Re: no keyboard after booting r235646 in laptop FS Amilo D 7830

2012-07-09 Thread John Baldwin
On Friday, July 06, 2012 7:25:55 pm Kaho Toshikazu wrote:
   Hello,
 
 John Baldwin j...@freebsd.org wrote:
 
  Almost all systems use one of the IDs we do support as a _CID if not a _HID.
  In fact, in this case it likely seems to be a BIOS bug as it used the same
  value for the _CID and _HID.  I suspect it is supposed to be using 0303 as 
  its
  _CID.
 
   I don't think the BIOS should say PNP0303 as a keyboard _CID.
 Using _CID may help some systems, but it may not be helpful
 for many systems having keyboard probe problem.
 I think it's a specification bug made by Microsoft, 
 same devices connected different type devices should not have
 different ID but same ID.

Well, my point is that having a _HID and _CID with the same ID is
pointless.  It really does look like a typo in the BIOS source.

   People with this problem can override AML code,
 but I don't think it is a bad idea adding other IDs to the list for probing.

Adding IDs is cheap, so I'm fine with doing so.

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Re: no keyboard after booting r235646 in laptop FS Amilo D 7830

2012-07-06 Thread John Baldwin
On Thursday, July 05, 2012 11:04:07 pm Kaho Toshikazu wrote:
   Hello John Baldwin, and all,
 
 John Baldwin j...@freebsd.org wrote:
 
  The system in general in 9.0 and later is more strict about honoring what 
  the 
  BIOS says in terms of allocating resources, so we have to be more correct 
  in 
  probing devices.  The only wrinkles so far do in fact seem to stem from the 
  keyboard controller.
 
   I don't have any plans for treating unknown ID device's resources.
 Many keyboard PNP ID are listed on a file at the below URL,
 and FreeBSD doesn't know almost of them.

Almost all systems use one of the IDs we do support as a _CID if not a _HID.
In fact, in this case it likely seems to be a BIOS bug as it used the same
value for the _CID and _HID.  I suspect it is supposed to be using 0303 as its
_CID.

 http://download.microsoft.com/download/5/7/7/577a5684-8a83-43ae-9272-ff260a9c20e2/pnp_legacy.doc

Note that 030B is listed as reserved in this table, and not a valid keyboard
device.

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Re: no keyboard after booting r235646 in laptop FS Amilo D 7830

2012-07-06 Thread Kaho Toshikazu
  Hello,

John Baldwin j...@freebsd.org wrote:

 Almost all systems use one of the IDs we do support as a _CID if not a _HID.
 In fact, in this case it likely seems to be a BIOS bug as it used the same
 value for the _CID and _HID.  I suspect it is supposed to be using 0303 as its
 _CID.

  I don't think the BIOS should say PNP0303 as a keyboard _CID.
Using _CID may help some systems, but it may not be helpful
for many systems having keyboard probe problem.
I think it's a specification bug made by Microsoft, 
same devices connected different type devices should not have
different ID but same ID.

  http://download.microsoft.com/download/5/7/7/577a5684-8a83-43ae-9272-ff260a9c20e2/pnp_legacy.doc
 
 Note that 030B is listed as reserved in this table, and not a valid keyboard
 device.

  Yes, it's a invalid type, but reserved as a keyborad. 
I don't know why the BIOS builder puts PNP030B as a keyboard,
but it seems to be not a bug.

  People with this problem can override AML code,
but I don't think it is a bad idea adding other IDs to the list for probing.

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Re: no keyboard after booting r235646 in laptop FS Amilo D 7830

2012-07-05 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Thursday, July 05, 2012 a las 03:36:22PM +0900, Kaho Toshikazu escribió:

   Hello Matthias Apitz, and ML members,
 
   Thanks to upload acpi dump. Your keyboard controller ID is PNP030B,
 and your posted patch may be correct. Please undo your reversion,
 and try your patch.


Hello Kaho and all,

Yes! Now it works after inserting the line shown below:

$ dmesg | fgrep kbd
kbd1 at kbdmux0
atkbdc0: Keyboard controller (i8042) port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0
atkbd0: AT Keyboard irq 1 on atkbdc0
kbd0 at atkbd0
atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
psm0: PS/2 Mouse irq 12 on atkbdc0

also the mouse works fine;

Thanks for helping me getting to the point. I will later comment the bug
report in the issue tracker.

Interesting question remains: why it works in the older revision r21?

matthias

  maybe it helps to add a line like this:
  
   static struct isa_pnp_id atkbdc_ids[] = {
  { 0x0303d041, Keyboard controller (i8042) },  /* PNP0303 */
  { 0x2003d041, Keyboard controller (i8042) },  /* PNP0320 */
  +   { 0x0b03d041, Keyboard controller (i8042) },  /* PNP030B */
  { 0 }
  
  

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Re: no keyboard after booting r235646 in laptop FS Amilo D 7830

2012-07-05 Thread Kaho Toshikazu
  Hello,

 Interesting question remains: why it works in the older revision r21?

  I don't know exactly resource management, but ISA_PNP_PROBE()
ignores device.hints if acpi unknown device takes resources.
I think this problem is related to some acpi changes.

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Re: no keyboard after booting r235646 in laptop FS Amilo D 7830

2012-07-05 Thread Kaho Toshikazu
  Hello Matthias Apitz, and ML members,

  Thanks to upload acpi dump. Your keyboard controller ID is PNP030B,
and your posted patch may be correct. Please undo your reversion,
and try your patch.


Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de wrote:

  and there is now an entry for PS2K (not for KBC):
  
  Device (PS2K)
  {
  Name (_HID, EisaId (PNP030B))
  Name (_CID, EisaId (PNP030B))
  Method (_STA, 0, NotSerialized)
  {
  ShiftLeft (0x01, 0x0A, Local0)
  If (And (IOST, Local0))
  {
  Return (0x0F
  
  the full file is here: http://www.unixarea.de/acpidump-r21.txt
 
 maybe it helps to add a line like this:
 
  static struct isa_pnp_id atkbdc_ids[] = {
 { 0x0303d041, Keyboard controller (i8042) },  /* PNP0303 */
 { 0x2003d041, Keyboard controller (i8042) },  /* PNP0320 */
 +   { 0x0b03d041, Keyboard controller (i8042) },  /* PNP030B */
 { 0 }
 
 

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Re: no keyboard after booting r235646 in laptop FS Amilo D 7830

2012-07-05 Thread John Baldwin
On Thursday, July 05, 2012 5:20:35 am Kaho Toshikazu wrote:
   Hello,
 
  Interesting question remains: why it works in the older revision r21?
 
   I don't know exactly resource management, but ISA_PNP_PROBE()
 ignores device.hints if acpi unknown device takes resources.
 I think this problem is related to some acpi changes.

The system in general in 9.0 and later is more strict about honoring what the 
BIOS says in terms of allocating resources, so we have to be more correct in 
probing devices.  The only wrinkles so far do in fact seem to stem from the 
keyboard controller.

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Re: no keyboard after booting r235646 in laptop FS Amilo D 7830

2012-07-05 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Thursday, July 05, 2012 a las 07:39:18AM -0400, John Baldwin escribió:

 On Thursday, July 05, 2012 5:20:35 am Kaho Toshikazu wrote:
Hello,
  
   Interesting question remains: why it works in the older revision r21?
  
I don't know exactly resource management, but ISA_PNP_PROBE()
  ignores device.hints if acpi unknown device takes resources.
  I think this problem is related to some acpi changes.
 
 The system in general in 9.0 and later is more strict about honoring what the 
 BIOS says in terms of allocating resources, so we have to be more correct in 
 probing devices.  The only wrinkles so far do in fact seem to stem from the 
 keyboard controller.
 

Somehow the system should bring up at least console in- and output; if
not you are completely locked out; in my case it was simple, because I
was booting fron an USB key and could tailor the USB booted system to
bring up interface+DHCP+SSH to login via SSH; but without this you are
lost

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Re: no keyboard after booting r235646 in laptop FS Amilo D 7830

2012-07-05 Thread John Baldwin
On Thursday, July 05, 2012 4:25:21 pm Matthias Apitz wrote:
 El día Thursday, July 05, 2012 a las 07:39:18AM -0400, John Baldwin escribió:
 
  On Thursday, July 05, 2012 5:20:35 am Kaho Toshikazu wrote:
 Hello,
   
Interesting question remains: why it works in the older revision 
r21?
   
 I don't know exactly resource management, but ISA_PNP_PROBE()
   ignores device.hints if acpi unknown device takes resources.
   I think this problem is related to some acpi changes.
  
  The system in general in 9.0 and later is more strict about honoring what 
  the 
  BIOS says in terms of allocating resources, so we have to be more correct 
  in 
  probing devices.  The only wrinkles so far do in fact seem to stem from the 
  keyboard controller.
  
 
 Somehow the system should bring up at least console in- and output; if
 not you are completely locked out; in my case it was simple, because I
 was booting fron an USB key and could tailor the USB booted system to
 bring up interface+DHCP+SSH to login via SSH; but without this you are
 lost

So far I can't think of a non-hackish way to special case keyboard and
mouse controllers, though I'm close to doing so (i.e. just ignore any
device that tries to allocate resources in the default range for those
devices unless it is a known device ID).

The patch in this thread should be committed though.

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Re: no keyboard after booting r235646 in laptop FS Amilo D 7830

2012-07-05 Thread Kaho Toshikazu
  Hello John Baldwin, and all,

John Baldwin j...@freebsd.org wrote:

 The system in general in 9.0 and later is more strict about honoring what the 
 BIOS says in terms of allocating resources, so we have to be more correct in 
 probing devices.  The only wrinkles so far do in fact seem to stem from the 
 keyboard controller.

  I don't have any plans for treating unknown ID device's resources.
Many keyboard PNP ID are listed on a file at the below URL,
and FreeBSD doesn't know almost of them.

http://download.microsoft.com/download/5/7/7/577a5684-8a83-43ae-9272-ff260a9c20e2/pnp_legacy.doc

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Re: no keyboard after booting r235646 in laptop FS Amilo D 7830

2012-07-05 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Thursday, July 05, 2012 a las 05:22:22PM -0400, John Baldwin escribió:

 So far I can't think of a non-hackish way to special case keyboard and
 mouse controllers, though I'm close to doing so (i.e. just ignore any
 device that tries to allocate resources in the default range for those
 devices unless it is a known device ID).
 
 The patch in this thread should be committed though.

And one should close this issue with this:
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=169571

thx for all your helping hands

matthias
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Re: no keyboard after booting r235646 in laptop FS Amilo D 7830

2012-07-04 Thread Kaho Toshikazu
  Hello,

  Can you put the file acpidump-r21.txt on the Internet?
When you run `grep Device /tmp/acpidump-r21.txt`
to get device list, can you find PS2K or KBC or similar word?

Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de wrote:
 The command `acpidump -dt` in both releases (r21 and r235646) gives
 an error:
 
 # acpidump -dt  /tmp/acpidump-r21.txt
 acpidump: RSDT entry 2 (sig OEMB) is corrupt
 
 the output in r235646 is only some 70 lines and in r21 I do not see
 any keyboard related; so I can't answer your question if the
 keyboard controller is PNP0303;
 
 Based on r235646 sources, I have checked the SVN-diff between r21
 (where the keyboard is working) and r235646, see attachment
 /tmp/atkbdc_isa.c-r21:r235646; and the logic of the kb detection has
 changed; I will just give it a try and will revert this SVN change, i.e.
 'svn up -r r21 atkbdc_isa.c
 to see if this works... it does not help;
 
 Thanks
 
   matthias
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Re: no keyboard after booting r235646 in laptop FS Amilo D 7830

2012-07-04 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Wednesday, July 04, 2012 a las 07:33:08PM +0900, Kaho Toshikazu escribió:

   Hello,
 
   Can you put the file acpidump-r21.txt on the Internet?
 When you run `grep Device /tmp/acpidump-r21.txt`
 to get device list, can you find PS2K or KBC or similar word?

Hello,

For some unknown reason today it gives more lines:

# acpidump -dt | wc -l
acpidump: RSDT entry 2 (sig OEMB) is corrupt
3815

when I did this the other day it was only around 2000 lines;
and there is now an entry for PS2K (not for KBC):

Device (PS2K)
{
Name (_HID, EisaId (PNP030B))
Name (_CID, EisaId (PNP030B))
Method (_STA, 0, NotSerialized)
{
ShiftLeft (0x01, 0x0A, Local0)
If (And (IOST, Local0))
{
Return (0x0F

the full file is here: http://www.unixarea.de/acpidump-r21.txt

Thanks for your help

matthias

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Re: no keyboard after booting r235646 in laptop FS Amilo D 7830

2012-07-04 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Thursday, July 05, 2012 a las 07:28:33AM +0200, Matthias Apitz escribió:

 and there is now an entry for PS2K (not for KBC):
 
 Device (PS2K)
 {
 Name (_HID, EisaId (PNP030B))
 Name (_CID, EisaId (PNP030B))
 Method (_STA, 0, NotSerialized)
 {
 ShiftLeft (0x01, 0x0A, Local0)
 If (And (IOST, Local0))
 {
 Return (0x0F
 
 the full file is here: http://www.unixarea.de/acpidump-r21.txt

maybe it helps to add a line like this:

 static struct isa_pnp_id atkbdc_ids[] = {
{ 0x0303d041, Keyboard controller (i8042) },  /* PNP0303 */
{ 0x2003d041, Keyboard controller (i8042) },  /* PNP0320 */
+   { 0x0b03d041, Keyboard controller (i8042) },  /* PNP030B */
{ 0 }


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Re: no keyboard after booting r235646 in laptop FS Amilo D 7830

2012-07-03 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Tuesday, July 03, 2012 a las 09:51:37AM +0900, Kaho Toshikazu escribió:

   Hello Matthias Apitz and -current member,
 
   sys/dev/atkbdc/atkbdc_isa.c may not have your keyboard controller's ID.
 Run `acpidump -dt` and search your keyboard description. 
 Is your keyboard controller PNP0303 ?
 
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Hello Kaho Toshikazu and all,

The command `acpidump -dt` in both releases (r21 and r235646) gives
an error:

# acpidump -dt  /tmp/acpidump-r21.txt
acpidump: RSDT entry 2 (sig OEMB) is corrupt

the output in r235646 is only some 70 lines and in r21 I do not see
any keyboard related; so I can't answer your question if the
keyboard controller is PNP0303;

Based on r235646 sources, I have checked the SVN-diff between r21
(where the keyboard is working) and r235646, see attachment
/tmp/atkbdc_isa.c-r21:r235646; and the logic of the kb detection has
changed; I will just give it a try and will revert this SVN change, i.e.
'svn up -r r21 atkbdc_isa.c
to see if this works... it does not help;

Thanks

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Index: atkbdc_isa.c
===
--- atkbdc_isa.c(revision 21)
+++ atkbdc_isa.c(revision 235646)
@@ -49,6 +49,11 @@
 static int atkbdc_isa_attach(device_t dev);
 static device_tatkbdc_isa_add_child(device_t bus, u_int order, const 
char *name,
int unit);
+static struct resource *atkbdc_isa_alloc_resource(device_t dev, device_t child,
+   int type, int *rid, u_long start, u_long end,
+   u_long count, u_int flags);
+static int atkbdc_isa_release_resource(device_t dev, device_t child,
+   int type, int rid, struct resource *r);
 
 static device_method_t atkbdc_isa_methods[] = {
DEVMETHOD(device_probe, atkbdc_isa_probe),
@@ -61,8 +66,8 @@
DEVMETHOD(bus_read_ivar,atkbdc_read_ivar),
DEVMETHOD(bus_write_ivar,   atkbdc_write_ivar),
DEVMETHOD(bus_get_resource_list,atkbdc_get_resource_list),
-   DEVMETHOD(bus_alloc_resource,   bus_generic_rl_alloc_resource),
-   DEVMETHOD(bus_release_resource, bus_generic_rl_release_resource),
+   DEVMETHOD(bus_alloc_resource,   atkbdc_isa_alloc_resource),
+   DEVMETHOD(bus_release_resource, atkbdc_isa_release_resource),
DEVMETHOD(bus_activate_resource, bus_generic_activate_resource),
DEVMETHOD(bus_deactivate_resource, bus_generic_deactivate_resource),
DEVMETHOD(bus_get_resource, bus_generic_rl_get_resource),
@@ -82,6 +87,7 @@
 
 static struct isa_pnp_id atkbdc_ids[] = {
{ 0x0303d041, Keyboard controller (i8042) },  /* PNP0303 */
+   { 0x2003d041, Keyboard controller (i8042) },  /* PNP0320 */
{ 0 }
 };
 
@@ -170,8 +176,6 @@
device_verbose(dev);
 
error = atkbdc_probe_unit(device_get_unit(dev), port0, port1);
-   if (error == 0)
-   bus_generic_probe(dev);
 
bus_release_resource(dev, SYS_RES_IOPORT, 0, port0);
bus_release_resource(dev, SYS_RES_IOPORT, 1, port1);
@@ -216,14 +220,25 @@
return ENXIO;
}
 
+   /*
+* If the device is not created by the PnP BIOS or ACPI, then
+* the hint for the IRQ is on the child atkbd device, not the
+* keyboard controller, so this can fail.
+*/
+   rid = 0;
+   sc-irq = bus_alloc_resource_any(dev, SYS_RES_IRQ, rid, RF_ACTIVE);
+
error = atkbdc_attach_unit(unit, sc, sc-port0, sc-port1);
if (error) {
bus_release_resource(dev, SYS_RES_IOPORT, 0, sc-port0);
bus_release_resource(dev, SYS_RES_IOPORT, 1, sc-port1);
+   if (sc-irq != NULL)
+   bus_release_resource(dev, SYS_RES_IRQ, 0, sc-irq);
return error;
}
*(atkbdc_softc_t **)device_get_softc(dev) = sc;
 
+   bus_generic_probe(dev);
bus_generic_attach(dev);
 
return 0;
@@ -233,9 +248,11 @@
 atkbdc_isa_add_child(device_t bus, u_int order, const char *name, int unit)
 {
atkbdc_device_t *ivar;
+   atkbdc_softc_t  *sc;
device_tchild;
int t;
 
+   sc = *(atkbdc_softc_t **)device_get_softc(bus);
ivar = malloc(sizeof(struct atkbdc_device), M_ATKBDDEV,
M_NOWAIT | M_ZERO);
if (!ivar)
@@ -251,18 +268,21 @@
ivar-rid = order;
 
/*
-* If the device is not created by the PnP BIOS or ACPI,
-* refer to device hints for IRQ.
+* If the device is not created by the PnP BIOS or ACPI, refer
+* to device hints for IRQ.  We always populate the resource
+* list entry so 

Re: no keyboard after booting r235646 in laptop FS Amilo D 7830

2012-07-02 Thread Kaho Toshikazu
  Hello Matthias Apitz and -current member,

  sys/dev/atkbdc/atkbdc_isa.c may not have your keyboard controller's ID.
Run `acpidump -dt` and search your keyboard description. 
Is your keyboard controller PNP0303 ?

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 El d$(D+c*$(B Sunday, July 01, 2012 a las 06:29:28AM +0700, Erich Dollansky 
 escribi$(D+Qk(B
 
 Hi,
 
  and no older versions. I will install the USB booted system to harddisk
  and hope when booted from disk and not from USB the keyboard is working.
  
 
 I installed the system r235646 to disk and it shows the same problem: no
 keyboard;
 
 if 7.4 still runs but not anything after 8.0, it is most likely what I have 
 written. Some USB hardware is not supported anymore in 8 and later.
 
 I would install the old one just to see  You will also know wat hwardware is 
 used there and how it is supported.
 
 This might be the faster route before starting debugging something which is 
 not there.
 
 I said already that it works with a r21 version, CURRENT from
 October 2010; so I booted this again and concerning keyboard, here is
 the diff:
 
 r21:
 
 $ fgrep -i kb /tmp/dmesg-r21.txt
 kbd1 at kbdmux0
 atkbdc0: Keyboard controller (i8042) at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0
 atkbd0: AT Keyboard irq 1 on atkbdc0
 kbd0 at atkbd0
 atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
 psm0: PS/2 Mouse irq 12 on atkbdc0
 
 $ ls -l /dev/kb*
 lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel 6 Jul  1 08:39 /dev/kbd0 - atkbd0
 lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel 7 Jul  1 08:39 /dev/kbd1 - kbdmux0
 crw---  1 root  wheel0,  17 Jul  1 08:39 /dev/kbdmux0
 
 r235646:
 
 $ fgrep -i kb /tmp/dmesg-r235646.txt 
 atkbd: the current kbd controller command byte 0065
 atkbd: keyboard ID 0x41ab (2)
 sc0: fb0, kbd1, terminal emulator: scteken (teken terminal)
 atkbdc0 failed to probe at port 0x60 on isa0
 
 $ ls -l /dev/kb*
 lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel 7 Jul  1 08:39 /dev/kbd1 - kbdmux0
 crw---  1 root  wheel0,  17 Jul  1 08:39 /dev/kbdmux0
 
 the complete /tmp/dmesg-r21.txt is attached, the
 /tmp/dmesg-r235646.txt was in some message of this thread;
 
 So the question is: why the Keyboard controller (i8042) is not
 detected anymore in r235646, while it is in r21?
 
 Thanks
 
   matthias
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Re: no keyboard after booting r235646 in laptop FS Amilo D 7830

2012-07-01 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Sunday, July 01, 2012 a las 06:29:28AM +0700, Erich Dollansky escribió:


Hi,

  and no older versions. I will install the USB booted system to harddisk
  and hope when booted from disk and not from USB the keyboard is working.
  

I installed the system r235646 to disk and it shows the same problem: no
keyboard;

 if 7.4 still runs but not anything after 8.0, it is most likely what I have 
 written. Some USB hardware is not supported anymore in 8 and later.
 
 I would install the old one just to see  You will also know wat hwardware is 
 used there and how it is supported.
 
 This might be the faster route before starting debugging something which is 
 not there.

I said already that it works with a r21 version, CURRENT from
October 2010; so I booted this again and concerning keyboard, here is
the diff:

r21:

$ fgrep -i kb /tmp/dmesg-r21.txt
kbd1 at kbdmux0
atkbdc0: Keyboard controller (i8042) at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0
atkbd0: AT Keyboard irq 1 on atkbdc0
kbd0 at atkbd0
atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
psm0: PS/2 Mouse irq 12 on atkbdc0

$ ls -l /dev/kb*
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel 6 Jul  1 08:39 /dev/kbd0 - atkbd0
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel 7 Jul  1 08:39 /dev/kbd1 - kbdmux0
crw---  1 root  wheel0,  17 Jul  1 08:39 /dev/kbdmux0

r235646:

$ fgrep -i kb /tmp/dmesg-r235646.txt 
atkbd: the current kbd controller command byte 0065
atkbd: keyboard ID 0x41ab (2)
sc0: fb0, kbd1, terminal emulator: scteken (teken terminal)
atkbdc0 failed to probe at port 0x60 on isa0

$ ls -l /dev/kb*
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel 7 Jul  1 08:39 /dev/kbd1 - kbdmux0
crw---  1 root  wheel0,  17 Jul  1 08:39 /dev/kbdmux0

the complete /tmp/dmesg-r21.txt is attached, the
/tmp/dmesg-r235646.txt was in some message of this thread;

So the question is: why the Keyboard controller (i8042) is not
detected anymore in r235646, while it is in r21?

Thanks

matthias
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FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT #1 r21: Thu Oct 28 10:56:32 CEST 2010

g...@current.sisis.de:/usr/home/guru/myThings/FreeBSD/9-CURRENT/obj/usr/home/guru/myThings/FreeBSD/9-CURRENT/src/sys/GENERIC
 i386
WARNING: WITNESS option enabled, expect reduced performance.
CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz (2398.34-MHz 686-class CPU)
  Origin = GenuineIntel  Id = 0xf27  Family = f  Model = 2  Stepping = 7
  
Features=0xbfebfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE
  Features2=0x4400CNXT-ID,xTPR
real memory  = 1073741824 (1024 MB)
avail memory = 1031737344 (983 MB)
Event timer LAPIC quality 400
ACPI APIC Table: A M I  OEMAPIC 
ioapic0 Version 2.0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard
kbd1 at kbdmux0
acpi0: A M I OEMRSDT on motherboard
acpi0: Power Button (fixed)
acpi0: reservation of 0, a (3) failed
acpi0: reservation of 10, 3ff0 (3) failed
Timecounter ACPI-safe frequency 3579545 Hz quality 850
acpi_timer0: 24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz port 0x408-0x40b on acpi0
cpu0: ACPI CPU on acpi0
acpi_ec0: Embedded Controller: GPE 0x1c port 0x62,0x66 on acpi0
pcib0: ACPI Host-PCI bridge port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0
pci0: ACPI PCI bus on pcib0
agp0: Intel 82845G host to AGP bridge on hostb0
pcib1: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 1.0 on pci0
pci1: ACPI PCI bus on pcib1
vgapci0: VGA-compatible display port 0xb000-0xb0ff mem 
0xd000-0xd7ff,0xffcf-0xffcf irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci1
uhci0: Intel 82801DB (ICH4) USB controller USB-A port 0xdf20-0xdf3f irq 16 at 
device 29.0 on pci0
uhci0: LegSup = 0x2f00
usbus0: Intel 82801DB (ICH4) USB controller USB-A on uhci0
uhci1: Intel 82801DB (ICH4) USB controller USB-B port 0xdf40-0xdf5f irq 19 at 
device 29.1 on pci0
uhci1: LegSup = 0x2f00
usbus1: Intel 82801DB (ICH4) USB controller USB-B on uhci1
uhci2: Intel 82801DB (ICH4) USB controller USB-C port 0xdf80-0xdf9f irq 18 at 
device 29.2 on pci0
uhci2: LegSup = 0x2f00
usbus2: Intel 82801DB (ICH4) USB controller USB-C on uhci2
ehci0: Intel 82801DB/L/M (ICH4) USB 2.0 controller mem 0xffeffc00-0xffef 
irq 23 at device 29.7 on pci0
usbus3: EHCI version 1.0
usbus3: Intel 82801DB/L/M (ICH4) USB 2.0 controller on ehci0
pcib2: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 30.0 on pci0
pci2: ACPI PCI bus on pcib2
cbb0: O2Micro OZ6912/6972 PCI-CardBus Bridge at device 3.0 on pci2
cardbus0: CardBus bus on cbb0
pccard0: 16-bit PCCard bus on cbb0
fwohci0: VIA Fire II (VT6306) port 0xcc00-0xcc7f mem 0xffdff800-0xffdf 
irq 18 at device 10.0 on pci2
fwohci0: OHCI version 1.10 (ROM=1)

Re: no keyboard after booting r235646 in laptop FS Amilo D 7830

2012-07-01 Thread Hans Petter Selasky
On Sunday 01 July 2012 01:29:28 Erich Dollansky wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On Saturday, June 30, 2012 10:11:31 PM Matthias Apitz wrote:
  El día Saturday, June 30, 2012 a las 01:49:58PM +0700, Erich Dollansky 
escribió:
   Can you try FreeBSD 7.4 or 8.3?
   
   It is sad to say but some times support for older hardware gets cut out
   for whatever reason.
  
  The IT guy of my company found this laptop in the attic and because
  it has no Wifi, nobody is interested in using it anymore. As I said,
  I could make use of it as a build machine and for this it must run
  CURRENT and no older versions. I will install the USB booted system to
  harddisk and hope when booted from disk and not from USB the keyboard is
  working.
 
 if 7.4 still runs but not anything after 8.0, it is most likely what I have
 written. Some USB hardware is not supported anymore in 8 and later.
 
 I would install the old one just to see  You will also know wat hwardware
 is used there and how it is supported.
 
 This might be the faster route before starting debugging something which is
 not there.
 
 Erich

Try to compare pciconf -lv and dmesg.

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Re: no keyboard after booting r235646 in laptop FS Amilo D 7830

2012-07-01 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi,

On Sunday, July 01, 2012 01:58:49 PM Matthias Apitz wrote:
 El día Sunday, July 01, 2012 a las 06:29:28AM +0700, Erich Dollansky escribió:
 
   and no older versions. I will install the USB booted system to harddisk
   and hope when booted from disk and not from USB the keyboard is working.
   
 
 I installed the system r235646 to disk and it shows the same problem: no
 keyboard;
 
ok.

  if 7.4 still runs but not anything after 8.0, it is most likely what I have 
  written. Some USB hardware is not supported anymore in 8 and later.
  
  I would install the old one just to see  You will also know wat hwardware 
  is used there and how it is supported.
  
  This might be the faster route before starting debugging something which is 
  not there.
 
 I said already that it works with a r21 version, CURRENT from
 October 2010; so I booted this again and concerning keyboard, here is
 the diff:

Of course, I have read it but forgot about it then.
 
 r21:
 
 atkbdc0: Keyboard controller (i8042) at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0
 
 r235646:
 
 $ fgrep -i kb /tmp/dmesg-r235646.txt 
 atkbd: the current kbd controller command byte 0065
 atkbd: keyboard ID 0x41ab (2)
 sc0: fb0, kbd1, terminal emulator: scteken (teken terminal)
 atkbdc0 failed to probe at port 0x60 on isa0

It must be the probing routine then. My keyboard here is at acpi but not on 
isa0.

Is all in the kernel which is needed for isa? It should be, but a check could 
help.

 So the question is: why the Keyboard controller (i8042) is not
 detected anymore in r235646, while it is in r21?
 
Maybe the hints from man will help you:

Kernel configuration:

 options KBD_RESETDELAY=N
 options KBD_MAXWAIT=N
 options KBDIO_DEBUG=N
 device atkbdc

Are they still there?

/boot/device.hints:

 hint.atkbdc.0.at=isa
 hint.atkbdc.0.port=0x060

I do not know if some defaults have changed.

Erich
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Re: no keyboard after booting r235646 in laptop FS Amilo D 7830

2012-06-30 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Friday, June 29, 2012 a las 04:45:57PM +0200, Hans Petter Selasky 
escribió:

 On Friday 29 June 2012 15:34:23 Matthias Apitz wrote:
  Hello,
  
  I have a boot-able USB key with r235646 which works fine in all my
  laptops so far; today I got as a gift an older FS Amilo D 7830 which has
  enough resources to use it as new build machine (1 GByte RAM, 80 GByte
  disk). I booted  it with from the USB key and after the system is up it
  does not echo or react on any key-press; before booting the keys are
  working, for example in the menu to boot into single user etc.
  
  What could be the problem?
  
  I will later configure that the USB booted system brings Ethernet and
  SSH up, maybe I can see something when I can login via SSH...

I have just for beeing curios booted an older USB key with r21
(from October 2010) and the keyboard just works as it should;

a ls -l /dev/kb* shows now:

/dev/kbd0 - atkbd0
/dev/kbd1 - kbdmux0
/dev/kbdmux0

the first line /dev/kbd0 - atkbd0 is not shown in r235646; don't know
if this has todo with the problem;

matthias

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Re: no keyboard after booting r235646 in laptop FS Amilo D 7830

2012-06-30 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi,

On Saturday, June 30, 2012 01:25:33 PM Matthias Apitz wrote:
 El día Friday, June 29, 2012 a las 04:45:57PM +0200, Hans Petter Selasky 
 escribió:
 
  On Friday 29 June 2012 15:34:23 Matthias Apitz wrote:
   Hello,
   
   I have a boot-able USB key with r235646 which works fine in all my
   laptops so far; today I got as a gift an older FS Amilo D 7830 which has
   enough resources to use it as new build machine (1 GByte RAM, 80 GByte
   disk). I booted  it with from the USB key and after the system is up it
   does not echo or react on any key-press; before booting the keys are
   working, for example in the menu to boot into single user etc.
   
   What could be the problem?
   
   I will later configure that the USB booted system brings Ethernet and
   SSH up, maybe I can see something when I can login via SSH...
 
 I have just for beeing curios booted an older USB key with r21
 (from October 2010) and the keyboard just works as it should;
 
I have had a problem like this before. I have had to stick with an older 
FreeBSD version on this machine.

Can you try FreeBSD 7.4 or 8.3?

It is sad to say but some times support for older hardware gets cut out for 
whatever reason.

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Re: no keyboard after booting r235646 in laptop FS Amilo D 7830

2012-06-30 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Saturday, June 30, 2012 a las 01:49:58PM +0700, Erich Dollansky escribió:

I have a boot-able USB key with r235646 which works fine in all my
laptops so far; today I got as a gift an older FS Amilo D 7830 which has
enough resources to use it as new build machine (1 GByte RAM, 80 GByte
disk). I booted  it with from the USB key and after the system is up it
does not echo or react on any key-press; before booting the keys are
working, for example in the menu to boot into single user etc.

What could be the problem?

I will later configure that the USB booted system brings Ethernet and
SSH up, maybe I can see something when I can login via SSH...
  
  I have just for beeing curios booted an older USB key with r21
  (from October 2010) and the keyboard just works as it should;
  
 I have had a problem like this before. I have had to stick with an older 
 FreeBSD version on this machine.
 
 Can you try FreeBSD 7.4 or 8.3?
 
 It is sad to say but some times support for older hardware gets cut out for 
 whatever reason.

The IT guy of my company found this laptop in the attic and because
it has no Wifi, nobody is interested in using it anymore. As I said,
I could make use of it as a build machine and for this it must run CURRENT
and no older versions. I will install the USB booted system to harddisk
and hope when booted from disk and not from USB the keyboard is working.

Ofc, I would be willing to help debugging this, for example compiling a
kernel with special options and/or debug printfs; but I can't start such
a debug path on my own, because I have no clue about where to start.

HIH

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Re: no keyboard after booting r235646 in laptop FS Amilo D 7830

2012-06-30 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi,

On Saturday, June 30, 2012 10:11:31 PM Matthias Apitz wrote:
 El día Saturday, June 30, 2012 a las 01:49:58PM +0700, Erich Dollansky 
 escribió:
 
  
  Can you try FreeBSD 7.4 or 8.3?
  
  It is sad to say but some times support for older hardware gets cut out for 
  whatever reason.
 
 The IT guy of my company found this laptop in the attic and because
 it has no Wifi, nobody is interested in using it anymore. As I said,
 I could make use of it as a build machine and for this it must run CURRENT
 and no older versions. I will install the USB booted system to harddisk
 and hope when booted from disk and not from USB the keyboard is working.
 
if 7.4 still runs but not anything after 8.0, it is most likely what I have 
written. Some USB hardware is not supported anymore in 8 and later.

I would install the old one just to see  You will also know wat hwardware is 
used there and how it is supported.

This might be the faster route before starting debugging something which is not 
there.

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no keyboard after booting r235646 in laptop FS Amilo D 7830

2012-06-29 Thread Matthias Apitz

Hello,

I have a boot-able USB key with r235646 which works fine in all my
laptops so far; today I got as a gift an older FS Amilo D 7830 which has
enough resources to use it as new build machine (1 GByte RAM, 80 GByte
disk). I booted  it with from the USB key and after the system is up it
does not echo or react on any key-press; before booting the keys are
working, for example in the menu to boot into single user etc.

What could be the problem? 

I will later configure that the USB booted system brings Ethernet and
SSH up, maybe I can see something when I can login via SSH...

matthias
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Re: no keyboard after booting r235646 in laptop FS Amilo D 7830

2012-06-29 Thread Hans Petter Selasky
On Friday 29 June 2012 15:34:23 Matthias Apitz wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I have a boot-able USB key with r235646 which works fine in all my
 laptops so far; today I got as a gift an older FS Amilo D 7830 which has
 enough resources to use it as new build machine (1 GByte RAM, 80 GByte
 disk). I booted  it with from the USB key and after the system is up it
 does not echo or react on any key-press; before booting the keys are
 working, for example in the menu to boot into single user etc.
 
 What could be the problem?
 
 I will later configure that the USB booted system brings Ethernet and
 SSH up, maybe I can see something when I can login via SSH...
 
   matthias

What does dmesg say about USB?

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Re: no keyboard after booting r235646 in laptop FS Amilo D 7830

2012-06-29 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Friday, June 29, 2012 a las 04:45:57PM +0200, Hans Petter Selasky 
escribió:

 On Friday 29 June 2012 15:34:23 Matthias Apitz wrote:
  Hello,
  
  I have a boot-able USB key with r235646 which works fine in all my
  laptops so far; today I got as a gift an older FS Amilo D 7830 which has
  enough resources to use it as new build machine (1 GByte RAM, 80 GByte
  disk). I booted  it with from the USB key and after the system is up it
  does not echo or react on any key-press; before booting the keys are
  working, for example in the menu to boot into single user etc.
  
  What could be the problem?
  
  I will later configure that the USB booted system brings Ethernet and
  SSH up, maybe I can see something when I can login via SSH...
  
  matthias
 
 What does dmesg say about USB?
 

attached is the dmesg output

matthias

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FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #0 r235646: Sat May 19 15:52:36 CEST 2012
g...@aurora.sisis.de:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386
WARNING: WITNESS option enabled, expect reduced performance.
CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz (2398.35-MHz 686-class CPU)
  Origin = GenuineIntel  Id = 0xf27  Family = f  Model = 2  Stepping = 7
  
Features=0xbfebfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE
  Features2=0x4400CNXT-ID,xTPR
real memory  = 1073741824 (1024 MB)
avail memory = 1027141632 (979 MB)
Event timer LAPIC quality 400
ACPI APIC Table: A M I  OEMAPIC 
ioapic0 Version 2.0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard
kbd1 at kbdmux0
ctl: CAM Target Layer loaded
acpi0: A M I OEMRSDT on motherboard
acpi0: Power Button (fixed)
acpi0: reservation of 0, a (3) failed
acpi0: reservation of 10, 3ff0 (3) failed
driver bug: Unable to set devclass (class: acpi_sysresource devname: (unknown))
driver bug: Unable to set devclass (class: acpi_timer devname: (unknown))
cpu0: ACPI CPU on acpi0
attimer0: AT timer port 0x40-0x43 irq 0 on acpi0
Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
Event timer i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 100
atrtc0: AT realtime clock port 0x70-0x71 irq 8 on acpi0
Event timer RTC frequency 32768 Hz quality 0
Timecounter ACPI-fast frequency 3579545 Hz quality 900
acpi_timer0: 24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz port 0x408-0x40b on acpi0
acpi_ec0: Embedded Controller: GPE 0x1c port 0x62,0x66 on acpi0
pcib0: ACPI Host-PCI bridge port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0
pci0: ACPI PCI bus on pcib0
agp0: Intel 82845G host to AGP bridge on hostb0
pcib1: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 1.0 on pci0
pci1: ACPI PCI bus on pcib1
vgapci0: VGA-compatible display port 0xb000-0xb0ff mem 
0xd000-0xd7ff,0xffcf-0xffcf irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci1
uhci0: Intel 82801DB (ICH4) USB controller USB-A port 0xdf20-0xdf3f irq 16 at 
device 29.0 on pci0
uhci0: LegSup = 0x2f00
usbus0 on uhci0
uhci1: Intel 82801DB (ICH4) USB controller USB-B port 0xdf40-0xdf5f irq 19 at 
device 29.1 on pci0
uhci1: LegSup = 0x2f00
usbus1 on uhci1
uhci2: Intel 82801DB (ICH4) USB controller USB-C port 0xdf80-0xdf9f irq 18 at 
device 29.2 on pci0
uhci2: LegSup = 0x2f00
usbus2 on uhci2
ehci0: Intel 82801DB/L/M (ICH4) USB 2.0 controller mem 0xffeffc00-0xffef 
irq 23 at device 29.7 on pci0
usbus3: EHCI version 1.0
usbus3 on ehci0
pcib2: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 30.0 on pci0
pci2: ACPI PCI bus on pcib2
cbb0: O2Micro OZ6912/6972 PCI-CardBus Bridge at device 3.0 on pci2
cardbus0: CardBus bus on cbb0
pccard0: 16-bit PCCard bus on cbb0
fwohci0: VIA Fire II (VT6306) port 0xcc00-0xcc7f mem 0xffdff800-0xffdf 
irq 18 at device 10.0 on pci2
fwohci0: OHCI version 1.10 (ROM=1)
fwohci0: No. of Isochronous channels is 4.
fwohci0: EUI64 00:03:0d:49:75:50:7a:e8
fwohci0: Phy 1394a available S400, 2 ports.
fwohci0: Link S400, max_rec 2048 bytes.
firewire0: IEEE1394(FireWire) bus on fwohci0
dcons_crom0: dcons configuration ROM on firewire0
dcons_crom0: bus_addr 0x29b8000
fwe0: Ethernet over FireWire on firewire0
if_fwe0: Fake Ethernet address: 02:03:0d:50:7a:e8
fwe0: Ethernet address: 02:03:0d:50:7a:e8
fwip0: IP over FireWire on firewire0
fwip0: Firewire address: 00:03:0d:49:75:50:7a:e8 @ 0xfffe, S400, maxrec 
2048
fwohci0: Initiate bus reset
fwohci0: fwohci_intr_core: BUS reset
fwohci0: fwohci_intr_core: node_id=0x, SelfID Count=1, CYCLEMASTER mode
sis0: NatSemi DP8381[56] 10/100BaseTX port 0xc800-0xc8ff mem 
0xffdfe000-0xffdfefff irq 17 at device 12.0 on pci2
sis0: Silicon Revision: DP83816A
miibus0: MII bus on sis0
nsphyter0: DP83815 10/100 

Re: no keyboard after booting r235646 in laptop FS Amilo D 7830

2012-06-29 Thread Hans Petter Selasky
On Saturday 30 June 2012 06:43:16 Matthias Apitz wrote:
 El día Friday, June 29, 2012 a las 04:45:57PM +0200, Hans Petter Selasky 
escribió:
  On Friday 29 June 2012 15:34:23 Matthias Apitz wrote:
   Hello,
   
   I have a boot-able USB key with r235646 which works fine in all my
   laptops so far; today I got as a gift an older FS Amilo D 7830 which
   has enough resources to use it as new build machine (1 GByte RAM, 80
   GByte disk). I booted  it with from the USB key and after the system
   is up it does not echo or react on any key-press; before booting the
   keys are working, for example in the menu to boot into single user
   etc.
   
   What could be the problem?
   
   I will later configure that the USB booted system brings Ethernet and
   SSH up, maybe I can see something when I can login via SSH...
   
 matthias
  
  What does dmesg say about USB?
 
 attached is the dmesg output
 
   matthias

Hi,

Can you try to play with USB settings in the BIOS?

You can also try to compile a kernel with options USB_DEBUG, and 
hw.usb.uhub.debug=15.

I don't see any errors in the dmesg. Maybe there are some magick bits that 
needs to be tweaked.

Also try to put an external high speed hub in between.

--HPS
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