Re: [RFC] Replace gnu groff in base by heirloom doctools

2015-05-19 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 01:42:26AM +0200, Julian H. Stacey wrote: Hi Bapt current@ I think keeping a fully functionnal roff(7) toolchain part of the base system is very good on a unix. Yes, Unix has always also been a tool to get jobs done (aka PWB), as well as merely recompile more

Re: [RFC] Replace gnu groff in base by heirloom doctools

2015-05-19 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso
Baptiste Daroussin b...@freebsd.org wrote: |On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 01:42:26AM +0200, Julian H. Stacey wrote: | I think keeping a fully functionnal roff(7) toolchain part of the | base system is very good on a unix. | From what I could check I cannot find any regression when \ | migrating

Aw: Re: [RFC] Replace gnu groff in base by heirloom doctools

2015-05-19 Thread carsten . kunze
Steffen Nurpmeso sdao...@yandex.com wrote: It seems you haven't checked at all. It seems to me that e.g. mdoc(7) of n-t-r seems to require quite a bit of work in order to be at all usable. This is not completely true. It is usable, I did check it with all about 7000 manpages in the base of

Re: [RFC] Replace gnu groff in base by heirloom doctools

2015-05-19 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 02:37:22PM +0200, Steffen Nurpmeso wrote: Baptiste Daroussin b...@freebsd.org wrote: |On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 01:42:26AM +0200, Julian H. Stacey wrote: | I think keeping a fully functionnal roff(7) toolchain part of the | base system is very good on a unix. |

Re: [RFC] Replace gnu groff in base by heirloom doctools

2015-05-19 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 06:52:40PM +0200, Steffen Nurpmeso wrote: Hello, Baptiste Daroussin b...@freebsd.org wrote: |On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 02:37:22PM +0200, Steffen Nurpmeso wrote: | Baptiste Daroussin b...@freebsd.org wrote: ||On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 01:42:26AM +0200, Julian H. Stacey

Re: [RFC] Replace gnu groff in base by heirloom doctools

2015-05-19 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso
Hello, Baptiste Daroussin b...@freebsd.org wrote: |On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 02:37:22PM +0200, Steffen Nurpmeso wrote: | Baptiste Daroussin b...@freebsd.org wrote: ||On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 01:42:26AM +0200, Julian H. Stacey wrote: | || I think keeping a fully functionnal roff(7) toolchain

Re: [RFC] Replace gnu groff in base by heirloom doctools

2015-05-15 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Hi Bapt current@ I think keeping a fully functionnal roff(7) toolchain part of the base system is very good on a unix. Yes, Unix has always also been a tool to get jobs done (aka PWB), as well as merely recompile more Unix. Ditto FreeBSD. From what I could check I cannot find any

Re: [RFC] Replace gnu groff in base by heirloom doctools

2015-05-14 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 10:13:18AM +0100, David Chisnall wrote: On 14 May 2015, at 09:59, Baptiste Daroussin b...@freebsd.org wrote: On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 09:55:19AM +0100, David Chisnall wrote: On 14 May 2015, at 01:02, Baptiste Daroussin b...@freebsd.org wrote: - it is partially

Re: [RFC] Replace gnu groff in base by heirloom doctools

2015-05-14 Thread David Chisnall
On 14 May 2015, at 09:59, Baptiste Daroussin b...@freebsd.org wrote: On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 09:55:19AM +0100, David Chisnall wrote: On 14 May 2015, at 01:02, Baptiste Daroussin b...@freebsd.org wrote: - it is partially CDDL partially BSD license. We currently have a WITHOUT_CDDL knob

Re: [RFC] Replace gnu groff in base by heirloom doctools

2015-05-14 Thread David Chisnall
On 14 May 2015, at 01:02, Baptiste Daroussin b...@freebsd.org wrote: - it is partially CDDL partially BSD license. We currently have a WITHOUT_CDDL knob that some people use. If we don’t build the CDDL parts, what will break? David ___

Re: [RFC] Replace gnu groff in base by heirloom doctools

2015-05-14 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 09:55:19AM +0100, David Chisnall wrote: On 14 May 2015, at 01:02, Baptiste Daroussin b...@freebsd.org wrote: - it is partially CDDL partially BSD license. We currently have a WITHOUT_CDDL knob that some people use. If we don’t build the CDDL parts, what will

Re: [RFC] Replace gnu groff in base by heirloom doctools

2015-05-14 Thread Garrett Cooper
On May 13, 2015, at 17:02, Baptiste Daroussin b...@freebsd.org wrote: Hi, I plan to work in replacing GNU groff for FreeBSD 11.0 in base by heirloom doctools. … Hi Bapt, Do you have a list of items that require doctools [if groff isn’t present]? Thanks! -NGie signature.asc

Re: [RFC] Replace gnu groff in base by heirloom doctools

2015-05-14 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 02:31:55AM -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote: On May 13, 2015, at 17:02, Baptiste Daroussin b...@freebsd.org wrote: Hi, I plan to work in replacing GNU groff for FreeBSD 11.0 in base by heirloom doctools. … Hi Bapt, Do you have a list of items that

Re: [RFC] Replace gnu groff in base by heirloom doctools

2015-05-14 Thread David Chisnall
On 14 May 2015, at 10:24, Baptiste Daroussin b...@freebsd.org wrote: On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 10:13:18AM +0100, David Chisnall wrote: On 14 May 2015, at 09:59, Baptiste Daroussin b...@freebsd.org wrote: On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 09:55:19AM +0100, David Chisnall wrote: On 14 May 2015, at

[RFC] Replace gnu groff in base by heirloom doctools

2015-05-13 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
Hi, I plan to work in replacing GNU groff for FreeBSD 11.0 in base by heirloom doctools. This mostly concern documentation in share/docs and the fallback when mandoc(1) is not able to render a manpage. Heirloom doctools has progressed a lot recently and is now able to render correctly all the

Re: [RFC] Replace gnu groff in base by heirloom doctools

2015-05-13 Thread Chris H
On Thu, 14 May 2015 02:02:11 +0200 Baptiste Daroussin b...@freebsd.org wrote Hi, I plan to work in replacing GNU groff for FreeBSD 11.0 in base by heirloom doctools. This mostly concern documentation in share/docs and the fallback when mandoc(1) is not able to render a manpage.

Re: [RFC] Replace gnu groff in base by heirloom doctools

2015-05-13 Thread Pedro Giffuni
+1 Great idea. Pedro. ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org