On 2/22/2011 2:57 PM, Peter Jeremy wrote:
When that does come, it will probably be driven by BIOS and hardware
vendors dropping support for MBR.
MBR is not a BIOS concept. MBR is an OS thing. The BIOS does not care
or know what kind of partitioning you use, or if you partition at all.
A GPT
On Wednesday, February 23, 2011 11:15:09 am James R. Van Artsdalen wrote:
On 2/22/2011 2:57 PM, Peter Jeremy wrote:
When that does come, it will probably be driven by BIOS and hardware
vendors dropping support for MBR.
MBR is not a BIOS concept. MBR is an OS thing. The BIOS does not care
On Wed, 2011-02-23 at 11:33 -0500, John Baldwin wrote:
That is mostly true. There are some SCSI BIOSes that would examine the MBR
and infer what C/H/S geometry the OS was expecting from the MBR. The
original dedicated disk dummy MBR triggered a divide by zero in one of these
BIOS ROMs.
I
On Tue, 2011-02-22 at 01:03 -0600, Josh Paetzel wrote:
I suppose my last question is along the lines of, If adding geom_mirror
support to sysinstall was easy, why has it been 6+ years since gmirror made
it's appearance in FreeBSD and you still can't create or install to a gmirror
with
On Feb 21, 2011, at 11:03 PM, Josh Paetzel wrote:
On Monday, February 21, 2011 08:38:03 pm Devin Teske wrote:
Really, the crux of the issue is that our organization is **just now**
migrating off of FreeBSD-4 (yes, it's true... there are over 1,000
FreeBSD-4.11 machines running in
On Saturday, February 19, 2011 4:34:11 am grarpamp wrote:
Sysinstall is fine, as I'm sure any replacement will be. So I'll
just note a few things I'd like to see in any such replacement...
1 - I used install.cfg's on floppies to clone systems, a lot. Hands
on the box were needed with that.
On 02/22/11 06:45, John Baldwin wrote:
On Saturday, February 19, 2011 4:34:11 am grarpamp wrote:
Sysinstall is fine, as I'm sure any replacement will be. So I'll
just note a few things I'd like to see in any such replacement...
1 - I used install.cfg's on floppies to clone systems, a lot.
On Tuesday, February 22, 2011 11:26:33 am Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
On 02/22/11 06:45, John Baldwin wrote:
On Saturday, February 19, 2011 4:34:11 am grarpamp wrote:
Sysinstall is fine, as I'm sure any replacement will be. So I'll
just note a few things I'd like to see in any such
On 02/22/11 11:14, John Baldwin wrote:
On Tuesday, February 22, 2011 11:26:33 am Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
On 02/22/11 06:45, John Baldwin wrote:
On Saturday, February 19, 2011 4:34:11 am grarpamp wrote:
Sysinstall is fine, as I'm sure any replacement will be. So I'll
just note a few things I'd
On 2011-Feb-22 02:50:54 -0800, Devin Teske dte...@vicor.com wrote:
That's the operative word here (supports). Lord help us when that
changes to requires (that is to say, if/when the FreeBSD kernel
becomes legacy-free with respect to supporting fdisk/disklabel
partitioned disks).
When that does
On Feb 22, 2011, at 12:57 PM, Peter Jeremy wrote:
On 2011-Feb-22 02:50:54 -0800, Devin Teske dte...@vicor.com wrote:
That's the operative word here (supports). Lord help us when that
changes to requires (that is to say, if/when the FreeBSD kernel
becomes legacy-free with respect to
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 7:23 PM, Devin Teske dte...@vicor.com wrote:
On Feb 22, 2011, at 12:57 PM, Peter Jeremy wrote:
On 2011-Feb-22 02:50:54 -0800, Devin Teske dte...@vicor.com wrote:
That's the operative word here (supports). Lord help us when that
changes to requires (that is to say,
On Feb 22, 2011, at 7:41 PM, Garrett Cooper wrote:
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 7:23 PM, Devin Teske dte...@vicor.com wrote:
On Feb 22, 2011, at 12:57 PM, Peter Jeremy wrote:
On 2011-Feb-22 02:50:54 -0800, Devin Teske dte...@vicor.com wrote:
That's the operative word here (supports). Lord
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 9:26 PM, Devin Teske dte...@vicor.com wrote:
On Feb 22, 2011, at 7:41 PM, Garrett Cooper wrote:
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 7:23 PM, Devin Teske dte...@vicor.com wrote:
On Feb 22, 2011, at 12:57 PM, Peter Jeremy wrote:
On 2011-Feb-22 02:50:54 -0800, Devin Teske
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 10:41 PM, Garrett Cooper gcoo...@freebsd.orgwrote:
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 7:23 PM, Devin Teske dte...@vicor.com wrote:
On Feb 22, 2011, at 12:57 PM, Peter Jeremy wrote:
On 2011-Feb-22 02:50:54 -0800, Devin Teske dte...@vicor.com wrote:
That's the operative word
On Saturday, February 19, 2011 02:44:42 am Bruce Cran wrote:
On Saturday 19 February 2011 03:04:39 Devin Teske wrote:
There are many reasons for this, and none of them are selfish (although
it remains possible to drum-up some selfish reason, all of the reasons
behind our motivation are
On Mon, 2011-02-21 at 16:12 -0600, Josh Paetzel wrote:
pc-sysinstall has been used as the PC-BSD installer for quite a while now,
and
has done a lot of installs on a lot of different hardware platforms. I'll
wager that the compatibility of the shell command gpart is a better bet than
On Mon, 2011-02-21 at 16:12 -0600, Josh Paetzel wrote:
pc-sysinstall has been used as the PC-BSD installer for quite a while now,
and
has done a lot of installs on a lot of different hardware platforms. I'll
wager that the compatibility of the shell command gpart is a better bet than
On Feb 21, 2011, at 2:12 PM, Josh Paetzel wrote:
On Saturday, February 19, 2011 02:44:42 am Bruce Cran wrote:
On Saturday 19 February 2011 03:04:39 Devin Teske wrote:
There are many reasons for this, and none of them are selfish (although
it remains possible to drum-up some selfish reason,
On Monday, February 21, 2011 08:38:03 pm Devin Teske wrote:
Really, the crux of the issue is that our organization is **just now**
migrating off of FreeBSD-4 (yes, it's true... there are over 1,000
FreeBSD-4.11 machines running in production at this very moment spanning
the entire United
On Saturday 19 February 2011 03:04:39 Devin Teske wrote:
There are many reasons for this, and none of them are selfish (although it
remains possible to drum-up some selfish reason, all of the reasons behind
our motivation are in-fact unselfish). Truth-be-told, I welcome the
replacement of
Sysinstall is fine, as I'm sure any replacement will be. So I'll
just note a few things I'd like to see in any such replacement...
1 - I used install.cfg's on floppies to clone systems, a lot. Hands
on the box were needed with that. Operators skills were in question,
so having them use the dialog
On 19/02/2011, at 20:04, grarpamp wrote:
1 - I used install.cfg's on floppies to clone systems, a lot. Hands
on the box were needed with that. Operators skills were in question,
so having them use the dialog menus properly was a pain and often
resulted in non-zeroed disk or half built
On 01/18/11 11:38, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
This plan ensures that we have a minimum of three months of testing of
the new installer on snapshot media before the 9.0 release, which
should ensure a minimum of bugs. I would also like to point out that
there are no roads in this map that end up
On Feb 18, 2011, at 7:46 AM, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
On 01/18/11 11:38, Nathan Whitehorn wrote:
This plan ensures that we have a minimum of three months of testing of the
new installer on snapshot media before the 9.0 release, which should ensure
a minimum of bugs. I would also like to
There are many reasons for this, and none of them are selfish (although it
remains possible to drum-up some selfish reason, all of the reasons behind
our motivation are in-fact unselfish). Truth-be-told, I welcome the
replacement of sysinstall but am very wary that ANY replacement will be able
On 02/18/11 22:11, Shawn Webb wrote:
There are many reasons for this, and none of them are selfish (although it
remains possible to drum-up some selfish reason, all of the reasons behind
our motivation are in-fact unselfish). Truth-be-told, I welcome the
replacement of sysinstall but am very
After some discussion with M. Warner Losh and Josh Paetzel of iX
Systems, we've come up with the following roadmap for an installer for
9.0. Over the next month, we intend to try to adapt bsdinstall as the
front-end for the more featureful, but lacking a terminal-compatible
user interface,
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