On Sun, 10 Apr 2016 07:16:56 -0700
Cy Schubert wrote:
> In message <20160409105444.7020f2f1.ohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.de>, "O.
> Hartmann"
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Can you try 'ifconfig wlan0 promisc' instead and see if that helps?
-a
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I have been trying to capture a packet trace for the breaking SSH
and while not a statistically rigid conclusion, it doesnt seem
to happen when I run a tcpdump on wlan0.
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In message <20160409105444.7020f2f1.ohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.de>, "O.
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> Am Mon, 04 Apr 2016 23:46:08 -0700
> Cy Schubert schrieb:
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> > In message <20
Am Mon, 04 Apr 2016 23:46:08 -0700
Cy Schubert schrieb:
> In message <20160405082047.670d7...@freyja.zeit4.iv.bundesimmobilien.de>,
> "O. H
> artmann" writes:
> > On Sat, 02 Apr 2016 16:14:57 -0700
> > Cy Schubert wrote:
> >
> > > In message <20160402231955.41b05526.ohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.
In message <20160405092712.131ee...@freyja.zeit4.iv.bundesimmobilien.de>,
"O. H
artmann" writes:
> On Mon, 04 Apr 2016 23:46:08 -0700
> Cy Schubert wrote:
>
> > In message <20160405082047.670d7...@freyja.zeit4.iv.bundesimmobilien.de>,
> > "O. H
> > artmann" writes:
> > > On Sat, 02 Apr 2016 16:
On Mon, 04 Apr 2016 23:46:08 -0700
Cy Schubert wrote:
> In message <20160405082047.670d7...@freyja.zeit4.iv.bundesimmobilien.de>,
> "O. H
> artmann" writes:
> > On Sat, 02 Apr 2016 16:14:57 -0700
> > Cy Schubert wrote:
> >
> > > In message <20160402231955.41b05526.ohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.de
In message <20160405082047.670d7...@freyja.zeit4.iv.bundesimmobilien.de>,
"O. H
artmann" writes:
> On Sat, 02 Apr 2016 16:14:57 -0700
> Cy Schubert wrote:
>
> > In message <20160402231955.41b05526.ohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.de>, "O.
> > Hartmann"
> > writes:
> > > --Sig_/eJJPtbrEuK1nN2zIpc7BmVr
On Sat, 02 Apr 2016 16:14:57 -0700
Cy Schubert wrote:
> In message <20160402231955.41b05526.ohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.de>, "O.
> Hartmann"
> writes:
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> > Am Sat,
In message <20160402113910.14de7eaf.ohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.de>, "O.
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> Am Sat, 2 Apr 2016 10:55:03 +0200
> "O. Hartmann" schrieb:
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> > Am Sat, 02 Ap
In message <20160402231955.41b05526.ohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.de>, "O.
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> Am Sat, 2 Apr 2016 11:39:10 +0200
> "O. Hartmann" schrieb:
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> > Am Sat, 2 Apr
In message
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> On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 2:19 PM, O. Hartmann
> wrote:
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> > Am Sat, 2 Apr 2016 11:39:10 +0200
> > "O. Hartmann" schrieb:
> >
> > > Am Sat, 2 Apr 2016 10:55:03 +0200
> > > "O. Hartma
In message <20160402105503.7ede5be1.ohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.de>, "O.
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> Am Sat, 02 Apr 2016 01:07:55 -0700
> Cy Schubert schrieb:
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> > In message <56
On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 2:19 PM, O. Hartmann
wrote:
> Am Sat, 2 Apr 2016 11:39:10 +0200
> "O. Hartmann" schrieb:
>
> > Am Sat, 2 Apr 2016 10:55:03 +0200
> > "O. Hartmann" schrieb:
> >
> > > Am Sat, 02 Apr 2016 01:07:55 -0700
> > > Cy Schubert schrieb:
> > >
> > > > In message <56f6c6b0.6010...@
Am Sat, 2 Apr 2016 11:39:10 +0200
"O. Hartmann" schrieb:
> Am Sat, 2 Apr 2016 10:55:03 +0200
> "O. Hartmann" schrieb:
>
> > Am Sat, 02 Apr 2016 01:07:55 -0700
> > Cy Schubert schrieb:
> >
> > > In message <56f6c6b0.6010...@protected-networks.net>, Michael Butler
> > > writes:
> > > > -
Am Sat, 2 Apr 2016 10:55:03 +0200
"O. Hartmann" schrieb:
> Am Sat, 02 Apr 2016 01:07:55 -0700
> Cy Schubert schrieb:
>
> > In message <56f6c6b0.6010...@protected-networks.net>, Michael Butler
> > writes:
> > > -current is not great for interactive use at all. The strategy of
> > > pre-emptiv
Am Sat, 02 Apr 2016 01:07:55 -0700
Cy Schubert schrieb:
> In message <56f6c6b0.6010...@protected-networks.net>, Michael Butler writes:
> > -current is not great for interactive use at all. The strategy of
> > pre-emptively dropping idle processes to swap is hurting .. big time.
>
> FreeBSD doe
In message <56f6c6b0.6010...@protected-networks.net>, Michael Butler writes:
> -current is not great for interactive use at all. The strategy of
> pre-emptively dropping idle processes to swap is hurting .. big time.
FreeBSD doesn't "preemptively" or arbitrarily push pages out to disk. LRU
doesn'
In message <56f6c6b0.6010...@protected-networks.net>, Michael Butler writes:
> -current is not great for interactive use at all. The strategy of
> pre-emptively dropping idle processes to swap is hurting .. big time.
>
> Compare inactive memory to swap in this example ..
>
> 110 processes: 1 runn
In message <201603300728.u2u7sdwc092...@gw.catspoiler.org>, Don Lewis
writes:
> On 29 Mar, To: ohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.de wrote:
> > On 28 Mar, Don Lewis wrote:
> >> On 28 Mar, O. Hartmann wrote:
> >
> >> If I get a chance, I try booting my FreeBSD 11 machine with less RAM to
> >> see if that i
Am Fri, 1 Apr 2016 13:37:14 -0700 (PDT)
Don Lewis schrieb:
> On 1 Apr, O. Hartmann wrote:
> > Am Wed, 30 Mar 2016 00:28:39 -0700 (PDT)
> > Don Lewis schrieb:
>
> >> Do you use tmpfs? Anything stored in there will get stashed in inactive
> >> memory and/or swap.
> > [...]
> >
> > Yes, /va
On 1 Apr, O. Hartmann wrote:
> Am Wed, 30 Mar 2016 00:28:39 -0700 (PDT)
> Don Lewis schrieb:
>> Do you use tmpfs? Anything stored in there will get stashed in inactive
>> memory and/or swap.
> [...]
>
> Yes, /var/run and /tmp are on tmpfs
There is probably not enough stashed in /var/run to
Am Wed, 30 Mar 2016 00:28:39 -0700 (PDT)
Don Lewis schrieb:
> On 29 Mar, To: ohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.de wrote:
> > On 28 Mar, Don Lewis wrote:
> >> On 28 Mar, O. Hartmann wrote:
> >
> >> If I get a chance, I try booting my FreeBSD 11 machine with less RAM to
> >> see if that is a trigger
On 29 Mar, To: ohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.de wrote:
> On 28 Mar, Don Lewis wrote:
>> On 28 Mar, O. Hartmann wrote:
>
>> If I get a chance, I try booting my FreeBSD 11 machine with less RAM to
>> see if that is a trigger.
>
> I just tried cranking hw.physmen down to 8 GB on 11.0-CURRENT r297204,
>
On 28 Mar, Don Lewis wrote:
> On 28 Mar, O. Hartmann wrote:
> If I get a chance, I try booting my FreeBSD 11 machine with less RAM to
> see if that is a trigger.
I just tried cranking hw.physmen down to 8 GB on 11.0-CURRENT r297204,
GENERIC kernel. /boot/loader.conf contains:
geom_mirror_load
On Mon, 28 Mar 2016 14:52:09 -0700 (PDT)
Don Lewis wrote:
> On 28 Mar, O. Hartmann wrote:
> > Am Sat, 26 Mar 2016 14:26:45 -0700 (PDT)
> > Don Lewis schrieb:
> >
> >> On 26 Mar, Michael Butler wrote:
> >> > -current is not great for interactive use at all. The strategy of
> >> > pre-emptive
On 28 Mar, O. Hartmann wrote:
> Am Sat, 26 Mar 2016 14:26:45 -0700 (PDT)
> Don Lewis schrieb:
>
>> On 26 Mar, Michael Butler wrote:
>> > -current is not great for interactive use at all. The strategy of
>> > pre-emptively dropping idle processes to swap is hurting .. big time.
>> >
>> > Compare
Am Sat, 26 Mar 2016 14:26:45 -0700 (PDT)
Don Lewis schrieb:
> On 26 Mar, Michael Butler wrote:
> > -current is not great for interactive use at all. The strategy of
> > pre-emptively dropping idle processes to swap is hurting .. big time.
> >
> > Compare inactive memory to swap in this example .
In message <201603262331.u2qnvxvm080...@gw.catspoiler.org>, Don Lewis writes:
>> I am not running zfs.
Ohh, and I should probably add: I don't have a swap-space configured.
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On 26 Mar, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
>
> In message
>
> , Ultima writes:
>
>> A large zfs send [...]
>
> I am not running zfs.
I am. I'm not seeing any unexpected problems. I haven't really loaded
this system up with a big poudriere run since it's been booted. It's
mostly just been
In message
, Ultima writes:
> A large zfs send [...]
I am not running zfs.
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FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe
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Having this long timeout issue occur many times during the day. Normally
not this bad, currently on r297060 amd64. A few hours ago had a system hang
that lasted for about 1-2 hours.(not sure how long exactly, gave up
waiting) It occured after a zfs destroy operation and affected sshd. (could
no l
On 26 Mar, Michael Butler wrote:
> -current is not great for interactive use at all. The strategy of
> pre-emptively dropping idle processes to swap is hurting .. big time.
>
> Compare inactive memory to swap in this example ..
>
> 110 processes: 1 running, 108 sleeping, 1 zombie
> CPU: 1.2% use
On 26 Mar, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
>
> In message
>
> , Adrian Chadd writes:
>
> I can second that -current isn't too great right now, and I also see
> the breaking SSH sessions.
>
> I'm running:
>
> FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT #32 r296137: Sat Feb 27 11:34:01 UTC 2016
>
> I repartit
In message
, Adrian Chadd writes:
I can second that -current isn't too great right now, and I also see
the breaking SSH sessions.
I'm running:
FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT #32 r296137: Sat Feb 27 11:34:01 UTC 2016
I repartitioned my disk I don't have the previous version around any mo
hiya,
can you identify a revision where it /doesn't/ do broken pipe? That'd
be the best way to start debugging this and figure out which revision
broke things.
I haven't updated to the latest -HEAD on anything just yet;
everything's a few weeks old.
Thanks,
-a
On 25 March 2016 at 13:30, O. H
Am Sat, 26 Mar 2016 13:28:16 -0400
Michael Butler schrieb:
> -current is not great for interactive use at all. The strategy of
> pre-emptively dropping idle processes to swap is hurting .. big time.
What is the gain then?
If this "feature" results in corrupted ssh sessions, slow console session
Sorry meant inpcb and autocorrect "fixed" it.
On Saturday, March 26, 2016, O. Hartmann
wrote:
> Am Fri, 25 Mar 2016 13:31:31 -0700
> "K. Macy" > schrieb:
>
> > Does this pre or postage input changes?
>
> ???
>
> First of all, and the most visible fact is, that the ssh connection with
> high term
-current is not great for interactive use at all. The strategy of
pre-emptively dropping idle processes to swap is hurting .. big time.
Compare inactive memory to swap in this example ..
110 processes: 1 running, 108 sleeping, 1 zombie
CPU: 1.2% user, 0.0% nice, 4.3% system, 0.0% interrupt, 9
Am Fri, 25 Mar 2016 13:31:31 -0700
"K. Macy" schrieb:
> Does this pre or postage input changes?
???
First of all, and the most visible fact is, that the ssh connection with high
terminal
i/o (compiling world, poudriere bulk ...) receives very often broken pipe. The
"native"
console of the sys
Does this pre or postage input changes?
On Friday, March 25, 2016, O. Hartmann wrote:
> Since a couple of days now, FreeBSD CURRENT (at the moment with FreeBSD
> 11.0-CURRENT #9
> r297267: Fri Mar 25 09:48:07 CET 2016 amd64) "feels" a kind of shaky and
> like "glue": it
> is slow with X11, somet
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