Re: Status of Alder and Raptor lake on FreeBSD Current

2023-04-15 Thread Alexey Vyskubov
> I was wondering what the status of Alder/Raptor lake support is on FreeBSD?
> Does it boot?

I am writing this message from 13.2 machine with i3-12100F (must be an
Alder Lake; no integrated graphics in this one, though) in B660
motherboard. Previously the same machine was running 13.1. If it
matters, I have multiple ZFS pools, including root on ZFS mirror.
According to powermon(8) my package normally consumes less than 10W.

I do not think that the support for an Alder Lake got worse in -CURRENT.

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Re: Status of Alder and Raptor lake on FreeBSD Current

2023-04-13 Thread Stephane Rochoy



Dries Michiels  writes:

I was wondering what the status of Alder/Raptor lake support is 
on FreeBSD?
Does it boot? Integrated graphics are supported from what I 
recall with the

newest drm drivers.
Are there any plans for changes to our scheduler to account for 
efficiency

and performance cores?
Are there real world downsides of not having such a scheduler 
when running

an Alder or Raptor lake CPU?

Interested to hear from users using these CPU's right now in 
there system!
The Reason I ask is that I'm interested in upgrading my home 
server

hardware :-).


Hi,

AFAIK, last status was given by Mike Karels (karels@) on Feb 7,
2023 on freebsd-stable@ [1]. I'm also interested in any news on
the topic :)

[1] 
https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-stable/2023-February/001103.html


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Re: Status of Alder and Raptor lake on FreeBSD Current

2023-04-12 Thread Kevin Oberman
On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 11:43 AM Mike Karels  wrote:

> On 12 Apr 2023, at 9:59, Dries Michiels wrote:
>
> > Hello current mailing list,
> >
> > I was wondering what the status of Alder/Raptor lake support is on
> FreeBSD?
> > Does it boot? Integrated graphics are supported from what I recall with
> the
> > newest drm drivers.
>
-current and 13.2 boot and run on Alder Lake, and probably Raptor Lake (I
> haven’t heard of any tests).  There is a bug, probably in hardware, that
> affects page invalidation on E-cores, but a workaround changes the
> mechanism
> on the E-cores to compensate.  I have no information on graphics, maybe
> someone else does.
>

It works with drm-515-kmod, but I have been unable to get VA-API or DRM to
work much. driinfo reports swrast. Performance is pretty bad compared to my
12 year old Ivy Lake, but surprisingly fast with all 12 threads on my
ThinkPad T16 running. a 1180p video runs at about 13% of the total CPU
capacity. glxgears get a rather paltry 900 FPS. But everything seems to
work.

Mike
>
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Re: Status of Alder and Raptor lake on FreeBSD Current

2023-04-12 Thread Mike Karels
On 12 Apr 2023, at 9:59, Dries Michiels wrote:

> Hello current mailing list,
>
> I was wondering what the status of Alder/Raptor lake support is on FreeBSD?
> Does it boot? Integrated graphics are supported from what I recall with the
> newest drm drivers.

-current and 13.2 boot and run on Alder Lake, and probably Raptor Lake (I
haven’t heard of any tests).  There is a bug, probably in hardware, that
affects page invalidation on E-cores, but a workaround changes the mechanism
on the E-cores to compensate.  I have no information on graphics, maybe
someone else does.

> Are there any plans for changes to our scheduler to account for efficiency
> and performance cores?
> Are there real world downsides of not having such a scheduler when running
> an Alder or Raptor lake CPU?

I have been working on scheduler changes, but slowly.  Things work surprisingly
well without them though.  An E-core is slower than the first thread on a
P-core, but faster than the second thread.  The scheduler puts fewer processes
on the E-cores because of the shared cache in groups of 4 CPUs (vs 2 for SMT
on the P-cores).  Of course, with enough processes, they all get used.

> Interested to hear from users using these CPU's right now in there system!
> The Reason I ask is that I'm interested in upgrading my home server
> hardware :-).

I’m running -current on an i7-12700K, and it feels fast compared to my
i7-10700K.

Mike



Status of Alder and Raptor lake on FreeBSD Current

2023-04-12 Thread Dries Michiels
Hello current mailing list,

I was wondering what the status of Alder/Raptor lake support is on FreeBSD?
Does it boot? Integrated graphics are supported from what I recall with the
newest drm drivers.
Are there any plans for changes to our scheduler to account for efficiency
and performance cores?
Are there real world downsides of not having such a scheduler when running
an Alder or Raptor lake CPU?

Interested to hear from users using these CPU's right now in there system!
The Reason I ask is that I'm interested in upgrading my home server
hardware :-).

Regards
Dries