Re: HEADS UP: As of r233419, head should compile cleanly with clang

2012-03-24 Thread Dimitry Andric
On 2012-03-24 16:52, Super Bisquit wrote: On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Dimitry Andric d...@freebsd.org wrote: As of r233419 in head, you should now be able to build world and the GENERIC kernel using clang, and without the need to place NO_WERROR= and/or WERROR= in your src.conf file. ...

Re: Heads Up: NFS clients can now fail mount -u -o udp...

2012-01-25 Thread Craig Rodrigues
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Rick Macklem rmack...@uoguelph.ca wrote: As such, specifying udp or mntudp options in the /etc/fstab entry for / on a diskless NFS client could result in the mount -u failing. I'd suggest that udp and mntudp be avoided for this case, if you are using the

Re: Heads Up: NFS clients can now fail mount -u -o udp...

2012-01-25 Thread Michael Butler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/25/12 17:44, Craig Rodrigues wrote: If a user boots with an NFS root mount, and does not specify UDP or TCP, what is the default transport protocol used? If I user does: mount -t nfs or mount_nfs from the command-line, and does

Re: HEADS UP: set_rcvar() removed from rc.subr

2012-01-15 Thread Conrad J. Sabatier
On Sat, 14 Jan 2012 15:30:15 + Chris Rees cr...@freebsd.org wrote: On 14 January 2012 15:16, Rainer Hurling rhur...@gwdg.de wrote: On 14.01.2012 10:05 (UTC+1), Doug Barton wrote: Howdy, Per discussion in freebsd-rc@, I have removed set_rcvar() from rc.subr. The concept of

Re: HEADS UP: set_rcvar() removed from rc.subr

2012-01-15 Thread Doug Barton
On 01/15/2012 00:11, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: Chris, if you're working on fixing ports' rc files Thanks for taking a look at this. FYI, all of the rc.d scripts that are actually in the ports tree have already been fixed. The outliers at this point are scripts that are included in the

Re: HEADS UP: set_rcvar() removed from rc.subr

2012-01-15 Thread Chris Rees
On 15 January 2012 08:11, Conrad J. Sabatier conr...@cox.net wrote: On Sat, 14 Jan 2012 15:30:15 + Chris Rees cr...@freebsd.org wrote: On 14 January 2012 15:16, Rainer Hurling rhur...@gwdg.de wrote: On 14.01.2012 10:05 (UTC+1), Doug Barton wrote: Howdy, Per discussion in

Re: HEADS UP: set_rcvar() removed from rc.subr

2012-01-15 Thread Conrad J. Sabatier
On Sun, 15 Jan 2012 00:40:36 -0800 Doug Barton do...@freebsd.org wrote: On 01/15/2012 00:11, Conrad J. Sabatier wrote: Chris, if you're working on fixing ports' rc files Thanks for taking a look at this. FYI, all of the rc.d scripts that are actually in the ports tree have already been

Re: HEADS UP: set_rcvar() removed from rc.subr

2012-01-15 Thread Conrad J. Sabatier
On Sun, 15 Jan 2012 08:51:53 + Chris Rees cr...@freebsd.org wrote: [snip] Don't thank me! http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/cvs-ports/2012-January/233843.html Wow! Doug has been a busy boy recently! :-) The only ones that will cause trouble are the ones provided by upstream, but a

Re: HEADS UP: set_rcvar() removed from rc.subr

2012-01-14 Thread Denny Lin
On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 01:05:59AM -0800, Doug Barton wrote: to make the change by hand, change this: name=foo rcvar=`set_rcvar` to: name=foo rcvar=foo_enable The scripts installed by net/avahi-app still use set_rcvar() because they are included in the source. -- Denny Lin

Re: HEADS UP: set_rcvar() removed from rc.subr

2012-01-14 Thread Chris Rees
On 14 January 2012 11:11, Denny Lin dennyli...@hs.ntnu.edu.tw wrote: On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 01:05:59AM -0800, Doug Barton wrote: to make the change by hand, change this: name=foo rcvar=`set_rcvar` to: name=foo rcvar=foo_enable The scripts installed by net/avahi-app still use

Re: HEADS UP: set_rcvar() removed from rc.subr

2012-01-14 Thread Jilles Tjoelker
On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 01:05:59AM -0800, Doug Barton wrote: Per discussion in freebsd-rc@, I have removed set_rcvar() from rc.subr. The concept of set_rcvar() was nice in theory, but the forks it creates are a drag on the startup process, which is especially noticeable on slower systems, such

Re: HEADS UP: set_rcvar() removed from rc.subr

2012-01-14 Thread Rainer Hurling
On 14.01.2012 10:05 (UTC+1), Doug Barton wrote: Howdy, Per discussion in freebsd-rc@, I have removed set_rcvar() from rc.subr. The concept of set_rcvar() was nice in theory, but the forks it creates are a drag on the startup process, which is especially noticeable on slower systems, such as

Re: HEADS UP: set_rcvar() removed from rc.subr

2012-01-14 Thread Chris Rees
On 14 January 2012 15:16, Rainer Hurling rhur...@gwdg.de wrote: On 14.01.2012 10:05 (UTC+1), Doug Barton wrote: Howdy, Per discussion in freebsd-rc@, I have removed set_rcvar() from rc.subr. The concept of set_rcvar() was nice in theory, but the forks it creates are a drag on the startup

Re: HEADS UP: set_rcvar() removed from rc.subr

2012-01-14 Thread Doug Barton
On 01/14/2012 06:44, Jilles Tjoelker wrote: Why must the 2-argument form of set_rcvar die at the same time? It is used very differently and does not cause unnecessary forks. Instead, it is called in the same shell environment to define additional rc.conf variables that have defaults and are

Re: HEADS UP: set_rcvar() removed from rc.subr

2012-01-14 Thread Doug Barton
On 01/14/2012 07:16, Rainer Hurling wrote: BTW, is there any reason not to set 'rcvar=${name}_enable' in all that cases? http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-rc/2012-January/002660.html Also, as I pointed out in my commit message, using the literal value is a tiny bit faster, and every

Re: HEADS UP: set_rcvar() removed from rc.subr

2012-01-14 Thread Rainer Hurling
On 14.01.2012 22:29 (UTC+1), Doug Barton wrote: On 01/14/2012 07:16, Rainer Hurling wrote: BTW, is there any reason not to set 'rcvar=${name}_enable' in all that cases? http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-rc/2012-January/002660.html Also, as I pointed out in my commit message, using

Re: Heads up: New C++ stack

2011-12-18 Thread Jan Beich
David Chisnall thera...@freebsd.org writes: [...] libcxxrt and libc++ are now in contrib and building with the base system, but are not used by anything (and are only built if you set WITH_LIBCPLUSPLUS=yes when building world, not by default). If you want to test some code with the new

Re: Heads up: New C++ stack

2011-11-27 Thread David Chisnall
On 26 Nov 2011, at 23:09, Niclas Zeising wrote: This is great news! Thank you very much for undertaking this work. Just a question, is there a wiki page with these instructions, or a wiki page related to this work where these instructions can be added? If they're not on the wiki, I can do

Re: Heads up: New C++ stack

2011-11-27 Thread C. P. Ghost
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 1:58 PM, David Chisnall thera...@freebsd.org wrote: On 26 Nov 2011, at 23:09, Niclas Zeising wrote: This is great news! Thank you very much for undertaking this work.  Just a question, is there a wiki page with these instructions, or a wiki page related to this work

Re: Heads up: New C++ stack

2011-11-27 Thread O. Hartmann
Am 11/27/11 15:14, schrieb C. P. Ghost: On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 1:58 PM, David Chisnall thera...@freebsd.org wrote: On 26 Nov 2011, at 23:09, Niclas Zeising wrote: This is great news! Thank you very much for undertaking this work. Just a question, is there a wiki page with these

Re: Heads up: New C++ stack

2011-11-27 Thread David Chisnall
On 27 Nov 2011, at 15:26, O. Hartmann wrote: Why is the knob WITH_LIBCPLUSPLUS=yes located in /etc/make.conf and not in /etc/src.conf? Sorry, it is in src.conf, I was thinking about enabling clang. Or possibly not thinking at all. It's Sunday, so thinking is optional...

Re: Heads up: New C++ stack

2011-11-27 Thread O. Hartmann
Am 11/27/11 16:54, schrieb David Chisnall: On 27 Nov 2011, at 15:26, O. Hartmann wrote: Why is the knob WITH_LIBCPLUSPLUS=yes located in /etc/make.conf and not in /etc/src.conf? Sorry, it is in src.conf, I was thinking about enabling clang. Or possibly not thinking at all. It's

Re: Heads up: New C++ stack

2011-11-26 Thread Niclas Zeising
On 2011-11-26 21:59, David Chisnall wrote: Hi, I've just imported libc++[1] and libcxxrt[2] to head. libc++ is UUIC licensed, libcxxrt is 2-clause BSDL. The former implements the C++ standard template library, and provides all of the programmer-visible parts. The latter provides an

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-29 Thread Jean-Sébastien Pédron
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 28.09.2011 21:32, Hartmann, O. wrote: floating like a dead man in the water. I suspect the conversters/libiconv broke something, since it claims it has installed libiconv.so.3, but there is never such a shared object installed! Here's what I

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-28 Thread Hartmann, O.
On 09/28/11 15:47, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Eitan Adler li...@eitanadler.com wrote: 2011/9/27 O. Hartmann ohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.de: Now I understand why some OS vendors have choosen the latin 10 'X' for their tenth version of their operating system ... FreeBSD XP anyone? Are you sure

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-28 Thread perryh
Eitan Adler li...@eitanadler.com wrote: 2011/9/27 O. Hartmann ohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.de: Now I understand why some OS vendors have choosen the latin 10 'X' for their tenth version of their operating system ... FreeBSD XP anyone? Are you sure there's a sufficient window of opportunity?

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-28 Thread Hartmann, O.
On 09/28/11 09:26, Hartmann, O. wrote: On 09/28/11 15:47, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Eitan Adler li...@eitanadler.com wrote: 2011/9/27 O. Hartmann ohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.de: Now I understand why some OS vendors have choosen the latin 10 'X' for their tenth version of their operating

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-28 Thread Garrett Cooper
On Sep 28, 2011, at 10:29 AM, Hartmann, O. wrote: On 09/28/11 09:26, Hartmann, O. wrote: On 09/28/11 15:47, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Eitan Adler li...@eitanadler.com wrote: 2011/9/27 O. Hartmann ohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.de: Now I understand why some OS vendors have choosen the latin

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-28 Thread h h
Hartmann, O. ohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.de writes: On 09/28/11 09:26, Hartmann, O. wrote: On 09/28/11 15:47, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Eitan Adler li...@eitanadler.com wrote: 2011/9/27 O. Hartmann ohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.de: Now I understand why some OS vendors have choosen the latin 10

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-28 Thread Hartmann, O.
On 09/28/11 20:20, h h wrote: Hartmann, O. ohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.de writes: On 09/28/11 09:26, Hartmann, O. wrote: On 09/28/11 15:47, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Eitan Adler li...@eitanadler.com wrote: 2011/9/27 O. Hartmann ohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.de: Now I understand why some OS

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-28 Thread Garrett Cooper
On Sep 28, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Hartmann, O. wrote: On 09/28/11 20:20, h h wrote: Hartmann, O. ohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.de writes: On 09/28/11 09:26, Hartmann, O. wrote: On 09/28/11 15:47, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Eitan Adler li...@eitanadler.com wrote: 2011/9/27 O. Hartmann

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-28 Thread Hartmann, O.
On 09/28/11 20:41, Garrett Cooper wrote: On Sep 28, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Hartmann, O. wrote: On 09/28/11 20:20, h h wrote: Hartmann, O. ohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.de writes: On 09/28/11 09:26, Hartmann, O. wrote: On 09/28/11 15:47, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Eitan Adler li...@eitanadler.com

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-28 Thread Hartmann, O.
On 09/28/11 20:56, Hartmann, O. wrote: On 09/28/11 20:41, Garrett Cooper wrote: On Sep 28, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Hartmann, O. wrote: On 09/28/11 20:20, h h wrote: Hartmann, O. ohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.de writes: On 09/28/11 09:26, Hartmann, O. wrote: On 09/28/11 15:47, per...@pluto.rain.com

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-28 Thread Matt
On 09/28/11 12:16, Hartmann, O. wrote: On 09/28/11 20:56, Hartmann, O. wrote: On 09/28/11 20:41, Garrett Cooper wrote: On Sep 28, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Hartmann, O. wrote: On 09/28/11 20:20, h h wrote: Hartmann, O.ohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.de writes: On 09/28/11 09:26, Hartmann, O. wrote:

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-28 Thread Hartmann, O.
On 09/28/11 21:16, Hartmann, O. wrote: On 09/28/11 20:56, Hartmann, O. wrote: On 09/28/11 20:41, Garrett Cooper wrote: On Sep 28, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Hartmann, O. wrote: On 09/28/11 20:20, h h wrote: Hartmann, O. ohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.de writes: On 09/28/11 09:26, Hartmann, O. wrote:

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-28 Thread Hartmann, O.
On 09/28/11 21:30, Matt wrote: On 09/28/11 12:16, Hartmann, O. wrote: On 09/28/11 20:56, Hartmann, O. wrote: On 09/28/11 20:41, Garrett Cooper wrote: On Sep 28, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Hartmann, O. wrote: On 09/28/11 20:20, h h wrote: Hartmann, O.ohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.de writes: On

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-28 Thread Doug Barton
On 09/28/2011 12:39, Hartmann, O. wrote: The mess started to happen when I tried to repair a non CLANG compiling port math/gotoblas with portmaster -vf amth/gotoblas. Since this build binutils and even gettext and libiconv, I guess they got broken. Last I saw was a successful installation

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-28 Thread Beech Rintoul
On Wednesday 28 September 2011 12:18:47 Doug Barton wrote: On 09/28/2011 12:39, Hartmann, O. wrote: The mess started to happen when I tried to repair a non CLANG compiling port math/gotoblas with portmaster -vf amth/gotoblas. Since this build binutils and even gettext and libiconv, I guess

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-28 Thread Doug Barton
On 09/28/2011 13:45, Beech Rintoul wrote: On Wednesday 28 September 2011 12:18:47 Doug Barton wrote: On 09/28/2011 12:39, Hartmann, O. wrote: The mess started to happen when I tried to repair a non CLANG compiling port math/gotoblas with portmaster -vf amth/gotoblas. Since this build binutils

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-28 Thread Beech Rintoul
On Wednesday 28 September 2011 12:47:50 Doug Barton wrote: On 09/28/2011 13:45, Beech Rintoul wrote: On Wednesday 28 September 2011 12:18:47 Doug Barton wrote: On 09/28/2011 12:39, Hartmann, O. wrote: The mess started to happen when I tried to repair a non CLANG compiling port

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-28 Thread Garrett Cooper
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Beech Rintoul be...@freebsd.org wrote: On Wednesday 28 September 2011 12:18:47 Doug Barton wrote: On 09/28/2011 12:39, Hartmann, O. wrote: The mess started to happen when I tried to repair a non CLANG compiling port math/gotoblas with portmaster -vf

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-28 Thread Beech Rintoul
On Wednesday 28 September 2011 12:53:23 Beech Rintoul wrote: On Wednesday 28 September 2011 12:47:50 Doug Barton wrote: On 09/28/2011 13:45, Beech Rintoul wrote: On Wednesday 28 September 2011 12:18:47 Doug Barton wrote: On 09/28/2011 12:39, Hartmann, O. wrote: The mess started to

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-28 Thread h h
Garrett Cooper yaneg...@gmail.com writes: So if I change /usr/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh to something like vers 9.9 I'm not going to shoot myself in the foot if I try and update? I would really like to avoid downgrading this box.I've altready been bitten once today and had to build packages

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-28 Thread Hartmann, O.
On 09/28/11 22:18, Doug Barton wrote: On 09/28/2011 12:39, Hartmann, O. wrote: The mess started to happen when I tried to repair a non CLANG compiling port math/gotoblas with portmaster -vf amth/gotoblas. Since this build binutils and even gettext and libiconv, I guess they got broken. Last I

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-28 Thread Matt
On 09/28/11 15:41, Hartmann, O. wrote: On 09/28/11 22:18, Doug Barton wrote: On 09/28/2011 12:39, Hartmann, O. wrote: The mess started to happen when I tried to repair a non CLANG compiling port math/gotoblas with portmaster -vf amth/gotoblas. Since this build binutils and even gettext and

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-28 Thread Garrett Cooper
On Sep 28, 2011, at 4:36 PM, Matt wrote: On 09/28/11 15:41, Hartmann, O. wrote: On 09/28/11 22:18, Doug Barton wrote: On 09/28/2011 12:39, Hartmann, O. wrote: The mess started to happen when I tried to repair a non CLANG compiling port math/gotoblas with portmaster -vf amth/gotoblas. Since

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-27 Thread Ade Lovett
It just means that folks didn't plan ahead and didn't think up proper contingency plans. First off, apologies to Garrett, I'm not picking on you directly, but I kinda knew this would come up. The undeniable fact is that configure scripts in general have chosen to do things a certain way.

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-27 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On 27/09/2011, at 13:33, Ade Lovett wrote: That is to say, until 9.0-R happens, and for some considerable period afterwards, ya'll can pretty much expect ports/ to be non-functional on HEAD. PRs mentioning this will be gleefully closed referencing this message. I imagine you can work around

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-27 Thread h h
Kevin Oberman kob6...@gmail.com writes: On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 9:03 PM, Ade Lovett a...@freebsd.org wrote: With the advent of the conversion of HEAD to 10.0-CURRENT and, as to be expected, ports/ is going to be essentially unusable for a while. The issue stems from configure scripts (to

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-27 Thread Garrett Cooper
On Tue, 27 Sep 2011, h h wrote: Kevin Oberman kob6...@gmail.com writes: On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 9:03 PM, Ade Lovett a...@freebsd.org wrote: With the advent of the conversion of HEAD to 10.0-CURRENT and, as to be expected, ports/ is going to be essentially unusable for a while. The issue

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-27 Thread O. Hartmann
On 09/27/11 08:35, h h wrote: Kevin Obermankob6...@gmail.com writes: On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 9:03 PM, Ade Lovetta...@freebsd.org wrote: With the advent of the conversion of HEAD to 10.0-CURRENT and, as to be expected, ports/ is going to be essentially unusable for a while. The issue stems

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-27 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 10:28:49AM +0200, O. Hartmann wrote: On 09/27/11 08:35, h h wrote: Kevin Obermankob6...@gmail.com writes: On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 9:03 PM, Ade Lovetta...@freebsd.org wrote: With the advent of the conversion of HEAD to 10.0-CURRENT and, as to be expected, ports/

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-27 Thread Eduardo Morras
At 11:18 27/09/2011, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: Now I understand why some OS vendors have choosen the latin 10 'X' for their tenth version of their operating system ... At least there will be a long rest after the move to 10 is complete.. until FreeBSD 100. Or move to hexadecimal $ export

outside the box (Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT)

2011-09-27 Thread perryh
Ade Lovett a...@freebsd.org wrote: The undeniable fact is that configure scripts in general have chosen to do things a certain way. Unfortunately for us (us being FreeBSD), we have now broken these conceptions by moving to a dual-digit major release. I don't suppose REVISION=A.1 i.e.

Re: outside the box (Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT)

2011-09-27 Thread O. Hartmann
On 09/27/11 16:46, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Ade Lovetta...@freebsd.org wrote: The undeniable fact is that configure scripts in general have chosen to do things a certain way. Unfortunately for us (us being FreeBSD), we have now broken these conceptions by moving to a dual-digit major

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-27 Thread krad
On 27 September 2011 10:18, Anton Shterenlikht me...@bristol.ac.uk wrote: On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 10:28:49AM +0200, O. Hartmann wrote: On 09/27/11 08:35, h h wrote: Kevin Obermankob6...@gmail.com writes: On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 9:03 PM, Ade Lovetta...@freebsd.org wrote: With the

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-27 Thread h h
Eduardo Morras nec...@retena.com writes: At 11:18 27/09/2011, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: Now I understand why some OS vendors have choosen the latin 10 'X' for their tenth version of their operating system ... At least there will be a long rest after the move to 10 is complete.. until

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-27 Thread Robert Huff
krad writes: we can leave that to our grand children to figure out though 8) Wasn't that what people said about two-digit years? Robert Huff ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-27 Thread Adrian Chadd
On 27 September 2011 20:22, Robert Huff roberth...@rcn.com wrote: krad writes:  we can leave that to our grand children to figure out though 8)        Wasn't that what people said about two-digit years? Our children will be dealing with Y2038. :-) Adrian

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-27 Thread Eitan Adler
2011/9/27 O. Hartmann ohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.de: Now I understand why some OS vendors have choosen the latin 10 'X' for their tenth version of their operating system ... FreeBSD XP anyone? ___ freebsd-po...@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-27 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 08:22:54AM -0400, Robert Huff wrote: krad writes: we can leave that to our grand children to figure out though 8) Wasn't that what people said about two-digit years? Not quite. There they mostly said No way that this program will still be in use when

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-27 Thread Doug Rabson
On 27 September 2011 13:57, Adrian Chadd adr...@freebsd.org wrote: On 27 September 2011 20:22, Robert Huff roberth...@rcn.com wrote: krad writes: we can leave that to our grand children to figure out though 8) Wasn't that what people said about two-digit years? Our children

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-27 Thread Robert Huff
Adrian Chadd writes:  we can leave that to our grand children to figure out though 8)        Wasn't that what people said about two-digit years? Our children will be dealing with Y2038. :-) Statistically, some of us will. Robert

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-27 Thread Matthew D. Fuller
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 09:36:17AM -0400 I heard the voice of Robert Huff, and lo! it spake thus: Adrian Chadd writes: Our children will be dealing with Y2038. :-) Statistically, some of us will. Actually, I had to deal with it just last week... -- Matthew Fuller (MF4839) |

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-27 Thread Hartmann, O.
On 09/27/11 16:27, Matthew D. Fuller wrote: On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 09:36:17AM -0400 I heard the voice of Robert Huff, and lo! it spake thus: Adrian Chadd writes: Our children will be dealing with Y2038. :-) Statistically, some of us will. Actually, I had to deal with it just last week...

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-27 Thread Chris Rees
On 27 September 2011 10:18, Anton Shterenlikht me...@bristol.ac.uk wrote: On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 10:28:49AM +0200, O. Hartmann wrote: On 09/27/11 08:35, h h wrote: Kevin Obermankob6...@gmail.com  writes: On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 9:03 PM, Ade Lovetta...@freebsd.org  wrote: With the advent

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-27 Thread Brandon Gooch
On Sep 27, 2011 10:04 AM, Chris Rees cr...@freebsd.org wrote: On 27 September 2011 10:18, Anton Shterenlikht me...@bristol.ac.uk wrote: On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 10:28:49AM +0200, O. Hartmann wrote: On 09/27/11 08:35, h h wrote: Kevin Obermankob6...@gmail.com writes: On Mon, Sep 26,

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-27 Thread Gleb Kurtsou
On (26/09/2011 23:03), Ade Lovett wrote: With the advent of the conversion of HEAD to 10.0-CURRENT and, as to be expected, ports/ is going to be essentially unusable for a while. The issue stems from configure scripts (to choose something completely at random) assuming that FreeBSD would

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-27 Thread Vlad Galu
On Sep 27, 2011, at 8:50 PM, Gleb Kurtsou wrote: On (26/09/2011 23:03), Ade Lovett wrote: With the advent of the conversion of HEAD to 10.0-CURRENT and, as to be expected, ports/ is going to be essentially unusable for a while. The issue stems from configure scripts (to choose something

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-27 Thread Chuck Swiger
Hi-- On Sep 27, 2011, at 11:50 AM, Gleb Kurtsou wrote: It's more exciting than that. FreeBSD = 10 is already seized by Apple :) http://www.google.com/codesearch#search/q=__FreeBSD__%5CW%2B10type=cs MacOS X doesn't define __FreeBSD__ either in CPP macros or the system headers: % touch foo.h;

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-27 Thread Michael Butler
On 09/27/11 02:37, Daniel O'Connor wrote: On 27/09/2011, at 13:33, Ade Lovett wrote: That is to say, until 9.0-R happens, and for some considerable period afterwards, ya'll can pretty much expect ports/ to be non-functional on HEAD. PRs mentioning this will be gleefully closed referencing

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-27 Thread h h
Michael Butler i...@protected-networks.net writes: On 09/27/11 02:37, Daniel O'Connor wrote: On 27/09/2011, at 13:33, Ade Lovett wrote: That is to say, until 9.0-R happens, and for some considerable period afterwards, ya'll can pretty much expect ports/ to be non-functional on HEAD. PRs

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-26 Thread Kevin Oberman
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 9:03 PM, Ade Lovett a...@freebsd.org wrote: With the advent of the conversion of HEAD to 10.0-CURRENT and, as to be expected, ports/ is going to be essentially unusable for a while. The issue stems from configure scripts (to choose something completely at random)

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-26 Thread Garrett Cooper
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 9:56 PM, Kevin Oberman kob6...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 9:03 PM, Ade Lovett a...@freebsd.org wrote: With the advent of the conversion of HEAD to 10.0-CURRENT and, as to be expected, ports/ is going to be essentially unusable for a while. The issue stems

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-26 Thread Kevin Oberman
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 10:01 PM, Garrett Cooper yaneg...@gmail.com wrote: It's not the FreeBSD dev's fault. Unfortunately the autotools folks were microoptimizing and didn't consider that the future would come sooner than it actually did. Garrett, First, I'm not complaining or criticizing

Re: HEADS UP: ports/ and 10.0-CURRENT

2011-09-26 Thread Garrett Cooper
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 10:15 PM, Kevin Oberman kob6...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 10:01 PM, Garrett Cooper yaneg...@gmail.com wrote: It's not the FreeBSD dev's fault. Unfortunately the autotools folks were microoptimizing and didn't consider that the future would come sooner

Re: HEADS UP: BIND 9.8 imported to HEAD

2011-07-16 Thread Niclas Zeising
On 2011-07-16 13:55, Doug Barton wrote: Howdy, I wanted to let everyone know that BIND 9.8.0-P4 has just been imported to 9-current, and will be part of the 9.0-RELEASE. The 9.8 branch has many nice new features vs. 9.6.x, especially in the area of DNSSEC. You can read more about the new

RE: Heads Up: default NFS server changing to the new one

2011-06-13 Thread Chris Forgeron
From: Rick Macklem Well, I doubt you'll find much difference performance wise. An NFS server can be looked as a protocol translator, converting the NFS RPCs into VFS/VOP calls. Performance is largely defined by how well the network stack and/or file system perform. When you set up a server,

Re: Heads Up: default NFS server changing to the new one

2011-06-06 Thread Rick Macklem
Chris Forgeron wrote: [stuff snipped] I hope to do a speed test comparison between new and old NFS servers this weekend - At this stage, my feeling is that the new NFS server is at least as fast. I suspect tests will show it to be faster (at least the code looks faster. :-) ). Well, I

Re: [HEADS UP] color and page width support in man(1)

2011-06-04 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 05:54:49AM +0400, Andrey Chernov wrote: On Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 02:48:59PM +, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: On a freshly installed -CURRENT, to view a colorized manpage in color and in full terminal width, try this: env MANCOLOR=yes MANWIDTH=tty man grotty

RE: Heads Up: default NFS server changing to the new one

2011-06-03 Thread Chris Forgeron
BTW, I've been pounding on the new NFS server with a few test VM's from my ESX cluster for the last 2 weeks, 24/7. Everything looks solid, no panics, no errors, no corruption. Memory usage is staying stable, so I haven't found any leaks. I'm using IOMETER to move a few TB of randomized data a

Re: [HEADS UP] color and page width support in man(1)

2011-06-03 Thread Andrey Chernov
On Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 02:48:59PM +, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: On a freshly installed -CURRENT, to view a colorized manpage in color and in full terminal width, try this: env MANCOLOR=yes MANWIDTH=tty man grotty SGR presence can be easily autodetected analyzing termcap capibilities

Re: Heads up: default nfs client switched to new one

2011-04-29 Thread Boris Samorodov
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 13:59:49 -0400 (EDT) Rick Macklem wrote: Hopefully, you won't need to do anything to keep things working and this won't cause you grief, rick I've updated my tiny home network (host + two diskless clients). No problems so far. Great work, thanks! -- WBR, Boris Samorodov

Re: Heads up: default nfs client switched to new one

2011-04-29 Thread O. Hartmann
On 04/29/11 11:00, Boris Samorodov wrote: On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 13:59:49 -0400 (EDT) Rick Macklem wrote: Hopefully, you won't need to do anything to keep things working and this won't cause you grief, rick I've updated my tiny home network (host + two diskless clients). No problems so far.

Re: Heads up: default nfs client switched to new one

2011-04-28 Thread Rick Macklem
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 07:39:17PM -0400, Rick Macklem wrote: Hi, Is there any impact on /usr/sbin/amd? I'll admit I haven't tested it (I've never used the FreeBSD amd). I will do so once I figure out how to set it up, but I'm hoping others will report any problems. If you

Re: Heads up: default nfs client switched to new one

2011-04-27 Thread Craig Rodrigues
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 01:59:49PM -0400, Rick Macklem wrote: The commit r221124 switches the default NFS client to the new one in head. The fstype newnfs is now nfs and the regular/old NFS client is now fstype oldnfs. As such, mount -t nfs ... will use the new client. Hi, Is there any impact

Re: Heads up: default nfs client switched to new one

2011-04-27 Thread Rick Macklem
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 01:59:49PM -0400, Rick Macklem wrote: The commit r221124 switches the default NFS client to the new one in head. The fstype newnfs is now nfs and the regular/old NFS client is now fstype oldnfs. As such, mount -t nfs ... will use the new client. Hi, Is

Re: Heads up: default nfs client switched to new one

2011-04-27 Thread Craig Rodrigues
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 07:39:17PM -0400, Rick Macklem wrote: Hi, Is there any impact on /usr/sbin/amd? I'll admit I haven't tested it (I've never used the FreeBSD amd). I will do so once I figure out how to set it up, but I'm hoping others will report any problems. If you can test

Re: Heads Up: default NFS server changing to the new one

2011-04-27 Thread Craig Rodrigues
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 09:26:05AM -0400, John Baldwin wrote: Actually, I think we should switch GENERIC in HEAD to the new client and kernel very soon. The goal is to get current users testing the new client and server so they can uncover any bugs. If problems crop up during the testing

Re: Heads Up: default NFS server changing to the new one

2011-04-26 Thread John Baldwin
On Sunday, April 24, 2011 3:12:13 pm Rick Macklem wrote: On 04/24/11 02:00, Rick Macklem wrote: There will soon be a commit to head that will change the default NFS server to the new one that was called the experimental NFS server (but no longer experimental). After this commit, you

Re: Heads up: was Re: error building kernel: nfs_clvfsops.o: In function `nfs_mount':, nfs_clvfsops.c:(.text+0x1638): undefined reference to `nfs_diskless_valid'

2011-04-26 Thread O. Hartmann
On 04/26/11 15:54, Rick Macklem wrote: Since today's source (FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT/amd64 (source is: Revision: 221060) update I get the follwoing error while building the kernel (options NFSD/options NFSCL instead of options NFSSERVER/options NFSCLIENT): cc -c -O2 -frename-registers -pipe

Re: Heads Up: default NFS server changing to the new one

2011-04-26 Thread Rick Macklem
Actually, I think we should switch GENERIC in HEAD to the new client and kernel very soon. The goal is to get current users testing the new client and server so they can uncover any bugs. If problems crop up during the testing that can't be resolved, we can always revert to the older

Re: Heads Up: default NFS server changing to the new one

2011-04-24 Thread O. Hartmann
On 04/24/11 02:00, Rick Macklem wrote: There will soon be a commit to head that will change the default NFS server to the new one that was called the experimental NFS server (but no longer experimental). After this commit, you must use -o on both mountd and nfsd to force the system to use the

Re: Heads Up: default NFS server changing to the new one

2011-04-24 Thread Rick Macklem
On 04/24/11 02:00, Rick Macklem wrote: There will soon be a commit to head that will change the default NFS server to the new one that was called the experimental NFS server (but no longer experimental). After this commit, you must use -o on both mountd and nfsd to force the system to

Re: Heads up - please recompile ifconfig if you're using wireless

2011-04-22 Thread Sevan / Venture37
On Friday, 22 April 2011, Adrian Chadd adr...@freebsd.org wrote: Hm, I'll revert this change for now. Sorry! Could you post a diff of your reverted change, I currently have no connectivity to be able to update src. Sevan ___

Re: Heads up - please recompile ifconfig if you're using wireless

2011-04-22 Thread Sevan / Venture37
On 22 April 2011 15:20, Sevan / Venture37 ventur...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, 22 April 2011, Adrian Chadd adr...@freebsd.org wrote: Hm, I'll revert this change for now. Sorry! Could you post a diff of your reverted change, I currently have no connectivity to be able to update src. or I

Re: Heads up - please recompile ifconfig if you're using wireless

2011-04-21 Thread Sevan / Venture37
On 21 April 2011 06:19, Adrian Chadd adrian.ch...@gmail.com wrote: It's possible, but none of the current drivers in -head implement MIMO and the data wasn't actually filled out in net80211, so it's highly unlikely it was being used. The rt2860/70 driver was, attempting to compile the drive

Re: Heads up - please recompile ifconfig if you're using wireless

2011-04-21 Thread Adrian Chadd
Hm, I'll revert this change for now. Sorry! Adrian On 21 April 2011 23:40, Sevan / Venture37 ventur...@gmail.com wrote: On 21 April 2011 06:19, Adrian Chadd adrian.ch...@gmail.com wrote: It's possible, but none of the current drivers in -head implement MIMO and the data wasn't actually

Re: Heads up - please recompile ifconfig if you're using wireless

2011-04-20 Thread Arnaud Lacombe
Hi, On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 12:21 AM, Adrian Chadd adrian.ch...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, If you're using wireless on -HEAD and using an older base w/ newer kernels, you may wish to recompile ifconfig. I've changed the binary ABI used for MIMO statistics (which nothing actually exports yet) but

Re: Heads up - please recompile ifconfig if you're using wireless

2011-04-20 Thread Adrian Chadd
It's possible, but none of the current drivers in -head implement MIMO and the data wasn't actually filled out in net80211, so it's highly unlikely it was being used. Adrian On 21 April 2011 13:07, Arnaud Lacombe lacom...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 12:21 AM, Adrian Chadd

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