best NT upgrade| | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| = On Sun, 3 Sep 2000, Warner Losh wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] R Joseph Wright writes: : Sep 3 13:24:26 manatee /kernel: xl0: 3Com 3c900-COMBO Etherlink XL port 0x6c00-0x6c3f irq 11 at device 9.0 on pci0 : Sep 3 13:24:26 manatee /kernel: xl1: 3Com 3c900-COMBO Etherlink XL port 0x6c00-0x6c3f irq 11 at device 9.0 on pci2 Looks like your pci bus is getting probed twice! Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: microuptime() went backwards
The point I'm making is that we've had these problems before SMPng, and that you can't automatically assume that it's SMPng just because you get the messages. On the other hand, the 7 digits seem to be a pretty reliable signature. I'm getting this error while starting XFree86 4.0.1 on my laptop computer, and I'm using FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE, so I'm sure it's not the SMP stuff that's causing it. Ken (it's a 600 MHz coppermine based celeron BTW with a mobile BX chipset) Ken To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: microuptime() went backwards
If I build the kernel without apm, then there is no clock because the statclock is broken on this computer. = | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best NT upgrade| | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| = On Fri, 8 Sep 2000, Greg Lehey wrote: On Friday, 8 September 2000 at 0:18:07 -0400, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: On Fri, 8 Sep 2000, Greg Lehey wrote: On Thursday, 7 September 2000 at 22:49:30 -0400, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: The point I'm making is that we've had these problems before SMPng, and that you can't automatically assume that it's SMPng just because you get the messages. On the other hand, the 7 digits seem to be a pretty reliable signature. I'm getting this error while starting XFree86 4.0.1 on my laptop computer, and I'm using FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE, so I'm sure it's not the SMP stuff that's causing it. Right, but you're not getting the 7 digit microsecond count, right? You should contact phk. Well, here is one of the messeges: Sep 7 14:35:55 laptop /kernel: microuptime() went backwards (10412.355980 - 10412, -694583121) this is bad.. right ? :-) Well, at any rate it looks very funny. If this is a laptop, try building a kernel without apm and see if that helps. Greg -- Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: microuptime() went backwards
Could all this be in any way related to the statclock not working on certain systems (like my Dell Inspiron)?? Also, could the "rtc" device as listed in systat -vm not being there (I'm assuming this is the statclock) be causing scheduling anomalies? I ask because I am trying to get gaim (multi-threaded, and using gtk which is threaded as well) to work on my laptop. It works on my desktop (-CURRENT), and on my friend's desktop (-STABLE) but not on my laptop (-STABLE). Just wondering... Thanks. = | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best NT upgrade| | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| = On Fri, 8 Sep 2000, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mike Smith writes: Sep 7 14:35:55 laptop /kernel: microuptime() went backwards (10412.355980 - 10412, -694583121)y this is bad.. right ? :-) Well, at any rate it looks very funny. If this is a laptop, try building a kernel without apm and see if that helps. It only helps "hide" the problem. There's either *extremely* bogus data coming in, or an arithmetic or sequencing error that's allowing a corrupt timecounter to be seen. It might help to see the negative number as hex... I have collected all the emails I've received and I have identified at least two different causes: There is a bogus i8254 implementation on certain Athlon Mobos, this is a non-brainer since they should not use the i8254 but the TSC. There are negative numbers coming in from both the i8254 and in a few cases from the TSC. NTIMECOUNTER may be too low for certain systems, I'm still waiting for some feedback on that. Either way, I have a patch which I need to burn in in my lab, but right now I have a hard time getting my SMP box to even print out "Copyright..." when it boots :-( -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD coreteam member | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
the SMPng stuff on UP
Alright, I just wanted to let everyone know that I have gotten the SMPng stuff up and working on my -CURRENT machine, and everything seems to work fine except the occasional "pcm0: hwptr went backwards x -- y" when I play sound and then do anything in X that involves moving a window. Oh, and also, my load avg runs at a constant 1.00 instead of 0.00 when I'm not using the machine, even though top reports 95-99% cpu idle. Ken To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
SMPng feedback
Alright, I've been using -CURRENT with the SMPng changes for a few days and wanted to give some feedback. Overall everything works, although I have been experienceing a few problems which may or may not be related. 1) When I'm playing music (mp3), and I move the mouse or move a window in X, the sound stutters and I get a pcm0: hwptr went backwards x - y (where x and y are different numbers). 2) the mouse is quite jumpy in X, especially while there is high cpu usage. I have tried to use both the usb mouse and the psm mouse (I have a usb to psm adapter) and the behaviour is the same with all mice I've tried. ( a logitec optical mouse, and a ms intellimouse with the ball, not optical) These have been the only noticable changes to my system since the update... I have built the world with the changes in the kernel without problems so they seem stable enough, just kinda slow. Ken To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: SMPng feedback
IT's new as of last night. There is a random there, but it's not doing anything when I move the mouse. = | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best NT upgrade| | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| = On Tue, 19 Sep 2000, Mark Murray wrote: 1) When I'm playing music (mp3), and I move the mouse or move a window in X, the sound stutters and I get a pcm0: hwptr went backwards x - y (where x and y are different numbers). 2) the mouse is quite jumpy in X, especially while there is high cpu usage. I have tried to use both the usb mouse and the psm mouse (I have a usb to psm adapter) and the behaviour is the same with all mice I've tried. ( a logitec optical mouse, and a ms intellimouse with the ball, not optical) How old is your build? Do you have the kthreaded /dev/random driver? (do a top -S and look for a process called "random" when you wiggle your mouse). M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: SMPng feedback
Personally, the whole system seems a bit sluggish with the SMPng stuff there... I'm assuming this will be fixed later. = | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best NT upgrade| | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| = On Tue, 19 Sep 2000, Alexander Leidinger wrote: On 18 Sep, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: 1) When I'm playing music (mp3), and I move the mouse or move a window in X, the sound stutters and I get a pcm0: hwptr went backwards x - y (where x and y are different numbers). I see this too. If I use xmms instead of mpg123 I didn't need to move the mouse. Perhaps something interrupt related. I see alot (more than usual) of interrupts in top (if the displayed information is correct). But perhaps this is just an "I want to see something different" experience, I have no similiar system to compare with. Bye, Alexander. -- The best things in life are free, but the expensive ones are still worth a look. http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander @ Leidinger.net GPG fingerprint = 7423 F3E6 3A7E B334 A9CC B10A 1F5F 130A A638 6E7E To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: SMPng feedback
OK - its not my random driver, then :-). Well, unless your random driver is not attached to the ums device... It does something when I use the mouse attached to the psm device... and the mouse is still jumpy. Ken To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: new idle_proc() makes my laptop very hot
I can second this... on my PC the cpu used to run around about 84 degrees F with the case at 80 degrees F, now the cpu runs at about 91-93 degrees F while the case runs at 80 degrees F. = | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best NT upgrade| | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| = On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, Takaya Ogawa wrote: Hi. After new idle_proc() committed to the tree, my laptop become very hot as if under heavy cpu load even when cpu is actually 95%~ idle. If I understand collectly, idle_proc() doesn't contain any HLT instruction in i386 UP case which former idle() had. Attached patch adds back the HLT in i386 UP case and seems to fix my problem, although I'm totally unfamiliar with SMP nor alpha. Other than that, current runs quite fine in normal operation here. Thanks. -- Takaya Ogawa [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: new idle_proc() makes my laptop very hot
I don't have it enabled... I am not even on my laptop with -CURRENT... this is on my regular PC... and I'm taking my thermal readings by banging around on some memory addys through /dev/io with a little hack of a program I wrote as a windowmaker dockapp for this purpose... = | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best NT upgrade| | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| = On Thu, 21 Sep 2000, Mike Smith wrote: I can second this... on my PC the cpu used to run around about 84 degrees F with the case at 80 degrees F, now the cpu runs at about 91-93 degrees F while the case runs at 80 degrees F. While you're tinkering with SMPng, be VERY SURE that you do not have acpi enabled (ie. make sure it's not in your kernel config). We're not yet handling thermal management, and this *will* hurt you. -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: new idle_proc() makes my laptop very hot
My system fans always stay on... but again this is not in a laptop .. it is on my regular pc... = | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best NT upgrade| | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| = On Thu, 21 Sep 2000, Mike Smith wrote: My laptop does seem to run *MUCH* warmer than before as well. It runs hot to begin with, but with the latest kernels it runs really hot. It used to get this hot only when I compiled -j 4. I don't have ACPI enabled and am using UP kernel. There really needs to be a HLT in the idle loop to keep idle machines cools. If I remember from a discussion with John Baldwin, the reason we don't do this (yet) is that HLT only wakes up when you take an interrupt, and there are cases where we can't guarantee that we'll take an interrupt in order to get us out of the HLT. The thermal management code, iirc, works in conjunction with this by lower the clock rate when things aren't too loaded, but that is a fairly complex thign to wait for. It also seems to help mostly on lightly loaded machines. HLT helps more than you'd otherwise think...c HLT helps a lot, yes, but the thermal management code is responsible for running the system fan(s) in ACPI mode as well as throttling the CPU. In some cases, that's a real issue (eg. I'm building the world now and extremely worried about how hot this system is because I forgot to turn ACPI off first. 8) -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
fdc problem
as of a few days ago, for some reason my floppy drive controller does not probe right with -CURRENT... I've attached a dmesg, a kernel config, and my hints file as kernstuff.tar Please let me know if I've made some dumb mistake or something in my configs... Kenneth Culver kernstuff.tar
Re: -CURRENT crashes under heavy disk activity
Alright, I think I may just do that too... I was going to try to tough it out... but it looks like that just won't work I wish there was some way to get the other changes without getting the SMP stuff though. = | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best NT upgrade| | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| = On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, Michael Reifenberger wrote: On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: ... To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: -CURRENT crashes under heavy disk activity This is a well known issue. See the -current archive for more information. Search for "vmstat" and "FFS". Bye! Michael Reifenberger ^.*Plaut.*$, IT, R/3 Basis, GPS To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: -CURRENT crashes under heavy disk activity
I see.. just cvs update src/sys/dev/ata or something like that I guess.. :-) I'll probably do that then. = | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best NT upgrade| | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| = On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, Soren Schmidt wrote: It seems Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: Alright, I think I may just do that too... I was going to try to tough it out... but it looks like that just won't work I wish there was some way to get the other changes without getting the SMP stuff though. You update the ata driver to the lastest no probs that I know :) -Søren To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: -CURRENT crashes under heavy disk activity
Well, I downgraded to PRE_SMPNG and it still crashes on heavy disk activity. = | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best NT upgrade| | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| = On Mon, 25 Sep 2000, Stanislav Grozev wrote: On Fri, Sep 22, 2000 at 03:37:32PM -0400, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: I will try to build a debug kernel, and get a backtrace of what's happening to send to the list, but basically what happened is that I was running a cvsup of the cvs source repository and the ports repository and it just crashed and rebooted (I'm doing this remotely, so I can't really catch any messeges that get sent to the screen right now, not until I go home from work). The second time it happened was doing the cvs update of my source tree and ports tree, and it just crashed and rebooted.. I will make a debug kernel and do a backtrace and send it as soon as I possibly can. i've experienced the same things: -CURRENT crashes on heavy disk activity, such as rm -rf /usr/ports or cvsup/anoncvs. it crashesh hard - no panic, just freezes... downgrading to PRE_SMPNG fixes it. -tacho -- [i don't follow] | [http://daemonz.org/ || [EMAIL PROTECTED]] [everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler] 0x44FC3339 || [02B5 798B 4BD1 97FB F8DB 72E4 DCA4 BE03 44FC 3339] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: ESS1879 hwptr went backward?
-CURRENT as of the smpng commits is really unstable... it's even somewhat unstable before that (I was having crashes on heavy disk activity even at the smpng commit, which could've been just my lack of knowledge of cvs and screwing up my source tree, but that's what was happening.) = | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best NT upgrade| | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| = On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Karl M. Joch wrote: Notebook: KAPOK 8700 (sold under different brands) 233Mhz MMX, 128 MB, 4GB, ESS 1879 sound: the ESS 1879 is correctly detected when booting. also cat /dev/sndstat shows up ESS 1878 irq5 io 240 1:3 (1p:1r). also tried it with using only one DMA. but when trying to play ( cat somesound.au /dev/audio) i get the message: hwptr went backwards 0-4092 and the system crashes hard. only power off possible. i havnt used sound for a longer time, but i am sure in 3.4 it has played with pcm. running Current of 26th Sep. -- my open problems: reboot shutdown -r hangs the box. (shutdown works, after pressing a key i see rebooting, then screen is black and box hangs) staroffice 52 works fine under KDE2 except when having a network connection (mail, www) the statusline says making connection to somehost (netstat shows a connection) and it waits forever. vmware and serial: when i run the nokia pc suite for the communicator on NT/vmware and connect to the mobile i can see the data. small transfers works fine. when trying to do a backup it looks like there is a communication problem when sending more data. parts of the data are transfered but the it displays an error. as usual without any hints under windows. already slowed down to 9600. no success. browsing the gsm fones data works. there is one message when booting: isa0: too many dependant configs (8). ?? -- thanks for any tips. Karl _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: TI1225 CardBus controller
It doesn't work for cardbus. = | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best NT upgrade| | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| = On Thu, 5 Oct 2000, Julian Elischer wrote: Blaz Zupan wrote: Could somebody who has a laptop with a TI1225 PC card controller chip please contact me? My idea currently is to print out the values of important chip registers on a laptop and on a desktop and check what the differences are. This way I may be able to find out what the driver is missing out in the initialization. The Dell Inspiron 7500 has one.. works just fine.. pcic-pci0: TI PCI-1225 PCI-CardBus Bridge at device 4.0 on pci0 pcic-pci0: TI12XX PCI Config Reg: [ring enable][speaker enable][pwr save][FUNC p ci int + CSC serial isa irq] pcic-pci1: TI PCI-1225 PCI-CardBus Bridge at device 4.1 on pci0 pcic-pci1: TI12XX PCI Config Reg: [ring enable][speaker enable][pwr save][FUNC p ci int + CSC serial isa irq] ... pccard: card inserted, slot 0 sio4 at port 0x2e8-0x2ef irq 9 slot 0 on pccard0 sio4: type 16550A -- __--_|\ Julian Elischer / \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( OZ) World tour 2000 --- X_.---._/ presently in: Perth v To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
RE: -current grinds exceeding slow
I use 0.85, I had some wierd problems with it in -CURRENT. I've moved down to 4.1.1-STABLE till some of this stuff in -CURRENT cools down. = | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best NT upgrade| | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| = On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, Daniel O'Connor wrote: On 12-Oct-00 Bob Bishop wrote: It's not. My current box that is having problems has an fxp0 card. BTW, what speed is your processor? I'm curious because the PPro 200 I have here is having problems, but the PIII-700 isn't very affected. Try removing SMP_DEBUG from your config (see Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] from Jason Evans on this thread). That worked for me... Does anyone here run the really new version of Licq? I know it sounds dumb, but it seems that if I run it and do some reasonably heavy disk, processes start getting stuck in things like vnlock, inode and ffsvgt... --- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
docs for via kt133 south bridge
I was wondering if any of the developers here had any docs for the via kt133 south bridge. I need the docs so that I can write a driver for the hardware monitoring features of this chip... I looked on via's website, but the docs there are incomplete... Ken To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: docs for via kt133 south bridge
I think one of our Japanese friends has been trying to get these docs from VIA. With little luck it seems. Hrmm, well I'll send a messege or something over to VIA... I'm going to make this driver in such a way that it would be easy to add more drivers for other hwmon stuff in the future... Ken To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
