Re: No working IDE in FreeBSD!

2012-02-26 Thread Dan Daley

Not all IDEs are so out of data.  Netbeans is quite current (7.1).  Eclipse is 
pretty close to the commonly available version as well.

Have you tried building codelite from their sources?  I may give it a try, just 
out of curiosity...






From: O. Hartmann ohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.de
To: Eduardo Morras nec...@retena.com
Cc: Current FreeBSD freebsd-current@freebsd.org; Ports FreeBSD 
freebsd-po...@freebsd.org
Sent: Sun, February 26, 2012 4:48:36 AM
Subject: Re: No working IDE in FreeBSD!

On 02/23/12 14:38, Eduardo Morras wrote:
 At 12:22 23/02/2012, O. Hartmann wrote:
 Several time ago I tried to do some development within an IDE, not even
 for lectural and educational purposes. Since most of our software is
 written in C/C++ and OpenCL, I highly prefered ANJUTA, since this IDE
 was highly customizable, flexible and even FreeBSD's ancient outdated
 version in the ports suited our needs.

 Anjuta does not compile anymore for a long time. I do not know why, I
 filed a PR (ports/161494). So I was looking for an alternative.

 I looked for some alternatives. The IDE should be configurable to use
 CLANG. ECLIPSE is to large and it does not fit my purpose. I tried
 devel/CodeBlocks, but CodeBlocks is narrowminded in terms of
 configuration of an alternative compiler and I find it really hard and
 not intuitiv to reconfigure the usage of CLANG.

 devel/anjuta is broken, so no chance. I also tried KDevelop, since many
 of our Linux based scientists feel good having this very popular IDE,
 but it is marked broken on FreeBSD.

 Before I waste more time on searching for a suitable IDE apart ANJUTA,
 I'd like to ask people here what alternative they would suggest if the
 focus is devel/anjuta. Eclipse is no way, KDevelop is broken, CodeBlocks
 is incapable of being easily adapted to CLANG.

 Befor people tend to start a flame war: yes, I'm fine with vi and I'm
 also fine with vim/gvim, but our students need to have the opportunity
 to work with an IDE and our projects are partially that large, so an IDE
 is needed.

 Thanks a lot for your patience and recommendations in advance.
 
 Codelite, i use it and works fine (Freebsd 8.2) with Clang. Version on
 ports is 3.0 not 3.5. On the webpage you have information about how to
 configure for use with clang/llvm.

Codelite looks nice. But why is codelite setup in editors/codelite and
not in devel/codelite as other IDEs?

By the way, do all IDEs supported by FreeBSD suffer from being outdated
and aged eons? CodeLite 3.5 is at this very moment the most recent
version and claims to provide a much better LLVM/CLANG support.

Hope I can convince the maintainer by sending a PR ;-)

 
 Oliver
 
 
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Re: No working IDE in FreeBSD!

2012-02-23 Thread Dan Daley

I use both Netbeans (7.1 beta and 7.0.1) and Eclipse for Java development on 
FreeBSD 8.2.  I haven't used either for doing development in other languages, 
but both work great for Java.  I highly prefer Netbeans over Eclipse, but have 
to use Eclipse for some things.
 
If you want to try Netbeans, I recommend using Open JDK 6.  There is an issue 
with Netbeans and Open JDK 7 at the moment.  I have an open bug report with 
Netbeans regarding this ( http://netbeans.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=206882 
).  In the bug report, I mention a work around to get Netbeans working with 
Open 
JDK 7... though I wouldn't necessarily recommend it.

Dan.





From: Martin Schütte li...@mschuette.name
Cc: Current FreeBSD freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Sent: Thu, February 23, 2012 7:45:42 AM
Subject: Re: No working IDE in FreeBSD!

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 CLANG. ECLIPSE is to large and it does not fit my purpose. I tried

You could try NetBeans, but its size is comparable to Eclipse.

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Re: No working IDE in FreeBSD!

2012-02-23 Thread Dan Daley

The I in IDE stands for Integrated.  An IDE is an editor with more general 
niftiness by definition.  Unix can be a development environment, but is not an 
IDE.

Dan.





From: Jan Mikkelsen j...@transactionware.com
To: O. Hartmann ohart...@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de
Cc: Current FreeBSD freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Sent: Thu, February 23, 2012 7:47:37 AM
Subject: Re: No working IDE in FreeBSD!

Unix is the original IDE. FreeBSD is a good modern implementation.

If you don't think that's enough, you need to say what you're really looking 
for, rather than just an IDE. It sounds like you're after an editor with more 
general niftiness. Visual Slickedit?

On 23/02/2012, at 10:22 PM, O. Hartmann wrote:

 Several time ago I tried to do some development within an IDE, not even
 for lectural and educational purposes. Since most of our software is
 written in C/C++ and OpenCL, I highly prefered ANJUTA, since this IDE
 was highly customizable, flexible and even FreeBSD's ancient outdated
 version in the ports suited our needs.
 
 Anjuta does not compile anymore for a long time. I do not know why, I
 filed a PR (ports/161494). So I was looking for an alternative.
 
 I looked for some alternatives. The IDE should be configurable to use
 CLANG. ECLIPSE is to large and it does not fit my purpose. I tried
 devel/CodeBlocks, but CodeBlocks is narrowminded in terms of
 configuration of an alternative compiler and I find it really hard and
 not intuitiv to reconfigure the usage of CLANG.
 
 devel/anjuta is broken, so no chance. I also tried KDevelop, since many
 of our Linux based scientists feel good having this very popular IDE,
 but it is marked broken on FreeBSD.
 
 Before I waste more time on searching for a suitable IDE apart ANJUTA,
 I'd like to ask people here what alternative they would suggest if the
 focus is devel/anjuta. Eclipse is no way, KDevelop is broken, CodeBlocks
 is incapable of being easily adapted to CLANG.
 
 Befor people tend to start a flame war: yes, I'm fine with vi and I'm
 also fine with vim/gvim, but our students need to have the opportunity
 to work with an IDE and our projects are partially that large, so an IDE
 is needed.
 
 Thanks a lot for your patience and recommendations in advance.
 
 Oliver
 

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Re: No working IDE in FreeBSD!

2012-02-23 Thread Dan Daley

I don't disagree.  I was disagreeing with the notion that Unix is an IDE.





From: Quentin Schwerkolt develloper.u...@hotmail.fr
To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Sent: Thu, February 23, 2012 9:44:50 AM
Subject: Re: No working IDE in FreeBSD!

Ok, but I think an IDE that can easily compile projects with clang is 
not a bad idea.

On 02/23/12 15:38, Dan Daley wrote:
 The I in IDE stands for Integrated.  An IDE is an editor with more general
 niftiness by definition.  Unix can be a development environment, but is not 
an
 IDE.

 Dan.




 
 From: Jan Mikkelsenj...@transactionware.com
 To: O. Hartmannohart...@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de
 Cc: Current FreeBSDfreebsd-current@freebsd.org
 Sent: Thu, February 23, 2012 7:47:37 AM
 Subject: Re: No working IDE in FreeBSD!

 Unix is the original IDE. FreeBSD is a good modern implementation.

 If you don't think that's enough, you need to say what you're really looking
 for, rather than just an IDE. It sounds like you're after an editor with more
 general niftiness. Visual Slickedit?

 On 23/02/2012, at 10:22 PM, O. Hartmann wrote:

 Several time ago I tried to do some development within an IDE, not even
 for lectural and educational purposes. Since most of our software is
 written in C/C++ and OpenCL, I highly prefered ANJUTA, since this IDE
 was highly customizable, flexible and even FreeBSD's ancient outdated
 version in the ports suited our needs.

 Anjuta does not compile anymore for a long time. I do not know why, I
 filed a PR (ports/161494). So I was looking for an alternative.

 I looked for some alternatives. The IDE should be configurable to use
 CLANG. ECLIPSE is to large and it does not fit my purpose. I tried
 devel/CodeBlocks, but CodeBlocks is narrowminded in terms of
 configuration of an alternative compiler and I find it really hard and
 not intuitiv to reconfigure the usage of CLANG.

 devel/anjuta is broken, so no chance. I also tried KDevelop, since many
 of our Linux based scientists feel good having this very popular IDE,
 but it is marked broken on FreeBSD.

 Before I waste more time on searching for a suitable IDE apart ANJUTA,
 I'd like to ask people here what alternative they would suggest if the
 focus is devel/anjuta. Eclipse is no way, KDevelop is broken, CodeBlocks
 is incapable of being easily adapted to CLANG.

 Befor people tend to start a flame war: yes, I'm fine with vi and I'm
 also fine with vim/gvim, but our students need to have the opportunity
 to work with an IDE and our projects are partially that large, so an IDE
 is needed.

 Thanks a lot for your patience and recommendations in advance.

 Oliver

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