Re: -current lockups

2001-08-01 Thread David Scheidt
On Wed, 1 Aug 2001, Sheldon Hearn wrote: : : :On Tue, 31 Jul 2001 12:06:49 -1000, Vincent Poy wrote: : : Yeah, that's the weird part... I thought adding a DDB_UNATTENDED : as a option would atleast make it reboot or something... : :For the record, DDB_UNATTENDED is mostly pointless. It

SMP panic at boot

2001-07-25 Thread David Scheidt
My SMP box, running current from about 24 hours ago, panics on a cold boot, but only if I don't touch a key. If I use the keyboard to do anything, whether to skip the loader twiddler, or to skip the BIOS disk probing, or just to bang my head against it, it boots fine. It will reboot fine once

Re: softupdates on /

2001-07-05 Thread David Scheidt
On Thu, 5 Jul 2001, Dan Nelson wrote: :In the last episode (Jul 05), Benjamin P. Grubin said: : As of a month ago or so, there was some discussion that concluded it : was unsafe to enable softupdates on a root partition. Is it safe to : go back in the water there, now? : :The 2 drawbacks with

Re: background fsck

2001-05-17 Thread David Scheidt
On Thu, 17 May 2001, David Wolfskill wrote: :From: John Baldwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] : :Hmm, that's odd, I did have soft updates on on /usr and /var before the crash. :It seems to be off now. :( : :That also happened to me. I thought it odd at the time, but forgot to :mention it At least I

Re: background fsck

2001-05-17 Thread David Scheidt
cc list trimed. On Thu, 17 May 2001, David Wolfskill wrote: :(I see it does want the file system clean when soft updates is enabled, :but doesn't check for that for a disable request.) : Right. fsck(8) can make assumptions about the state of the filesystem if it knows that softupdates were in

Boot hang with pcm

2001-04-21 Thread David Scheidt
Current as of yesterday afternoon hangs trying to boot on my box with an OPTi931 soundcard installed. It prints the probe, and then hangs. With boot -v, the messages are pcm0: OPTi931 at port 0x5 34-0x537,0x380-0x38b,0x220-0x22f,0xe0c-0xe0f irq 5 drq 0,1 on isa0 mss_init: opti_offset=2

Re: ftp and /etc/services...

2000-08-16 Thread David Scheidt
On Wed, 16 Aug 2000, Donn Miller wrote: :This is on a recently-built -current box. When I try to move ftp from :port 21 to port 2121 in /etc/services, I get a "Connection :refused" message when I try to login to anonymous ftp sites. Should ftp :be this dependent on /etc/services? What if you

Re: When Good DIMMS go Bad (or how I fixed my sig11)

2000-08-07 Thread David Scheidt
On Fri, 4 Aug 2000, Mike Muir wrote: :Stephen Hocking wrote: : : About a week ago, I complained of mysterious Sig 11s during a make world. : After some experimentation, a PC100 DIMM was found to be better suited for a : 66MHz memory bus in another machine, who obligingly donated a DIMM in

Re: When Good DIMMS go Bad (or how I fixed my sig11)

2000-08-07 Thread David Scheidt
On Mon, 7 Aug 2000, Warner Losh wrote: :In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] David :Scheidt writes: :: convince people that their memory is bad. The only reliable way to test :: memory is with a hardware testor, or swapping known good memory in. : :Yes. while (1) do ; make world; done is a close

Re: Mouse frozen in X when returning from text console

2000-07-27 Thread David Scheidt
On Wed, 26 Jul 2000, Jos Backus wrote: :[This is with yesterdays' -current and today's kernel, and Xfree86 4.0.1 using :the ati driver module.] : :Something I noticed today: switch to text console from X using C-A-F1; upon :return, the mouse cursor is frozen. moused appears to still work

Re: randomdev entropy gathering is really weak

2000-07-21 Thread David Scheidt
On Fri, 21 Jul 2000, Mark Murray wrote: : :Sure; we neet to be appropriately paranoid about that, but let's not :get ridiculous. The seed file could certainly use some decent protection, :but unfortunately, PC architectures don't come with SIMcards or the like. : Is it possible to combine the

Re: **HEADS UP** if you used to cvsup the crypto repo from internat !

2000-07-14 Thread David Scheidt
On Fri, 14 Jul 2000, Sheldon Hearn wrote: : : :On Thu, 13 Jul 2000 19:19:48 +0200, Mark Murray wrote: : : 2711: : If you used to get your crypto files from internat, AND you : used cvsup to get cvs' ,v files, then the latest changes : to the source collections will impact you.

Re: etc/rc.d things...

2000-07-11 Thread David Scheidt
On Mon, 10 Jul 2000, Mike Meyer wrote: :Daniel C. Sobral writes: : Mike Meyer wrote: : The multiple levels are there to deal with changes in state. In BSD, for : instance, we have single user/multi-user. A number of other variations : can exist, both in heavy duty servers where you might want to

Re: HEADS UP: /etc/rc.shutdown calls local scripts now

2000-07-06 Thread David Scheidt
On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Linh Pham wrote: : : Can we have little green "[ OK ]"s as well? :) : : j/k : :I hope you are joking... LOL... We don't want Linux emulation to go in :that direction. HP/UX does something like this. I find it rather useful, but that may be because I have boxes that take

Re: ACPI project progress report

2000-06-19 Thread David Scheidt
nd I often don't notice, because I have to move my hand from the mouse back to hte keyboard. I'm probably not a typical user, of course. David scheidt To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: mktemp() patch

2000-06-11 Thread David Scheidt
quot;#" is rubout in some shells. David Scheidt To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: Worst case swapping.

2000-06-11 Thread David Scheidt
On Sun, 11 Jun 2000, Brian Hechinger wrote: :Kent Stewart drunkenly mumbled... : : Netscape reallys goes to pot in a hurry if you allow it to use more : than 1-2MB of memory cache. A friend was seeing a terrible response : and tracked it back to Netscape's memory cache. He had a lot of memory :

Re: Anyone else seeing jumpy mice?

2000-05-22 Thread David Scheidt
On Mon, 22 May 2000, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: Well, in my case it happens without any such things going on. More to the point, it *never* works entirely right, from the moment I boot the machine to the moment I turn it off. The mouse is always jumpy now, and it's the same mouse I've been

Re: Archive pruning

2000-05-16 Thread David Scheidt
On Fri, 28 Apr 2000, David Scheidt wrote: On Fri, 28 Apr 2000, Bush Doctor wrote: Out of da blue David Scheidt aka ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: Not incidently, SCO have waived the $100 license application fee, which means that you can get your own official Ancient UNIX(TM) Source

Re: db 1.85 -- 2.x or 3.x?

2000-05-02 Thread David Scheidt
for FreeBSD to do things that make it harder to produce commerical software. David Scheidt To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: Archive pruning

2000-04-28 Thread David Scheidt
not covered under a orginizaitonal souce code license. David Scheidt To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: Archive pruning

2000-04-28 Thread David Scheidt
On Fri, 28 Apr 2000, Bush Doctor wrote: Out of da blue David Scheidt aka ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: Not incidently, SCO have waived the $100 license application fee, which means that you can get your own official Ancient UNIX(TM) Source Code License for free. This roughly cuts in half

Re: cc1 sig 11'ing recently?

2000-04-26 Thread David Scheidt
On Wed, 26 Apr 2000, Matthew Jacob wrote: Umm- doubt it, but I'll check. This system has been fine for the last 18 months and runs everything else just peachy. Sudden SIGSEGVs are almost always the result of failed memory. The fact that the machine worked fine for 18 months doesn't mean

Re: Archive pruning

2000-04-25 Thread David Scheidt
. There's always cvsweb for occasional browsing. This isn't quite true. A repository is very handy if you have a number of different enviornments, two or three STABLEs with different date stamps, say. That's not ideal, but it can be much easier than regression testing a bunch of applications. David

Re: /usr/ports/ too big?

2000-02-10 Thread David Scheidt
On Thu, 10 Feb 2000, Donn Miller wrote: All these makefiles would go inside of audio. To do the building each port, we can have the "work" be done inside the user's home directory. This would eliminate the need to log in as root in order to do the actual building. The benefits of having

Re: PAIN

2000-01-30 Thread David Scheidt
On Sat, 29 Jan 2000, Warner Losh wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Greg Lehey writes: : I did a make world on my PDP-11 yesterday. It took less than a day. : But that's 2.11BSD. Turns out that 12MB + 30MB of swap isn't enough to build world. I ran out of swap and the machine rebooted

Re: pcm - stutters

2000-01-29 Thread David Scheidt
On Sat, 29 Jan 2000, Nick Hibma wrote: I too notice these problems of mpg123 skipping during disk activity or X graphics ops but I have always had these problems, both with -STABLE and -CURRENT. I notice this with xmms too. So this is nothing new. Isn't this simply a typical issue

Re: boot messages for pci devices...

2000-01-19 Thread David Scheidt
something like HP-UX's ioscan(1M)? This would be very handy, even it only gave info on the hardware the kernel knows about, as opposed to actually rescanning the busses. David Scheidt To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: new man pages

2000-01-04 Thread David Scheidt
On Tue, 4 Jan 2000, Soren Schmidt wrote: It seems Marc Schneiders wrote: Where do I look for new man pages? I would like to read those for the new ata driver and for ntpd. They were not created during a build world some 5 days ago. And I cannot find them in /usr/src/share/man/man4,

Re: sysinstall: is it really at the end of its lifecycle?

1999-12-15 Thread David Scheidt
/www.gps.caltech.edu/~blair/orca/. -- Stoat then? http://home.capu.net/~kwelch/pp/predators/mammals.html David scheidt To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: Init Re: MAKEDEV (Re: Speaking of moving files (Re: make world broken building fortunes ) ) )

1999-12-15 Thread David Scheidt
don't want to have one big button which is called "NETWORKING ON/OFF". runlevels let you do more than just run gettys, control networking, and run /sbin/rc?.d scripts. We do. David Scheidt To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: boot stops after Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s2a

1999-12-08 Thread David Scheidt
On Wed, 8 Dec 1999, Greg Lehey wrote: On Monday, 6 December 1999 at 15:07:21 -0500, Kelvin Farmer wrote: Problem: Computer _sometimes_ stops after the "Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s2a" line. Running Current, built world yesterday. (Problem appeared fairly recently (as in ~2

Re: 3.3-stable - 4.0-current problem...

1999-12-07 Thread David Scheidt
On Tue, 7 Dec 1999, Darryl Okahata wrote: Michael Chin-Yuan Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please try this tutorial when you move from -stable to -current www.external.org/freebsd/current.html I think you're missing the recent block device obsolescence change. I had to build and

panic: vm_page_free: freeing wired page

1999-12-02 Thread David Scheidt
I am having the following panic, with a -CURRENT system as fo CTM cvs-cur.5868. I *think* the panic was induced by running mpg123 with a not an mp3 file. I've had two (maybe three, something happened to the box over night.) of these panics, but hte first was with no dump device configured. I

Re: semi-HEADS-UP (dumpon now wants raw disk device)

1999-11-30 Thread David Scheidt
On Tue, 30 Nov 1999, Thomas Stromberg wrote: " I see no needs of this change. I have -current dumpon/savecore work with old entrly like /dev/wd0... savecore understand both character and old block devices now. While I see your commit in cvsweb to savecore, I still run into this

World breakage in libpam?

1999-11-26 Thread David Scheidt
Seeing this trying to build world, cvsup'd earlier today. cc -O -pipe -static -DSETPROCTITLE -DSKEY -DLOGIN_CAP -DVIRTUAL_HOSTING -Wall -I/usr/src/libexec/ftpd/../../contrib-crypto/telnet -DINTERNAL_LS -Dmain=ls_main -I/usr/src/libexec/ftpd/../../bin/ls -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -o

RE: Netscape and -current

1999-11-22 Thread David Scheidt
to spare try the following: Working on this now. I presume I can just build a kernel, since the machine I am trying to upgrade form -STABLE to CURRENT does this. David Scheidt To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: Netscape and -current

1999-11-22 Thread David Scheidt
On Tue, 23 Nov 1999, Peter Wemm wrote: I'm pretty sure it's this commit to i386/machdep.c: Good call! A tree checked out with -D 1999-11-21 14:47 won't run netscape. A kernel built with the same sources, except for 1.376 of i386/machdep.c will. David Scheidt === revision 1.377 date: 1999

Re: cpu name

1999-11-20 Thread David Scheidt
flag to -O? It makes it work properly, so yes it would. None of the kernel code is tested beyond -O. Much of it works, but if it doesn't you aren't going to get any support from anyone, except to tell you to turn the optimization down. David Scheidt To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL

Re: /usr/share/calendar/calendar.freebsd ?

1999-11-01 Thread David Scheidt
On Mon, 1 Nov 1999, Greg Lehey wrote: I've never let my horses commit anything. Well, I won't admit it, anyway. But I still think their birthdays belong in the list :-) Can't remember 1 January? To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in

Re: Can't make crashdump after panic

1999-10-15 Thread David Scheidt
IDE disks with the ATA or old WD driver, or are you using SCSI disks ? I have both IDE and SCSI disks, I am dumping to an ide disk controlled by the ATA driver. David Scheidt To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: Can't make crashdump after panic

1999-10-15 Thread David Scheidt
On Fri, 15 Oct 1999, Alfred Perlstein wrote: What is your memory size? what is your swap device size? 256MB. 512MB. David Scheidt To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: Can't make crashdump after panic

1999-10-15 Thread David Scheidt
On Fri, 15 Oct 1999, Khetan Gajjar wrote: Looks like we have our problem; it's the ATA driver. I don't recall seeing this error when using the wd driver. Yup. When I force a panic from DDB, I get panic: timeout table full and a message about "Dump already in progress, bailing". I

Re: Can't make crashdump after panic

1999-10-14 Thread David Scheidt
t hardware is a ZIP drive :), which I'm trying to upgrade from a -current from Sep 17. (install new kernel first, make world after, etc) Sounds like your modules are out of date? That bit me. David Scheidt To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-curre

Re: linux emulation broken..

1999-10-14 Thread David Scheidt
, then it reboots. Is your linux emulation module out of date? I got bit by this the other day. It will causee quite a nice panic. Fixed that (options COMPAT_LINUX). David Scheidt To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: Linux X Server

1999-10-12 Thread David Scheidt
at the moment, so I cannot tell you much more than that. I will take a look at the machine when I get home, and see what else I might have done. I don't run xdm, which might be an issue. David Scheidt To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" i

Re: The eventual fate of BLOCK devices.

1999-10-12 Thread David Scheidt
the block device and use the raw interface. Does anyone on this list know of any programs that need/want the block interface? If there are none, or It doesn't run on FreeBSD, but Sybase uses block devices for its dedicated disk devices. There may be other RDBMSes that do this. David Scheidt

Re: Testers please!

1999-09-19 Thread David Scheidt
better. What sort of tests would you like done before and after? David Scheidt To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: newpcm and Vibra16X

1999-09-14 Thread David Scheidt
of a particular card which uses this chip, however, then I'd be happy to pick one up. I have a friend with one of these. I will find out what it is, and let you know. David Scheidt To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: PNP problems

1999-09-07 Thread David Scheidt
On Tue, 7 Sep 1999, Randy Bush wrote: % xmix Error opening mixer device /dev/mixer: Device not configured and similar whinging. xmix worked before the change. Did you remake your snd0 devices? David To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe

another newpcm casualty

1999-09-05 Thread David Scheidt
Yesterday's -current fails to find my soundcard. It's an Opti chipset thing that worked fine (for a $12 soundcard...) with the old driver. What is decent soundcard that works with the new driver?pnpinfo and dmesg snippet for the thing: Checking for Plug-n-Play devices... Card assigned

Re: another newpcm casualty

1999-09-05 Thread David Scheidt
On Sun, 5 Sep 1999, Doug Rabson wrote: On Sun, 5 Sep 1999, David Scheidt wrote: Yesterday's -current fails to find my soundcard. It's an Opti chipset thing that worked fine (for a $12 soundcard...) with the old driver. What is decent soundcard that works with the new driver

Re: HEADS UP! ATA driver (atapi DMA)..

1999-08-31 Thread David Scheidt
as from the inside edge. You are correct that the begining of the CD is in the center. dd the whole disk and use iostat to see what your transfer rates are. They will go up as the disk reaches the end. David Scheidt To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-cu

Re: Softupdates reliability?

1999-08-23 Thread David Scheidt
at's wrong with the current driver! I have survived a number of power loss crashes, with no problems. I tend to suspect the SCSI driver did something bad. David Scheidt To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: Sitting inside, looking out...

1999-08-03 Thread David Scheidt
[moved to -chat] On Tue, 3 Aug 1999, Nik Clayton wrote: Hmm. "I submitted a PR to FreeBSD, and all I got was this lousy t-shirt." Wouldn't we rather have "I fixed a PR in FreeBSD..."? David Scheidt To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "un

Re: panic: softdep_flushfiles: looping

1999-07-29 Thread David Scheidt
On Fri, 30 Jul 1999, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: Peter Holm wrote: Kirk seems to be out of touch :-), so I created PR kern/12869. I seem to recall a message from him last week saying he was going on a six weeks vacation. Well, he *did* said he was going on vacation, it's the "last week"

Re: is dumpon/savecore broken?

1999-07-20 Thread David Scheidt
it somewhere else. David Scheidt To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: loads of SetAttrs in cvsup of cvs repo

1999-07-04 Thread David Scheidt
On Sun, 4 Jul 1999, Amancio Hasty wrote: Curious why are you cvsupping every couple of minutes ? I think you have a language problem here. I think he meant it normally takes a couple of minutes, not that he cvsups every couple of minutes. David To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL

Re: Suspend modeX

1999-06-29 Thread David Scheidt
On Tue, 29 Jun 1999, Alex Zepeda wrote: Well, pushing 4s on the power button will turn the computer off (in fact it's more of a "hard" power off IIRC). Depends on the BIOS. It is often settable. David, who finds most ATX stuff annoying because it hasn't got a 25 pin serial port. To

Re: ENABLE_SERIAL_BREAK_KEY...or something?

1999-06-10 Thread David Scheidt
. There was a problem that sometimes switching from one machine to another would cause a break. Someone wired it slightly different, and included a push button on the switch box to send a break. David Scheidt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current

Re: bsd.lib.mk @'s

1999-06-07 Thread David Scheidt
On Mon, 7 Jun 1999, Chuck Robey wrote: Why are many of the build lines in bsd.lib.mk hidden with leading @'s, so that they don't display in the build? This is useless, it hides things that go wrong, and hardly belongs here, it seems to me. How often do your calls to ld, mv and rm fail?

Re: Announcing a new cvsup server - cvsup6.freebsd.org

1999-05-30 Thread David Scheidt
server for an extended period of time. In that case, you'd randomly get a _big_ step backwards in time. John Can't the supfile be made to ignore updates into the past? David Scheidt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body

Re: moused broken?

1999-05-27 Thread David Scheidt
On Thu, 27 May 1999, Kazutaka YOKOTA wrote: It is a PS/2 mouse or a serial mouse? What model is it? Sorry. It is a three button PS/2 mouse, an ATT 320. I think it is really a Logitech mouse in Deathstar clothing. From dmesg: May 24 13:59:31 rally3 /kernel: psm0: PS/2 Mouse irq 12 on

moused broken?

1999-05-26 Thread David Scheidt
or so old. I am now running -CURRENT as of cvs-cur-5352, which is from sunday 23 May. I haven't seen anything in the commit logs that would indicate anything has changed that would break this. If it happens again, I shall see if I can get a better look at what happens. David Scheidt

Re: disk quota overriding

1999-03-17 Thread David Scheidt
behavior for a production machine, it is damn silly. David Scheidt : To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message