Re: #includes and #defined

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Fri, 10 Aug 2018 07:53:19 -0600
Warner Losh  wrote:

> On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 11:51 PM, Erich Dollansky <
> freebsd.ed.li...@sumeritec.com> wrote:  
> 
> > On Fri, 10 Aug 2018 12:40:48 +0800
> > blubee blubeeme  wrote:
> >  
> > >
> > > What about the architecture name is it recommended to use x86_64
> > > or amd64?  
> >
> > my clang reports on an Intel CPU:
> >
> > #define __amd64 1
> > #define __amd64__ 1
> > #define __x86_64 1
> > #define __x86_64__ 1
> >
> > as defined.
> >
> > It reports
> >
> > #define __aarch64__ 1
> >
> > on an 64 bit ARM CPU.
> >  
> 
> 'man 7 arch' will tell you these things:

better late than never.

I still trust a compiler more than the documentation.

Erich
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Re: #includes and #defined

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Fri, 10 Aug 2018 12:40:48 +0800
blubee blubeeme  wrote:

> On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 8:28 AM Erich Dollansky <
> freebsd.ed.li...@sumeritec.com> wrote:  
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Fri, 10 Aug 2018 08:01:42 +0800
> > blubee blubeeme  wrote:
> >  
> > > What's the proper way to define and include FreeBSD amd64 in GNU
> > > Makefiles
> > >
> > > Do we define FreeBSD as x86_64 or amd64 also is it __FreeBSD__,
> > > FreeBSD__, or __FreeBSD
> > >
> > > I've seen all of the above looking through different projects.  
> >
> > clang defines '__FreeBSD__'
> >
> > Erich
> >  
> 
> What about the architecture name is it recommended to use x86_64 or
> amd64?

my clang reports on an Intel CPU:

#define __amd64 1
#define __amd64__ 1
#define __x86_64 1
#define __x86_64__ 1

as defined.

It reports

#define __aarch64__ 1

on an 64 bit ARM CPU.

Erich
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Re: #includes and #defined

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Fri, 10 Aug 2018 08:01:42 +0800
blubee blubeeme  wrote:

> What's the proper way to define and include FreeBSD amd64 in GNU
> Makefiles
> 
> Do we define FreeBSD as x86_64 or amd64 also is it __FreeBSD__,
> FreeBSD__, or __FreeBSD
> 
> I've seen all of the above looking through different projects.

clang defines '__FreeBSD__'

Erich
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Re: programs like gdb core dump

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

here we are:

http://sumeritec/FreeBSD/fortune.core
http://sumeritec/FreeBSD/gdb.core

The fortune core is from the same source as the now running system. The
gdb core should be but I am not 100% sure.

Revision: Revision: 337343

Erich


On Wed, 8 Aug 2018 08:57:06 -0700
John Baldwin  wrote:

> On 8/7/18 7:00 PM, Erich Dollansky wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > On Tue, 7 Aug 2018 11:59:11 -0700
> > John Baldwin  wrote:
> >   
> >> On 8/6/18 8:11 PM, Erich Dollansky wrote:  
> >>> On Mon, 6 Aug 2018 15:57:53 -0700
> >>> John Baldwin  wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>> On 8/4/18 4:38 PM, Erich Dollansky wrote:
> >   
> >>>>> Bad system call (core dumped)  
> >>>>
> >>>> Did you upgrade from stable/11 with a world that is still
> >>>> stable/11? If so, did you make sure your kernel config includes
> >>>> COMPAT_FREEBSD11? (GENERIC should include this)
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> I never have had a machine running 11. This machine is on 12 since
> >>> 2 or 3 years. I will check if this configuration was properly set
> >>> on that machine.
> >>
> >> Ahh, a fairly old 12 world with a recent 12 kernel will still need
> >> COMPAT_FREEBSD11.
> >>  
> > 
> > even when kernel and world are on '1200076' as provided by uname
> > -U/-K, COMPAT_FREEBSD11 is required at the moment. The system is
> > currently on r337343.  
> 
> Hmm, plain 12.0 binaries that are up to date should not need
> COMPAT_FREEBSD11. Do you have any of the core dumps from before handy?
> 

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Re: programs like gdb core dump

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Tue, 7 Aug 2018 11:59:11 -0700
John Baldwin  wrote:

> On 8/6/18 8:11 PM, Erich Dollansky wrote:
> > On Mon, 6 Aug 2018 15:57:53 -0700
> > John Baldwin  wrote:
> >   
> >> On 8/4/18 4:38 PM, Erich Dollansky wrote:  

> >>> Bad system call (core dumped)
> >>
> >> Did you upgrade from stable/11 with a world that is still
> >> stable/11? If so, did you make sure your kernel config includes
> >> COMPAT_FREEBSD11? (GENERIC should include this)
> >>  
> > 
> > I never have had a machine running 11. This machine is on 12 since
> > 2 or 3 years. I will check if this configuration was properly set
> > on that machine.  
> 
> Ahh, a fairly old 12 world with a recent 12 kernel will still need
> COMPAT_FREEBSD11.
> 

even when kernel and world are on '1200076' as provided by uname -U/-K,
COMPAT_FREEBSD11 is required at the moment. The system is currently on
r337343.

Thanks!

Erich
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Re: programs like gdb core dump

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Tue, 7 Aug 2018 00:09:15 -0400
Allan Jude  wrote:

> On 2018-08-06 23:11, Erich Dollansky wrote:

> >>> The message is always:
> >>>
> >>> Bad system call (core dumped)
> 
> compare the output of: `uname -K` and `uname -U`
> 

both outputs are

1200076

I got just access to that machine again. I will check it configuration.

Erich
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Re: programs like gdb core dump

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Mon, 6 Aug 2018 15:57:53 -0700
John Baldwin  wrote:

> On 8/4/18 4:38 PM, Erich Dollansky wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I compiled me yesterday this system:
> > 
> > 12.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 12.0-CURRENT #1 r337285:
> > 
> > When restarting fortune core dumps. When trying to load the core
> > dump, gdb core dumps.
> > 
> > The message is always:
> > 
> > Bad system call (core dumped)
> > 
> > Trying to install ports results in the same effect.
> > 
> > Erich  
> 
> Did you upgrade from stable/11 with a world that is still stable/11?
> If so, did you make sure your kernel config includes COMPAT_FREEBSD11?
> (GENERIC should include this)
> 

I never have had a machine running 11. This machine is on 12 since 2 or
3 years. I will check if this configuration was properly set on that
machine.

Thanks!

Erich
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Re: svn commit: r337340 - in head: [This broke all ci.freebsd.org 's FreeBSD-head-*-build 's, clang based and gcc 4.2.1 based]

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

this works now but now I am back to this:

Updating ./version.texi
--- ./m4.info ---
restore=: && backupdir=".am$$" &&  am__cwd=`pwd` &&
CDPATH="${ZSH_VERSION+.}:" && cd . &&  rm -rf $backupdir && mkdir
$backupdir &&  if (/usr/bin/makeinfo --no-split --version) >/dev/null
2>&1; then  for f
2>in ./m4.info ./m4.info-[0-9] ./m4.info-[0-9][0-9] ./m4.i[0-9] 
./m4.i[0-9][0-9];
2>do  if test -f $f; then mv $f $backupdir; restore=mv; else :; fi;
2>done;  else :; fi &&  cd "$am__cwd";  if /usr/bin/makeinfo
2>--no-split   -I .  -o ./m4.info ./m4.texi;  then  rc=0;
2>CDPATH="${ZSH_VERSION+.}:" && cd .;  else  rc=$?;
2>CDPATH="${ZSH_VERSION+.}:" && cd . &&  $restore $backupdir/* `echo
2>"././m4.info" | sed 's|[^/]*$||'`;  fi;  rm -rf $backupdir; exit $rc
2>Bad system call (core dumped) *** [./m4.info] Error code 140

make[4]: stopped in /usr/ports/devel/m4/work/m4-1.4.18/doc


Erich




On Sat, 04 Aug 2018 22:23:56 -0600
Brad Davis  wrote:

> On Sat, Aug 4, 2018, at 9:48 PM, Brad Davis wrote:
> > On Sat, Aug 4, 2018, at 7:43 PM, Mark Millard wrote:  
> > > > Author: brd
> > > > Date: Sat Aug  4 22:41:17 2018
> > > > New Revision: 337340
> > > > URL: 
> > > > https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/337340
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Log:
> > > >   Move autofs related configs to usr.sbin/autofs/
> > > >   
> > > >   This is prep for pkgbase to have config files tagged as such.
> > > >   
> > > >   Approved by:  will (mentor)
> > > >   Differential Revision:
> > > > https://reviews.freebsd.org/D16492  
> > > . . .
> > > 
> > > This broke all the ci.freebsd.org builds of freebsd-head-*-build .
> > > 
> > > Using FreeBSD-head-powerpc64-build as an example:
> > > #6826 (for -r337399 ) worked but #6827 (for -r337400 )
> > > fails with:
> > > 
> > > (cd /usr/src/etc; make -DDB_FROM_SRC __MAKE_CONF=/dev/null
> > > SRCCONF=/
> > > workspace/freebsd-ci/jobs/FreeBSD-head-powerpc64-build/src.conf
> > > etc- examples) cd /usr/src/etc; install -N /usr/src/etc  -o root
> > > -g wheel -m 444 crontab  devd.conf  devfs.conf  ddb.conf
> > > dhclient.conf  disktab  fbtab gettytab  group  hosts
> > > hosts.allow  hosts.equiv  libalias.conf libmap.conf
> > > login.access  login.conf  mac.conf  motd  netconfig networks
> > > newsyslog.conf  nsswitch.conf  phones  profile  protocols
> > > rc.bsdextended  rc.firewall  remote  rpc  services  sysctl.conf
> > > syslog.conf  termcap.small etc.powerpc/ttys amd.map auto_master
> > > ftpusers inetd.conf /usr/src/usr.bin/locate/locate/locate.rc
> > > hosts.lpd printcap / usr/src/usr.bin/mail/misc/mail.rc ntp.conf
> > > pf.os rc.sendmail csh.cshrc csh.login csh.logout regdomain.xml
> > > nsmb.conf opieaccess  /usr/obj/usr/
> > > src/powerpc.powerpc64/release/dist/base/usr/share/examples/etc
> > > install: auto_master: No such file or directory *** Error code 71
> > > 
> > > Stop.
> > > make[8]: stopped in /usr/src/etc
> > > *** Error code 1
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Stop.
> > > make[7]: stopped in /usr/src/share/examples
> > > *** Error code 1
> > > 
> > > Stop.
> > > make[6]: stopped in /usr/src/share/examples
> > > *** Error code 1
> > > 
> > > Stop.
> > > make[5]: stopped in /usr/src/share
> > > *** Error code 1
> > > 
> > > Stop.
> > > make[4]: stopped in /usr/src
> > > *** Error code 1
> > > 
> > > Stop.
> > > make[3]: stopped in /usr/src
> > > *** Error code 1
> > > 
> > > Stop.
> > > make[2]: stopped in /usr/src
> > > *** Error code 1
> > > 
> > > Stop.
> > > make[1]: stopped in /usr/src
> > > *** Error code 1
> > > 
> > > Stop.
> > > make: stopped in /usr/src/release  
> > 
> > Testing the fix..  
> 
> Fix committed in r337342.  Sorry for the noise.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Brad Davis
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Re: Ethernet troubles with X230

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Sun, 5 Aug 2018 12:18:24 +0200
Dhananjay Balan  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I have a problems with ethernet on my laptop (X230). pciconf(8)
> identifies the device as Intel 82579LM Gigabit Network Connection
> (Lewisville). 
> 
> 1. Resuming after a long suspend (~5hr), sometimes the
> machine can't get a DHCP IP. 
> 
> 2. After suspend, the ethernet device starts reporting no carrier,
> eventhough the cables are plugged in and if I plug it to a different
> box, they would work
> 
> I can reproduce both on 12.0-CURRENT #17 r336576. But not sure when
> they started.
> 
> I have seen this behaviour with 2 routeres running three firmwares at
> the other end.
> 1. Easybox (linux 2.x?)
> 2. Edgerouter lite running stock fw (linux 2.x) and 12-CURRENT (~3
> months old)
> 
> For Problem (1) DHCP lease: 
> ifconfig shows:
> em0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu
> 1500
> options=81249b
> ether xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx inet 0.0.0.0 netmask 0xff00 broadcast
> 255.255.255.255 media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT )
>   status: active
>   nd6 options=29
> 
> It still can't get an ip if I invoke service netif restart
> 
> em0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu
> 1500
> options=81249b
> ether xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx inet 0.0.0.0 netmask 0xff00 broadcast
> 255.255.255.255 media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT )
>   status: active
>   nd6 options=29
> 
> If I try running dhclient manually,
> 
> [dhananjay:~] 1 % sudo dhclient em0
> dhclient already running, pid: 14305.
> exiting.
> [dhananjay:~] 1 % sudo kill 14305
> [dhananjay:~] % sudo dhclient em0
> DHCPDISCOVER on em0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 6
> DHCPDISCOVER on em0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 6
> DHCPDISCOVER on em0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 10
> DHCPDISCOVER on em0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 13
> DHCPDISCOVER on em0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 17
> DHCPDISCOVER on em0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 9
> No DHCPOFFERS received.
> No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.
> 
> For (2) For status no carrier
> em0: flags=8c03 metric 0 mtu
> 1500
> options=81249b
> ether xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx media: Ethernet autoselect
>   status: no carrier
>   nd6 options=29
> 
> and dmesg keeps repeating 
> em0: TX(0) desc avail = 1024, pidx = 0
> em0: TX(0) desc avail = 1024, pidx = 0
> em0: TX(0) desc avail = 1024, pidx = 0
> em0: TX(0) desc avail = 1024, pidx = 0
> 
> 
> The only solution I have found so far is to just reboot the laptop and
> then everything starts working.  FWIW the router led never blinks (no
> data transfers during DHCPDISCOVER). I am not sure how to debug this.
> 
when I ran into this problem, I delete the IP address 0.0.0.0, kill
dhclient and start a new dhclient. As we used fixed IP addresses for
em0, the problem comes up only on wlan.

Erich
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programs like gdb core dump

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

I compiled me yesterday this system:

12.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 12.0-CURRENT #1 r337285:

When restarting fortune core dumps. When trying to load the core dump,
gdb core dumps.

The message is always:

Bad system call (core dumped)

Trying to install ports results in the same effect.

Erich
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Re: FreeBSD has a politics problem

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Sun, 18 Mar 2018 06:43:47 +0100
"Meixner, Johannes"  wrote:

> You must have never been to Southern Germany or Austria.

and Alaska.

Erich
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Re: FreeBSD has a politics problem

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Sun, 18 Mar 2018 01:08:41 +
Kate Dawson <k...@3msg.es> wrote:

> Actually you sound like you come from under a bridge.  You know...
> "Trolling" 

it just shows your low education level. You could have checked
maps.google.com.

But you did not.

Erich
> 
> xxx
> 
> On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 07:21:44AM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > just one word. I am from Kissing. My neighbours are from Fucking. I
> > bet, the 'CoC' people will discriminate me and my neighbours now.
> > 
> > Erich
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Re: FreeBSD has a politics problem

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

just one word. I am from Kissing. My neighbours are from Fucking. I
bet, the 'CoC' people will discriminate me and my neighbours now.

Erich
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Re: Intel CPU design flaw - FreeBSD affected?

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Thu, 4 Jan 2018 15:33:46 +0100
Stefan Esser  wrote:

> Am 04.01.18 um 12:56 schrieb Darren Reed:
> > On 4/01/2018 11:51 AM, Mark Heily wrote:  
> >> On Jan 2, 2018 19:05, "Warner Losh"  wrote:
> >>
> >> The register article says the specifics are under embargo still.
> >> That would make it hard for anybody working with Intel to comment
> >> publicly on the flaw and any mitigations that may be underway. It
> >> would be unwise to assume that all the details are out until the
> >> embargo lifts.
> >>
> >>
> >> Details of the flaws are now published at:
> >>
> >> https://meltdownattack.com  
> > 
> > The web page has both: meltdown and spectre.
> > Most people are only talking about meltdown which doesn't hit AMD.
> > spectre impacts *both* Intel and AMD.
> > 
> > SuSE are making available a microcode patch for AMD 17h processors
> > that disables branch prediction:
> > 
> > https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-security-announce/2018-01/msg4.html 
> >  
> 
> Disabling branch prediction will have a very noticeable effect on
> execution speed in general (while split page tables only affect
> programs that perform system calls at a high frequency).
> 
> I have not fully read the Meltdown and Spectre papers, yet, but I do
> assume, that the attack at the branch prediction tries to counter
> KASLR, which we do not support at all in FreeBSD.
> 
> So, I guess, we do not have to bother with disabling of branch
> prediction in FreeBSD for the time being?
> 
an attack on KASLR will not work, but any other attack will be get data
from the kernel out. So, FreeBSD is affected but not by the attacks
which will work on the other operating systems. Information still can
be extracted.

Erich
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Re: kernel names

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Thu, 14 Dec 2017 00:51:54 -0500
Allan Jude  wrote:

> On 12/14/2017 00:47, blubee blubeeme wrote:
> > When you boot into FreeBSD and you can select kernels, there's only
> > 2 options:
> > default and kernel.old
> > 
> > Is there a way to have better output and support multiple kernels
> > without having to login to the system and running uname -v or
> > something like that?
> > 
> > Would it be possible to add options for more kernels from that boot
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> The list is controlled by the /boot/loader.conf variable kernels=
> which defaults to "kernel kernel.old"
> 
> I have a patch almost ready to land that will search all
> subdirectories of /boot for a file named 'kernel' and add the names
> of those directories to the list, such that the list will basically
> be autogenerated.
> 
> It currently contains too much copy/pasted code, and I just need to
> clean it up a bit: https://reviews.freebsd.org/D11886
> 
> It was originally designed as part of my contributions towards
> packaged base, where pkg will keep the last N (default to 5 I think)
> kernel packages you have installed around, incase an upgrade goes bad.
> 
> This feature will work on any filesystem supported by the loader.
> 

this is a cool feature. Testing will become a lot easier then.

Erich
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Re: HEADS UP: caution required with updates using custom kernels

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:07:51 +
Brooks Davis  wrote:

> Kernel config minimalists and those running aarch64 and riscv systems
> will want to head this UPDATING message.
> 
> In practice, if you're fairly up to date, doing installworld before
> installkernel will also work (I've tested that case from ALPHA4), but
> is always somewhat risky.
> 
there is another scenario in which you will use a word starting with an
f followed by three letters. I did a normal update, compiled a custom
kernel but did not re-compile my own application. As the application is
required for the start of the machine, I was left with a system which
could not be used. So, downgrading it, recompile the kernel with the
compatibility option, compile the program and then it should work again
is the way.

Erich

> -- Brooks
> 
> - Forwarded message from Brooks Davis  -
> 
> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:02:05 + (UTC)
> From: Brooks Davis 
> To: src-committ...@freebsd.org, svn-src-...@freebsd.org,
>   svn-src-h...@freebsd.org
> Subject: svn commit: r302152 - head
> 
> Author: brooks
> Date: Thu Jun 23 21:02:05 2016
> New Revision: 302152
> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/302152
> 
> Log:
>   Add an UPDATING entry for the pipe() -> pipe2() transition.
>   
>   Approved by:re (gjb)
>   Sponsored by:   DARPA, AFRL
> 
> Modified:
>   head/UPDATING
> 
> Modified: head/UPDATING
> ==
> --- head/UPDATING Thu Jun 23 20:59:13 2016(r302151)
> +++ head/UPDATING Thu Jun 23 21:02:05 2016(r302152)
> @@ -31,6 +31,14 @@ NOTE TO PEOPLE WHO THINK THAT FreeBSD 11
>   disable the most expensive debugging functionality run
>   "ln -s 'abort:false,junk:false' /etc/malloc.conf".)
>  
> +20160622:
> + The the libc stub for the pipe(2) system call has been
> replaced with
> + a wrapper which calls the pipe2(2) system call and the
> pipe(2) is now
> + only implemented by the kernels which include "options
> + FREEBSD10_COMPAT" in their config file (this is the default).

Shouldn't it read 'COMPAT_FREEBSD10'?

Erich
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Compiling 11 on a Raspberry B+ 2 failes

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

I am trying to compile HEAD on a Raspberry and get always the following
error.

Of course, compiling revision 302017 on amd64 works.

Erich

Last Changed Rev: 301974

 /usr/src/lib/csu/arm/crt1.c:(.text+0xb4): relocation truncated to
fit: R_ARM_CALL against symbol `atexit' defined in .text section
in /usr/lib/libc.a(atexit.o) /usr/src/lib/csu/arm/crt1.c:(.text+0xbc):
relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_CALL against symbol `_init_tls'
defined in .text section
in /usr/lib/libc.a(tls.o) /usr/src/lib/csu/arm/crt1.c:(.text+0xcc):
relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_CALL against symbol `atexit' defined
in .text section
in /usr/lib/libc.a(atexit.o) /usr/src/lib/csu/arm/crt1.c:(.text+0x174):
relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_CALL against symbol `exit' defined
in .text section in /usr/lib/libc.a(exit.o) /usr/lib/crt1.o: In
function `finalizer': /usr/src/lib/csu/arm/crt1.c:(.text+0x1ec):
relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_JUMP24 against symbol `_fini'
defined in .fini section in /usr/lib/crti.o c++: error: linker command
failed with exit code 1 (use -v to see invocation) *** Error code 1

Stop.
bmake[4]: stopped in /usr/src.head/usr.bin/clang/clang
*** Error code 1

Stop.
bmake[3]: stopped in /usr/src.head/usr.bin/clang
*** Error code 1

Stop.
bmake[2]: stopped in /usr/src.head
*** Error code 1

Stop.
bmake[1]: stopped in /usr/src.head
*** Error code 1

Stop.
make: stopped in /usr/src.head
[raspberry2]~/System (root) > 
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how to avoid warning: use of old-style cast [-Wold-style-cast]

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

when compiling on FreeBSD 11, I get some warnings as mentioned in the
subject. What is the recommended way to avoid them?

Some examples are: FIONREAD or SIG_IGN.

The machine:

FreeBSD raspberry2.alogt.com 11.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT #0
r291495: Tue Dec  1 09:13:20 UTC 2015
r...@releng2.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/arm.armv6/usr/src/sys/RPI2 arm

Should we edit the include files?

Any other ideas?

Erich
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Re: how do I downgrade from 11-current to 10-stable

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Sun, 31 May 2015 10:01:48 +0200
Fabian Keil freebsd-lis...@fabiankeil.de wrote:

 Erich Dollansky erichsfreebsdl...@alogt.com wrote:
 
  On Sat, 30 May 2015 05:52:56 -0400
  Aryeh Friedman aryeh.fried...@gmail.com wrote:
  
   My desktop machine is 11-current and I want to down grade it to
   10-stable how do I do this without needing a reinstall?
   
  
  I did this several times from sources. Be aware of one problem which
  could be fatal. If you created a encrypted partition with GELI and
  you downgrade, the older version might not be able to handle the
  encryption of the newer version. This is not mentioned in the
  documentation.
 
 The [h]ighest GELI metadata version supported by the given
 FreeBSD version is documented in geli(8)'s history section.
 
it happened to me just shortly after 10 was released, that I tried to
read a GELI partition with 9.0 which is supposed to work according to
the manual but did not work for me. After installing 10 on the affected
machine, everything worked. After seeing some notes on the page of my
favorit search engine that this is known, I did not bother to do
anything else.

Should I check when I have time if this is still the case with 10.1?

Erich
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Re: how do I downgrade from 11-current to 10-stable

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Sat, 30 May 2015 05:52:56 -0400
Aryeh Friedman aryeh.fried...@gmail.com wrote:

 My desktop machine is 11-current and I want to down grade it to
 10-stable how do I do this without needing a reinstall?
 

I did this several times from sources. Be aware of one problem which
could be fatal. If you created a encrypted partition with GELI and you
downgrade, the older version might not be able to handle the encryption
of the newer version. This is not mentioned in the documentation.

There might be also a catch with the mix of kernel/world. To avoid
problems there, I ran both the installation of kernel and the world in
one go.

Erich
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Re: HOWTO articles for migrating from Linux to FreeBSD, especially for pkg?

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 12:01:30 -0700
Craig Rodrigues rodr...@freebsd.org wrote:

 On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 6:34 PM, Russell L. Carter
 rcar...@pinyon.org wrote:
 
 One complaint I have about the FreeBSD project, is that the core
 project contributors and developers rely too much on
 e-mail for communication.  This certainly works, and I use it too, but
 new and casual users getting into FreeBSD
 may get lost in the maze of FreeBSD mailing lists.  It would be nice
 if more of the core project contributors

mailing lists have two advantages I would not like to miss.

A) people can create their own archive and use it when they are offline
B) Google  Co. offer good search tools to search the online archives

 used the web forums ( http://forums.freebsd.org ), since stuff like

I also noticed while travelling that some locations block the forum.
Ok, it is rare.

 that shows up nicely in web searches, and it is easier

This is also true for the e-mails.

Erich
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Re: FreeBSD laptop compatibility list web page?

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Thu, 2 Oct 2014 01:48:39 -0700
Craig Rodrigues rodr...@freebsd.org wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I e-mailed Lukas Ertl l.e...@univie.ac about

I think that you to the wrong URL. The university of vienna is here:

http://www.univie.ac.at

Erich
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Re: need info about newcons in jails

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Sat, 03 May 2014 07:15:14 -0400
Fbsd8 fb...@a1poweruser.com wrote:

 Hello list.
 
 Looking for information about using newcons as the terminal driver in
 xorg for desktop in a jail.
 
 Can only find this https://wiki.freebsd.org/Newcons
 
 Has anybody gotten it to work in a jail?

I just used my FreeBSD 10 machine to test this. It works as expected.

Erich
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Re: Should we make WITHOUT_LIB32=yes the default for 11-RELEASE?

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Mon, 5 May 2014 22:07:06 -0400
Adam McDougall mcdou...@egr.msu.edu wrote:

 On most amd64 systems I run, I usually set WITHOUT_LIB32=yes
 in /etc/src.conf because I don't need them.  This weekend I did a
 stock install on an older AMD64 Core 2 Duo minipc and a buildworld of
 10-STABLE took almost two hours with LIB32 and CLANG since much of it
 gets compiled twice.
 
 Is it time to deprecate LIB32 in -current for 11-RELEASE?  I realize

this is a good idea. Just document it properly. So everybody can still
use it.

Erich
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Re: When to rebuild world?

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Wed, 9 Apr 2014 06:43:36 +0530 (IST)
Saju Ravindran Pillai saju.pil...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 Hello, I have just started tracking freebsd-current on a spare
 machine. I am going through my first buildworld to update from
 -stable to -current.
 
 Do I need to buildworld everytime I 'svn update' (atleast weekly). Or
 will src/UPDATING tell me when a buildworld is actually needed?
 
UPDATING tells you nothing about the parts which got updated. If you
want to save time, you would have to check which files are updated. As
it is rare that only kernel files are updated, I always compile both
the world and the kernel.

Erich
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Re: IXP700 AHCI fails to initialize

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

ok, I do not know of a working solution. But something like this
happened to me too. I simply could not get newer FreeBSD versions
working on old hardware. I have had to stick then with 7 until a
lightning put an end to the affected machine.

You still have one other chance. Try 9.

My strategy in upgrading is also very simple. When I get a new machine,
I install CURRENT and stick with the branch it will become later until
this branch is not supported anymore. It saved me a lot of hassles as I
normally have to do just one big version jump if the machine gets
real old I have have to switch version.

Erich

 On Sat, 1 Mar 2014
22:00:52 +0400 Yuriy Taraday yorik@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello.
 
 I currently have FreeBSD 8.3 on my home server and it works fine but
 it's time to upgrade at last (new ath and new ipfw especially allure
 me). I've decided to go straight to 10.0 and reinstall system from
 scratch to purge all legacy unrelated configs and other stuff.
 
 The problem I faced is as follows. I have a (rather old) motherboard
 with integrated SATA controller that presents in the OS as IXP700. In
 8.3 it works fine. I have 2 disks attached to it: one with all my
 data and another one destined to be new system disk. I also have one
 IDE disk installed that is currently used as system disk.
 
 When I booted from USB stick with 10.0, I couldn't see any SATA disks
 in the system. I dug into dmesg and found this:
 http://pastebin.com/wv2A0MUE As it seems AHCI controller or disks are
 not responding to commands and timeouts eventually.
 
 A friend suggested to try CURRENT image. I went
 with FreeBSD-11.0-CURRENT-amd64-VT-20140222-r262336-mini-memstick.img
 and got almost the same error: http://pastebin.com/0iGaSWUD
 The error repeats and never stops (looks like CURRENT images have
 different config) but it is essentially the same.
 
 I've googled the problem but found only notes about how IXP700 is
 really bad and pointers that cabling might be the problem. But I have
 absolutely no problems with 8.3, so it looks like some regression
 during further development (shift to CAM, maybe?).
 
 Please help me to identify and fix the problem.
 

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Re: FreeBSD 10.0-RC5 Now Available

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

I upgraded this morning to

FreeBSD X220.alogt.com 10.0-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 10.0-PRERELEASE #7
r260489: Fri Jan 10 08:25:55 WITA 2014
er...@x220.alogt.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/X220  amd64

just to find out that the mouse is not working under X anymore.

The ports are from revision 336079.

I have an X220. Neither the internal stick nor the external USB
connected Logitech Trackman work.

Both work outside X.

X logs these mouse related messages:

[   315.926] (==) intel(0): Silken mouse enabled

[   316.960] (II) config/hal: Adding input device Trackball
[   316.960] (II) LoadModule: mouse
[   316.961] (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input/mouse_drv.so
[   316.977] (II) Module mouse: vendor=X.Org Foundation
[   316.977]compiled for 1.12.4, module version = 1.9.0
[   316.977]Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
[   316.977]ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 16.0
[   316.977] (II) Using input driver 'mouse' for 'Trackball'
[   316.977] (**) Trackball: always reports core events
[   316.977] (**) Option Device /dev/ums0
[   316.977] (==) Trackball: Protocol: Auto
[   316.977] (**) Trackball: always reports core events
[   316.977] (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/ums0
Device busy.
[   316.977] (EE) Trackball: cannot open input device
[   316.977] (EE) PreInit returned 2 for Trackball
[   316.977] (II) UnloadModule: mouse

[   316.991] (II) config/hal: Adding input device PS/2 Mouse
[   316.991] (II) Using input driver 'mouse' for 'PS/2 Mouse'
[   316.991] (**) PS/2 Mouse: always reports core events
[   316.991] (**) Option Device /dev/psm0
[   316.991] (==) PS/2 Mouse: Protocol: Auto
[   316.991] (**) PS/2 Mouse: always reports core events
[   316.991] (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/psm0
Device busy.
[   316.991] (EE) PS/2 Mouse: cannot open input device
[   316.991] (EE) PreInit returned 2 for PS/2 Mouse
[   316.991] (II) UnloadModule: mouse

This are the X message I get when running X on an older release
candidate:

[   111.171] (II) config/hal: Adding input device PS/2 Mouse
[   111.171] (II) LoadModule: mouse
[   111.171] (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/input/mouse_drv.so
[   111.181] (II) Module mouse: vendor=X.Org Foundation
[   111.181]compiled for 1.12.4, module version = 1.9.0
[   111.181]Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
[   111.181]ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 16.0
[   111.181] (II) Using input driver 'mouse' for 'PS/2 Mouse'
[   111.181] (**) PS/2 Mouse: always reports core events
[   111.181] (**) Option Device /dev/sysmouse
[   111.181] (==) PS/2 Mouse: Protocol: Auto
[   111.181] (**) PS/2 Mouse: always reports core events
[   111.181] (==) PS/2 Mouse: Emulate3Buttons, Emulate3Timeout: 50
[   111.181] (**) PS/2 Mouse: ZAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5
[   111.181] (**) PS/2 Mouse: Buttons: 5
[   111.181] (**) Option config_info
hal:/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/psm_0 [   111.181] (II) XINPUT:
Adding extended input device PS/2 Mouse (type: MOUSE, id 7)
[   111.181] (**) PS/2 Mouse: (accel) keeping acceleration scheme 1
[   111.181] (**) PS/2 Mouse: (accel) acceleration profile 0
[   111.181] (**) PS/2 Mouse: (accel) acceleration factor: 2.000
[   111.181] (**) PS/2 Mouse: (accel) acceleration threshold: 4
[   111.181] (II) PS/2 Mouse: SetupAuto: hw.iftype is 4, hw.model is 0
[   111.182] (II) PS/2 Mouse: SetupAuto: protocol is SysMouse


The same X worked perfectly with any FreeBSD 10 since BETA1.

When I change xorg.conf and disable moused, I am able to get the
internal mouse (stick) working but not the external one. The external
mouse is recognised by the system when disconnected and reconnected but
not by X. It also works outside X.

I will update the ports tree tonight or tomorrow morning to see what
will happen then.

Erich

On Thu, 9 Jan 2014 11:18:18 -0500
Glen Barber g...@freebsd.org wrote:

 
 Changes between -RC4 and -RC5 include:
 
   o Fix an IPv4 multicast regression.
 
   o Fixes OpenSSL for CVE-2013-4353, CVE-2013-6449, CVE-2013-6450.
 
   o Revert a change to the kinfo_file structure to preserve ABI.
 
   o Fix a race condition which could prevent the file descriptor table
 from being properly updated.
 
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Re: 10-RC2 current wireless link aggregation not working correctly

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 17:02:03 -0800
Xin Li delp...@delphij.net wrote:

 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA512
 
 On 12/17/13 09:34, Allan Jude wrote:
  If I am am understanding correctly, Dan and Nikolai say that just 
  running 'ifconfig' brings the lagg back to life. Why would that
  make a difference at all? Running ifconfig with no parameters
  shouldn't be changing anything.
 
 I don't really believe these claim.

it does not work with iwn and em.
 
 I had similar issue in the past and found an 'arp -a -d' would fix

It also does not work.

The machine is running FreeBSD 10.0 RC2.

Erich
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Re: Issues in compiling apache server on one machine and transfer to second

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 13:54:25 +0530
swapnil vaidya swapnilsvai...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi All,
 I have 2 linux machine.

you might be on the wrong mailing list. This here is for FreeBSD.

 I have compiled apache 2.4.6 on one of the linux machine with
 following commands:
 ./configure --prefix=/usr/apache--with-ssl=/usr/local/ssl --enable-ssl
 --enable-modules=all --enable-mods-shared=most
  make
 make install
 
 This has installed apache on this machine and it works fine.
 However when i copy this apache (where it got installed) folder on
 other linux machine.
 I am getting following error while starting httpd with following
 commad: command:
 httpd -k start
 
 error:
 
 /httpd: symbol lookup error: /usr/papache/lib/libapr-1.so.0: undefined
 symbol: dlopen
 
 Can you please help me to understand what is going wrong.

It looks really strange to me.

Erich
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Re: svn error during 'make buildkernel'?

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Sat, 3 Aug 2013 15:17:02 -0700
Steve Kargl s...@troutmask.apl.washington.edu wrote:

 On Sat, Aug 03, 2013 at 05:43:13PM -0400, Glen Barber wrote:
  On Sat, Aug 03, 2013 at 02:30:23PM -0700, Steve Kargl wrote:
   On Sat, Aug 03, 2013 at 05:08:58PM -0400, Glen Barber wrote:
On Sat, Aug 03, 2013 at 02:03:49PM -0700, Steve Kargl wrote:
 I updated my /usr/src with subversion from ports:
 
 % pkg info | grep subver
 subversion-1.7.9_1 Version control system
 
 'make buildworld' completed as expected.  'make buildkernel'
 seems to complete, but I'm seeing
 
 : hack.c
 cc  -shared -nostdlib hack.c -o hack.So
 rm -f hack.c
 MAKE=make sh /usr/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh MOBILE
 svn: E155036: The working copy at '/usr/src'
 is too old (format 29) to work with client version '1.8.0
 (r1490375)' (expects format 31). You need to upgrade the
 working copy first.
 

 Why is svn being run during 'make buildkernel'?  More
 importantly, why is the freshly built svn in /usr/obj being
 invoked when it has not previously been installed and
 so /usr/src may indeed be in a older, yet valid, format?
 

src/sys/conf/newvers.sh sets the svn revision, which is printed
by uname(1).

devel/subversion is at version 1.8.x, so you should upgrade your
installed port.  Or you can use /usr/bin/svnlite directly, and
run:

# /usr/bin/svnlite upgrade /usr/src

   
   Thanks.
   
   Looks like an entry in /usr/src/UPDATING is missing if
   /usr/bin/svn* is forcing an obsolscence of a functioning
   installed port.
   
  
  The port was at 1.8.x before I added the additional lookup of
  svnlite to the script.
 
 My installed port was at 1.7.9.  I can't find anywhere that 
 states that one must immediately upgrade to a new version
 when a port's maintainer updates it.  I've banged my head
 against the ports collection dependency idiocy too often
 to chase after every update.
 
  There really is no need for UPDATING entry, since 1.7.9 is
  deprecated, and the behavior you have seen is not a fatal
  error with the buildkernel process.
 
 Installing a freshly built kernel when an ERROR message appears
 within the last 10 lines of 'make buildkernel' seems like a 
 rather dumb thing do.
 
  BTW, you should upgrade devel/subversion anyway, since there are
  security vulnerabilities.
 
 1.7.9 works/worked fine for updating my /usr/src and my personal
 svn repository.  The change to use svnlite in newvers.sh should
 have an entry in UPDATING to alert users that have a too old 
 svn port that they need to upgrade.  I go as far to suggest that
 that the script should look for svn in the path before it looks
 for svnlite.
 
doesn't this show again that svn came a bit early? I wait only for the
day, when two versions are needed. One for the ports, one for FreeBSD
itself. Let us hope that this is all ironed out until 10 is released.

I see the need to integrate svn into the base system. But this should
not force to keep also the ports current. At least it should not
confuse users when they keep the ports a bit older.

I am aware of that we are talking of current here and I am aware of
solutions for this problem.

Erich
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Re: svn error during 'make buildkernel'?

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Sat, 3 Aug 2013 22:04:56 -0400
Glen Barber g...@freebsd.org wrote:

 On Sun, Aug 04, 2013 at 08:10:09AM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote:
  doesn't this show again that svn came a bit early?
 
 No, it shows that people do not keep their third-party software up to
 date.

you want to say, that it is true what Windows people say is true, that
Linus/Unix people do not work with their machines but are busy
compiling their kernel?

I want to work with my computer. I also want to be able to do updates
of the kernel alone when I read here of a fix in the kernel that bugs
me just as it was possible with cvs. I hope We all can soon do this
again.

Erich
 
 Glen
 

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Problem with X, Intel integrated graphics and drm ...

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

since I upgraded away from 

FreeBSD X220.ovitrap.com 10.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #2 r252491M:
Wed Jul  3 08:45:23 CIT 2013

to

FreeBSD X220.ovitrap.com 10.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #5 r253048M:
Tue Jul  9 11:21:48 CIT 2013
er...@x220.ovitrap.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/X220  amd64

I get this in Xorg.0.log which was not there before:

FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'iso8859-13' for
'/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/WindowsFonts/MYRIADC.TTF' [ 21736.957]
FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'ascii-0' for
'/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Windows-7-Fonts/ahronbd.ttf' [ 21737.124]
FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'ascii-0' for
'/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Windows-7-Fonts/ahronbd.ttf' [ 21758.395]
FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'ascii-0' for
'/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/WindowsFonts/amazonen.ttf' [ 21771.138]
FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'ascii-0' for
'/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Windows-7-Fonts/calibriz.ttf' [ 21783.650]
FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'ascii-0' for
'/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Windows-7-Fonts/frank.ttf' [ 21794.146]
FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'ascii-0' for
'/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/WindowsFonts/kunstshm.ttf' [ 21829.041]
FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'ascii-0' for
'/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/WindowsFonts/kunstshm.ttf' [ 21837.470]
FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'ascii-0' for
'/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/WindowsFonts/kunstshm.ttf' [ 21845.380]
FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'ascii-0' for
'/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/WindowsFonts/kunstshm.ttf' [ 21850.479]
FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'ascii-0' for
'/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Windows-7-Fonts/ahronbd.ttf' [ 21852.510]
FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'ascii-0' for
'/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/WindowsFonts/MYRIADCI.TTF' [ 21852.520]
FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'ascii-0' for
'/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Windows-7-Fonts/lucon.ttf' [ 21855.945]
FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'ascii-0' for
'/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/WindowsFonts/MYRIADCI.TTF' [ 21867.661]
FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'ascii-0' for
'/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/WindowsFonts/MYRIADCI.TTF' [ 21885.381]
FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'ascii-0' for
'/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/WindowsFonts/MYRIADCI.TTF' [ 21893.325]
FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'ascii-0' for
'/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/WindowsFonts/MYRIADCI.TTF' [ 21893.325]
FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'ascii-0' for
'/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Windows-7-Fonts/lucon.ttf' [ 21902.660]
FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'ascii-0' for
'/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Windows-7-Fonts/palabi.ttf' [ 21906.663]
FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'ascii-0' for
'/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Windows-7-Fonts/palabi.ttf' [ 21910.339]
FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'ascii-0' for
'/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Windows-7-Fonts/palabi.ttf' [ 21917.686]
FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'ascii-0' for
'/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/WindowsFonts/MYRIADCI.TTF' [ 21917.687]
FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'ascii-0' for
'/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Windows-7-Fonts/lucon.ttf' [ 21927.186]
FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'ascii-0' for
'/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/WindowsFonts/MYRIADCI.TTF' [ 21927.186]
FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'ascii-0' for
'/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Windows-7-Fonts/lucon.ttf' [ 21932.510]
FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'ascii-0' for
'/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Windows-7-Fonts/angsaz.ttf' [ 21955.685]
FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'ascii-0' for
'/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Windows-7-Fonts/angsaz.ttf' [ 21961.984]
FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'ascii-0' for
'/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Windows-7-Fonts/angsaz.ttf' [ 21965.813]
FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'ascii-0' for
'/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Windows-7-Fonts/angsai.ttf' [ 21970.656]
FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'ascii-0' for
'/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Windows-7-Fonts/angsa.ttf' [ 21994.783]
FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'ascii-0' for
'/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Windows-7-Fonts/angsa.ttf' [ 21999.138]
FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'ascii-0' for
'/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Windows-7-Fonts/angsa.ttf' [ 22002.488]
FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'ascii-0' for
'/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Windows-7-Fonts/angsa.ttf' [ 22005.670]
FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'ascii-0' for
'/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Windows-7-Fonts/angsa.ttf' [ 22007.834]
FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'ascii-0' for
'/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Windows-7-Fonts/angsa.ttf' [ 22009.677]
FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'ascii-0' for
'/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Windows-7-Fonts/angsa.ttf' [ 22011.825]
FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'ascii-0' for
'/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Windows-7-Fonts/angsa.ttf' [ 22014.092]
FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'ascii-0' for
'/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Windows-7-Fonts/angsa.ttf' [ 22016.646]
FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'ascii-0' for
'/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Windows-7-Fonts/angsa.ttf' [ 22019.186]
FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'ascii-0' for
'/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Windows-7-Fonts/angsa.ttf' [ 22021.553]
FreeType: couldn't find encoding 'ascii-0' for
'/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Windows-7-Fonts/angsai.ttf' [ 

Re: Crashes with current on X220

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Sat, 06 Jul 2013 21:20:03 -0700
matt sendtom...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 07/06/13 19:40, Super Bisquit wrote:
  Look in the mailing list for Fixing X220 Video the right way.
  
 
 Did I miss something? I'm not sure it's related at all...?

you are right.

But it did not crash anymore since this

FreeBSD X220.ovitrap.com 10.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #2 r252491M:
Wed Jul  3 08:45:23 CIT 2013
r...@x220.ovitrap.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/X220  amd64

There is a new problem, but it is minor and I will report only after
testing with todays release.

Erich
 
 
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Re: Crashes with current on X220

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Sat, 6 Jul 2013 21:50:20 -0700
Adrian Chadd adr...@freebsd.org wrote:

 Can you try installing some 10-amd64 snapshots between then and now,
 and see roughly when it was introduced?

I tried to upgrade my machine since March with the same result. But ..
 
 There's been a lot of ACPI changes over the last 6 months. It wouldn't
 surprise me to find one or more of those messed things up.
 
... I installed this

FreeBSD X220.ovitrap.com 10.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #2 r252491M:
Wed Jul  3 08:45:23 CIT 2013
r...@x220.ovitrap.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/X220  amd64

and the machine runs for nearly 2 days including X without these
problems. With other words, you fixed it without knowing.

Erich
 
 
 -adrian
 
 On 5 July 2013 17:14, Erich Dollansky er...@alogt.com wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I updated my rock solid FreeBSD 10 installation from what was
  current this January to
 
  FreeBSD X220.ovitrap.com 10.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #2
  r252491M: Wed Jul  3 08:45:23 CIT 2013
  r...@x220.ovitrap.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/X220  amd64
 
  I have since then frequent crashes. Nothing is seen on the screen.
  The mouse does not move, the caps lock key does not switch the
  light. I have restarted the machine last evening without doing
  anything else. No X, just plain FreeBSD before logging on. The
  machine might has done a fsck. The machine was frozen this morning.
 
  Does anybody else has this experience too?
 
  Erich
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Crashes with current on X220

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

I updated my rock solid FreeBSD 10 installation from what was current
this January to

FreeBSD X220.ovitrap.com 10.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #2 r252491M:
Wed Jul  3 08:45:23 CIT 2013
r...@x220.ovitrap.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/X220  amd64

I have since then frequent crashes. Nothing is seen on the screen. The
mouse does not move, the caps lock key does not switch the light. I have
restarted the machine last evening without doing anything else. No X,
just plain FreeBSD before logging on. The machine might has done a
fsck. The machine was frozen this morning.

Does anybody else has this experience too?

Erich
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Re: Fatal trap 3: breakpoint instruction fault

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Thu, 23 May 2013 10:25:24 +0700
Erich Dollansky erichsfreebsdl...@alogt.com wrote:

 I updated my system over night. It suddenly reboots and I find some 20
 entries like this in /var/log/message:

I have had to give up using this kernel after it crashed all the while.
I will now doing updates of my kernel and report back when this problem
disappeared.

I did not see these messages any more in /var/log/messages.

Erich
 
 May 23 10:05:28 X220 kernel: Fatal trap 3: breakpoint instruction
 fault while in kernel mode 
 May 23 10:05:28 X220 kernel: cpuid = 0; apic id = 00 
 May 23 10:05:28 X220 kernel: instruction pointer  =
 0x20:0x80809f7e 
 May 23 10:05:28 X220 kernel: stack pointer=
 0x28:0xff82336de7c0 
 May 23 10:05:28 X220 kernel: frame pointer=
 0x28:0xff82336de7e0 
 May 23 10:05:28 X220 kernel: code segment = base 0x0,
 limit 0xf, type 0x1b 
 May 23 10:05:28 X220 kernel: = DPL 0, pres 1, long 1, def32 0, gran 1 
 May 23 10:05:28 X220 kernel: processor eflags = IOPL = 0 
 May 23 10:05:28 X220 kernel: current process = 2043 (chrome) 
 May 23 10:05:28 X220 kernel: trap number = 3 
 May 23 10:05:28 X220 kernel:
 panic: breakpoint instruction fault 
 May 23 10:05:28 X220 kernel: cpuid = 0 
 May 23 10:05:28 X220 kernel: KDB: enter: panic 
 May 23 10:05:28 X220 kernel: 
 May 23 10:05:28 X220 kernel: 
 
 All messages have chrome as the current process but different values
 for IP and SP.
 
 uname -a says:
 
 FreeBSD X220.ovitrap.com 10.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #24
 r250918: Thu May 23 09:00:07 WIT 2013
 er...@x220.ovitrap.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/X220  amd64
 
 Is this a known problem?
 
 All I could find at the Internet is a bit old and not related to
 chrome at all.
 
 Erich
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Fatal trap 3: breakpoint instruction fault

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

I updated my system over night. It suddenly reboots and I find some 20
entries like this in /var/log/message:

May 23 10:05:28 X220 kernel: Fatal trap 3: breakpoint instruction fault
while in kernel mode 
May 23 10:05:28 X220 kernel: cpuid = 0; apic id = 00 
May 23 10:05:28 X220 kernel: instruction pointer=
0x20:0x80809f7e 
May 23 10:05:28 X220 kernel: stack pointer  =
0x28:0xff82336de7c0 
May 23 10:05:28 X220 kernel: frame pointer  =
0x28:0xff82336de7e0 
May 23 10:05:28 X220 kernel: code segment   = base 0x0,
limit 0xf, type 0x1b 
May 23 10:05:28 X220 kernel: = DPL 0, pres 1, long 1, def32 0, gran 1 
May 23 10:05:28 X220 kernel: processor eflags = IOPL = 0 
May 23 10:05:28 X220 kernel: current process = 2043 (chrome) 
May 23 10:05:28 X220 kernel: trap number = 3 
May 23 10:05:28 X220 kernel:
panic: breakpoint instruction fault 
May 23 10:05:28 X220 kernel: cpuid = 0 
May 23 10:05:28 X220 kernel: KDB: enter: panic 
May 23 10:05:28 X220 kernel: 
May 23 10:05:28 X220 kernel: 

All messages have chrome as the current process but different values
for IP and SP.

uname -a says:

FreeBSD X220.ovitrap.com 10.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #24 r250918:
Thu May 23 09:00:07 WIT 2013
er...@x220.ovitrap.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/X220  amd64

Is this a known problem?

All I could find at the Internet is a bit old and not related to chrome
at all.

Erich
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Re: Fatal trap 3: breakpoint instruction fault

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Thu, 23 May 2013 07:23:33 +0300
Konstantin Belousov kostik...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 10:25:24AM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote:
  Hi,
  
  I updated my system over night. It suddenly reboots and I find some
  20 entries like this in /var/log/message:
  
  May 23 10:05:28 X220 kernel: Fatal trap 3: breakpoint instruction
  fault while in kernel mode 
  May 23 10:05:28 X220 kernel: cpuid = 0; apic id = 00 
  May 23 10:05:28 X220 kernel: instruction pointer=
  0x20:0x80809f7e 
  May 23 10:05:28 X220 kernel: stack pointer  =
  0x28:0xff82336de7c0 
  May 23 10:05:28 X220 kernel: frame pointer  =
  0x28:0xff82336de7e0 
  May 23 10:05:28 X220 kernel: code segment   = base 0x0,
  limit 0xf, type 0x1b 
  May 23 10:05:28 X220 kernel: = DPL 0, pres 1, long 1, def32 0, gran
  1 May 23 10:05:28 X220 kernel: processor eflags = IOPL = 0 
  May 23 10:05:28 X220 kernel: current process = 2043 (chrome) 
  May 23 10:05:28 X220 kernel: trap number = 3 
  May 23 10:05:28 X220 kernel:
  panic: breakpoint instruction fault 
  May 23 10:05:28 X220 kernel: cpuid = 0 
  May 23 10:05:28 X220 kernel: KDB: enter: panic 
  May 23 10:05:28 X220 kernel: 
  May 23 10:05:28 X220 kernel: 
  
  All messages have chrome as the current process but different values
  for IP and SP.
  
  uname -a says:
  
  FreeBSD X220.ovitrap.com 10.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #24
  r250918: Thu May 23 09:00:07 WIT 2013
  er...@x220.ovitrap.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/X220  amd64
 Do you have ddb compiled in ?  If yes, did you used it before the
 breakpoint trap was reported ?

to be honest, I do not know if ddb is compiled in.

The main problem would be that this is currently only machine. It also
has no serial links. Just USB and Ethernet.
 
 Did you used gdb or strace in the usermode before the trap ?
 
No debugger of any kind was running.

Let me tell you what I normally do when I start this machine. It has an
Intel i7 CPU and as such it uses KMS.

- log-on as a normal user.
- start X
- start a few xterms
- start wireless network in one of them
- start chrome to log-on onto the LAN of the client
- start claws mail
- start arora

I think that I did not come further as I remember to get a message from
my daughter as the last activity of the machine in chrome.

The screen went black then and the machine started to reboot.

I think that there is not much helpful information I could give.

I work since then much longer without any problems.

Erich
  
  Is this a known problem?
  
  All I could find at the Internet is a bit old and not related to
  chrome at all.
  
  Erich
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Re: Fatal trap 3: breakpoint instruction fault

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Thu, 23 May 2013 07:23:33 +0300
Konstantin Belousov kostik...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 10:25:24AM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote:
  uname -a says:
  
  FreeBSD X220.ovitrap.com 10.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #24
  r250918: Thu May 23 09:00:07 WIT 2013
  er...@x220.ovitrap.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/X220  amd64
 Do you have ddb compiled in ?  If yes, did you used it before the

did you mean if ddb support is compiled in? Yes, the support is
compiled in.

Erich
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Re: Computers Won't Turn Off or Reboot

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 15:50:58 -0700
Kevin Oberman rkober...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 3:26 AM, Artyom Mirgorodskiy 
 artyom.mirgorod...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I have similar problem when start X server with intel driver.
 
  On Monday 22 April 2013 18:50:37 Shawn Webb wrote:
   Hey All,
  
   I'm on r249745 on amd64. For the past few weeks, my box hasn't
   been able
  to
   completely turn off or reboot. The box sits at the console at the
   All buffers synced message. I'm running root on ZFS in a
   two-disk mirror setup. No kernel panics or dumps or anything.
  
   Let me know if there's anything I can do or more information  you
   need.
  
   Thanks,
  
   Shawn
  
 
 
 I am seeing the same thing on my 9.1-STABLE box. It was running a
 kernel from Jan. 27, but after updating on April 16 (r249571M), I
 can't get it to shut down. I am running KMS, so it's hard to tell
 just where it is hanging and a GENERIC kernel patched for the new
 kernel fusefs implementation found in head. The system shuts down
 cleanly if X has not started and also if shutdown is done soon after
 it is started. I suspect that the issue only shows up if I write to
 an NTFS volume. The hang occurs whether or not the fuse systems have
 been unmounted.
 
 System is an amd64 kernel on a Core5i-2520M ThinkPad T520. 4G memory.
 Generic kernel EXCEPT that I am running the kernel fusefs
 implementation from head.
 
 Do any of the other reporters of this use fuse?

I do not use any Windows related stuff an see the same behaviour on 10.

Erich
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Re: Computers Won't Turn Off or Reboot

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 15:56:53 -0700
Adrian Chadd adr...@freebsd.org wrote:

 CAn you trace down a rough subversion commit id window between when it
 worked and didn't work?
 
I reported this for a kernel compiled 13.03.13. It looks to me that the
problem is there much longer.

I also have an AMD machine with an older 10 from last summer. When both
machines have been on the same version, the AMD machine never crashed
but the Intel machine crashed very often on shutdown. Crash means that
the screen went black and it did not respond to network and keyboard.

The Intel machine never crashes for me when I do not start X.

You know that after starting X the console does not come back on Intel
machines. So, it is hard to tell what is going on except that the
machine does not power off and does not respond.

I know that this information is not very helpful. I am travelling most
of the time and as long as I am travelling, I only have access to the
Intel machine. 

Erich
 
 On 22 April 2013 15:50, Shawn Webb latt...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hey All,
 
  I'm on r249745 on amd64. For the past few weeks, my box hasn't been
  able to completely turn off or reboot. The box sits at the console
  at the All buffers synced message. I'm running root on ZFS in a
  two-disk mirror setup. No kernel panics or dumps or anything.
 
  Let me know if there's anything I can do or more information  you
  need.
 
  Thanks,
 
  Shawn
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X220 note: crash at shutdown -p now

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

I noticed frequent crashes when i power off my X220. I got used to it
until I did some reboots without a single crash.

I shut down the machine with

shutdown -p now

uname says:

FreeBSD X220.ovitrap.com 10.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #23: Sat Feb
23 17:24:19 WIT 2013
er...@x220.ovitrap.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/X220  amd64

I noticed that very often, the file /boot/loader.conf is empty when the
machine is started again later.

Is there a way I could help to find the source of the problem?

Erich
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Re: Question on building from sources.

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 19:05:47 -0400
Super Bisquit superbisq...@gmail.com wrote:

 Okay. I already have 10.0 on the machine from a year ago. What I have

this sounds a bit old.

 come up against is CLANG_IS_CC =no when trying to build run(4).
 What is the current state of clang as cc compiler on ppc32? -- This
 needs to be fixed first.

I do not use FreeBSD on any thing else but AMD64.

 Thanks for the replies and sorry for any noise.

Isn't the noise the idea behind this mailing list?

Erich
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Re: Question on building from sources.

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 22:03:11 -0400
Glen Barber g...@freebsd.org wrote:

 On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 09:31:12PM -0400, Super Bisquit wrote:
  I have my QuickSilver and no internet connection. I have a few
  questions. 1. Do I download the latest for PowerPC(32bit) and then
  download the sources according to the Makefile.
 
 For ports, yes, you will to do 'make fetch' or 'make fetch-recursive'
 for third-party software you want to install.
 
yes.

  3. Has anyone else done this before? If yes, then what were your
  results?
  
 
 It is painful.  My suggestion is to identify everything you absolutely
 need, and do from a separate machine with internet access:
 
I do this all the while as I have only random Internet connection. But
I do this only for amd64. It works most of the time. Expect some
returns to the machine with an Internet connection.

 Note that if anything is missing, build will fail at compile time on
 the internet-less machine.

This should only be a problem for the ports. The sources can easily be
downloaded in one go.

Erich
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X220 loses keyboard when Logitech USB wireless adaptor is unplugged

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

I just got this from /var/log/messages:

Mar 25 19:12:01 X220 kernel: ugen0.3: Logitech at usbus0
(disconnected) 
Mar 25 19:12:01 X220 kernel: ukbd0: at uhub3, port 2, addr 3
(disconnected) 
Mar 25 19:12:01 X220 kernel: ums0: at uhub3, port 2, addr 3
(disconnected) 
Mar 25 19:12:01 X220 kernel: uhid0: at uhub3, port 2, addr 3
(disconnected) 
Mar 25 19:12:09 X220 kernel: ugen0.3: Logitech at usbus0 
Mar 25 19:12:09 X220 kernel: ukbd0: Logitech USB Receiver, class 0/0,
rev 2.00/12.01, addr 3 on usbus0 
Mar 25 19:12:09 X220 kernel: kbd2 at ukbd0 
Mar 25 19:12:09 X220 kernel: ums0: Logitech USB Receiver, class 0/0,
rev 2.00/12.01, addr 3 on usbus0 
Mar 25 19:12:09 X220 kernel: ums0: 16 buttons and [XYZT] coordinates
ID=2 
Mar 25 19:12:09 X220 kernel: uhid0: Logitech USB Receiver, class
0/0, rev 2.00/12.01, addr 3 on usbus0


As you can see, I took the adaptor connected to ugne0.3 out. In
addition, the keyboard ukbd0 was disconnected too. When I put the
adaptor back in, the keyboard comes back too. As you can imagine, it is
a bit hard to unplug the built-in keyboard on a notebook.

uname -a says:

FreeBSD X220.ovitrap.com 10.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #23: Sat Feb
23 17:24:19 WIT 2013
er...@x220.ovitrap.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/X220  amd64

Any thing I could do to help fix this?

Erich
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Re: X220 loses keyboard when Logitech USB wireless adaptor is unplugged

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 19:21:05 +0700
Erich Dollansky er...@alogt.com wrote:

 As you can see, I took the adaptor connected to ugne0.3 out. In
 addition, the keyboard ukbd0 was disconnected too. When I put the
 adaptor back in, the keyboard comes back too. As you can imagine, it
 is a bit hard to unplug the built-in keyboard on a notebook.
 
the situation changes when I do not use X and KMS. I can do with the
Logitech adaptor what I want but the keyboard stays connected. The
moment I start X, it is back to the behaviour from above.

Erich
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Re: X220 loses keyboard when Logitech USB wireless adaptor is unplugged

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 09:07:14 -0400 (EDT)
Daniel Eischen deisc...@freebsd.org wrote:

 On Mon, 25 Mar 2013, Erich Dollansky wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 19:21:05 +0700
  Erich Dollansky er...@alogt.com wrote:
 
  As you can see, I took the adaptor connected to ugne0.3 out. In
  addition, the keyboard ukbd0 was disconnected too. When I put the
  adaptor back in, the keyboard comes back too. As you can imagine,
  it is a bit hard to unplug the built-in keyboard on a notebook.
 
  the situation changes when I do not use X and KMS. I can do with the
  Logitech adaptor what I want but the keyboard stays connected. The
  moment I start X, it is back to the behaviour from above.
 
 Can you use, or are you using, moused?  Tell X to use sysmouse.
 
 Section InputDevice
  Identifier  Mouse0
  Driver  mouse
  Option  Protocol auto
  Option  Device /dev/sysmouse
  Option  ZAxisMapping 4 5 6 7
 EndSection
 
I did this and do not see a difference. The log file says:

Mar 25 21:17:09 X220 kernel: ugen1.2: Logitech at usbus1 (disconnected) 
Mar 25 21:17:09 X220 kernel: ukbd0: at uhub1, port 3, addr 1 (disconnected) 
Mar 25 21:17:09 X220 kernel: ums0: at uhub1, port 3, addr 1 (disconnected) 
Mar 25 21:17:09 X220 kernel: uhid0: at uhub1, port 3, addr 1 (disconnected) 
Mar 25 21:17:25 X220 kernel: ugen1.2: Logitech at usbus1 
Mar 25 21:17:25 X220 kernel: ukbd0: Logitech USB Receiver, class 0/0, rev 
2.0012.01, addr 1 on usbus1 
Mar 25 21:17:25 X220 kernel: kbd2 at ukbd0 
Mar 25 21:17:25 X220 kernel: ums0: Logitech USB Receiver, class 0/0, rev 
2.00/2.01, addr 1 on usbus1 
Mar 25 21:17:25 X220 kernel: ums0: 16 buttons and [XYZT] coordinates ID=2 
Mar 25 21:17:25 X220 kernel: uhid0: Logitech USB Receiver, class 0/0, rev
2.0012.01, addr 1 on usbus1

Still, the keyboard ukdb0 gets disconnected together with the mouse.

Erich
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Re: X220 loses keyboard when Logitech USB wireless adaptor is unplugged

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 15:26:54 +0100
Andreas Nilsson andrn...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Erich Dollansky 
 erichsfreebsdl...@alogt.com wrote:
 
 
 What does a 'usbconfig devlist' before and after unplugging show?
 
do you mean this?

Before

 usbconfig dump_info
ugen0.1: EHCI root HUB Intel at usbus0, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=HIGH
(480Mbps) pwr=SAVE (0mA)

ugen1.1: XHCI root HUB 0x1033 at usbus1, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=SUPER
(5.0Gbps) pwr=SAVE (0mA)

ugen2.1: EHCI root HUB Intel at usbus2, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=HIGH
(480Mbps) pwr=SAVE (0mA)

ugen0.2: product 0x0024 vendor 0x8087 at usbus0, cfg=0 md=HOST
spd=HIGH (480Mbps) pwr=SAVE (0mA)

ugen2.2: product 0x0024 vendor 0x8087 at usbus2, cfg=0 md=HOST
spd=HIGH (480Mbps) pwr=SAVE (0mA)

ugen0.3: Biometric Coprocessor UPEK at usbus0, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=FULL
(12Mbps) pwr=ON (100mA)

ugen0.4: Broadcom Bluetooth Device Broadcom Corp at usbus0, cfg=0
md=HOST spd=FULL (12Mbps) pwr=ON (0mA)

ugen0.5: Integrated Camera Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd. at usbus0,
cfg=0 md=HOST spd=HIGH (480Mbps) pwr=ON (200mA)

ugen1.2: USB Receiver Logitech at usbus1, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=FULL
(12Mbps) pwr=ON (98mA)


after:

ugen0.1: EHCI root HUB Intel at usbus0, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=HIGH
(480Mbps) pwr=SAVE (0mA)

ugen1.1: XHCI root HUB 0x1033 at usbus1, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=SUPER
(5.0Gbps) pwr=SAVE (0mA)

ugen2.1: EHCI root HUB Intel at usbus2, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=HIGH
(480Mbps) pwr=SAVE (0mA)

ugen0.2: product 0x0024 vendor 0x8087 at usbus0, cfg=0 md=HOST
spd=HIGH (480Mbps) pwr=SAVE (0mA)

ugen2.2: product 0x0024 vendor 0x8087 at usbus2, cfg=0 md=HOST
spd=HIGH (480Mbps) pwr=SAVE (0mA)

ugen0.3: Biometric Coprocessor UPEK at usbus0, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=FULL
(12Mbps) pwr=ON (100mA)

ugen0.4: Broadcom Bluetooth Device Broadcom Corp at usbus0, cfg=0
md=HOST spd=FULL (12Mbps) pwr=ON (0mA)

ugen0.5: Integrated Camera Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd. at usbus0,
cfg=0 md=HOST spd=HIGH (480Mbps) pwr=ON (200mA)

Erich
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Re: multi-homing in freebsd

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Sat, 9 Mar 2013 03:04:00 -0500
Yasir hussan kolya...@gmail.com wrote:

 i just want to run multiple IPs for single network card in freebsd

it should work with alias of ifconfig

Erich
 
 On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 2:55 AM, Yasir hussan kolya...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  Does anyone know usage of multi-homing in freebsd, if YES kindly
  guid me how i can test it on my own PC.
 
  Thanks
 
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Re: Fixing X220 Video The Right Way

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Wed, 27 Feb 2013 15:27:36 -0500
John Baldwin j...@freebsd.org wrote:

 On Wednesday, February 27, 2013 1:35:43 pm matt wrote:
  On 02/27/13 09:00, John Baldwin wrote:
   If that is true, it's because your BIOS is lying. Do you have a
   URL to your ASL lying around already? 
  Too big for pastebin :( +500k
  
  https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6YlMzJxarGbVnotLUdNWWNTVG8/edit?usp=sharing
 
 the X220 have a switchable GPU (e.g. it has built-in Intel graphics,

it has.

 but also has an Nvidia GPU or some such?).  If so, I imagine that

No, it does not.

 PCI0.VID is the Intel graphics and PEG is the non-Intel.  The output
 of 'pciconf -lcv' would be useful to determine that.  If both PCI
 devices exist you shoudl have both acpi_video0 and acpi_video1.
 However, it may be that the acpi_video driver doesn't cope well with
 having multiple devices.
 
Erich

PS

Here is the output:

hostb0@pci0:0:0:0:  class=0x06 card=0x21da17aa
chip=0x01048086 rev=0x09 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '2nd Generation Core Processor Family DRAM Controller'
class  = bridge
subclass   = HOST-PCI
cap 09[e0] = vendor (length 12) Intel cap 0 version 1
vgapci0@pci0:0:2:0: class=0x03 card=0x21da17aa
chip=0x01268086 rev=0x09 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated
Graphics Controller' class  = display
subclass   = VGA
cap 05[90] = MSI supports 1 message enabled with 1 message
cap 01[d0] = powerspec 2  supports D0 D3  current D0
cap 13[a4] = PCI Advanced Features: FLR TP
none0@pci0:0:22:0:  class=0x078000 card=0x21da17aa
chip=0x1c3a8086 rev=0x04 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family MEI Controller'
class  = simple comms
cap 01[50] = powerspec 3  supports D0 D3  current D0
cap 05[8c] = MSI supports 1 message, 64 bit 
uart2@pci0:0:22:3:  class=0x070002 card=0x21da17aa
chip=0x1c3d8086 rev=0x04 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family KT Controller'
class  = simple comms
subclass   = UART
cap 01[c8] = powerspec 3  supports D0 D3  current D0
cap 05[d0] = MSI supports 1 message, 64 bit 
em0@pci0:0:25:0:class=0x02 card=0x21ce17aa chip=0x15028086
rev=0x04 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '82579LM Gigabit Network Connection'
class  = network
subclass   = ethernet
cap 01[c8] = powerspec 2  supports D0 D3  current D0
cap 05[d0] = MSI supports 1 message, 64 bit enabled with 1 message
cap 13[e0] = PCI Advanced Features: FLR TP
ehci0@pci0:0:26:0:  class=0x0c0320 card=0x21da17aa
chip=0x1c2d8086 rev=0x04 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host
Controller' class  = serial bus
subclass   = USB
cap 01[50] = powerspec 2  supports D0 D3  current D0
cap 0a[58] = EHCI Debug Port at offset 0xa0 in map 0x14
cap 13[98] = PCI Advanced Features: FLR TP
hdac0@pci0:0:27:0:  class=0x040300 card=0x21da17aa
chip=0x1c208086 rev=0x04 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family High Definition
Audio Controller' class  = multimedia
subclass   = HDA
cap 01[50] = powerspec 2  supports D0 D3  current D0
cap 05[60] = MSI supports 1 message, 64 bit enabled with 1 message
cap 10[70] = PCI-Express 1 root endpoint max data 128(128) FLR link
x0(x0) ecap 0002[100] = VC 1 max VC1
ecap 0005[130] = Root Complex Link Declaration 1
pcib1@pci0:0:28:0:  class=0x060400 card=0x21da17aa
chip=0x1c108086 rev=0xb4 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root
Port 1' class  = bridge
subclass   = PCI-PCI
cap 10[40] = PCI-Express 2 root port slot max data 128(128) link
x0(x1) speed 0.0(5.0)
cap 05[80] = MSI supports 1 message 
cap 0d[90] = PCI Bridge card=0x21da17aa
cap 01[a0] = powerspec 2  supports D0 D3  current D0
pcib2@pci0:0:28:1:  class=0x060400 card=0x21da17aa
chip=0x1c128086 rev=0xb4 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root
Port 2' class  = bridge
subclass   = PCI-PCI
cap 10[40] = PCI-Express 2 root port slot max data 128(128) link
x1(x1) speed 2.5(5.0)
cap 05[80] = MSI supports 1 message 
cap 0d[90] = PCI Bridge card=0x21da17aa
cap 01[a0] = powerspec 2  supports D0 D3  current D0
pcib3@pci0:0:28:3:  class=0x060400 card=0x21da17aa
chip=0x1c168086 rev=0xb4 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
device = '6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root
Port 4' class  = bridge
subclass   = PCI-PCI
cap 10[40] = PCI-Express 2 root port slot max data 128(128) link
x0(x1) speed 0.0(5.0)
cap 05[80] = MSI supports 1 message 

Re: gpart, slice starts at 0

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 09:11:48 -0700 (MST)
Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote:

 On Sun, 17 Feb 2013, Erich Dollansky wrote:
 
  gpart destroy -F da0
  diskinfo da0
  dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da0 bs=512 count=34
  dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da0 bs=512 count=34 seek=312581774
 
  Someone here on the lists (I unfortunately forget who) showed a
  sneaky easier way to do this:
 
  gpart destroy -F da0
  gpart create -s gpt da0
  gpart destroy -F da0
 
  This did not make a difference.
 
 It's an easier way to destroy the backup table at the end of the
 disk, whether one was there before or not, without having to
 calculate the location.

ok, so, I should keep this then.
 
  gpart show  -p da0
  gpart create -s MBR da0
  gpart add -t freebsd da0
  gpart show  -p da0
  gpart show  -p da0s1
  gpart set -a active -i 1 da0
  #
  # The following line always gives an error:
  #
  # gpart create -s BSD da0s1
 
  'destroy' is not recursive.  It destroys the geom found on the
  device given, but does not write to any geoms inside those geoms.
 
  This is obvious. What surprises me is that create does not write a
  new and empty description to the disk.
 
 It does, but not being recursive, it does not destroy the geoms
 inside the one given to the command (da0).  You had:
 
da0 (MBR)
 da0s1 (bsdlabel)
 
 After the destroy, it became
da0 (null)
  da0s1 (bsdlabel)

It seems that we talk here about the same with very different words.
The effect comes from the fact that the entries are always on the same
location on a disk.

The advantage is that repartitioning a disk stills leaves some room for
recovery.
 
 This can happen with any of the setups where there are geoms inside 
 other geoms.
 
  The second part of your question, about da0 starting a block zero:
 
  [X220]...Appl/Some Tools (root)  gpart show da0
  =   63  312581745  da0  MBR  (149G)
   63  3125817451  freebsd  [active]  (149G)
 
  [X220]...Appl/Some Tools (root)  gpart show da0s1
  =0  312581745  da0s1  BSD  (149G)
0  312581745 - free -  (149G)
 
  That shows slice one starts at block 63, standard for MBR.  The
  space inside the slice (da0s1) starts at block 0 *of the slice*.
 
  This is a bit confusing for me but it does not really matter as
  long as the programs get it straight.
 
 This is again because of the geom inside a geom setup.  The actual
 start block is the start of the slice (block 63) plus the start of
 the FreeBSD partition inside the slice (currently 0).  When you
 create FreeBSD partitions inside da0s1, they will have nonzero
 offsets from the start of the slice.  There are examples shown here:
 http://forums.freebsd.org/showpost.php?p=206204postcount=11

And I saw there how to overcome the alignment problems. It is so
simple. Just understanding it was not so simple for me.

Thanks!

Erich
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gpart, slice starts at 0

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

I did this to get a disk partitioned:

#!/bin/tcsh
###
#
# File name:FormatSamsung160GB
#
# Description:  This script formats a thumb drive connected as da0
#
###
#
gpart destroy -F da0
diskinfo da0
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da0 bs=512 count=34
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da0 bs=512 count=34 seek=312581774
gpart show  -p da0
gpart create -s MBR da0
gpart add -t freebsd da0
gpart show  -p da0
gpart show  -p da0s1
gpart set -a active -i 1 da0
#
# The following line always gives an error:
#
# gpart create -s BSD da0s1
gpart bootcode -b /boot/mbr da0
gpart bootcode -b /boot/boot da0s1
gpart show  -p da0
gpart show  -p da0s1
gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -s 512MB -l Samsung160GBroot da0s1

The script results in this output:

FormatSamsung160GB
da0 destroyed
da0 512 160041885696312581808   0   0   19457
255 63 34+0 records in
34+0 records out
17408 bytes transferred in 0.012732 secs (1367260 bytes/sec)
34+0 records in
34+0 records out
17408 bytes transferred in 0.023717 secs (733983 bytes/sec)
gpart: No such geom: da0.
da0 created
da0s1 added
=   63  312581745da0  MBR  (149G)
 63  312581745  da0s1  freebsd  (149G)

=0  312581745  da0s1  BSD  (149G)
  0  312581745 - free -  (149G)

active set on da0s1
bootcode written to da0
bootcode written to da0s1
=   63  312581745da0  MBR  (149G)
 63  312581745  da0s1  freebsd  [active]  (149G)

=0  312581745  da0s1  BSD  (149G)
  0  312581745 - free -  (149G)

gpart: Invalid argument
[X220]...Appl/Some Tools (root)  gpart show da0
=   63  312581745  da0  MBR  (149G)
 63  3125817451  freebsd  [active]  (149G)

[X220]...Appl/Some Tools (root)  gpart show da0s1
=0  312581745  da0s1  BSD  (149G)
  0  312581745 - free -  (149G)

I have now two problems which I do not understand. First, why do I need
this line and why does it fail?

gpart create -s BSD da0s1

Second, why does this slice start at 0?

=0  312581745  da0s1  BSD  (149G)
  0  312581745 - free -  (149G)

I use this as an starting point:

http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html

It worked for me some time ago.

Did I miss something very, very simple?

Erich
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Re: gpart, slice starts at 0

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 14:51:22 +0700
Erich Dollansky er...@alogt.com wrote:

 
 I did this to get a disk partitioned:
 
 #!/bin/tcsh
 ###
 #
 # File name:  FormatSamsung160GB
 #
 # Description:This script formats a thumb drive connected as
 da0 #
 ###
 #
 gpart destroy -F da0
 diskinfo da0
 dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da0 bs=512 count=34
 dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da0 bs=512 count=34 seek=312581774

if I wipe out 100% of the disk here, it all works as expected.

Can we assume that there is a problem in gpart?

Erich


 gpart show  -p da0
 gpart create -s MBR da0
 gpart add -t freebsd da0
 gpart show  -p da0
 gpart show  -p da0s1
 gpart set -a active -i 1 da0
 #
 # The following line always gives an error:
 #
 # gpart create -s BSD da0s1
 gpart bootcode -b /boot/mbr da0
 gpart bootcode -b /boot/boot da0s1
 gpart show  -p da0
 gpart show  -p da0s1
 gpart add -t freebsd-ufs -s 512MB -l Samsung160GBroot da0s1
 
 The script results in this output:
 
 FormatSamsung160GB
 da0 destroyed
 da0 512 160041885696312581808   0   0   19457
 255 63 34+0 records in
 34+0 records out
 17408 bytes transferred in 0.012732 secs (1367260 bytes/sec)
 34+0 records in
 34+0 records out
 17408 bytes transferred in 0.023717 secs (733983 bytes/sec)
 gpart: No such geom: da0.
 da0 created
 da0s1 added
 =   63  312581745da0  MBR  (149G)
  63  312581745  da0s1  freebsd  (149G)
 
 =0  312581745  da0s1  BSD  (149G)
   0  312581745 - free -  (149G)
 
 active set on da0s1
 bootcode written to da0
 bootcode written to da0s1
 =   63  312581745da0  MBR  (149G)
  63  312581745  da0s1  freebsd  [active]  (149G)
 
 =0  312581745  da0s1  BSD  (149G)
   0  312581745 - free -  (149G)
 
 gpart: Invalid argument
 [X220]...Appl/Some Tools (root)  gpart show da0
 =   63  312581745  da0  MBR  (149G)
  63  3125817451  freebsd  [active]  (149G)
 
 [X220]...Appl/Some Tools (root)  gpart show da0s1
 =0  312581745  da0s1  BSD  (149G)
   0  312581745 - free -  (149G)
 
 I have now two problems which I do not understand. First, why do I
 need this line and why does it fail?
 
 gpart create -s BSD da0s1
 
 Second, why does this slice start at 0?
 
 =0  312581745  da0s1  BSD  (149G)
   0  312581745 - free -  (149G)
 
 I use this as an starting point:
 
 http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html
 
 It worked for me some time ago.
 
 Did I miss something very, very simple?
 
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Re: gpart, slice starts at 0

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 08:44:50 -0700 (MST)
Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote:

 On Sat, 16 Feb 2013, Erich Dollansky wrote:
 
  I did this to get a disk partitioned:
 
  #!/bin/tcsh
 
 Gah!
 
it is a generated script.

  gpart destroy -F da0
  diskinfo da0
  dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da0 bs=512 count=34
  dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da0 bs=512 count=34 seek=312581774
 
 Someone here on the lists (I unfortunately forget who) showed a
 sneaky easier way to do this:
 
 gpart destroy -F da0
 gpart create -s gpt da0
 gpart destroy -F da0
 
This did not make a difference.

  gpart show  -p da0
  gpart create -s MBR da0
  gpart add -t freebsd da0
  gpart show  -p da0
  gpart show  -p da0s1
  gpart set -a active -i 1 da0
  #
  # The following line always gives an error:
  #
  # gpart create -s BSD da0s1
 
 'destroy' is not recursive.  It destroys the geom found on the device 
 given, but does not write to any geoms inside those geoms.
 
This is obvious. What surprises me is that create does not write a new
and empty description to the disk.

 MBR/bsdlabel puts FreeBSD partitions inside MBR slices.
 
 So da0 has been erased, but the bsdlabel blocks for da0s1 are still 
 present.  If you recreate da0, da0s1 will magically reappear.
 
This is what I struggeled with all the time.

 Destroy the FreeBSD disklabel stuff in the slices first:
gpart destroy -F da0s1

And this was the solution. Thanks!
 
 Or instead, use GPT partitioning to avoid dealing with the problem of 
 one type of partitions inside a different type of partitions.  GPT
 makes disk partitioning a lot easier.

I am bit tired of having to read handbooks/manuals whenever I get a new
device. Out of this, I am currently writing a small program which
allows me easy 'formatting' of the device. MBR is just one option the
program has. I will publish it when it is really working as I want it
to. It will take some time as I do this on the side only.
 
 The second part of your question, about da0 starting a block zero:
 
  [X220]...Appl/Some Tools (root)  gpart show da0
  =   63  312581745  da0  MBR  (149G)
   63  3125817451  freebsd  [active]  (149G)
 
  [X220]...Appl/Some Tools (root)  gpart show da0s1
  =0  312581745  da0s1  BSD  (149G)
0  312581745 - free -  (149G)
 
 That shows slice one starts at block 63, standard for MBR.  The space 
 inside the slice (da0s1) starts at block 0 *of the slice*.

This is a bit confusing for me but it does not really matter as long as
the programs get it straight.

Erich
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Re: 7+ days of dogfood

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Mon, 11 Feb 2013 11:48:11 +0100
Fabian Keil freebsd-lis...@fabiankeil.de wrote:

 Steve Kargl s...@troutmask.apl.washington.edu wrote:
 
  My conclusion:  on at least my not-so-new laptop, FreeBSD-10 can
  be used in a desktop environment if one takes some care during the
  installation.
 
 I'm using CURRENT on my also-no-so-new laptop since FreeBSD 7
 (I think) and came to the same conclusion.
 
I did this during 6.x time but got stuck then with 6.x and never went
back until last May/June.

 It's unfortunate that the builworld time roughly trippled since
 2010 but I guess that's progress and a more powerful system
 should fix it. I certainly welcome clang in general, though.
 
Trippled? Are you sure? I have the feeling it is much worse than this.
Was it in 2009 when I could compile world in a few minutes on my quad
core. The same machine takes now hours despite having more memory.

I run currently my desktop and my notebook on 10. If I stick with my
policy, I would stay with 10 until 12 would be available.

On the other side, it feels so outdated not to have something like
the most current version.

Erich
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Re: 7+ days of dogfood

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi Erik,

On Mon, 11 Feb 2013 12:43:17 +0100
Erik Cederstrand e...@cederstrand.dk wrote:

= Den 11/02/2013 kl. 00.38 skrev Erich Dollansky
 erichsfreebsdl...@alogt.com:
 
  On Sun, 10 Feb 2013 15:57:01 +0100
  Erik Cederstrand e...@cederstrand.dk wrote:
  
  And as long as there is no automatic can taster doing quality
  assurance of the produced cans, then foul cans will go unnoticed
  until a dog pukes all over the carpet :-)
  
  Isn't this the idea of HEAD?
 
 It's certainly not the idea of HEAD that everyone should experience
 the same bugs, compile errors, runtime errors and even have old bugs
 pop up again repeatedly. It may be the consequence of running HEAD,
 but certainly not the idea.

ok, I agree that developers could react faster some times. But, isn't
it more important that the errors are caught at all?
 
  For this to change, we really need to catch up on years of neglect
  in e.g. src/tools/regression/. I really applaud the people doing
  the thankless job of changing this.
  
  I do not believe that this all can be automated.
 
 I'm not saying that testing is all-or-nothing. OS testing is not
 easy, and many tests are impractical or expensive if they require
 real hardware in complicated setups. How do you reliably test an IEEE
 802.11s mesh implementation? Or scheduling on huge servers that are
 too expensive to purchase? I think that is one of the reasons that
 FreeBSD has not caught up on automated testing and continuous
 integration. But regression tests are useful even though they don't
 give 100% code coverage. Currently, you can't even make test in
 src/tools/regression/ and run the tests that are there. Apart from
 the compile-tests done by the tinderboxes, I'm not aware of any
 coordinated effort to systematically do runtime or even performance
 testing of FreeBSD.
 
So, the best is still if people like me are eating dog food and start
complaining?

Do not get me wrong here. I do not complain about the fact that there
might be an error, I want to help poin-point the error with my
complaint.

Erich
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Re: 7+ days of dogfood

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Sun, 10 Feb 2013 15:57:01 +0100
Erik Cederstrand e...@cederstrand.dk wrote:

 Den 10/02/2013 kl. 02.30 skrev Erich Dollansky
 erichsfreebsdl...@alogt.com:
 
  I am on dog food since last May/June. How should I phrase it? Every
  can tastes different. Most cans have a perfect taste but some cans
  are really off.
 
 And as long as there is no automatic can taster doing quality
 assurance of the produced cans, then foul cans will go unnoticed
 until a dog pukes all over the carpet :-)
 
Isn't this the idea of HEAD?

 For this to change, we really need to catch up on years of neglect in
 e.g. src/tools/regression/. I really applaud the people doing the
 thankless job of changing this.
 
I do not believe that this all can be automated.

Erich
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Re: 7+ days of dogfood

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Sat, 9 Feb 2013 16:07:23 -0800
Steve Kargl s...@troutmask.apl.washington.edu wrote:

 actual real-world conditions.  In his words, FreeBSD should eat its
 own dogfood.  The new installation on FreeBSD.org, of course, would

I am on dog food since last May/June. How should I phrase it? Every can
tastes different. Most cans have a perfect taste but some cans are
really off.

So, when I see a bad can, I go back to my old can, wait a day and get
me then a new can. This is then - most likely - good again.

This is the real reason why it is not possible to run important
machines on dog food. If one can is bad, the machine is down.

As FreeBSD.org sits next to the canning machine, it can run on dog food.

Erich
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Re: gpart resize vs. cache?

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Sun, 3 Feb 2013 12:06:41 -0800
Tim Kientzle kient...@freebsd.org wrote:

 I'm tinkering with a disk image that automatically
 fills whatever media you put it onto.  But I'm having
 trouble with gpart resize failing.
 
 Disk layout:
MBR with two slices  mmcsd0s1 and mmcsd0s2
bsdlabel with one partition mmcsd0s2a
 
 Before I can use growfs, I have two gpart resize operations:
 
 1)   gpart resize -i 2 mmcsd0
 
 2)  gpart resize -i 1 mmcsd0s2
 
 Step 1 resizes mmcsd0s2 and always succeeds.
 
 Step 2 resizes mmcsd0s2a and always fails
 with No space on device.
 
I used a gpart show between in a different situation. The script did
not work without it. When I entered the same commands from the command
line, they all worked. So, things could be related to cache or delayed
writes.

Erich
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FreeBSD 10, booting from USB failes

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

I have several thumb drives and had disks. To be able to exchange the
hard disks, all devices are bootable. I have tested the setup some time
ago and it did not give me problems to boot from the external media via USB.

I will take two hard disks as an example:

=   63  976773105  ada0  MBR  (465G)
 63   1953- free -  (976k)
   2016  976771152 1  freebsd  (465G)

=0  976771152  ada0s1  BSD  (465G)
  0   1024   1  freebsd-ufs  (4.9G)
   1024   32768000   2  freebsd-swap  (15G)
   43008000   1024   4  freebsd-ufs  (4.9G)
   53248000   1024   5  freebsd-ufs  (4.9G)
   63488000  10240   6  freebsd-ufs  (48G)
  165888000  810883144   7  freebsd-ufs  (386G)
  976771144  8  - free -  (4.0k)

=   34  976773098  da0  GPT  (465G)
 341281  freebsd-boot  (64k)
162  6   - free -  (3.0k)
168   104857602  freebsd-ufs  (5.0G)
   10485928   335544323  freebsd-swap  (16G)
   44040360   104857604  freebsd-ufs  (5.0G)
   54526120   104857605  freebsd-ufs  (5.0G)
   65011880  1048576006  freebsd-ufs  (50G)
  169869480  8069036487  freebsd-ufs  (384G)
  976773128  4   - free -  (2.0k)

The system started from ada0. It fails to start from da0 now.

Before I switch the disks, does anybody know of something which causes
the problem?

If this matters, I did this with an X220 ThinkPad.

Erich
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Re: X on ThinkPad X220 with chrome or firefox goes blank

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Mon, 17 Dec 2012 11:44:59 +0200
Artyom Mirgorodskiy artyom.mirgorod...@gmail.com wrote:

 Did you try to rebuild xorg-server with latest clang patch? (this
 patch commited 2-3 days ago)

I do not know as I updated the ports tree around this time. Let me do
it again.

Thanks for the hint.

Erich
 
 On Monday 17 December 2012 08:40:37 Erich Dollansky wrote:
  Hi,
  
  I updated my notebook over the last couple of days and have now
  problems starting chrome and firefox. The effect is that the screen
  turns blury leaving hard to recognose characters on a white screen
  after starting any of these applications.
  
  I can use Ctrl-Alt-F2 to come back to the terminal. Of course, this
  is now a flight in the dark. After entering Ctrl-C and restart X, I
  get a new X running until I start firefox or chrome again.
  
  Applications like Claws Mail, Arora or xterm work without problems.
  
  I do not see anything different in the log file of X.
  
  Does anybody have a clue what could cause this?
  
  I will recompile and reinstall all my ports now to see what will
  come out there.
  
  Erich
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Re: X on ThinkPad X220 with chrome or firefox goes blank

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Mon, 17 Dec 2012 11:44:59 +0200
Artyom Mirgorodskiy artyom.mirgorod...@gmail.com wrote:

 Did you try to rebuild xorg-server with latest clang patch? (this
 patch commited 2-3 days ago)

it seems that my X server was a bit too old. I just upgraded and all
works fine now?

Thanks!

Erich
 
 On Monday 17 December 2012 08:40:37 Erich Dollansky wrote:
  Hi,
  
  I updated my notebook over the last couple of days and have now
  problems starting chrome and firefox. The effect is that the screen
  turns blury leaving hard to recognose characters on a white screen
  after starting any of these applications.
  
  I can use Ctrl-Alt-F2 to come back to the terminal. Of course, this
  is now a flight in the dark. After entering Ctrl-C and restart X, I
  get a new X running until I start firefox or chrome again.
  
  Applications like Claws Mail, Arora or xterm work without problems.
  
  I do not see anything different in the log file of X.
  
  Does anybody have a clue what could cause this?
  
  I will recompile and reinstall all my ports now to see what will
  come out there.
  
  Erich
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X on ThinkPad X220 with chrome or firefox goes blank

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

I updated my notebook over the last couple of days and have now
problems starting chrome and firefox. The effect is that the screen
turns blury leaving hard to recognose characters on a white screen
after starting any of these applications.

I can use Ctrl-Alt-F2 to come back to the terminal. Of course, this is
now a flight in the dark. After entering Ctrl-C and restart X, I get a
new X running until I start firefox or chrome again.

Applications like Claws Mail, Arora or xterm work without problems.

I do not see anything different in the log file of X.

Does anybody have a clue what could cause this?

I will recompile and reinstall all my ports now to see what will come
out there.

Erich
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Re: looking for help from ppp users

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 01:14:10 -0500
Eitan Adler li...@eitanadler.com wrote:

 On 3 December 2012 10:41, Gary Palmer gpal...@freebsd.org wrote:
  While not commenting on the correctness of the current contents,
  the userland PPP section of the FAQ appears to mostly deal with
  dialup modems.  I suspect more people use it now to do PPPoA or
  PPPoE for some form of DSL link and there probably needs to be some
  effort to address the differences.
 
 I've never used PPP in any sense.  Any chance I could enlist you to
 help write some content?  I could turn it into docbook, edit it, etc.
 
 
 
let me share my experience with ppp and one CDMA 'modem' we have to use
in Indonesia.

First, what makes it work in ppp.conf:

 set device /dev/cuaU0.0
 set ctsrts off
 set login
 set dial
 set authname internet@ceria
 set authkey ceria
 set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.0 0.0.0.0
 add default HISADDR
 enable dns# set dns servers in resolv.conf
 nat enable yes
 nat deny_incoming yes
 set phone #777


The fun starts with the first start and after each restart of the modem
after the battery went empty. It simply does not work after above's
commands are entered manually one by one.

There is no useful error message except that the modem either sends the
wrong authentication information to the server or something else makes
it drop the connection after this information is sent when doing it via
the script.

If I manually enter these commands, it works from the start. Of course,
this is a problem caused by the modem but mentioning this in the
handbook could help others in this strange situation.

Erich
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Re: compiler info in kernel identification string

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 00:43:03 +0100
Mateusz Guzik mjgu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,
 
 avg@ suggested to include compiler version in the kernel so that it's
 present in uname (and one can easly tell what was used to compile it).
 
 Here is my attempt:
 http://people.freebsd.org/~mjg/patches/newvers-compiler.diff
 
 Basically adds compiler name and version/revision after revision of
 system sources.
 
 Sample output from dirty git sources:
 gcc:
 FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #7 r242962=264d569-dirty(gcc-4.2.1-20070831): Wed
 Nov 14 00:11:51 CET 2012
 
 clang:
 FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #8 r242962=264d569-dirty(clang-r162107): Wed Nov
 14 00:12:26 CET 2012
 
 Sample output from svn with gcc:
 FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #1 r243006:243007M(gcc-4.2.1-20070831): Wed Nov
 14 00:41:23 CET 2012
 
 I have no strong opinions on format, I just want this information
 easly accessible.
 
 Comments?
 

this is a good idea!

Erich
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Re: November 5th is Clang-Day

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 21:59:17 -0700
Steve Kargl s...@troutmask.apl.washington.edu wrote:

 On Thu, Nov 01, 2012 at 10:29:45PM -0500, Brooks Davis wrote:
   - Not all libm tests pass.  More work by subject matter experts is
 required to create tests cases for LLVM developers.  Most
  problems are not expected to be major in practice given that LLVM
  is being used for scientific computing in a number of products
  including Cray's FORTRAN compiler, most OpenCL compilers, and the
  Julia language.
 
 Is there a knob to continue to use GCC as the default compiler?  
 
 The above statement is somewhat troubling to those of us
 who use FreeBSD as computational nodes.
 
 BTW, the name of the language is Fortran.  It's been Fortran
 for the last 30-something years.

I never realised the name change. It seems that I am not alone with
this.

Erich
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Re: Unable to load i915kms

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 15:21:36 +0800
Denny Lin dennyli...@hs.ntnu.edu.tw wrote:

  How do the wrong modules get loaded?
 
 Thanks for all the help guys. The problem was the result of my own
 stupidity.
 
 I went through some code trying to find out why the wrong modules were
 loaded, and I discovered that I previously commented out this line in
 x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel/Makefile:
 EXTRA_PATCHES+= ${PATCHDIR}/extra-i915kms

so, wrong name -- wrong modules. This simple.

Erich
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Re: Unable to load i915kms

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 09:53:50 +0800
Denny Lin dennyli...@hs.ntnu.edu.tw wrote:
 
 I updated to r238858 yesterday, but I was unable to load i915kms (I
 tried loading it manually and putting it in /boot/loader.conf). The
 computer becomes unresponsive and the screen turns black in either
 case. I'm using the GENERIC kernel with WITNESS and INVARIANTS
 disabled.
 
 Output of pciconf -lvb:
 vgapci1@pci0:0:2:0:   class=0x03 card=0x15f21043
 chip=0x01168086 rev=0x09 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
 device = '2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated
 Graphics Controller' class  = display
 subclass   = VGA
 bar   [10] = type Memory, range 64, base 0xdd40, size
 4194304, enabled bar   [18] = type Prefetchable Memory, range 64,
 base 0xb000, size 268435456, enabled bar   [20] = type I/O Port,
 range 32, base 0xe000, size 64, enabled
 
 Modules loaded at boot:
 Id Refs AddressSize Name
  1   38 0x8020 12c57f0  kernel
  21 0x814c6000 70a8 acpi_video.ko
  31 0x814ce000 6568 cuse4bsd.ko
  41 0x81612000 cea0 geom_eli.ko
  51 0x8161f000 1abc1crypto.ko
  61 0x8163a000 a4f9 zlib.ko
  71 0x81645000 15e2 fdescfs.ko
  81 0x81647000 3daf linprocfs.ko
  91 0x8164b000 1eeb2linux.ko
 101 0x8166a000 2393 ums.ko
 111 0x8166d000 17d3 uhid.ko
 121 0x8166f000 a9f3 fuse.ko

this seems to be wrong:

 131 0x8167a000 7019 i915.ko
 141 0x81682000 111c4drm.ko
 
From my machine:

 21 0x817e4000 aee0 sem.ko
 31 0x81a12000 9db3 linprocfs.ko
 41 0x81a1c000 587a5linux.ko
 51 0x81a75000 3900 ums.ko
 61 0x81a79000 2b0d uhid.ko
 71 0x81a7c000 1b7a1ng_btsocket.ko
 81 0x81a98000 ba58 netgraph.ko
 91 0x81aa4000 118b ng_bluetooth.ko
101 0x81aa6000 a9f3 fuse.ko
111 0x81ab1000 69298i915kms.ko
121 0x81b1b000 1ba2 iicbb.ko
134 0x81b1d000 1ddb iicbus.ko
141 0x81b1f000 1cd5 iic.ko
151 0x81b21000 32386drm2.ko
161 0x81b54000 241  acpi_call.ko

So, why did drm.ko and i915.ko make it into your kernel?

 I have WITH_KMS=YES and WITH_NEW_XORG=YES in /etc/make.conf. I also
 rebuilt xorg-* and xf86-video-intel after updating to r238858.
 
 Xorg previously worked on my laptop with all.14.3.patch on top of
 -CURRENT from around mid-April, so I'm not sure what went wrong.
 
I did not touch this machine since 16.07.12.

Maybe your patches affected something. Can you download a fresh source
tree?

Erich
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Re: Unable to load i915kms

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 12:20:13 +0800
Denny Lin dennyli...@hs.ntnu.edu.tw wrote:

 On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 10:59:54AM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote:
  this seems to be wrong:
  
   131 0x8167a000 7019 i915.ko
   141 0x81682000 111c4drm.ko
   
  From my machine:
  
   21 0x817e4000 aee0 sem.ko
   31 0x81a12000 9db3 linprocfs.ko
   41 0x81a1c000 587a5linux.ko
   51 0x81a75000 3900 ums.ko
   61 0x81a79000 2b0d uhid.ko
   71 0x81a7c000 1b7a1ng_btsocket.ko
   81 0x81a98000 ba58 netgraph.ko
   91 0x81aa4000 118b ng_bluetooth.ko
  101 0x81aa6000 a9f3 fuse.ko
  111 0x81ab1000 69298i915kms.ko
  121 0x81b1b000 1ba2 iicbb.ko
  134 0x81b1d000 1ddb iicbus.ko
  141 0x81b1f000 1cd5 iic.ko
  151 0x81b21000 32386drm2.ko
  161 0x81b54000 241  acpi_call.ko
  
  So, why did drm.ko and i915.ko make it into your kernel?
 
 Both are built by default, but only drm.ko and i915.ko are loaded
 automatically. i915kms.ko has to loaded manually:
 http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-x11/2012-May/011857.html
 
ok, try to use my script:

http://www.alogreentechnologies.com/freebsd/XonX220

I do not know what this script will do when drm and i915 are already
loaded.

 I do have i915kms and drm2.ko, but every time I try to load
 i915kms.ko, the computer blacks out.

The black screen is normal if you do not start X.
 
   I have WITH_KMS=YES and WITH_NEW_XORG=YES in /etc/make.conf. I
   also rebuilt xorg-* and xf86-video-intel after updating to
   r238858.
   
   Xorg previously worked on my laptop with all.14.3.patch on top of
   -CURRENT from around mid-April, so I'm not sure what went wrong.
   
  I did not touch this machine since 16.07.12.
  
  Maybe your patches affected something. Can you download a fresh
  source tree?
 
 I used a new checkout when I updated to r238858, so this shouldn't be
 a problem.
 
It could be that the two loaded modules cause the problem.

Erich
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Re: Unable to load i915kms

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 21:49:18 -0700
Kevin Oberman kob6...@gmail.com wrote:

 You are working too hard from old information. Do not attempt to load
 i915kms.ko. Do not attempt to load drm2.ko. For the past months the
 drivers have been fixed to automatically load all needed drivers and
 kernel modules when Xorg is started. My Sandybridge behaves just like

How do the wrong modules get loaded?

 your system if I try to manually load i915kms.ko. Screen goes black
 and that is the end.

It still works for me. You know, never change a winning team. There
seem to be small differences between the CPU/GPUs.

Erich
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Re: (void)foo or __unused foo ?

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 11:38:24 +0200
Luigi Rizzo ri...@iet.unipi.it wrote:

 In writing cross platform code I often have to deal with function
 arguments or variables that are not used on certain platforms.
 In FreeBSD:sys/cdefs.h we have
 
if I understand you right here, it is you own code that has to run on
different platforms.

I can only tell what we are doing since a long long time. We have one
file which handles all these things in one central location.

This makes all other files independent of the platform but this one
file might needs some work when a new platform comes in or things
change on one platform.

 Any disadvantage or objection to selectively use this form
 in our kernel code for parts that need to work on multiple
 platforms ?

This concept also works inside a kernel, driver or in the world. The
concept should then be limited to the module.

Erich
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machine freezes when using USB disk and X

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

I have strange problem which I can reproduce.

When I copy some 100GB to a disk via USB when X is not active, it works
without any problems.

When I copy some 100GB to a disk via USB when X is running, the machine
freezes. It does not react to keyboard, mouse and network actions.

When I use only X on the same machine and do the same copy via network,
the machine behaves as expected.

What could I do to locate the problem?

Erich

PS

uname says:

FreeBSD AMD620.ovitrap.com 10.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #38: Sat
Jul 21 06:58:49 WIT 2012
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Re: machine freezes when using USB disk and X

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Wed, 25 Jul 2012 16:13:04 +0200
Hans Petter Selasky hsela...@c2i.net wrote:
 On Wednesday 25 July 2012 14:54:08 Erich Dollansky wrote:
  
  I have strange problem which I can reproduce.
  
  When I copy some 100GB to a disk via USB when X is not active, it
  works without any problems.
  
  When I copy some 100GB to a disk via USB when X is running, the
  machine freezes. It does not react to keyboard, mouse and network
  actions.
  
  When I use only X on the same machine and do the same copy via
  network, the machine behaves as expected.
  
  What could I do to locate the problem?
  
  Erich
  
  PS
  
  uname says:
  
  FreeBSD AMD620.ovitrap.com 10.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #38:
  Sat Jul 21 06:58:49 WIT 2012
 
 You might want to check what interrupts are shared. Might be an IRQ
 problem.

it does not look like. As it was working before since 8.0 without
problems, I cannot imagine that this is the real problem even if they
would be shared.

I do not expect a solution for this. It is more or less a hint for
developers working in the affected areas that there might be something
wrong.

Erich
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Re: Script to monitor battery status on X220

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Friday 20 July 2012 12:31:08 Lars Engels wrote:
 On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 10:04:59AM +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote:
  Hi,
  
  I forget yesterday to share these two scripts:
  
  http://www.alogreentechnologies.com/freebsd/checkbattery
  
  checks the battery status of an X220 and shuts the machine down when the 
  battery falls to 2% or below.
  
  The status is checked every minute.
  
  It calls the following script to shut the machine down:
  
  http://www.alogreentechnologies.com/freebsd/poweroff
  
  You must run the first script as root to enable it to power the machine off 
  at the end.
  
  I found that the battery life of my machine was higher using a simple 
  window manager like blackbox compared to things like GNOME or KDE. This 
  might depend on the usage pattern.
  
  Erich
 
 Is it necessary to poll? Usually devd generates an event when the
 battery status and/or percentage changes. Just read the events from
 /var/run/devd.pipe.
 
this is a good idea. I did not like this solution either but did not get a 
better idea when I did it.

Erich
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Re: Script to monitor battery status on X220

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Friday 20 July 2012 16:13:56 Matthias Apitz wrote:
 El día Friday, July 20, 2012 a las 03:45:23PM +0700, Erich Dollansky escribió:
 
   ... 
   Is it necessary to poll? Usually devd generates an event when the
   battery status and/or percentage changes. Just read the events from
   /var/run/devd.pipe.
   
  this is a good idea. I did not like this solution either but did not get a 
  better idea when I did it.
 
 I wrote and used something similar for my netbook EeePC 900; it turned
 out that the battery is not showing the remaining capacity in a linear

this is also true on the X220.

 way; the last 5% are 'consumed' in a few seconds, i.e. below 20% I
 polled every 2 seconds;

I did some tests until I ended at the 2%. There was always enough energy left 
in the battery to restart the machine.

I wonder anyway how they do it. I developed battery monitors a long time ago. 
As the voltage drop is not linear and the tolerances are very high. They might 
calibrate each battery when it reaches certain levels.

Erich
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Re: usb plugin msg class

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Friday 20 July 2012 21:34:42 Fbsd8 wrote:
 In 8.x and older when I plugged in my usb thumb drive I got some 
 messages on the console. But in 9.0 and 9.1 those message no longer show 
 up on my console. I have a custom /etc/syslog.conf
 
 Did the message class of those usb plug-in message change between 8.x 
 and 9.x? IE as defined in /etc/syslog.conf
 
 If their in a new class what is it?

I do not know. I only know that it works with the following configuration:

# $FreeBSD$
#
#   Spaces ARE valid field separators in this file. However,
#   other *nix-like systems still insist on using tabs as field
#   separators. If you are sharing this file between systems, you
#   may want to use only tabs as field separators here.
#   Consult the syslog.conf(5) manpage.
*.err;kern.warning;auth.notice;mail.crit/dev/console
*.notice;authpriv.none;kern.debug;lpr.info;mail.crit;news.err   
/var/log/messages
security.*  /var/log/security
auth.info;authpriv.info /var/log/auth.log
mail.info   /var/log/maillog
lpr.info/var/log/lpd-errs
ftp.info/var/log/xferlog
cron.*  /var/log/cron
*.=debug/var/log/debug.log
*.emerg *
# uncomment this to log all writes to /dev/console to /var/log/console.log
#console.info   /var/log/console.log
# uncomment this to enable logging of all log messages to /var/log/all.log
# touch /var/log/all.log and chmod it to mode 600 before it will work
#*.*/var/log/all.log
# uncomment this to enable logging to a remote loghost named loghost
#*.*@loghost
# uncomment these if you're running inn
# news.crit /var/log/news/news.crit
# news.err  /var/log/news/news.err
# news.notice   /var/log/news/news.notice
!ppp
*.* /var/log/ppp.log
!*

The file is the from a default installation of 10.

Erich
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two scripts for X220 users

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

I would like to share two scripts I found useful running FreeBSD on an X220 
with Intel KMS.

Script to start X:

http://www.alogreentechnologies.com/freebsd/XonX220

starts X after it loaded i915kms and acpi_call. 

The machine must have /usr/ports/sysutils/acpi_call installed.

This script was inspired by http://wiki.freebsd.org/Intel_GPU

Script to set LCD brightness:

http://www.alogreentechnologies.com/freebsd/setbrightness

sets the brightness of the LCD.

As I only have one X220 with an Intel CPU, the scripts have not been tested on 
any other machine.

Feel free to use them and comment on them.

Erich
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Re: two scripts for X220 users

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Thursday 19 July 2012 23:30:20 Kevin Oberman wrote:
 On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 6:06 AM, Erich Dollansky
 erichfreebsdl...@ovitrap.com wrote:
 
  http://www.alogreentechnologies.com/freebsd/setbrightness
 
 I am curious about the reason you load i915kms before starting X,

when I started with it, it was necessary. You know how it is with something 
that works. Better do not change it.

Erich
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Script to monitor battery status on X220

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

I forget yesterday to share these two scripts:

http://www.alogreentechnologies.com/freebsd/checkbattery

checks the battery status of an X220 and shuts the machine down when the 
battery falls to 2% or below.

The status is checked every minute.

It calls the following script to shut the machine down:

http://www.alogreentechnologies.com/freebsd/poweroff

You must run the first script as root to enable it to power the machine off at 
the end.

I found that the battery life of my machine was higher using a simple window 
manager like blackbox compared to things like GNOME or KDE. This might depend 
on the usage pattern.

Erich
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Re: Erratic USB mouse behaviour when wireless is down and USB hard disk connected

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Sunday 15 July 2012 15:25:10 Adrian Chadd wrote:
 Sounds like bluetooth coexistence?
 
the problem are only there when the network goes down while being used. When 
the network is down when I start the machine and when the network is up and 
running, the problem is not there.

This makes it so weird for me.

Ok, after a restart the problem was solved. But, are we really used to restart 
FreeBSD because of things like this?

Erich
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Re: Erratic USB mouse behaviour when wireless is down and USB hard disk connected

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Monday 16 July 2012 20:07:27 Hans Petter Selasky wrote:
 On Monday 16 July 2012 14:47:04 Erich Dollansky wrote:
  Hi,
  
  On Sunday 15 July 2012 15:25:10 Adrian Chadd wrote:
   Sounds like bluetooth coexistence?
  
  the problem are only there when the network goes down while being used.
  When the network is down when I start the machine and when the network is
  up and running, the problem is not there.
  
  This makes it so weird for me.
  
  Ok, after a restart the problem was solved. But, are we really used to
  restart FreeBSD because of things like this?
  
 
 What does top and vmstat -i say. I think this is more a hardware problem 
 than software problem, like lost/shared interrupts. Maybe the IRQ is not 
 properly masked when downing the network interface.

I did not think of vmstat at that moment of time. Top did not show me anything 
which was completely out.

Do not worry too much. I hoped to give a hint here for a programmer who might 
has noticed something like this.

I hope to do some testing soon.

Erich
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Erratic USB mouse behaviour when wireless is down and USB hard disk connected

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

I know that this is not a very helpful information.

I have an Lenovo X220 running 10 from some 2 weeks ago. I just noticed that 
the USB mouse (a wireless Logitech Trackman) becomes unusable when the 
wireless (iwn) is not able to connect to the access point and a USB hard disk 
is plugged in. Even when no data are transferred the USB mouse is unusable.

The built-in track-point behaves just normal.

When I turn off the wireless network via the hardware switch, the system stays 
usable as expected even under heavy hard disk access. If it was not something 
else I have missed, the only difference was the access point which went down 
when I noticed the problem.

Please understand this just as a hint to the developers of the sub-systems 
which could cause the problem. As this network here is not mine, I am not able 
to do any tests with it.

If somebody has an idea what could be tested, tell me please. I will have 
access to 'my' network the coming week again.

Erich
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Re: Erratic USB mouse behaviour when wireless is down and USB hard disk connected

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Friday, July 13, 2012 09:10:16 PM Bernhard Schmidt wrote:
 On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Erich Dollansky
 
 erichfreebsdl...@ovitrap.com wrote:
  Hi,
  
  I know that this is not a very helpful information.
  
  I have an Lenovo X220 running 10 from some 2 weeks ago. I just noticed
  that the USB mouse (a wireless Logitech Trackman) becomes unusable when
  the wireless (iwn) is not able to connect to the access point and a USB
  hard disk is plugged in. Even when no data are transferred the USB mouse
  is unusable.
 
 Which frequency is the mouse working on? something in the 2.4GHz region?
 
 I remember having lots of fun at $office with the mouse of colleague.
 It used channel 6 and the amount of traffic generating over wireless
 LAN had direct influence on the accuracy of his mouse activity ;)
 
 Anyways, if you have the chance to switch to another channel, give it a
 shot.

I have to check on this. As the channels of the network here are fixed, this 
only can happen when the network is down. As I said, I can test it next week.

Erich
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'HAL_INT_RXHP' undeclared (first use in this function)

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

I updated my source tree a few hours ago and get now error messages like the 
one above while compiling 

/usr/src/sys/dev/ath/if_ath.c

'HAL_INT_RXHP' and 'HAL_INT_RXLP' seem to be totally unknown. There is one 
comment regarding the first of them.

Google does not much either:

'Your search - HAL_INT_RXHP - did not match any documents. '

Who knows more about the values to be used for them?

Erich
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Re: side note on the X220 running CURRENT: head phone jack works

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Friday, July 06, 2012 03:24:34 AM Kevin Oberman wrote:
 On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 8:49 PM, Erich Dollansky
 erichfreebsdl...@ovitrap.com wrote:
  Hi,
 
  there have been some people here - including me - wondering whether the 
  head phone jack works. Yes, it does.
 
  I just have had the chance to connect the head phone jack. It works when 
  vlc is set to use /dev/dsp1.0.
 
  Using /dev/dsp0.1 brings sound to the built-in speakers.
 
 The proper fix is to add the following to /boot/loader.conf:

it is the general way as it should work with all applications.

 # Out : speaker + headphones
 hint.hdac.0.cad0.nid25.config=as=1 seq=15
 # In : mic + external mic
 hint.hdac.0.cad0.nid35.config=as=2
 hint.hdac.0.cad0.nid27.config=as=2 seq=15
 
I added this to the loader.conf file and will test when I will get my hands on 
the equipment.

Thanks!

Erich
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side note on the X220 running CURRENT: head phone jack works

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

there have been some people here - including me - wondering whether the head 
phone jack works. Yes, it does.
 
I just have had the chance to connect the head phone jack. It works when vlc is 
set to use /dev/dsp1.0.

Using /dev/dsp0.1 brings sound to the built-in speakers.

Erich
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Re: no keyboard after booting r235646 in laptop FS Amilo D 7830

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Sunday, July 01, 2012 01:58:49 PM Matthias Apitz wrote:
 El día Sunday, July 01, 2012 a las 06:29:28AM +0700, Erich Dollansky escribió:
 
   and no older versions. I will install the USB booted system to harddisk
   and hope when booted from disk and not from USB the keyboard is working.
   
 
 I installed the system r235646 to disk and it shows the same problem: no
 keyboard;
 
ok.

  if 7.4 still runs but not anything after 8.0, it is most likely what I have 
  written. Some USB hardware is not supported anymore in 8 and later.
  
  I would install the old one just to see  You will also know wat hwardware 
  is used there and how it is supported.
  
  This might be the faster route before starting debugging something which is 
  not there.
 
 I said already that it works with a r21 version, CURRENT from
 October 2010; so I booted this again and concerning keyboard, here is
 the diff:

Of course, I have read it but forgot about it then.
 
 r21:
 
 atkbdc0: Keyboard controller (i8042) at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0
 
 r235646:
 
 $ fgrep -i kb /tmp/dmesg-r235646.txt 
 atkbd: the current kbd controller command byte 0065
 atkbd: keyboard ID 0x41ab (2)
 sc0: fb0, kbd1, terminal emulator: scteken (teken terminal)
 atkbdc0 failed to probe at port 0x60 on isa0

It must be the probing routine then. My keyboard here is at acpi but not on 
isa0.

Is all in the kernel which is needed for isa? It should be, but a check could 
help.

 So the question is: why the Keyboard controller (i8042) is not
 detected anymore in r235646, while it is in r21?
 
Maybe the hints from man will help you:

Kernel configuration:

 options KBD_RESETDELAY=N
 options KBD_MAXWAIT=N
 options KBDIO_DEBUG=N
 device atkbdc

Are they still there?

/boot/device.hints:

 hint.atkbdc.0.at=isa
 hint.atkbdc.0.port=0x060

I do not know if some defaults have changed.

Erich
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Re: no keyboard after booting r235646 in laptop FS Amilo D 7830

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Saturday, June 30, 2012 01:25:33 PM Matthias Apitz wrote:
 El día Friday, June 29, 2012 a las 04:45:57PM +0200, Hans Petter Selasky 
 escribió:
 
  On Friday 29 June 2012 15:34:23 Matthias Apitz wrote:
   Hello,
   
   I have a boot-able USB key with r235646 which works fine in all my
   laptops so far; today I got as a gift an older FS Amilo D 7830 which has
   enough resources to use it as new build machine (1 GByte RAM, 80 GByte
   disk). I booted  it with from the USB key and after the system is up it
   does not echo or react on any key-press; before booting the keys are
   working, for example in the menu to boot into single user etc.
   
   What could be the problem?
   
   I will later configure that the USB booted system brings Ethernet and
   SSH up, maybe I can see something when I can login via SSH...
 
 I have just for beeing curios booted an older USB key with r21
 (from October 2010) and the keyboard just works as it should;
 
I have had a problem like this before. I have had to stick with an older 
FreeBSD version on this machine.

Can you try FreeBSD 7.4 or 8.3?

It is sad to say but some times support for older hardware gets cut out for 
whatever reason.

Erich
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Re: problem with top

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Sunday, July 01, 2012 06:51:41 AM AN wrote:
 FreeBSD FBSD10 10.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #23 r237852: Sat Jun 30 
 18:45:27 EDT 2012 root@FBSD10:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL  amd64
 
 After a recent upgrade, I am seeing a formatting issue with top.
 
 top -SPH -s 1:
 
 last pid: 26011;  load averages:  3.61,  2.80,  1.56 up 
 0+00:23:30  19:48:46
 268 processes: 6 running, 245 sleeping, 17 waiting
 CPU 0: 22.0% user,  0.0% nice,  0.8% system,  0.8% interrupt, 76.4% idle
 CPU 16877.6ctive, 2313M Inact,  6.3M Wired, 3 0.8 Cache, 1440M65.4, 7674M 
 Free
 CPU 2: 28.3% user,  0.0% nice,  2.4% system,  0.0% interrupt, 69.3% idle
 CPU 3: 36.2% user,  0.0% nice,  1.6% system,  0.0% interrupt, 62.2% idle
 Mem: 455M Active, 2302M Inact, 3151M Wired, 3900K Cache, 1440M Buf, 7943M 
 Free
 Swap: 20G Total, 20G Free
 
 
 Seems like the entry for CPU 1 is wrong.

I also noticed this but thought it is of temporary nature. The data of CPU 1 is 
getting overwritten by the data of the memory usage.

Erich
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Re: no keyboard after booting r235646 in laptop FS Amilo D 7830

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Saturday, June 30, 2012 10:11:31 PM Matthias Apitz wrote:
 El día Saturday, June 30, 2012 a las 01:49:58PM +0700, Erich Dollansky 
 escribió:
 
  
  Can you try FreeBSD 7.4 or 8.3?
  
  It is sad to say but some times support for older hardware gets cut out for 
  whatever reason.
 
 The IT guy of my company found this laptop in the attic and because
 it has no Wifi, nobody is interested in using it anymore. As I said,
 I could make use of it as a build machine and for this it must run CURRENT
 and no older versions. I will install the USB booted system to harddisk
 and hope when booted from disk and not from USB the keyboard is working.
 
if 7.4 still runs but not anything after 8.0, it is most likely what I have 
written. Some USB hardware is not supported anymore in 8 and later.

I would install the old one just to see  You will also know wat hwardware is 
used there and how it is supported.

This might be the faster route before starting debugging something which is not 
there.

Erich
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Re: GPU_KMS still not working CURRENT X220

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Thursday, June 28, 2012 11:15:54 PM Kevin Oberman wrote:
 On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 8:45 AM, Andrey Fesenko f0and...@gmail.com wrote:
  I have lenovo thinkpad x220
 
  # uname -a
  FreeBSD bsdx220 10.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #0 r237683: Thu Jun
  28 08:41:40 MSK 2012 root@bsdx220:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MY_INTEL
  amd64

it works for me with this:

FreeBSD X220.ovitrap.com 10.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #7: Thu Jun 28 
09:09:16 WIT 2012

 
  # pciconf -lvb
  vgapci0@pci0:0:2:0: class=0x03 card=0x21da17aa chip=0x01268086
  rev=0x09 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
 device = '2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated
  Graphics Controller'
 class  = display
 subclass   = VGA
 bar   [10] = type Memory, range 64, base 0xf000, size 4194304, 
  enabled
 bar   [18] = type Prefetchable Memory, range 64, base 0xe000,
  size 268435456, enabled
 bar   [20] = type I/O Port, range 32, base 0x6000, size 64, enabled
 
  After # kldload i915kms screen is black, if # kldunload i915kms panic
 
 Don't do this. It has been clearly stated that i915kms my not be
 unloaded and that attempting to unload it WILL panic the system.
 
 Also, don't load i945kms. This WILL lock up the system with a blank screen.
 
it works for me. I use this kind of script to start X:

sudo kldload i915kms
sudo kldload acpi_call
sudo chmod 666 /dev/acpi
startx

 The modules required are autoloaded during Xorg initialization. Just
 make absolutely sure that you have the latest version of
 xf-video-intel. (If you installed a rather early version of the KMS
 code, it is possible that you have two xf-video.intel* ports in your
 tree, thought I don't expect this is the case.

This could be the real reason why it fails

But I must say that it hangs on rare occasions. It might has to do with playing 
with the mouse or the keyboard during the start-up phase of X. At least, I did 
not notice a freeze when I did not play around with them during the start of X.

Erich
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Re: Panic on current from yesterday during boot

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Wednesday 27 June 2012 13:20:10 Andriy Gapon wrote:
 on 27/06/2012 08:27 Andrey Fesenko said the following:
  On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 9:06 AM, Erich Dollansky
  erichfreebsdl...@ovitrap.com wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I am getting a panix when I boot a newly compiled system with sources 
  downloaded yesterday. The panic was still there with the sources from 
  three days ago.
 
  The panic regards /usr/src/sys/vm/uma_core/c line 2040.
 
  The machine is a Lenovo X220. I do not expect anything specific loaded yet 
  as I load the Intel KMS module manually after the system is up and running 
  on the console.
 
  
  confirm faced with the same error
  FreeBSD X220 10.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #2 r237565
 
 You haven't provided a full stack trace, but let me take a guess:
 http://article.gmane.org/gmane.os.freebsd.devel.cvs/477167

this is a direct hit.

 Perhaps this could be useful.

I assume that you do not need one then.

Anyway, What would be a save way to get a trace to a disk as I do not have a 
backup system with me?

Erich
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Re: Panic on current from yesterday during boot

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Wednesday 27 June 2012 15:42:43 Andriy Gapon wrote:
 on 27/06/2012 11:39 Erich Dollansky said the following:
  Anyway, What would be a save way to get a trace to a disk as I do not have a
  backup system with me?
 
 Assuming I understand the question correctly your options are:
 - remote console (serial/firewire/etc) from another machine

this is the problem as I do not have it here.

 - digital camera

So, this is really the only option then.

The photos I really have. Would you still need them? I do not think so after 
seeing the other post.

 - produce a crash dump (possible only after a certain point in boot sequence)

I think that this was too early.

Erich
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Re: Panic on current from yesterday during boot

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Wednesday 27 June 2012 23:20:09 Jung-uk Kim wrote:
 On 2012-06-27 07:07:40 -0400, Andriy Gapon wrote:
  on 27/06/2012 13:44 Andrey Fesenko said the following:
  On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Andrey Fesenko
  f0and...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 12:42 PM, Andriy Gapon
  a...@freebsd.org wrote:

 Committed as r237652:
 
 http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base?view=revisionrevision=237652
 
I updated my sources around midnight (GMT) and compiled them again. The system 
then booted without any problems.

Perfect!

Erich
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Panic on current from yesterday during boot

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

I am getting a panix when I boot a newly compiled system with sources 
downloaded yesterday. The panic was still there with the sources from three 
days ago.

The panic regards /usr/src/sys/vm/uma_core/c line 2040.

The machine is a Lenovo X220. I do not expect anything specific loaded yet as I 
load the Intel KMS module manually after the system is up and running on the 
console.

How could I help you there?

I would need some hand holding there as I am travelling at the moment and have 
only this machine with me without much documentation available.

Moving back to this

FreeBSD X220.ovitrap.com 10.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #4: Thu Jun 21 
14:29:15 WIT 2012

solves the problem for me.

Erich
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Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD?

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On 07 June 2012 12:58:59 Hartmann, O. wrote:
 On 06/07/12 11:17, Daniel Kalchev wrote:
  
  
  On 07.06.12 02:09, Erich wrote:
  Those minor issues are, having the recent mess in front of my eyes, a
  simple negative exaggeration. What is that price worth, if the
  system is faulting and rendered useless or partially useless?
 
  just do what was recommended in this thread: wait.
 
 ... well, I will pass this to those who fund my research. Wait. Yes ...
 the right answer.

to make them ban FreeBSD from all of their projects?
 
 
  Tell this ones to a commercial client. They will use words on you for
  which use you get a life ban on this list.
 
 Not even commercial clients ... I have the impression that the people
 who are using FreeBSD MUST be professionals in any way - or just
 adventurers. This impression can be emphazized by picking up some of the
 comments made here.
 
I am back to BSD since around ten years. I never really left Unix since I 
started with it during the last days of the Seventies. It amazes me most that 
this kind of people always have been there.

I made then some fun with them when they have been on the suppliers side.

I think they have forgotten why Unix is there in the first place.
 
  
  If you are not qualified enough to handle issues like this, you would be
  better to avoid offering your integration services to anyone. Or, of
  you dare to -- you fully deserve those people yelling at you, or worse..
  
  Those who use FreeBSD to offer integration services and are qualified do
  not whine, neither they wait. Those people do what the promised to do:
  provide the customer with the requested solution.
 
 ... in some cases this needs the deep knowledge of all ports/software
 provided and used and this is simply impossible, or at least null
 convergent probability.

It is not possible but it is also not needed. Why create a hurdle when there is 
a simple way around it?
 
 In some cases I see a dicrepancy between what is reality and what is
 predicated. If it comes to the evidence, that something has been
 mismanaged, then there is always this allmighty excuse: FreeBSD is a
 volunteer system developed by volunteers blabla. I'm also a volunteer
 using FreeBSD! And I spend a lot of time trying to help.
 
This all they say sounds always so one-sided.  As being the perfect human is 
the standard.

 But at some points this gets very frustrating! Totally corrupted ports
 (not FreeBSD itself!), and so a corrupted system, no fallback mechanism
 although the problem is there for decades by now (as stated in this thread).

Which alone makes a big joke out of these answers.

 In my case, just for instance, we/I use FreeBSD as server AND client to
 avoid loads of work having to many different OSes. We and it is definit
 use OpenLDAP as the users's housekeeping backend.
 Thunderbird is NOT working with OpenLDAP (which is, I asume, an

Ok, I do not like LDAP for 'private' reasons and as such it is not on any of 
the machines under my control. But even then, hey, you are joking?

 important piece of a modern multiuser environment and part of the power
 to serve). I personally live with this problem now for almost a year,
 since I can circumvent the crash of Thunderbird by starting Firefox
 prior to Thunderbrd and start Thunderbird while Firefox is starting.
 This behaviour is very strange and it is obviously well known to those
 who use a similar environment.

I also do not use Thunderbird as my primary e-mail client because of its 
erratic behaviour. 

 And this problem occurs on EVERY new setup I made using LDAP as the
 backend.
 
I wonder why you are still using FreeBSD then. Especially with these kind of 
comments around.

 There is a open PR, there are some hints (not working for me), there are
 some notes in the mailing list.
 
 Obviously, FreeBSd is rarely used in such an environment or is stuck
 with ancient NIS/YP setups, I do not know.

I must say, luckily, I have had to give in when it came to the company's public 
server. It uses Linux and does not have any of these issues.
 
 I only can ask the list herein - since the professionals in our
 computer center of the campus are in most cases in Linux.
 
Sad to say.
 
 Well, to come back to the subject:  Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD?
 
 I guess there are plenty of reasons as well as there are plenty of
 reasons of the opposit. But one very frustrating scaring thing is the
 arrogancy of several people here - leveling out the great help of those
 who wish to help.

When they are successful in keeping people away, there position is stronger 
then.

Anyway, I joined this thread more for the fun until I realised that it should 
be possible to put the salty finger into this big wound of FreeBSD.

Erich
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Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD?

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On 06 June 2012 9:21:22 Sean Cavanaugh wrote:
 
 Overall I see it as packages are flat stable at the cost of being out of
 date, and ports are current but not guaranteed to compile without
 intervention. The Maintainers do give a very good shot to make them stable
 but sometimes one person cannot maintain millions of lines of code and not
 make a glitch occasionally, or make it out on time when a dependency
 changes.

isn't the date of the packages the date of the last release of the branch? 
Aren't the chances high then to get a working ports tree?

You can follow the discussion about this subject for at least 10 years back. 
The result is always the same.

In parallel is the discussion why so little people are using FreeBSD.

Do you understand what I want to say?

Erich
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Re: Why Are You NOT Using FreeBSD?

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On 03 June 2012 PM 4:46:40 Jakub Lach wrote:
  just the base system is 
  the only part that needs to be unified, everything else can be 
  installed from source.
 
 You really don't know what you are talking about, do you?

the chicken and the egg

Erich
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Re: X220 and all.14.5.patch

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Sunday 06 May 2012 15:04:08 Andriy Gapon wrote:
 on 06/05/2012 03:03 Erich Dollansky said the following:
  
  On Saturday 05 May 2012 04:40:50 matt wrote:
  On 05/03/12 22:12, Artem Tuchinsky wrote:
 
  I will investigate further now.
 
 Do you try to compile i915 driver into kernel?

yes.

 Do you not have device drm in kernel config?

yes.
 
 In any case I suggest that you use i915 as a module, but make sure that you
 compile the module as a part of kernel build (e.g. via MODULES_OVERRIDE unless
 you already build all the modules).

I can try this later. A client will keep me busy for a few days now.

Erich
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Re: X220 and all.14.5.patch

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

On Sunday 06 May 2012 16:30:25 Andriy Gapon wrote:
 on 06/05/2012 12:15 Erich Dollansky said the following:
  Hi,
  
  On Sunday 06 May 2012 15:04:08 Andriy Gapon wrote:
  on 06/05/2012 03:03 Erich Dollansky said the following:
 
  On Saturday 05 May 2012 04:40:50 matt wrote:
  On 05/03/12 22:12, Artem Tuchinsky wrote:
 
  I will investigate further now.
 
  Do you try to compile i915 driver into kernel?
  
  yes.
  
  Do you not have device drm in kernel config?
  
  yes.
 
 Just a note, in case it was not obvious, all concrete drm drivers (i915,
 radeondrm, etc) require the drm driver.

yes, I know and put both into the kernel configuration.

Erich
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