Re: What's changed recently with vmware/linuxemu/file I/O

2001-02-09 Thread Andrew Gallatin
Andrew Gallatin writes: Dag-Erling Smorgrav writes: Julian Elischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I believe that vmware mmaps a region of memory and then somehow syncs it to disk. (It is certainly doing something like it here). Theory: VMWare mmaps a region of memory

Re: What's changed recently with vmware/linuxemu/file I/O

2001-02-09 Thread Julian Elischer
Andrew Gallatin wrote: Andrew Gallatin writes: Dag-Erling Smorgrav writes: Julian Elischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I believe that vmware mmaps a region of memory and then somehow syncs it to disk. (It is certainly doing something like it here). Theory: VMWare

Re: What's changed recently with vmware/linuxemu/file I/O

2001-02-08 Thread Josef Karthauser
On Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 10:07:06PM -0500, Robert Watson wrote: On 7 Feb 2001, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: Brian Somers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Indeed. I've been doing a ``make build'' on an OpenBSD-current vm for three days (probably about 36 hours excluding suspends) on a

Re: What's changed recently with vmware/linuxemu/file I/O

2001-02-08 Thread Julian Elischer
Josef Karthauser wrote: The slowdown during start up appears to be in biowr; this is probably because of IDE write caching being switched off. More seriously the vmware hangs during various phases of it's boot process. Write caching is incompaible with soft updates. The drive must NEVER

Re: What's changed recently with vmware/linuxemu/file I/O

2001-02-08 Thread Josef Karthauser
On Thu, Feb 08, 2001 at 04:08:12AM -0800, Julian Elischer wrote: Josef Karthauser wrote: 714 root -14 0 123M 79192K inode0:45 25.29% 25.29% vmware When this happens the whole machine freezes also. Processes run, but new processes don't get forked. The whole machine

Re: What's changed recently with vmware/linuxemu/file I/O

2001-02-08 Thread Julian Elischer
Josef Karthauser wrote: On Thu, Feb 08, 2001 at 04:08:12AM -0800, Julian Elischer wrote: Josef Karthauser wrote: 714 root -14 0 123M 79192K inode0:45 25.29% 25.29% vmware When this happens the whole machine freezes also. Processes run, but new processes don't

Re: What's changed recently with vmware/linuxemu/file I/O

2001-02-08 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Julian Elischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I believe that vmware mmaps a region of memory and then somehow syncs it to disk. (It is certainly doing something like it here). Theory: VMWare mmaps a region of memory corresponding to the virtual machine's "physical" RAM, then touches every page

Re: What's changed recently with vmware/linuxemu/file I/O

2001-02-08 Thread Josef Karthauser
On Thu, Feb 08, 2001 at 04:58:17AM -0800, Julian Elischer wrote: Looks like some way of clustering this might achieve a lot. what does systat -vmstat or vmstat 1 show? Better still, I guess we could do a linux-truss and see what it's doing... I believe that it's strace under linux. If

Re: What's changed recently with vmware/linuxemu/file I/O

2001-02-08 Thread David Malone
On Thu, Feb 08, 2001 at 02:47:59PM +, Josef Karthauser wrote: what does systat -vmstat or vmstat 1 show? Better still, I guess we could do a linux-truss and see what it's doing... I believe that it's strace under linux. If someone can provide me with a binary of this tool I'll

Re: What's changed recently with vmware/linuxemu/file I/O

2001-02-08 Thread Brian Somers
On Thu, Feb 08, 2001 at 04:58:17AM -0800, Julian Elischer wrote: =20 Looks like some way of clustering this might achieve a lot. =20 what does systat -vmstat or vmstat 1 show? Better still, I guess we could do a linux-truss and see what it's doing... I believe that it's strace

Re: What's changed recently with vmware/linuxemu/file I/O

2001-02-08 Thread Andrew Gallatin
Dag-Erling Smorgrav writes: Julian Elischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I believe that vmware mmaps a region of memory and then somehow syncs it to disk. (It is certainly doing something like it here). Theory: VMWare mmaps a region of memory corresponding to the virtual machine's

Re: What's changed recently with vmware/linuxemu/file I/O

2001-02-08 Thread Julian Elischer
David Malone wrote: On Thu, Feb 08, 2001 at 02:47:59PM +, Josef Karthauser wrote: what does systat -vmstat or vmstat 1 show? Better still, I guess we could do a linux-truss and see what it's doing... I believe that it's strace under linux. If someone can provide me with

Re: What's changed recently with vmware/linuxemu/file I/O

2001-02-07 Thread Bruce Evans
On Wed, 7 Feb 2001, Josef Karthauser wrote: On Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 08:56:14PM +, Josef Karthauser wrote: On Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 08:26:15PM +0100, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: Brian Somers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Indeed. I've been doing a ``make build'' on an OpenBSD-current vm

Re: What's changed recently with vmware/linuxemu/file I/O

2001-02-07 Thread Josef Karthauser
On Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 08:26:15PM +0100, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: Brian Somers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Indeed. I've been doing a ``make build'' on an OpenBSD-current vm for three days (probably about 36 hours excluding suspends) on a 366MHz laptop with a ATA33 disk. Would it be

Re: What's changed recently with vmware/linuxemu/file I/O

2001-02-07 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Brian Somers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Indeed. I've been doing a ``make build'' on an OpenBSD-current vm for three days (probably about 36 hours excluding suspends) on a 366MHz laptop with a ATA33 disk. Would it be possible for someone experiencing this slowdown to try to narrow down the

Re: What's changed recently with vmware/linuxemu/file I/O

2001-02-07 Thread Robert Watson
On 7 Feb 2001, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: Brian Somers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Indeed. I've been doing a ``make build'' on an OpenBSD-current vm for three days (probably about 36 hours excluding suspends) on a 366MHz laptop with a ATA33 disk. Would it be possible for someone

Re: What's changed recently with vmware/linuxemu/file I/O

2001-02-07 Thread Josef Karthauser
On Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 08:56:14PM +, Josef Karthauser wrote: On Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 08:26:15PM +0100, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: Brian Somers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Indeed. I've been doing a ``make build'' on an OpenBSD-current vm for three days (probably about 36 hours

What's changed recently with vmware/linuxemu/file I/O

2001-02-06 Thread Josef Karthauser
Hi, I'm wondering what's changed recently to cause vmware2 running on the linuxemu to lose a lot of performance with disk I/O. A couple of weeks ago I could boot win2000 under vmware2 in a matter of minutes; on today's kernel it takes 5 or 10 minutes to boot, and disk I/O is through the roof.

Re: What's changed recently with vmware/linuxemu/file I/O

2001-02-06 Thread Julian Elischer
Josef Karthauser wrote: Hi, I'm wondering what's changed recently to cause vmware2 running on the linuxemu to lose a lot of performance with disk I/O. A couple of weeks ago I could boot win2000 under vmware2 in a matter of minutes; on today's kernel it takes 5 or 10 minutes to boot,

Re: What's changed recently with vmware/linuxemu/file I/O

2001-02-06 Thread Bruce Evans
On Tue, 6 Feb 2001, Josef Karthauser wrote: I'm wondering what's changed recently to cause vmware2 running on the linuxemu to lose a lot of performance with disk I/O. Use of cmpxchg and possibly other SMP pessimizations. A couple of weeks ago I could boot win2000 under vmware2 in a matter

Re: What's changed recently with vmware/linuxemu/file I/O

2001-02-06 Thread Josef Karthauser
On Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 02:40:27AM +1100, Bruce Evans wrote: Could someone please hit me with a clue-bat :) Read your freebsd-emulation mail :-). /me wanders off to subscribe to freebsd-emulation. Thanks Bruce. Joe PGP signature

Re: What's changed recently with vmware/linuxemu/file I/O

2001-02-06 Thread Julian Elischer
Bruce Evans wrote: On Tue, 6 Feb 2001, Josef Karthauser wrote: I'm wondering what's changed recently to cause vmware2 running on the linuxemu to lose a lot of performance with disk I/O. Use of cmpxchg and possibly other SMP pessimizations. A couple of weeks ago I could boot

Re: What's changed recently with vmware/linuxemu/file I/O

2001-02-06 Thread Brian Somers
Bruce Evans wrote: On Tue, 6 Feb 2001, Josef Karthauser wrote: I'm wondering what's changed recently to cause vmware2 running on the linuxemu to lose a lot of performance with disk I/O. Use of cmpxchg and possibly other SMP pessimizations. A couple of weeks ago I could