Re: USB Keyboard questions

2003-10-21 Thread Peter
Doesnt look like my Abit KD7 has a legacy support, I can choose BIOS
support or OS support for the USB keyboard and mouse. The keyboard
works perfectly under winxp and under win200. I dont see the behavior
with the letters there and this is using the standard drivers for a
HID keyboard as win2000 finds it.

I had the keyboard pluged into a USB hub, when I moved it to a USB2
port I didnt experiense the behavior with the letters, but I was still
unable to to use the keyboard to install the keyboard using the USB
ports. When I use the USB - PS/2 converter that came with the
keyboard it works though.

So I think the letter problem was due to my CNet USB 4 way hub. And I
dont know why am unable to use the keyboard pluged into the USB port
when I install FreeBSD 5.1 but it works when I install FreeBSD 4.8.

Thanks for the help and comments on this. :)

Peter
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From: Andre Guibert de Bruet [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 5:58 AM
Subject: Re: USB Keyboard questions



 On Mon, 20 Oct 2003, Peter wrote:

  I have been reading that page and I have the keyboard working, but
I
  fail to see how this will help a user that only has a USB Keyboard
  that wants to use FreeBSD5.1 and is unable to install it due to
the
  lack of USB support from the start.

 Some BIOSes offer a USB legacy support option which allows the use
of a
 usb keyboard as if it were a PS2 keyboard during system startup.

  And I still would like to know if its my keyboard that is out of
sync
  with the USB spec since it will add letters when I write like .
  This should read like this but can end up like Thisi should
reaed
  likek this

 Does this keyboard exhibit the same behavior when it's plugged into
a
 Windows machine? It's a little early to speculate what the issue
could be,
 as there are a number of links in this chain but it's very possible
that
 you simply have a wonky keyboard on your hands.

 Regards,

  Andre Guibert de Bruet | Enterprise Software Consultant 
  Silicon Landmark, LLC. | http://siliconlandmark.com/



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Re: USB Keyboard questions

2003-10-21 Thread Peter
Was to quick there, the problem with the letters still exist. But when
I run it with the convertet it works.

Peter

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From: Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Andre Guibert de Bruet [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 12:25 PM
Subject: Re: USB Keyboard questions


 Doesnt look like my Abit KD7 has a legacy support, I can choose BIOS
 support or OS support for the USB keyboard and mouse. The keyboard
 works perfectly under winxp and under win200. I dont see the
behavior
 with the letters there and this is using the standard drivers for a
 HID keyboard as win2000 finds it.

 I had the keyboard pluged into a USB hub, when I moved it to a USB2
 port I didnt experiense the behavior with the letters, but I was
still
 unable to to use the keyboard to install the keyboard using the USB
 ports. When I use the USB - PS/2 converter that came with the
 keyboard it works though.

 So I think the letter problem was due to my CNet USB 4 way hub. And
I
 dont know why am unable to use the keyboard pluged into the USB port
 when I install FreeBSD 5.1 but it works when I install FreeBSD 4.8.

 Thanks for the help and comments on this. :)

 Peter
 - Original Message - 
 From: Andre Guibert de Bruet [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 5:58 AM
 Subject: Re: USB Keyboard questions


 
  On Mon, 20 Oct 2003, Peter wrote:
 
   I have been reading that page and I have the keyboard working,
but
 I
   fail to see how this will help a user that only has a USB
Keyboard
   that wants to use FreeBSD5.1 and is unable to install it due to
 the
   lack of USB support from the start.
 
  Some BIOSes offer a USB legacy support option which allows the
use
 of a
  usb keyboard as if it were a PS2 keyboard during system startup.
 
   And I still would like to know if its my keyboard that is out of
 sync
   with the USB spec since it will add letters when I write like .
   This should read like this but can end up like Thisi should
 reaed
   likek this
 
  Does this keyboard exhibit the same behavior when it's plugged
into
 a
  Windows machine? It's a little early to speculate what the issue
 could be,
  as there are a number of links in this chain but it's very
possible
 that
  you simply have a wonky keyboard on your hands.
 
  Regards,
 
   Andre Guibert de Bruet | Enterprise Software Consultant 
   Silicon Landmark, LLC. | http://siliconlandmark.com/
 


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Re: USB Keyboard questions

2003-10-21 Thread Doug White
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003, Peter wrote:

 Doesnt look like my Abit KD7 has a legacy support, I can choose BIOS
 support or OS support for the USB keyboard and mouse. The keyboard
 works perfectly under winxp and under win200. I dont see the behavior
 with the letters there and this is using the standard drivers for a
 HID keyboard as win2000 finds it.

I bet BIOS support is the right option.

 So I think the letter problem was due to my CNet USB 4 way hub. And I
 dont know why am unable to use the keyboard pluged into the USB port
 when I install FreeBSD 5.1 but it works when I install FreeBSD 4.8.

What kind of usb controller is it? ohci?  Also, the Macintosh forums have
been complaining about the poor quality of most USB hubs and the problems
they cause with printers, etc.  Its too bad since hubs should be really
easy to build.

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Re: USB Keyboard questions

2003-10-21 Thread Andre Guibert de Bruet

On Tue, 21 Oct 2003, Peter wrote:

 Was to quick there, the problem with the letters still exist. But when
 I run it with the convertet it works.

Under Windows or with the USB2 card (or both)?

 Andre Guibert de Bruet | Enterprise Software Consultant 
 Silicon Landmark, LLC. | http://siliconlandmark.com/
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Re: USB Keyboard questions

2003-10-21 Thread Peter
Ok I will try and get the information down :)

from the dmesg
uhci0: VIA 83C572 USB controller port 0xc400-0xc41f irq 10 at device
16.0 on pci0
usb0: VIA 83C572 USB controller on uhci0
usb0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
ukbd0: Logitech USB Receiver, rev 1.10/17.00, addr 2, iclass 3/1
kbd0 at ukbd0
ums0: Logitech USB Receiver, rev 1.10/17.00, addr 2, iclass 3/1
ums0: 7 buttons and Z dir.
uhub1: Texas Instruments TUSB2046 hub, class 9/0, rev 1.10/1.25, addr
3
uhub1: 4 ports with 4 removable, bus powered
ugen0: Logitech Camera, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 4
ugen1: vendor 0x0f4d product 0x1000, rev 1.10/4.01, addr 5
uhci1: VIA 83C572 USB controller port 0xc800-0xc81f irq 11 at device
16.1 on pci0
usb1: VIA 83C572 USB controller on uhci1
usb1: USB revision 1.0
uhub2: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci2: VIA 83C572 USB controller port 0xcc00-0xcc1f irq 7 at device
16.2 on pci0
usb2: VIA 83C572 USB controller on uhci2
usb2: USB revision 1.0
uhub3: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub3: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
From what I can see the USB used is UHCI, doesnt say in the manual
what they use.


When I run WinXP It doesnt matter where I plug in the keyboard. In the
USB1, USB2 or with the USB-PS/2 convert in the PS/2 port there are no
glitches at all. It types like I do. So no added letters in the text
im writing.

When I run FreeBSD 4.8 I can install it using the keyboard in the USB
port, this I cant do with FreeBSD 5.1.
When I write text in FreeBSD * when pluged into the USB* ports I get
added letters like this should be the text thisi shohuld be the
textx (just example). How the letters are added seems random but it
happens more often the faster I type.

When I run with the USB-PS/2 Converter to plug the keyboard into the
PS/2 Port it works without any problems at all in both WinXP and
FreeBSD 5.1. I can install FreeBSD 5.1 and can type without any
problem.

So from my point of view as a user I can see three problems.
A) the usb support on my motherboard is bad to worse
B) something isnĀ“t right in FreeBSDs USB support.
C) A and B in combination.

Or im totaly wrong :) and that happens from time to time.

I hope this info helps.

Peter


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From: Doug White [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Andre Guibert de Bruet [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: USB Keyboard questions


 On Tue, 21 Oct 2003, Peter wrote:

  Doesnt look like my Abit KD7 has a legacy support, I can choose
BIOS
  support or OS support for the USB keyboard and mouse. The keyboard
  works perfectly under winxp and under win200. I dont see the
behavior
  with the letters there and this is using the standard drivers for
a
  HID keyboard as win2000 finds it.

 I bet BIOS support is the right option.

  So I think the letter problem was due to my CNet USB 4 way hub.
And I
  dont know why am unable to use the keyboard pluged into the USB
port
  when I install FreeBSD 5.1 but it works when I install FreeBSD
4.8.

 What kind of usb controller is it? ohci?  Also, the Macintosh forums
have
 been complaining about the poor quality of most USB hubs and the
problems
 they cause with printers, etc.  Its too bad since hubs should be
really
 easy to build.

 -- 
 Doug White|  FreeBSD: The Power to Serve
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  |  www.FreeBSD.org



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Re: USB Keyboard questions

2003-10-20 Thread Andre Guibert de Bruet

On Mon, 20 Oct 2003, Peter wrote:

 I have been reading that page and I have the keyboard working, but I
 fail to see how this will help a user that only has a USB Keyboard
 that wants to use FreeBSD5.1 and is unable to install it due to the
 lack of USB support from the start.

Some BIOSes offer a USB legacy support option which allows the use of a
usb keyboard as if it were a PS2 keyboard during system startup.

 And I still would like to know if its my keyboard that is out of sync
 with the USB spec since it will add letters when I write like .
 This should read like this but can end up like Thisi should reaed
 likek this

Does this keyboard exhibit the same behavior when it's plugged into a
Windows machine? It's a little early to speculate what the issue could be,
as there are a number of links in this chain but it's very possible that
you simply have a wonky keyboard on your hands.

Regards,

 Andre Guibert de Bruet | Enterprise Software Consultant 
 Silicon Landmark, LLC. | http://siliconlandmark.com/
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USB Keyboard questions

2003-10-19 Thread Peter
Hi

I have been trying to install FreeBSD 5.1 with a Logitech USB
keyboard. But I have been unable to do that since it looks like
FreeBSD 5.1 doesnt recognize the keyboard when it hasnt loaded the
kernel. I then tried to install FreeBSD 4.8 and it worked like a charm
with the USB keyboard.

My first question is; Why isnt there support for a USB Keyboard during
the installation of FreeBSD 5.1 and during the boot up process as
well? I am unable to use it in the boot screen of FreeBSD 5.1.

My second question is; I have been able to get the usb keyboard
working in FreeBSD after help in the question mailing list, but when I
use it I tend to every now and then get the same character again, this
happens most often when im typing fast. I gues this is common knowledg
but since Im new in current and new to using USB Keyboard in FreeBSD
and I havent found much searching in Google. Is there a way to stop it
or is it a bug in the USB source for FreeBSD, or just me. Mostly
intrested in the status of this.

Im running FreeBSD 5.1 release #0 with Generic kernel.
Motherboard: Abit KD7
CPU: AMD Baraton
Keyboard: Logitech cordless comfort

With regards

Peter


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Re: USB Keyboard questions

2003-10-19 Thread Andre Guibert de Bruet

On Sat, 18 Oct 2003, Peter wrote:

 I have been trying to install FreeBSD 5.1 with a Logitech USB
 keyboard. But I have been unable to do that since it looks like
 FreeBSD 5.1 doesnt recognize the keyboard when it hasnt loaded the
 kernel. I then tried to install FreeBSD 4.8 and it worked like a charm
 with the USB keyboard.

 My first question is; Why isnt there support for a USB Keyboard during
 the installation of FreeBSD 5.1 and during the boot up process as
 well? I am unable to use it in the boot screen of FreeBSD 5.1.

 My second question is; I have been able to get the usb keyboard
 working in FreeBSD after help in the question mailing list, but when I
 use it I tend to every now and then get the same character again, this
 happens most often when im typing fast. I gues this is common knowledg
 but since Im new in current and new to using USB Keyboard in FreeBSD
 and I havent found much searching in Google. Is there a way to stop it
 or is it a bug in the USB source for FreeBSD, or just me. Mostly
 intrested in the status of this.

 Im running FreeBSD 5.1 release #0 with Generic kernel.
 Motherboard: Abit KD7
 CPU: AMD Baraton
 Keyboard: Logitech cordless comfort

All the information you need to set it up is in the ukbd(4) manpage.

Regards,

 Andre Guibert de Bruet | Enterprise Software Consultant 
 Silicon Landmark, LLC. | http://siliconlandmark.com/

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Re: USB Keyboard questions

2003-10-19 Thread Peter
Thanks for the answer,

I have been reading that page and I have the keyboard working, but I
fail to see how this will help a user that only has a USB Keyboard
that wants to use FreeBSD5.1 and is unable to install it due to the
lack of USB support from the start.

And I still would like to know if its my keyboard that is out of sync
with the USB spec since it will add letters when I write like .
This should read like this but can end up like Thisi should reaed
likek this

Thanks

Peter
- Original Message - 
From: Andre Guibert de Bruet [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2003 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: USB Keyboard questions



 On Sat, 18 Oct 2003, Peter wrote:

  I have been trying to install FreeBSD 5.1 with a Logitech USB
  keyboard. But I have been unable to do that since it looks like
  FreeBSD 5.1 doesnt recognize the keyboard when it hasnt loaded the
  kernel. I then tried to install FreeBSD 4.8 and it worked like a
charm
  with the USB keyboard.
 
  My first question is; Why isnt there support for a USB Keyboard
during
  the installation of FreeBSD 5.1 and during the boot up process as
  well? I am unable to use it in the boot screen of FreeBSD 5.1.
 
  My second question is; I have been able to get the usb keyboard
  working in FreeBSD after help in the question mailing list, but
when I
  use it I tend to every now and then get the same character again,
this
  happens most often when im typing fast. I gues this is common
knowledg
  but since Im new in current and new to using USB Keyboard in
FreeBSD
  and I havent found much searching in Google. Is there a way to
stop it
  or is it a bug in the USB source for FreeBSD, or just me. Mostly
  intrested in the status of this.
 
  Im running FreeBSD 5.1 release #0 with Generic kernel.
  Motherboard: Abit KD7
  CPU: AMD Baraton
  Keyboard: Logitech cordless comfort

 All the information you need to set it up is in the ukbd(4) manpage.

 Regards,

  Andre Guibert de Bruet | Enterprise Software Consultant 
  Silicon Landmark, LLC. | http://siliconlandmark.com/




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