Re: [HEADS-UP] Quick update to 14.0-RELEASE schedule

2023-11-17 Thread The Doctor
On Fri, Nov 17, 2023 at 11:00:07AM +0100, Olivier Certner wrote: > Hi Glen, > > > I also agree we cannot prevent people from downloading the images, > > installers, whatever before the announcement. That is the lovely race > > condition with which we have to live at the moment. > > Yes, and

Re: [HEADS-UP] Quick update to 14.0-RELEASE schedule

2023-11-17 Thread Jamie Landeg-Jones
Glen Barber wrote: > No. It merely suggests the release is not officially official yet. Ok. Thanks for the clarification. Jamie.

Re: [HEADS-UP] Quick update to 14.0-RELEASE schedule

2023-11-17 Thread Olivier Certner
Hi Glen, > I also agree we cannot prevent people from downloading the images, > installers, whatever before the announcement. That is the lovely race > condition with which we have to live at the moment. Yes, and given that, I don't think you did anything wrong. It seems that the race is the

Re: [HEADS-UP] Quick update to 14.0-RELEASE schedule

2023-11-16 Thread Glen Barber
On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 09:22:52PM +, Jamie Landeg-Jones wrote: > > Ok. I do not know what exactly is your point, but releases are never > > official until there is a PGP-signed email sent. The email is intended > > for the general public of consumers of official releases, not "yeah, > >

Re: [HEADS-UP] Quick update to 14.0-RELEASE schedule

2023-11-16 Thread Jamie Landeg-Jones
> Ok. I do not know what exactly is your point, but releases are never > official until there is a PGP-signed email sent. The email is intended > for the general public of consumers of official releases, not "yeah, > but"s. Foe a recent new build, I just went to the ftp site to grab the latest

Re: [HEADS-UP] Quick update to 14.0-RELEASE schedule

2023-11-16 Thread The Doctor
On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 12:07:36AM -0500, Glen Barber wrote: > And if there is a reason to reissue a release, the update will reflect such. > > So to answer your latter question, yes. Unless it needs to be replaced. > > Glen > Sent from my phone. > Please excuse my brevity and/or typos. > > >

Re: [HEADS-UP] Quick update to 14.0-RELEASE schedule

2023-11-15 Thread Glen Barber
And if there is a reason to reissue a release, the update will reflect such. So to answer your latter question, yes. Unless it needs to be replaced. Glen Sent from my phone. Please excuse my brevity and/or typos. > On Nov 15, 2023, at 11:38 PM, The Doctor wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at

Re: [HEADS-UP] Quick update to 14.0-RELEASE schedule

2023-11-15 Thread Glen Barber
Thank you for that. Glen Sent from my phone. Please excuse my brevity and/or typos. > On Nov 15, 2023, at 11:17 PM, Rich Reynolds wrote: > > On 11/15/23 20:19, Pete Wright wrote: >>> On 11/15/23 16:30, Glen Barber wrote: >>> The alternative would be to say nothing at all. >>> >>> Either way,

Re: [HEADS-UP] Quick update to 14.0-RELEASE schedule

2023-11-15 Thread The Doctor
On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 12:30:30AM +, Glen Barber wrote: > On Wed, Nov 15, 2023 at 08:39:39AM -0800, John Baldwin wrote: > > On 11/14/23 8:52 PM, Glen Barber wrote: > > > On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 08:10:23PM -0700, The Doctor wrote: > > > > On Wed, Nov 15, 2023 at 02:27:01AM +, Glen Barber

Re: [HEADS-UP] Quick update to 14.0-RELEASE schedule

2023-11-15 Thread Glen Barber
On Wed, Nov 15, 2023 at 07:19:39PM -0800, Pete Wright wrote: > > > On 11/15/23 16:30, Glen Barber wrote: > > The alternative would be to say nothing at all. > > > > Either way, it is a productivity, communication drain. It is > > a lose-lose situation no matter how one looks at it given the

Re: [HEADS-UP] Quick update to 14.0-RELEASE schedule

2023-11-15 Thread Pete Wright
On 11/15/23 16:30, Glen Barber wrote: The alternative would be to say nothing at all. Either way, it is a productivity, communication drain. It is a lose-lose situation no matter how one looks at it given the above context. We either get chastised for being "too open" into insights delaying

Re: [HEADS-UP] Quick update to 14.0-RELEASE schedule

2023-11-15 Thread Glen Barber
On Wed, Nov 15, 2023 at 08:39:39AM -0800, John Baldwin wrote: > On 11/14/23 8:52 PM, Glen Barber wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 08:10:23PM -0700, The Doctor wrote: > > > On Wed, Nov 15, 2023 at 02:27:01AM +, Glen Barber wrote: > > > > On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 05:15:48PM -0700, The Doctor

Re: [HEADS-UP] Quick update to 14.0-RELEASE schedule

2023-11-15 Thread John Baldwin
On 11/14/23 8:52 PM, Glen Barber wrote: On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 08:10:23PM -0700, The Doctor wrote: On Wed, Nov 15, 2023 at 02:27:01AM +, Glen Barber wrote: On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 05:15:48PM -0700, The Doctor wrote: On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 08:36:54PM +, Glen Barber wrote: We are

Re: [HEADS-UP] Quick update to 14.0-RELEASE schedule

2023-11-15 Thread Glen Barber
Well, today is your yesterday, so we might not be ready for another more tomorrows your time, yesterdays, my time. Or something. Glen Sent from my phone. Please excuse my brevity and/or typos. > On Nov 15, 2023, at 2:39 AM, matti k wrote: > > On Wed, 15 Nov 2023 04:52:31 + > Glen Barber

Re: [HEADS-UP] Quick update to 14.0-RELEASE schedule

2023-11-14 Thread matti k
On Wed, 15 Nov 2023 04:52:31 + Glen Barber wrote: > > > Ok. I do not know what exactly is your point, but releases are > > > never official until there is a PGP-signed email sent. The email > > > is intended for the general public of consumers of official > > > releases, not "yeah, but"s.

Re: [HEADS-UP] Quick update to 14.0-RELEASE schedule

2023-11-14 Thread Glen Barber
On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 08:10:23PM -0700, The Doctor wrote: > On Wed, Nov 15, 2023 at 02:27:01AM +, Glen Barber wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 05:15:48PM -0700, The Doctor wrote: > > > On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 08:36:54PM +, Glen Barber wrote: > > > > We are still waiting for a few

Re: [HEADS-UP] Quick update to 14.0-RELEASE schedule

2023-11-14 Thread The Doctor
On Wed, Nov 15, 2023 at 02:27:01AM +, Glen Barber wrote: > On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 05:15:48PM -0700, The Doctor wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 08:36:54PM +, Glen Barber wrote: > > > We are still waiting for a few (non-critical) things to complete before > > > the announcement of

Re: [HEADS-UP] Quick update to 14.0-RELEASE schedule

2023-11-14 Thread Glen Barber
On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 05:15:48PM -0700, The Doctor wrote: > On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 08:36:54PM +, Glen Barber wrote: > > We are still waiting for a few (non-critical) things to complete before > > the announcement of 14.0-RELEASE will be ready. > > > > It should only be another day or so

Re: [HEADS-UP] Quick update to 14.0-RELEASE schedule

2023-11-14 Thread The Doctor
On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 08:36:54PM +, Glen Barber wrote: > We are still waiting for a few (non-critical) things to complete before > the announcement of 14.0-RELEASE will be ready. > > It should only be another day or so before these things complete. > > Thank you for your understanding. >

[HEADS-UP] Quick update to 14.0-RELEASE schedule

2023-11-14 Thread Glen Barber
We are still waiting for a few (non-critical) things to complete before the announcement of 14.0-RELEASE will be ready. It should only be another day or so before these things complete. Thank you for your understanding. Glen On behalf of: re@ signature.asc Description: PGP signature