On Saturday, 26 July 2003 at 11:00:40 -0600, M. Warner Losh wrote:
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> "M. Warner Losh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> The reason I keep saying that is that nobody knows for sure. Nobody
>> has reverse engineered anything, got sued and won (or lost). Ju
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"M. Warner Losh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
: The reason I keep saying that is that nobody knows for sure. Nobody
: has reverse engineered anything, got sued and won (or lost). Just
However, there are one or two cases that are close to relevant workin
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Wesley Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
: On Sat, 26 Jul 2003, Doug White wrote:
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: > On Fri, 25 Jul 2003, M. Warner Losh wrote:
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: > > : Can they now take "they took relevant steps" as a defence in a law court?
: > >
: > > That's a very interestin
On Sat, 26 Jul 2003, Doug White wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Jul 2003, M. Warner Losh wrote:
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> > : Can they now take "they took relevant steps" as a defence in a law court?
> >
> > That's a very interesting question.
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> Which might get answered since some industrious folks aligned with a
> certain other
On Fri, 25 Jul 2003, M. Warner Losh wrote:
> : Can they now take "they took relevant steps" as a defence in a law court?
>
> That's a very interesting question.
Which might get answered since some industrious folks aligned with a
certain other open source operating system are in the process of re
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 06:36:55AM -0600, M. Warner Losh wrote:
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> : On Thu, Jul 24, 2003, M. Warner Losh wrote:
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> : > Chris BeHanna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
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Adrian Chadd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
: On Thu, Jul 24, 2003, M. Warner Losh wrote:
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: > Chris BeHanna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
: > : Can't they just redact that information from the spec.?
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: >
On Thu, Jul 24, 2003, M. Warner Losh wrote:
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> Chris BeHanna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> : Can't they just redact that information from the spec.?
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> Typically no. Even in a redacted spec it would be painfully obvious
> what to do. Also, differ
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Chris BeHanna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
: Can't they just redact that information from the spec.?
Typically no. Even in a redacted spec it would be painfully obvious
what to do. Also, different regulatory domains have different
frequencies that a
On Wed, 23 Jul 2003, Kevin Oberman wrote:
> > From: "Matthew Emmerton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 18:21:23 -0400
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> > > The folks at Broadcom have not been willing to release any information
> > > on their 800.11g chips for fear of violating FCC regs. The required
> > > NDA
On Wed, Jul 23, 2003 at 06:21:23PM -0400, Matthew Emmerton wrote:
> Why would Broadcom be scared? Obviously it's the _driver_ that controls the
> power/freq output of the chip, so the responsibility of staying within FCC
> regs is that of the driver authors. Of course, the "no warranty" aspects o
On Wed, Jul 23, 2003 at 06:21:23PM -0400, Matthew Emmerton wrote:
> > > Folks,
...
> > > Can anyone provide some pointers or links that would bring me
> > > up-to-date on the current state of affairs on this subject,
> > > especially as it related to FreeBSD or *BSD in general?
> >
> > The folks
> From: "Matthew Emmerton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 18:21:23 -0400
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> > The folks at Broadcom have not been willing to release any information
> > on their 800.11g chips for fear of violating FCC regs. The required
> > NDA would prohibit the release of the source. You can prog
> > Folks,
> >
> > Okay, so now I just figured out what the "ath" driver is. Sigh...
> >
> > Of course, I find this out through searching for open source
> > drivers for the Broadcom chipset as used in the Linksys WPC54G
> > cardbus device, which I happen to have just bought.
> >
> >
> > I've alre
> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 23:32:13 +0200
> From: Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Folks,
>
> Okay, so now I just figured out what the "ath" driver is. Sigh...
>
> Of course, I find this out through searching for open source
> drivers for the Broadcom
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