Re: 5.2-RELEASE TODO -2

2003-09-02 Thread Doug Barton
On Mon, 1 Sep 2003, Nicole wrote:

  It just drives me crazy when important things get broken and people
 act like..  What the big deal. I don't need it why should you?

You're certainly free to draw that conclusion, however you'd be
mistaken. There are times when adding new features means that things
change. That's life in a volunteer project. If this isn't to your
liking, feel free to move on, or get to work restoring functionality
that you think is important. Either way, you need to dial down the
rhetoric quite a bit if you expect people to help you.

  I still have not solved the going to comsonsole mode if there is no
 keyboard detected crap, new feature.  Yea great for those who could
 benifit from it.. But I have YET to have one person be able to show me
 how to STOP it from doing that.

Remove the 0x01 flag from the atkbd0 line in your kernel config.


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Re: 5.2-RELEASE TODO -2

2003-09-02 Thread Nicole

On 02-Sep-03 Unnamed Administration sources reported Doug Barton said :
 On Mon, 1 Sep 2003, Nicole wrote:
 
  It just drives me crazy when important things get broken and people
 act like..  What the big deal. I don't need it why should you?
 
 You're certainly free to draw that conclusion, however you'd be
 mistaken. There are times when adding new features means that things
 change. That's life in a volunteer project. If this isn't to your
 liking, feel free to move on, or get to work restoring functionality
 that you think is important. Either way, you need to dial down the
 rhetoric quite a bit if you expect people to help you.

 Sorry I didn't mean to be so testy I guess would discribe it. It's an old
issue for me. Every so often I try asking for help with it, and its usually the
response I get :(  So you are correct. I am infolving old feelings etc when I
shoudl not be. Sorry.

  I still have not solved the going to comsonsole mode if there is no
 keyboard detected crap, new feature.  Yea great for those who could
 benifit from it.. But I have YET to have one person be able to show me
 how to STOP it from doing that.
 
 Remove the 0x01 flag from the atkbd0 line in your kernel config.

 I will give that a shot. Thats certainly different than abyone else has
suggested.  In my 5.1 system I see this in my .hints file. So I assume I edit
it there or do I treat it like a defaults file and import and change in in my
config file?

 Thanks for the assist !


 Nicole




 
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Re: 5.2-RELEASE TODO -2

2003-09-02 Thread Doug Barton
On Mon, 1 Sep 2003, Nicole wrote:

  Sorry I didn't mean to be so testy I guess would discribe it. It's
 an old issue for me.

Not to put too fine a point on it, but I've seen numerous posts from
you, on several topics, all of them berating people for not giving you
what you want, when you wanted it. I tend to ignore posts from you for
just this reason.

  Remove the 0x01 flag from the atkbd0 line in your kernel config.

  I will give that a shot. Thats certainly different than abyone else has
 suggested.

That's because they didn't understand the problem you were trying to
solve.

 In my 5.1 system I see this in my .hints file. So I assume I edit it
 there or do I treat it like a defaults file and import and change in
 in my config file?

I didn't say anything about your hints file. You need to edit your
kernel config file, build a new kernel, then reboot. If any of that is
confusing to you, please follow up on freebsd-questions, since people
running -current are assumed to have that base of knowledge.

Hope this helps,

Doug

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Re: 5.2-RELEASE TODO -2

2003-09-02 Thread Scott Long
Doug Barton wrote:
On Mon, 1 Sep 2003, Nicole wrote:
In my 5.1 system I see this in my .hints file. So I assume I edit it
there or do I treat it like a defaults file and import and change in
in my config file?


I didn't say anything about your hints file. You need to edit your
kernel config file, build a new kernel, then reboot. If any of that is
confusing to you, please follow up on freebsd-questions, since people
running -current are assumed to have that base of knowledge.
Hope this helps,

Doug

Device flags are not specified in the kernel config anymore unless you
try really, really hard.  /etc/device.hints is the correct place to
adjust this flag.
Scott

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Re: 5.2-RELEASE TODO -2

2003-09-02 Thread Scott Long
Scott Long wrote:
Doug Barton wrote:

On Mon, 1 Sep 2003, Nicole wrote:

In my 5.1 system I see this in my .hints file. So I assume I edit it
there or do I treat it like a defaults file and import and change in
in my config file?


I didn't say anything about your hints file. You need to edit your
kernel config file, build a new kernel, then reboot. If any of that is
confusing to you, please follow up on freebsd-questions, since people
running -current are assumed to have that base of knowledge.
Hope this helps,

Doug

Device flags are not specified in the kernel config anymore unless you
try really, really hard.  /etc/device.hints is the correct place to
adjust this flag.
Scott

Of course I mean '/boot/device.hints' =-)

Scott

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Re: 5.2-RELEASE TODO -2

2003-09-02 Thread Doug Barton
On Mon, 1 Sep 2003, Scott Long wrote:

 Device flags are not specified in the kernel config anymore unless you
 try really, really hard.  /etc/device.hints is the correct place to
 adjust this flag.

Yeah, I was looking at the kernel config on the wrong box. This flag did
used to be in GENERIC, so it's worth double-checking the kernel config
anyway just to be sure, but it should definitely be updated in
/boot/device.hints if it's there.

Sorry for the confusion,

Doug

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Re: 5.2-RELEASE TODO -2

2003-09-01 Thread Nicole

 BTW - I do thank you Marc for your advice. I know you were trying to assist. 

 It just drives me crazy when important things get broken and people act like.. 
What the big deal. I don't need it why should you?

 I still have not solved the going to comsonsole mode if there is no keyboard
detected crap, new feature.  Yea great for those who could benifit from it..
But I have YET to have one person be able to show me how to STOP it from doing
that. Why??? gosh why?? Becouse I don't want serial console and I don't have a
keyboard on every server. So if I walk into the datacenter and try to access a
server that has been rebooted.. I'm screwed! I have to ssh from some other
server that has not been rebooted and if I NEED console.. then I have to reb
oot the server. That detrimeature still has me pissed and the people I do work
for scratching their head wanting to know why I install such a broken OS.
 They don't know and can't directly see the good things... managers and clients
can only see it when you have to strugle to do something that should not be so
obtuse.

 

  Nicole


On 01-Sep-03 Unnamed Administration sources reported Marc G. Fournier said :
 
 
 On Mon, 1 Sep 2003, Nicole wrote:
 

  So are you saying it Will work in single user mode perhaps? (drives in use)

  or are you saying gee we have this nice new version that if you need to
 modify any disk slice you did after an install your screwed into going
 back to caveman tools (which I admit I have NO IDEA how to use and I bet
 many others don't as well.)
 
 Ummm ... if you are talking about something that I just went through, why
 can't you just boot up off the floppies and do the reconfig from there?



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