Re: PCCARD vs GENERIC
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nate Williams writes: : So, my only comment is that if you believe that the code is stable : enough to not negatively effect desktop systems, and not too much bloat, : then have at it. Note, enabling PCCARD functionality w/out APM will be : a losing situation for many laptops, and adding APM functionality for : desktops may be a losing situation. The apm driver has been in GENERIC and PCCARD for a long time. They are both have the "disabled" keyword so that the user can enable them in userconfig. Also, apm on desktops makes more sense now than it used to, as many of the mobos now support it fairly well... Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: PCCARD vs GENERIC
PCCARD used to exist separate from GENERIC due to the zp and ze drivers not being compatible with pccard's pcic driver. These drivers were removed from the system not too long ago by phk. The reason I added PCCARD to the system was because in the old code, I didn't trust the PCCARD functionality to not negatively effect the normal code. Rather than potentially destabilize the desktop systems, I kept the PCCARD kernel seperate. The other reason is for the installation, but that's now a non-issue I believe in -current, because one can use the standard install for both desktop/laptop systems. So, my only comment is that if you believe that the code is stable enough to not negatively effect desktop systems, and not too much bloat, then have at it. Note, enabling PCCARD functionality w/out APM will be a losing situation for many laptops, and adding APM functionality for desktops may be a losing situation. Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: PCCARD vs GENERIC
: So, my only comment is that if you believe that the code is stable : enough to not negatively effect desktop systems, and not too much bloat, : then have at it. Note, enabling PCCARD functionality w/out APM will be : a losing situation for many laptops, and adding APM functionality for : desktops may be a losing situation. The apm driver has been in GENERIC and PCCARD for a long time. I know. ;) revision 1.67 date: 1996/04/22 19:40:24; author: nate; state: Exp; lines: +7 -1 - add apm to the GENERIC kernel (disabled by default), and add some comments regarding apm to LINT .. They are both have the "disabled" keyword so that the user can enable them in userconfig. Also, apm on desktops makes more sense now than it used to, as many of the mobos now support it fairly well... Except that it appears to break timekeeping on desktop machines. Again, without APM, PCCARD support may give the impression as being non-functional, since people will close the lids on the boxes and it won't work correctly. :( Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: PCCARD vs GENERIC
On Sun, 19 Dec 1999, Warner Losh wrote: 4) The xe and wi drivers are not enabled in GENERIC but are in PCCARD. No reason at all not to have them in GENERIC. I think that the 40k that we saved in removal of old cdrom devices would more than make up for the extra pcic/pccard/wi/xe devices, but I'm biased. I'd love to see the xe driver in GENERIC, however I'd also love to see it _working_, not just compiling. My recent attempts to look at the code have proven just how little I know about device drivers. I have a few of these cards Warner, and would send one (you could even send me those cards I gave you at the con and I'll send one of these in that box.. :-). -- - bill fumerola - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: PCCARD vs GENERIC
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Fumerola writes: : I'd love to see the xe driver in GENERIC, however I'd also love to see : it _working_, not just compiling. My recent attempts to look at the code : have proven just how little I know about device drivers. Think of it as an opportunity :-) : I have a few of these cards Warner, and would send one (you could even : send me those cards I gave you at the con and I'll send one of these : in that box.. :-). I think that I have cards that would be supported by xe. I don't have the time to get them working on the old pccard system. I would make time on a consulting basis, but I really want to spend most of my spare time on the newcard stuff in advance of 4.0. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: PCCARD vs GENERIC
On Sun, 19 Dec 1999, Warner Losh wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Fumerola writes: : I'd love to see the xe driver in GENERIC, however I'd also love to see : it _working_, not just compiling. My recent attempts to look at the code : have proven just how little I know about device drivers. Think of it as an opportunity :-) My timesheet for last week had 100+ hours, I don't need more work. :- I think that I have cards that would be supported by xe. I don't have the time to get them working on the old pccard system. I would make time on a consulting basis, but I really want to spend most of my spare time on the newcard stuff in advance of 4.0. Okay, I have cardbus versions of this card too, if you need those for your newcard stuff. -- - bill fumerola - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - - ph:(800) 252-2421 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: PCCARD vs GENERIC
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Fumerola writes: : Okay, I have cardbus versions of this card too, if you need those for : your newcard stuff. Through the kind and generous efforts of FreeBSD Inc (or maybe walnut creek cdrom) I have this and lots of other cards as well. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
