USB (mouse) problem
hi, recently i installed freebsd 5 current on an asus m2400n notebook. most things work fine so far, but one ugly problem left: every time i plug in my usb mouse the system freezes. the system is really dead then (needs to be rebooted) - even the light on the optical mouse is swiched off. Any ideas ? thx seb ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: USB (mouse) problem
On Sun, 2003-11-02 at 15:18, Andre Guibert de Bruet wrote: On Sun, 2 Nov 2003, sebastian ssmoller wrote: hi, recently i installed freebsd 5 current on an asus m2400n notebook. most things work fine so far, but one ugly problem left: every time i plug in my usb mouse the system freezes. the system is really dead then (needs to be rebooted) - even the light on the optical mouse is swiched off. Please read the handbook on the proper form for problem reports. In the sorry for not providing enough information. i did not want to submit a problem report. i just wanted to see whether somebody has similar problems and whether it really is a problem - or i am just not clever enough to configure my system ... :) so here are further info: -i tried both: x11 and vt (console). plugging in the mouse always causes system freeze -uname -a: FreeBSD hadriel.linnet 5.1-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.1-CURRENT #0: Sun Nov 2 16:37:45 CET 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SND i386 -a could not found any further info about this crash (trace, log file) -i attached my kernel config file -unfort. i do not have a proper cable to set up a serial connection/console :( -what kind of info should the boot -s command provide (i could not find this command on my system) ? so is there anybody with similar problems/experiences ? thx seb (...) # # GENERIC -- Generic kernel configuration file for FreeBSD/i386 # # For more information on this file, please read the handbook section on # Kernel Configuration Files: # #http://www.FreeBSD.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-config.html # # The handbook is also available locally in /usr/share/doc/handbook # if you've installed the doc distribution, otherwise always see the # FreeBSD World Wide Web server (http://www.FreeBSD.org/) for the # latest information. # # An exhaustive list of options and more detailed explanations of the # device lines is also present in the ../../conf/NOTES and NOTES files. # If you are in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check first # in NOTES. # # $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC,v 1.392 2003/09/19 20:04:55 joerg Exp $ machine i386 cpu I686_CPU ident FIRST #To statically compile in device wiring instead of /boot/device.hints #hints GENERIC.hints #Default places to look for devices. makeoptions DEBUG=-g#Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols options SCHED_4BSD #4BSD scheduler options INET#InterNETworking options INET6 #IPv6 communications protocols options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options SOFTUPDATES #Enable FFS soft updates support options UFS_ACL #Support for access control lists options UFS_DIRHASH #Improve performance on big directories options MD_ROOT #MD is a potential root device options NFSCLIENT #Network Filesystem Client options NFSSERVER #Network Filesystem Server options NFS_ROOT#NFS usable as /, requires NFSCLIENT options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem options CD9660 #ISO 9660 Filesystem options PROCFS #Process filesystem (requires PSEUDOFS) options PSEUDOFS#Pseudo-filesystem framework options COMPAT_43 #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options COMPAT_FREEBSD4 #Compatible with FreeBSD4 options SCSI_DELAY=15000#Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI options KTRACE #ktrace(1) support options SYSVSHM #SYSV-style shared memory options SYSVMSG #SYSV-style message queues options SYSVSEM #SYSV-style semaphores options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING #Posix P1003_1B real-time extensions options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV# install a CDEV entry in /dev options AHC_REG_PRETTY_PRINT# Print register bitfields in debug # output. Adds ~128k to driver. options AHD_REG_PRETTY_PRINT# Print register bitfields in debug # output. Adds ~215k to driver. # Debugging for use in -current options DDB #Enable the kernel debugger options INVARIANTS #Enable calls of extra sanity checking options INVARIANT_SUPPORT #Extra sanity checks of internal structures, required by INVARIANTS options WITNESS #Enable checks to detect deadlocks and cycles options WITNESS_SKIPSPIN#Don't run witness on spinlocks for speed # To make an SMP kernel, the next two are needed #optionsSMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel #options
Re: Bad performance
here is my vmstat -i output: interrupt total rate stray irq01 0 stray irq71 0 npx0 irq131 0 ata0 irq1492143 2 ata1 irq15 20 0 uhci0 irq11 1 0 pcm0 irq936 0 rl0 irq1011 0 rl1 irq11 77987 2 fdc0 irq6 1 0 atkbd0 irq16946 0 clk irq03180967 99 rtc irq84071093127 Total 7429208233 apart from some icq sharing it seems to be ok, doesnt it ? i turned of acpi on startup an voila :) : gdm starts two times faster as before (!) (30s - 15-17s) can anyone explain me why, pls ? and the other question is: do i really need acpi ? i run a desktop system so suspend/resume is not interesting for me. does fbsd/acpi supend the disk when the system idles ? (linux does not) thx seb On Sat, 2003-09-13 at 15:28, Max Laier wrote: Interrupts?! Check $vmstat -i ACPI? Try disableing it. I have a VIA chipset as well and my ata IRQs just went crazy when used with ACPI. GL (...) ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bad performance
(...) hi, I agree with the general concensus that this shows all the symptoms of a network or DNS problem - though the switch from SIS to nVidia may have disturbed X. Did you change any system configuration (hostname etc) when you moved the disk? Is the 'production' environment identical network-wise to your test environment? Have you re-configured X to use the different video card? when i moved the disk i didn't change any network setting. the only difference is that the prod. system has two network cards (both realtek). i first configured X to use the native nvidia driver but now i am running the X11 builtin nvidia driver. Seems to make no difference in performance for me. How are you starting gdm, gnome2 etc? I gather gdm isn't started via /etc/ttys but manually from a vty. I presume you are using gdm to start X. i start gdm using /usr/X11R6/etc/rc.d/gdm.sh as mentioned in docs. to give u some numbers: -starting gdm takes 30 s from command line to login screen (see last post: only 15s with acpi disabled (why?) ) -starting gnome2 takes 25 s from login until nautilus has drawn the desktop i guess this is not really fast, isnt it ? Can you log in from a second system? If so, what is happening during the startup delay? Does top show the system is very heavily loaded or doing nothing (all processes waiting)? good idea i havnt tried this yet. i ll do theses days ... Before you start gdm, can you ping your system by hostname? Are there any other hostname mentioned in your gdm configuration file? Can you ping them all? i looked at the /usr/X11R6/etc/gdm/gdm.conf file but i havnt found any hostname specific setting. what exactly shall i look for ? Have you checked your /etc/nsswitch.conf and /etc/resolv.conf? Is the output from 'ifconfig -a' and 'netstat -r' correct? after i have fixed some bugs in named config now ipconfig -a and netstat -r output is ok and both answer in no time (means to timeout). Have a look through all the files in /var/log that have been updated recently and check for errors - especially XFree86.0.log, daemon and messages. Have a look in the gdm log file (I'm not sure where this is by default). Are there any messages on either the console or vty from which you started gdm? (Use Ctrl-Alt-Fn to get from X to vtyn and then Alt-Fn to switch between vtys. You can use ScrollLock and PgUp/PgDn/Up/Down to scroll back. Press ScrollLock again to get back to normal). i had a first look at the config files u named but i could not see any interesting error or warning. i will check this in detail later. Is any part of your system NFS-mounted? Is X using a fontserver? Are all these servers responding? currently i do not run nfs (client/server) or fontserver. Are you running a GENERIC or custom kernel? Do you have any firewall functions enabled? i use a custom kernel. i have removed some scsi devices cause i am running an ide system. and i moved this debugging stuff. the firewall is not running on startup cause i use a dial up connection. btw: the mozilla-firebird performance problem mention earlier seems to be something different: firebird launches relativly fast and as soon as running i can us the menus and everything which is reachable via mouse. but as soon as i use the keyboard (e.g. typing an internet addr) or switch the window into background and back into foreground moz-firebird hangs for minutes (!). but this only happens the first time after start. when it runs it performs rather good i will try to build a new version these days and will see what happens ... thx for ur hints seb Peter ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Bad performance
On Wed, 2003-09-17 at 20:16, Don Bowman wrote: From: sebastian ssmoller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ... i turned of acpi on startup an voila :) : gdm starts two times faster as before (!) (30s - 15-17s) can anyone explain me why, pls ? I wonder how hot your processor is? perhaps ACPI is throttling the clock back, either duty cycle or frequency. In your bios you can set the power mode, perhaps you can set 'full power always'. lmmon might show something. here is my lmmon output. Motherboard Temp Voltages 255C / 491F / 528KVcore1: +3.984V Vcore2: +3.984V Fan Speeds + 3.3V: +3.984V + 5.0V: +6.654V 1:0 rpm+12.0V: +15.938V 2:0 rpm-12.0V: -15.938V 3:0 rpm- 5.0V: -6.654V i'm not sure whether this output is correct : 255 C ?? so this should be a reason for acpi to throttling the cpu, doesnt it ? :) can u give me a hint how to correct these values ? (cause hardware is ok this should be a software/config probem (?) thx seb ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bad performance
On Wed, 2003-09-17 at 20:42, Steve Kargl wrote: On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 08:31:52PM +0200, sebastian ssmoller wrote: Motherboard Temp Voltages 255C / 491F / 528KVcore1: +3.984V Vcore2: +3.984V Fan Speeds + 3.3V: +3.984V + 5.0V: +6.654V 1:0 rpm+12.0V: +15.938V 2:0 rpm-12.0V: -15.938V 3:0 rpm- 5.0V: -6.654V i'm not sure whether this output is correct : 255 C ?? so this should be a reason for acpi to throttling the cpu, doesnt it ? 0 rpm? Are you sure your fans are working? yes i am :) but the question is why fbsd doesnt see this ? the hardware is set up properly (cause bios displays correct rpm/temp etc) ... As for cpu throttling try the following troutmask:kargl[225] sysctl -a | grep acpi.cpu hw.acpi.cpu.max_speed: 2 hw.acpi.cpu.current_speed: 2 hw.acpi.cpu.performance_speed: 2 hw.acpi.cpu.economy_speed: 1 i will try this thx seb ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fsck failed after hard crash
(...) unexpected soft-update inconsistency, unable to write block, etc. going back to my 9/9/2003 good kernel, it works. i tried to use my old kernel; build with sources from fbsd 5.1 release). i rebooted the system and started fsck -y /usr again but the same problems occur :( now there are two possibilities i guess: - something in userland is broken too - my ufs2 is really dead I'm using ufs1, FWIW, and my userland is from september 9 as well. So, either 5.1R is too far back or you are in trouble. FWIW. so here i go again :) - partly at least ... i booted the live CD and was able to fix my ufs2 fs (still some errors reported but marked as clean). then i re-installed the sources from fbsd 5.1 release cd, built a new kernel and did a make world - everything seems to be ok now :) so there seems to be something broken in sources from 13.9.2003 ? seb (...) ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bad performance
hi, i did a lot of changes and tests last night :) -u were right there was a bug in the network config (i fixed some named entries) now netstat -r is really fast (no timeouts which occured before) -i wrote a simple c test program using gethostname, gethostbyname, gethostbyaddr as suggested it work fine -i disabled all these debugging options in kernel and did that ln -s aj /etc/malloc.conf thing all in all performance seem to be better now :) BUT: i have a lot trouble with the new kernel (without debug) - pf.ko cannot be loaded - evolution is unable to send mails (core dump) - possible a different problem - vmware crashes - AND: the whole system crashed 3 times with FS problems since the last crash i am unable to clean up the ufs2 using fsck !!! now my system is DEAD i guess :'( any ideas how to at least be able to boot fbsd agian ?? many thx seb -- COMPUTERBILD 15/03: Premium-e-mail-Dienste im Test -- 1. GMX TopMail - Platz 1 und Testsieger! 2. GMX ProMail - Platz 2 und Preis-Qualitätssieger! 3. Arcor - 4. web.de - 5. T-Online - 6. freenet.de - 7. daybyday - 8. e-Post ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
fsck failed after hard crash
hi, i did cvsup for /usr/src yesterday and did a build world. i also build a new kernel without all these debugging things. i rebooted the system and everything went fine first but then i tried to recompile pf_freebsd and the system crashed. i rebooted and did fsck and tried the rebuild again - same thing :( reboot again, fsck with many errors (some sectors could not be written, inconsistancy soft updates). i managed to start gnome2 agian. i started vmware and ... crash agin :'( so i thought of using the old kernel again but when i restart and run fsck it is NOT able to mark /usr as clean !! :( what can i do now ? any ideas ? thx seb -- COMPUTERBILD 15/03: Premium-e-mail-Dienste im Test -- 1. GMX TopMail - Platz 1 und Testsieger! 2. GMX ProMail - Platz 2 und Preis-Qualitätssieger! 3. Arcor - 4. web.de - 5. T-Online - 6. freenet.de - 7. daybyday - 8. e-Post ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fsck failed after hard crash
Am Son, 2003-09-14 um 17.30 schrieb Steve Kargl: On Sun, Sep 14, 2003 at 11:42:21AM +0200, Sebastian Ssmoller wrote: i did cvsup for /usr/src yesterday and did a build world. i also build a new kernel without all these debugging things. If you're running FreeBSD-current, I would suggest that you put the debugging options back into your kernel. sorry to forget to post these info's: i am running freebsd-current. started with 5.1 release and updated yesterday. i removed the debugging stuff from the kernel cause i wanted to check the possible performance difference. i rebooted the system and everything went fine first but then i tried to recompile pf_freebsd and the system crashed. Without debugging or even a panic message, it is fairly difficult to make any useful suggestions i agree but this would be difficult when being unable to reboot the system :) . i rebooted and did fsck and tried the rebuild again - same thing :( Panic message? no message :( first time it froze , second time it rebooted. reboot again, fsck with many errors (some sectors could not be written, inconsistancy soft updates). i managed to start gnome2 agian. i started vmware and ... crash agin :'( Are you sure you don't want to run FreeBSD 4.8? good question :) so i thought of using the old kernel again but when i restart and run fsck it is NOT able to mark /usr as clean !! :( what can i do now ? any ideas ? When fsck fails to clean /usr are there any error messages? What fsck command did you issue to clean up /usr? Did you try using an alternate super block? i ran: fsck -y /usr and it complains several times (!) about unexpected soft-update inconsistency and unable to write block :( i have not tried an alternate super block yet - i was not sure whether this could help, could it ? What compiler flags did you use to build the kernel? i used default settings finally i found out that i can mount /usr readonly so a backup could be possible (?); creating new ufs2 and restore backup could be a possible solution (?) thx seb -- Steve ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fsck failed after hard crash
Am Son, 2003-09-14 um 17.49 schrieb Larry Rosenman: I'm seeing similar messages from fsck: unexpected soft-update inconsistency, unable to write block, etc. going back to my 9/9/2003 good kernel, it works. i tried to use my old kernel; build with sources from fbsd 5.1 release). i rebooted the system and started fsck -y /usr again but the same problems occur :( now there are two possibilities i guess: - something in userland is broken too - my ufs2 is really dead any ideas ? seb so I think SOMETHING broke here. LER --On Sunday, September 14, 2003 08:30:51 -0700 Steve Kargl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Sep 14, 2003 at 11:42:21AM +0200, Sebastian Ssmoller wrote: i did cvsup for /usr/src yesterday and did a build world. i also build a new kernel without all these debugging things. If you're running FreeBSD-current, I would suggest that you put the debugging options back into your kernel. i rebooted the system and everything went fine first but then i tried to recompile pf_freebsd and the system crashed. Without debugging or even a panic message, it is fairly difficult to make any useful suggestions. i rebooted and did fsck and tried the rebuild again - same thing :( Panic message? reboot again, fsck with many errors (some sectors could not be written, inconsistancy soft updates). i managed to start gnome2 agian. i started vmware and ... crash agin :'( Are you sure you don't want to run FreeBSD 4.8? so i thought of using the old kernel again but when i restart and run fsck it is NOT able to mark /usr as clean !! :( what can i do now ? any ideas ? When fsck fails to clean /usr are there any error messages? What fsck command did you issue to clean up /usr? Did you try using an alternate super block? What compiler flags did you use to build the kernel? -- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 972-414-9812 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749 ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bad performance
hi, i recently switched from mandrake to freebsd. i used a second system, to install freebsd 5.1 (release) on a 15 gb western digital disk. i installed the whole system without problems and managed to start gdm and gnome2. everything worked fine and performance (launching gdm, gnome2 and firebird) was really good (better then mdk :) then i moved the disk from the hardware used during install into the production environment which includes VIA 82C8363 (Apollo KT133A) board, NVidia GeForce2 grafic card (using nvidia native driver for x11), AMD Duron 750 MHz, 512 mb ram. everything worked fine again. BUT: launching gdm needs a lot of time, same for gnome2. when i start moz-firebird i am unabled to use it for minutes (!) until it reacts on user events (typing inet adress into address bar), same for gaim. i checked the ata settings; the drive is running in udma66 (as expected). cause i am new to *bsd i do not really know where to start or what further information to provide. any hint/idea would be great ! thx for ur help seb ps: the system i used to installed fbsd first is: AMD Duron 800 MHz, VIA VT8363/8365 [KT133/KM133] board, old SIS 8MB pci video card, 256 mb ram ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bad performance
On Sat, 2003-09-13 at 15:08, Arjan van Leeuwen wrote: On Saturday 13 September 2003 14:52, sebastian ssmoller wrote: hi, i recently switched from mandrake to freebsd. i used a second system, to install freebsd 5.1 (release) on a 15 gb western digital disk. i installed the whole system without problems and managed to start gdm and gnome2. everything worked fine and performance (launching gdm, gnome2 and firebird) was really good (better then mdk :) then i moved the disk from the hardware used during install into the production environment which includes VIA 82C8363 (Apollo KT133A) board, NVidia GeForce2 grafic card (using nvidia native driver for x11), AMD Duron 750 MHz, 512 mb ram. everything worked fine again. BUT: launching gdm needs a lot of time, same for gnome2. when i start moz-firebird i am unabled to use it for minutes (!) until it reacts on user events (typing inet adress into address bar), same for gaim. i checked the ata settings; the drive is running in udma66 (as expected). cause i am new to *bsd i do not really know where to start or what further information to provide. any hint/idea would be great ! thx for ur help seb ps: the system i used to installed fbsd first is: AMD Duron 800 MHz, VIA VT8363/8365 [KT133/KM133] board, old SIS 8MB pci video card, 256 mb ram Some things you might want to check: 1) Is your hostname set? It has to be set in /etc/rc.conf. is set correcly 2) Is your hostname properly configure in /etc/hosts? It should look something like this: 127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.my.domain 127.0.0.1 hostname hostname.my.domain 127.0.0.1 hostname.my.domain. (note the dot after the last line. hostname.my.domain should be the output of 'hostname', and hostname the output of 'hostname -s') seems to be correct too. btw. i use a DNS server (freebsd's std bind) which seems to work correctly too (responses ok, performance ok). firebird and gaim performance is ok when running, the bad perf. occurs on startup :( so currently i think it could be a problem with ide controler oder disk/drive settings (?) 3) Are you using IPv6? If not, try disabling it in your kernel. i do not need IPv6 but is still enabled. i will disable it. do u think this could have such an incluence on performace ? thx for ur hints seb Arjan ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bad performance
On Sat, 2003-09-13 at 16:34, Alexander Leidinger wrote: On 13 Sep 2003 14:52:29 +0200 sebastian ssmoller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: then i moved the disk from the hardware used during install into the production environment which includes VIA 82C8363 (Apollo KT133A) board, NVidia GeForce2 grafic card (using nvidia native driver for x11), AMD Duron 750 MHz, 512 mb ram. everything worked fine again. BUT: launching gdm needs a lot of time, same for gnome2. when i start moz-firebird i am unabled to use it for minutes (!) until it reacts on user events (typing inet adress into address bar), same for gaim. ps: the system i used to installed fbsd first is: AMD Duron 800 MHz, VIA VT8363/8365 [KT133/KM133] board, old SIS 8MB pci video card, 256 mb ram Is the system connected to a network, and if yes, does the network cards on both systems differ? If yes, have a look at the output of dmesg and try to find you network card. If you have it modify /etc/rc.conf (ifconfig_interface_name line). the system has two realtek network cards. both seem to work correctly - i've no connection problems - connection performance is ok. This sounds to me like a DNS problem, please check your default gateway (rc.conf: gateway line) too. dns seems to be ok. all requests are resolved correctly ... default gateway should not be the problem cause without ppp (dsl) this system is the default gw for the rest of the intranet and with ppp the default gw seems to be ok too. as mentioned: really bad performace occurs when lauching mozilla, gaim, gnome2, etc. ... when mozilla is running the perfomance seems to be ok ... possibly a bit too slow but i do not know how to proof this (?) i suppose a udma/disk/controller problem. i found out that the southbridge i use (VIA 82C686B) has some bugs. but in fbsd 5.0 release notes i found a bugfix for that so i am not sure about it ... thx regards, seb Bye, Alexander. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bad performance
On Sat, 2003-09-13 at 16:34, Alexander Leidinger wrote: On 13 Sep 2003 14:52:29 +0200 sebastian ssmoller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: then i moved the disk from the hardware used during install into the production environment which includes VIA 82C8363 (Apollo KT133A) board, NVidia GeForce2 grafic card (using nvidia native driver for x11), AMD Duron 750 MHz, 512 mb ram. everything worked fine again. BUT: launching gdm needs a lot of time, same for gnome2. when i start moz-firebird i am unabled to use it for minutes (!) until it reacts on user events (typing inet adress into address bar), same for gaim. ps: the system i used to installed fbsd first is: AMD Duron 800 MHz, VIA VT8363/8365 [KT133/KM133] board, old SIS 8MB pci video card, 256 mb ram Is the system connected to a network, and if yes, does the network cards on both systems differ? If yes, have a look at the output of dmesg and try to find you network card. If you have it modify /etc/rc.conf (ifconfig_interface_name line). the system has two realtek network cards. both seem to work correctly - i've no connection problems - connection performance is ok. This sounds to me like a DNS problem, please check your default gateway (rc.conf: gateway line) too. dns seems to be ok. all requests are resolved correctly ... default gateway should not be the problem cause without ppp (dsl) this system is the default gw for the rest of the intranet and with ppp the default gw seems to be ok too. as mentioned: really bad performace occurs when lauching mozilla, gaim, gnome2, etc. ... when mozilla is running the perfomance seems to be ok ... possibly a bit too slow but i do not know how to proof this (?) i suppose a udma/disk/controller problem. i found out that the southbridge i use (VIA 82C686B) has some bugs. but in fbsd 5.0 release notes i found a bugfix for that so i am not sure about it ... thx regards, seb Bye, Alexander. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
