Re: Sched_Ule

2003-10-09 Thread Evan Dower
I ran with SCHED_ULE for a couple days recently and had trouble beyond just 
sluggishness. When doing really intensive tasks such as buildworld or 
installworld, the computer would actually stall. The first time was 
immediately after booting single user after building the world and kernel. I 
started and installworld, and it hung there until I did a hard reset. 
Horrible timing for it, but such is life. Later (after I fixed the damage 
from the partial install) it hung when doing my buildworld, so I booted up 
on a different (SCHED_4BSD) kernel to do the buildworld (subsequently 
switching back to SCHED_4BSD). If you want any particulars about my system 
just let me know.
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From: Scott Sipe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Sched_Ule
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 00:28:59 -0400 (EDT)
Hi,

I see some posts from late Sept about people having issues with SCHED_ULE.
I just wanted to add in that I am having the exact same problems.  In
short:
Anything that seems disk intensive: bzip2 (unbzip2ing one big file makes
this happen), making world, building ports, etc makes my X environment
practically unusable.  Mouse stutters, reaction times is very slow, feels
10x more sluggish than normal.  (I'm running KDE if anyone is curious).
I rebuilt my kernel today (running yesterday's world) with SCHED_4BSD
instead, and things are much better.  System is much much more responsive.
If there's any tests I can run, or anyone I should talk to, I'd love to be
of assistance,
thanks much,
Scott
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Re: Sched_Ule

2003-10-09 Thread Evan Dower
Dual AMD Athlon MP 1900+s actually, on an Asus motherboard.

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From: Jeff Roberson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Evan Dower [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: Sched_Ule
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 10:33:39 -0400 (EDT)
On Thu, 9 Oct 2003, Evan Dower wrote:

 I ran with SCHED_ULE for a couple days recently and had trouble beyond 
just
 sluggishness. When doing really intensive tasks such as buildworld or
 installworld, the computer would actually stall. The first time was
 immediately after booting single user after building the world and 
kernel. I
 started and installworld, and it hung there until I did a hard reset.
 Horrible timing for it, but such is life. Later (after I fixed the 
damage
 from the partial install) it hung when doing my buildworld, so I booted 
up
 on a different (SCHED_4BSD) kernel to do the buildworld (subsequently
 switching back to SCHED_4BSD). If you want any particulars about my 
system
 just let me know.

Do you have P4's with hyper threading?

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 From: Scott Sipe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Sched_Ule
 Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 00:28:59 -0400 (EDT)
 
 
 Hi,
 
 I see some posts from late Sept about people having issues with 
SCHED_ULE.
 I just wanted to add in that I am having the exact same problems.  In
 short:
 
 Anything that seems disk intensive: bzip2 (unbzip2ing one big file 
makes
 this happen), making world, building ports, etc makes my X environment
 practically unusable.  Mouse stutters, reaction times is very slow, 
feels
 10x more sluggish than normal.  (I'm running KDE if anyone is curious).
 
 I rebuilt my kernel today (running yesterday's world) with SCHED_4BSD
 instead, and things are much better.  System is much much more 
responsive.
 
 If there's any tests I can run, or anyone I should talk to, I'd love to 
be
 of assistance,
 
 thanks much,
 Scott
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Re: Sched_Ule

2003-10-09 Thread Evan Dower
How many of the people experiencing SCHED_ULE related problems (primarily 
lagging) are also using nvidia-driver? I know I am, and I'm pretty sure 
Arjan is. Could there be a connection?
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From: Arjan van Leeuwen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Jeff Roberson [EMAIL PROTECTED],Sheldon Hearn 
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Subject: Re: Sched_Ule
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 23:36:48 +0200

On Thursday 09 October 2003 22:57, Jeff Roberson wrote:
 On Thu, 9 Oct 2003, Sheldon Hearn wrote:
  On (2003/10/09 00:28), Scott Sipe wrote:
   Anything that seems disk intensive: bzip2 (unbzip2ing one big file
   makes this happen), making world, building ports, etc makes my X
   environment practically unusable.  Mouse stutters, reaction times is
   very slow, feels 10x more sluggish than normal.  (I'm running KDE if
   anyone is curious).
 
  A number of us are seeing this problem, and not all of us are entry
  level end-users.  I'm using a single PIII with 1GB of RAM and maxusers
  0.  No Hyper-threading, nothing interesting in the kernel (apart from
  I686_CPU only, KTRACE and _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING).
 
  The problem (as I recall) is that Jeff hasn't received reports from
  people who can dig into the problem and have the time to do so.
 
  For example, I'm pretty sure I could at least point a finger at the
  problem if I had time.  But I'm under heavy pressure, and so the only
  solution that's feasible for me is to just switch to SCHED_4BSD and 
keep
  moving.
 
  What surprises me is that Jeff can't reproduce it.
 
  For me, the sluggish mouse problem manifests under these conditions:
 
  1) Use a USB mouse, not a PS2 mouse.

 Is this _only_ with usb?

Hi Jeff,

I have the same problem, but with a PS2 mouse. I've never tried an USB 
mouse
on this system. I've seen this behavior on at least 4 systems now myself,
fast and slow systems (my own workstation is an Athlon XP 2000+, 512MB 
RAM).
It must be possible for you to reproduce this behavior.

I've seen the lagging mouse on many occasions, always when my system was 
under
high load. It's very difficult to pinpoint though; for example, if I'm
building a port, I only notice the lagging for small periods of time during
the build (sometimes I don't see it for 5 minutes, then suddenly it lags 
for
about 3 seconds). Most of the time, it doesn't even bother me.

One of the places it _always_ happens, is when I log out of GNOME 2.4. The
background fades to a darker color, and during the fade, I experience the
mouse lag.
Can you reproduce this? Maybe you have some hints for me, some things I can
try to find out more about this problem?
Arjan

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Re: Sched_Ule

2003-10-09 Thread Evan Dower
From: Jonathan E Fosburgh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I switched back to the XFree86 nv driver earlier today and still have 
trouble.
moused is running and it is  a PS/2 mouse.

Is nvidia.ko still loaded in the kernel?
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Re: NVidia Port Problems with kernel

2003-09-03 Thread Evan Dower
I suspect you (and many others) will find these pages useful:

Current FreeBSD Problem Reports page
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr-summary.cgi
The problem you are having is listed here as ports/56157 and there are 
others relating to nvidia-driver as well (and many others related to other 
things).

FreeBSD mailing list archive search page
http://www.freebsd.org/search/search.html#mailinglists
The problem you are having has been discussed in other threads on at least 
-current and possibly other lists as well.

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From: Pau Rodriguez [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: NVidia Port Problems with kernel
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 21:17:21 +0200
Hello!
I'm a FreeBSD 5.1-CURRENT user and I use NVidia card.
While I'm building 'ports/x11/nvidia-driver' make return errors
 cd /usr/ports/x11/nvidia-driver;make

#ERRORS

/usr/ports/x11/nvidia-driver/work/NVIDIA-FreeBSD-x86-1.0-4365/src/nvidia_sysctl. 
  c: In 
function `nvidia_find_bridge':
/usr/ports/x11/nvidia-driver/work/NVIDIA-FreeBSD-x86-1.0-4365/src/nvidia_sysctl. 
  c:234: 
error: `PCIR_HEADERTYPE' undeclared (first use in this function)
/usr/ports/x11/nvidia-driver/work/NVIDIA-FreeBSD-x86-1.0-4365/src/nvidia_sysctl. 
  c:234: 
error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
/usr/ports/x11/nvidia-driver/work/NVIDIA-FreeBSD-x86-1.0-4365/src/nvidia_sysctl. 
  c:234: 
error: for each function it appears in.)



You can see full output in attrached file 'make.out'.
I know that in previous version of kernel it runs.
If is error that I made answarme. thanks!

 make.out 
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Re: Fresh CVSUP, new ATAng problems and nvidia.ko compile issues

2003-08-30 Thread Evan Dower
I filed one yesterday: ports/56157

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From: Arjan van Leeuwen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Brendon and Wendy 
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Subject: Re: Fresh CVSUP, new ATAng problems and nvidia.ko compile issues
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 16:54:58 +0200

On Saturday 30 August 2003 16:20, Brendon and Wendy wrote:
 All,

 A constant in one of the kernel header file seems to have been renamed.
 Change PCIR_HEADERTYPE to PCIR_HDRTYPE in the NVIDIA code and all will 
be
 well.

 I have tried this myself and all is well.

 Cheers,
 Brendon

Can you submit a PR for the x11/nvidia-driver port?


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Re: FreeBSD / KDE locking up solid

2003-08-29 Thread Evan Dower
You say you have a GeForce 4? Do you have nvidia-driver installed? 
Nvidia-driver makes my computer lock up like the dickens. ;-)

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From: Stone Gecko [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: FreeBSD / KDE locking up solid
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 22:08:59 -0700
Does anyone have any problems with KDE 3.1.2 or 3.1.3 running under BSD 5.1
Release?
My system randomly locks solid. No mouse/keyboard/ssh/telnet/sound
Once it locks, the only thing i can do is a hard reboot.
I went back to 4.8 and it worked fine with KDE 3.1.3.

Is there any log files or programs that i can run to find out what is 
causing
it.

Any help would be appreciated.

ps.
its a AMD 1GHz Tbird on an MSI k7t 266 pro2 board with a GF4mx440 video
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RE: smp in 5.1

2003-08-14 Thread Evan Dower
I've got a dual athlon 1900+ MP. I've run both 4.x and 5.x. On 5.x I've 
tried both schedulers (4BSD and ULE). I don't think I've ever had any 
crashes, except when I install nvidia-driver, and then it crashes all the 
time. Theoretically 5.x should be better for smp as much work has happened 
in terms of locking. I haven't done any benchmarks, but I wouldn't expect 
any dramatic improvement, as locking work in many subsystems is still 
incomplete. Many things still need GIANT. 5.x does have a bunch of other 
good stuff though, and going that route saves you from upgrading later 
through an even bigger version gap. That's my two sense, and if it sounds 
like I know what I'm talking about, it's pure coincidence ;-) Others: please 
correct me if I got anything really wrong (I tried to be vague enough to 
aviod that, but we'll see).
;-)
Evan Dower


From: Andre Guibert de Bruet [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: smp in 5.1
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 22:40:21 -0400 (EDT)
I guess I'll chime in as well... I have a Dual Athlon 2000+ MP here and
it's running like a charm with SCHED_4BSD.
Andy

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 Silicon Landmark, LLC. | http://siliconlandmark.com/
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003, derwood wrote:

 I've been running 5.1-Current since its release on a Dell Precision 410 
with
 dual P-III 500's
 No SMP problems here at all.. Its been extremely stable for me thus far.

 Darin -

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 7:10 PM
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 Subject: Re: smp in 5.1


 On Tue, Aug 12, 2003 at 08:25:38AM +1000, Andy Farkas wrote:
  On Mon, 11 Aug 2003, Eriq Lamar wrote:
 
   Is there any advantage in 5.1 over 4.8 for two amd mp's. and if so
   could someone tell what they are. I am interested in building dual
   system using mp's but not sure which version would be better.
 
  Scheduling in 5.1 is broken (sched_ule doesn't even work*).
 
  Stick with 4.8.
 
  * for me, sched_ule completely locks up my box, no ping, no keybd.
  Exact same kernel with sched_4bsd works fine.
 

 Strange.  ULE has worked fine on my UP system for
 several months and the SMP system I recently obtained
 from a co-worker hasn't panicked while running ULE.
 Can you drop into ddb and trace the problem with
 ULE on your system?

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Re: Yet another crash in FreeBSD 5.1

2003-08-02 Thread Evan Dower
I fear we may have gotten a bit off-topic.
E

From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Terry Lambert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: Yet another crash in FreeBSD 5.1
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 11:21:41 +0930
On Saturday,  2 August 2003 at 18:36:24 -0700, Terry Lambert wrote:
 Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
 The information I gave him gets him to lines of source code, instead
 of just function names with strange hexadecimal numbers that resolve
 to instruction offsets that may be specific to his compile flags,
 date of checkout of the sources from CVS, etc..

 The first step of the link above does the same thing.  But it's only
 the first step.
 by eyeballing the lines of source code in question and understanding
 the code around it well enough that you can tell *how* a pointer
 there could be NULL.  My instructions *get* him those lines of
 source.

 You obviously still haven't read the reference.  Do that first, and
 come back when you have either understood things or are having
 difficulty understanding.  But don't shoot off your mouth without
 knowing what's going on.

 I read the reference.

 How does it apply in cases like this one, where you don't have a
 vmcore file?
You don't seem to have read the reference very well.  It also asks for
other supporting information.  That's the most important thing at the
moment.  I know that because I've been there before, and I've looked
at a number of these dumps: it's almost certainly related to something
he's doing which is not normal.  You don't know that, and that's
excusable, but it's not excusable that after four or five requests,
you still haven't RTFM'd.
 The way I would approach finding this, with only:

 1) The line of code where the failure occurred
 2) The stack traceback, with no arguments
 3) The sources for the code in the stack traceback

 would be to eyeball the code in #1, and try to figure out how
 I gould get to that point with that pointer having a NULL value,
 given my apriori knowledge of the forward call graph.
You have that?

 I would examine every intermediate conditional and function call
 that could effect the value of the pointer and cause it to be NULL
 at the point in question.
Go for it.  Once I get the log files, I'll start there.

 One of the details I wish you would check is whether or not he has a
 vmcore file, or the ability to get one...
We'll address that issue when it becomes necessary.

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Re: Does linux-sun-jdk_1.4.2 work?

2003-07-22 Thread Evan Dower
I have certainly had some frustration with Java on FreeBSD, but for the most 
part it works for me. In fact, I wrote a pure Java program that only seems 
to work on FreeBSD. On Windows, it crashes inside Java's regex code, so 
there's one place where FreeBSD works better ;-)
Evan Dower


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Subject: Re: Does linux-sun-jdk_1.4.2 work?
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 16:29:57 +0200
Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Perhaps you should try working with Java 1.4.x on FreeBSD before you
 assume something about me that's highly inaccurate. I think you'll find
 very quickly that it doesn't work nicely unless the process is running
 as root.
I use it daily and have never had any trouble (except for the broken
Xalan in 1.4.1).
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Re: putting /dev/lpt in polling mode in boot time.

2003-07-20 Thread Evan Dower
I may be smoking crack, but isn't it:
bit 5 = 0001  = 0x10 ?
bit 6 = 0010  = 0x20 ?
E

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Before anyone corrects me, yes, the man page says bit 5 controls polling, 
0x20.  My question stands.



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Re: Annoucning DragonFly BSD!

2003-07-17 Thread Evan Dower
From: Julian Stacey [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Periodicaly someone masquerades as Matt Dilllon.  Those targeted
by trolls need to work extra hard to establish credibility of
poster's address, to avoid suspicion of troll at work (phone
number maybe?).  Trolls of course need to work extra hard too, to
also convince us. Maybe this time the poster is the real Matthew
Dillon, but I doubt it.
Phone numbers are easily forged. If authenticity is in question, why not PGP 
sign it?
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Re: NVidia driver stability?

2003-07-13 Thread Evan Dower
That may have done it. Now that I recompiled nvidia-driver only 
WITH_NVIDIA_HACKS, doing glxinfo several times no longer wreaks havoc. Since 
something seems to be screwy with my network driver (rtl8139) when the 
kernel is compiled without optimizations, I recompiled with them and so far 
all is well. At the moment, I have my AGP rate knocked down from 4x to 2x in 
BIOS. If all continues to go well, I'll bump it back up and report what I 
find.
E


From: Munish Chopra [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 2003-07-12 14:46 +, Evan Dower wrote:
 After following all the instructions at
 http://www.soulwax.net/nvidia/faq.shtml _very_ carefully and compiling
 nvidia-driver WITH_FREEBSD_AGP, WITH_NVIDIA_HACKS, and with 
FORCE_AGP_RATE,
 my system was dramatically slower and substantially _less_ stable. (I 
had
 to switch to another computer to write this email). Interestingly, 
whenever
 I compile the kernel without optimizations, network activity becomes 
_very_
 slow.
 E
 aka Evan Dower
 Undergraduate, Computer Science
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Did you try using the NVIDIA AGP interface?

The majority of mail I get indicates that the NVIDIA AGP stuff works
better than the FreeBSD one.
I'm not sure about your network problems, perhaps you should look at the
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RE: NVidia driver stability?

2003-07-12 Thread Evan Dower
After following all the instructions at 
http://www.soulwax.net/nvidia/faq.shtml _very_ carefully and compiling 
nvidia-driver WITH_FREEBSD_AGP, WITH_NVIDIA_HACKS, and with FORCE_AGP_RATE, 
my system was dramatically slower and substantially _less_ stable. (I had to 
switch to another computer to write this email). Interestingly, whenever I 
compile the kernel without optimizations, network activity becomes _very_ 
slow.
E
aka Evan Dower
Undergraduate, Computer Science
University of Washington

From: Will Saxon [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I just installed these drivers on my machine, which uses a Geforce4 Ti4200. 
I had 10 glxgears processes running in the background and was running 
glxinfo over and over, and while the glxgears processes were not really 
spinning very fast nothing crashed or anything like that.

Machine is running a June 27 -current with Xfree86 4.3.0. I compiled the 
nvidia-driver port with -DWITH_FREEBSD_AGP and -DWITH_NVIDIA_HACKS.

-Will
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Interest in nvidia-driver debugging on 5-*

2003-06-12 Thread Evan Dower
I am highly interested in getting nvidia-driver to work well for FBSD, and 
in particular my own computer. I do not have the expertise to hack on either 
it or the kernel (yet), but I am eager to provide debugging information. 
nvidia-driver frequently crashes my machine, so I expect that my input could 
be valuable. Is anybody interested in my assistance? Is anybody actively 
working on/with/around the nvidia-driver, or does the license make that 
infeasible?
Thanks a bundle,
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Undergraduate, Computer Science
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Re: Interest in nvidia-driver debugging on 5-*

2003-06-12 Thread Evan Dower
I was afraid that might be the case :-(


From: Munish Chopra [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 2003-06-12 11:51 +, Evan Dower wrote:
 I am highly interested in getting nvidia-driver to work well for FBSD, 
and
 in particular my own computer. I do not have the expertise to hack on
 either it or the kernel (yet), but I am eager to provide debugging
 information. nvidia-driver frequently crashes my machine, so I expect 
that
 my input could be valuable. Is anybody interested in my assistance? Is
 anybody actively working on/with/around the nvidia-driver, or does the
 license make that infeasible?
 Thanks a bundle,
 Evan Dower
 Undergraduate, Computer Science
 University of Washington


NVIDIA is handling everything to do with the driver. Expect a new
release shortly *cough*.
Until then, perhaps some of the information in the FAQ will help you:

http://www.soulwax.net/nvidia/faq.shtml

Good luck.

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Re: mozilla and mozilla-devel crash constantly withyesterday'ssources.

2003-04-12 Thread Evan Dower
Happens to me too with mozilla and galeon. Didn't happen until very 
recently. Maybe came with upgrade from p6 to p7?

$ uname -a
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Apr  1 18:34:29 PST 2003 
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My Mozilla and mozilla-devel are both crashing for no aparent reason and
without dumping core since making world yesterday.  I'm using versions
mozilla-1.3,2 and mozilla-1.4a,1 although it doesn't seem to be a mozilla
problem.
Until yesterday, I was happily using only mozilla-devel. When the problem
began yesterday morning, after make world, I compiled the mozilla release
and it did the same.  I happened to have opera-6.12.20030305 installed on
the same laptop and it works fine not that that means anything :-).
I have nothing really tangible as to the cause.  It is really strange.  Is
anyone else
seeing this or have an idea as to what I could have done to cause this to 
happen
from one day to the next?

Thanks,

ed

# uname -a
FreeBSD worldinternet.org 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #1: Fri Apr 11
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sendmail: no local mailer

2003-04-02 Thread Evan Dower
Sendmail has not been working on my system for some time now. I can't say
exactly how long, but my guess is that it broke when I upgraded to
RELENG_5_0. This is how sendmail is invoked (by default) and it's output.
# sendmail -L sm-mta -bd -q30m -ODaemonPortOptions=Addr=localhost
451 4.0.0 No local mailer defined: Bad address
554 5.0.0 QueueDirectory (Q) option must be set
The same thing happens if I change localhost to 127.0.0.1. I suspect
that the second error (554) will disappear when I get rid of the first one
(451). Does anyone know why it might be misbehaving like this?
Thanks,
Evan Dower
P.S.: relevent info to follow:
# uname -a
FreeBSD lojak.washington.edu 5.0-RELEASE-p6 FreeBSD 5.0-RELEASE-p6 #0: Wed
Mar 26 10:29:59 PST 2003
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Re: sendmail: no local mailer

2003-04-02 Thread Evan Dower
Hurray! With the addition of a make install, that worked wonderfully. I have 
no idea what was wrong with my sendmail.cf but at least now I can read the 
output from periodic.
Thanks a lot,
Evan Dower

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evantd Sendmail has not been working on my system for some time now. I
evantd can't say exactly how long, but my guess is that it broke when I
evantd upgraded to RELENG_5_0. This is how sendmail is invoked (by
evantd default) and it's output.
evantd # sendmail -L sm-mta -bd -q30m -ODaemonPortOptions=Addr=localhost
evantd 451 4.0.0 No local mailer defined: Bad address
evantd 554 5.0.0 QueueDirectory (Q) option must be set
/etc/mail/sendmail.cf is a bogus (empty?) file.  One way to fix this is:

cd /etc/mail
mv sendmail.cf sendmail.cf~bogus
make
make restart


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Re: sendmail: no local mailer

2003-04-02 Thread Evan Dower
I agree. In fact, it was. I only posted to -current after receiving no 
response for a few days (since I suspected that it might have been related 
to my upgrade to 5.0). I personally have never messed with sendmail's 
configuration because on my system it functions only as a local mailer. I 
guess that may be one reason for proposing that sendmail be moved out of the 
base system. It has all the power (and the complexity that comes with that 
power) of a full-featured mailer, yet most machines are not mail servers. 
Well, anyway, there's my two cents.
Evan Dower

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Note: This should have been posted to -questions, not -current.

Evan Dower wrote:
 Sendmail has not been working on my system for some time now. I can't 
say
 exactly how long, but my guess is that it broke when I upgraded to
 RELENG_5_0. This is how sendmail is invoked (by default) and it's 
output.

 # sendmail -L sm-mta -bd -q30m -ODaemonPortOptions=Addr=localhost
 451 4.0.0 No local mailer defined: Bad address

You are missing a local mailer.  A local mailer is defined by a line
similar to:
Mlocal, P=/usr/libexec/mail.local, F=lsDFMAw5:/|@qPSXfmnz9, 
S=EnvFromSMT
P/HdrFromL, R=EnvToL/HdrToL,
T=DNS/RFC822/SMTP,
A=mail.local -l

in /etc/mail/sendmail.cf.

Probably, you updated and failed to rebuild and install the sendmail
configuration files located in /etc/mail/.
 554 5.0.0 QueueDirectory (Q) option must be set

You are missing a line similar to:

# queue directory
O QueueDirectory=/var/spool/mqueue
in /etc/mail/sendmail.cf.  Probably this has the same root cause.

 The same thing happens if I change localhost to 127.0.0.1. I
 suspect that the second error (554) will disappear when I get rid
 of the first one (451). Does anyone know why it might be misbehaving
 like this?
Pilot error.

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Re: RELENG_5_0 v. HEAD

2003-04-01 Thread Evan Dower
Perhaps I should choose my words more wisely. The ports system will allow 
you to build it (nvidia-driver) on a recent HEAD, but not on RELENG_5_0. I 
assume that this is because some change was made that increased its 
stability. I had it installed anyway, for a while, but in the end chose 
stability over tuxracer ;-). Maybe now I can have both. I would guess that 
stability and performance have both increased in a number of areas since 5.0 
was released. As a user of an SMP system, that may affect me more than the 
average user, but as the owner of a lowly workstation (as opposed to a 
server), maybe it wouldn't be so noticeable. Of course, it has only been 
about two and a half months, but I get the impression that perhaps it has 
come along way in that short time. I guess my question, if it can be boiled 
down into a single question, is Is HEAD _usually_ faster and more stable 
than RELENG_5_0?
Thanks again,
Evan Dower, a recently admitted CS major at the University of Washington who 
would love for some nice FreeBSD developer to take him under their wing and 
gently introduce him to the world of FreeBSD development (instead of being 
an idle spectator)

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On Tue, Apr 01, 2003 at 09:42:25AM -0800, Evan Dower wrote:
 I've been tracking RELENG_5_0 pretty much since it existed, but I am
 wondering now if it would be better to track -CURRENT via HEAD instead.
 After all, with the semi-frozen status of HEAD, all knew commits should 
be
 fairly conservative and the _general_ _ trend_ should at least be toward 
a
 more stable product. I wonder if HEAD is actually a more stable product
 than RELENG_5_0.

Sometimes is, sometimes isn't.  You have to be fairly careful to
upgrade at the right time based on commit activity and mailing list
traffic.
 Certainly it would be for anyone using the nvidia-driver,
 since it is unsupported on RELENG_5_0. What are your thoughts?
It's just as unsupported on HEAD.

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5.0 i386 Live Filesystem

2003-01-27 Thread Evan Dower
I recently was installing the world when it ran out of space. I ^C'ed too 
many times and ended up with trying to start up on an incomplete world, 
really incomplete. I don't have /bin/sh, for example. Can someone point me 
toward an i386 Live Filesystem ISO so I can try to fix my mess?
Thanks a lot,
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Re: 5.0 i386 Live Filesystem

2003-01-27 Thread Evan Dower
Oh, I didn't realize. Fantastic. Thanks a lot. :-)


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On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 03:50:40PM -0800, Evan Dower wrote:
 I recently was installing the world when it ran out of space. I ^C'ed 
too
 many times and ended up with trying to start up on an incomplete world,
 really incomplete. I don't have /bin/sh, for example. Can someone point 
me
 toward an i386 Live Filesystem ISO so I can try to fix my mess?
 Thanks a lot,
 Evan Dower (and his fubar computer)

That's what the disc 2 iso is on the FTP sites.

Kris
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buildworld failure, rtld-elf, RELENG_5_0

2003-01-23 Thread Evan Dower
I'm trying to upgrade from -stable to 5, but the build failed at rtld-elf. 
One error and a whole lot of warnings. I don't know where I should start as 
I'm new to current (even though it's technically not -current). I swear I 
followed the instructions in UPGRADING. Any help would be greatly 
appreciated. Info follows. Let me know if you need to know more.
Thanks a lot,
Evan Dower

$ uname -a
FreeBSD lojak.u.washington.edu 4.7-STABLE FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE #0: Tue Jan 21 
21:58:07 PST 2003 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CUSTOM  i386

# script /root/buildworld.out env -i make buildworld
-- snip ( the whole file can be found at 
http://students.washington.edu/evantd/buildworld.out --
=== libexec/rtld-elf
cc -O -pipe -mcpu=pentiumpro -Wall -DFREEBSD_ELF 
-I/usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf/i386 -I/usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf -elf -fpic 
-DPIC   -Wformat=2 -Wno-format-extra-args -Werror  -c 
/usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf/i386/rtld_start.S
cc -O -pipe -mcpu=pentiumpro -Wall -DFREEBSD_ELF 
-I/usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf/i386 -I/usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf -elf -fpic 
-DPIC   -Wformat=2 -Wno-format-extra-args -Werror  -c 
/usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf/rtld.c
/usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf/rtld.c: In function `find_symdef':
/usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf/rtld.c:2035: syntax error at end of input
cc1: warnings being treated as errors
/usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf/rtld.c:838: warning: unused variable `hash'
/usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf/rtld.c:835: warning: unused variable `def'
/usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf/rtld.c:83: warning: `gethints' used but never 
defined
/usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf/rtld.c:84: warning: `init_dag' declared `static' 
but never defined
/usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf/rtld.c:85: warning: `init_dag1' declared `static' 
but never defined
/usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf/rtld.c:86: warning: `init_rtld' used but never 
defined
/usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf/rtld.c:87: warning: `initlist_add_neededs' 
declared `static' but never defined
/usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf/rtld.c:89: warning: `initlist_add_objects' used 
but never defined
/usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf/rtld.c:90: warning: `is_exported' declared 
`static' but never defined
/usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf/rtld.c:91: warning: `linkmap_add' used but never 
defined
/usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf/rtld.c:92: warning: `linkmap_delete' declared 
`static' but never defined
/usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf/rtld.c:93: warning: `load_needed_objects' used but 
never defined
/usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf/rtld.c:94: warning: `load_preload_objects' used 
but never defined
/usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf/rtld.c:95: warning: `load_object' declared 
`static' but never defined
/usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf/rtld.c:96: warning: `lock_check' used but never 
defined
/usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf/rtld.c:97: warning: `obj_from_addr' declared 
`static' but never defined
/usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf/rtld.c:98: warning: `objlist_call_fini' declared 
`static' but never defined
/usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf/rtld.c:99: warning: `objlist_call_init' used but 
never defined
/usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf/rtld.c:100: warning: `objlist_clear' used but 
never defined
/usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf/rtld.c:101: warning: `objlist_find' declared 
`static' but never defined
/usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf/rtld.c:102: warning: `objlist_init' used but never 
defined
/usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf/rtld.c:103: warning: `objlist_push_head' declared 
`static' but never defined
/usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf/rtld.c:104: warning: `objlist_push_tail' used but 
never defined
/usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf/rtld.c:105: warning: `objlist_remove' declared 
`static' but never defined
/usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf/rtld.c:106: warning: `objlist_remove_unref' 
declared `static' but never defined
/usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf/rtld.c:107: warning: `relocate_objects' used but 
never defined
/usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf/rtld.c:108: warning: `rtld_exit' used but never 
defined
/usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf/rtld.c:109: warning: `search_library_path' used 
but never defined
/usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf/rtld.c:110: warning: `get_program_var_addr' 
declared `static' but never defined
/usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf/rtld.c:111: warning: `set_program_var' used but 
never defined
/usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf/rtld.c:113: warning: `symlook_default' declared 
`static' but never defined
/usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf/rtld.c:115: warning: `symlook_list' declared 
`static' but never defined
/usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf/rtld.c:116: warning: `trace_loaded_objects' used 
but never defined
/usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf/rtld.c:117: warning: `unload_object' declared 
`static' but never defined
/usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf/rtld.c:118: warning: `unref_dag' declared `static' 
but never defined
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/libexec/rtld-elf.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/libexec.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.

Script done on Wed Jan 22 21:02:45 2003

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Re: buildworld failure, rtld-elf, RELENG_5_0

2003-01-23 Thread Evan Dower
An update:
CVSup'ing didn't fix the problem, but when I deleted the rtld.c and mv'd 
/etc/make.conf /etc/make.conf.hide, it stopped at 
/usr/src/contrib/amd/amd/srvr_nfs.c. So, I deleted that file, CVSup'd, and 
built again, and everything built fine. Very strange... cvsweb doesn't show 
any recent changes to either file. Any ideas on what was going on?
Thanks again,
Evan Dower

From: Evan Dower [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: buildworld failure, rtld-elf, RELENG_5_0
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 00:17:14 -0800

I'm trying to upgrade from -stable to 5, but the build failed at rtld-elf. 
One error and a whole lot of warnings. I don't know where I should start as 
I'm new to current (even though it's technically not -current). I swear I 
followed the instructions in UPGRADING. Any help would be greatly 
appreciated. Info follows. Let me know if you need to know more.
Thanks a lot,
Evan Dower

$ uname -a
FreeBSD lojak.u.washington.edu 4.7-STABLE FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE #0: Tue Jan 21 
21:58:07 PST 2003 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CUSTOM  i386

# script /root/buildworld.out env -i make buildworld
-- snip ( the whole file can be found at 
http://students.washington.edu/evantd/buildworld.out --

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