Re: ATAng - copying atapi CD
On Thu, Sep 04, 2003 at 07:59:36AM -0400, Bryan Liesner wrote: On Wed, 3 Sep 2003, Terry Lambert wrote: Bryan Liesner wrote: On Wed, 3 Sep 2003, Martin wrote: If you notice that your CD-R label looks strange and if you need the data, you should backup it fast. No, we're talking about brand new, factory pressed, audio CDs. Are they copy protected? The way you can tell is if you try to do what you are trying to do, and it fails the way that it's failing, then they are likely copy protected. Possible, but if they are protected, wouldn't I be prevented from copying any track, or do they pick a random track or two just to piss me off? The last tracks are sometimes data tracks. The tools that use the scsi emulation seem to handle those better. aha ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ATAng - copying atapi CD
Bryan Liesner wrote: On Wed, 3 Sep 2003, Martin wrote: If you notice that your CD-R label looks strange and if you need the data, you should backup it fast. No, we're talking about brand new, factory pressed, audio CDs. Are they copy protected? The way you can tell is if you try to do what you are trying to do, and it fails the way that it's failing, then they are likely copy protected. -- Terry ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ATAng - copying atapi CD
Sean Kelly wrote: On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 07:11:53AM -0400, Bryan Liesner wrote: No, we're talking about brand new, factory pressed, audio CDs. And on top of that, my Windows XP machine's DVD-ROM was able to raed my *commercial audio CDs* perfectly while the CD-RW in the FreeBSD machine was only able to read about 95% of the discs before it just got stuck. What happens if you install the same DVD-ROM drive in your FreeBSD box, and try that? Maybe it's your drive? -- Terry ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ATAng - copying atapi CD
On Wed, 3 Sep 2003, Terry Lambert wrote: Bryan Liesner wrote: On Wed, 3 Sep 2003, Martin wrote: If you notice that your CD-R label looks strange and if you need the data, you should backup it fast. No, we're talking about brand new, factory pressed, audio CDs. Are they copy protected? The way you can tell is if you try to do what you are trying to do, and it fails the way that it's failing, then they are likely copy protected. Possible, but if they are protected, wouldn't I be prevented from copying any track, or do they pick a random track or two just to piss me off? ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ATAng - copying atapi CD
Soren Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can you play those discs in your cd-rw drive ? Is this a useful test after all? Most drives go down to 1x playing audio, which is nowhere near 52x or what's current nowadays. -- Matthias Andree Encrypt your mail: my GnuPG key ID is 0x052E7D95 ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ATAng - copying atapi CD
On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 07:11:53AM -0400, Bryan Liesner wrote: On Wed, 3 Sep 2003, Martin wrote: Am Di, 2003-09-02 um 18.56 schrieb Bryan Liesner: dd then gets slower and slower until it seems to grind to a halt. I have this problems everywhere (not only ATAng), if I'm trying to read some of my really old CD-Rs. You should know that they are aging. Check the surface of the CD-R (the surface is actually the label!). On few CD-Rs which have been in my car the label begins to break in the outter areas. This can have several reasons: - too much UV light (sun) - too high humidity - and also touching the CD-R on the outter area while holding it If you notice that your CD-R label looks strange and if you need the data, you should backup it fast. No, we're talking about brand new, factory pressed, audio CDs. And on top of that, my Windows XP machine's DVD-ROM was able to raed my *commercial audio CDs* perfectly while the CD-RW in the FreeBSD machine was only able to read about 95% of the discs before it just got stuck. -- Sean Kelly | PGP KeyID: D2E5E296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.sean-kelly.org/ ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ATAng - copying atapi CD
It seems Sean Kelly wrote: I have this problems everywhere (not only ATAng), if I'm trying to read some of my really old CD-Rs. You should know that they are aging. Check the surface of the CD-R (the surface is actually the label!). On few CD-Rs which have been in my car the label begins to break in the outter areas. This can have several reasons: - too much UV light (sun) - too high humidity - and also touching the CD-R on the outter area while holding it If you notice that your CD-R label looks strange and if you need the data, you should backup it fast. No, we're talking about brand new, factory pressed, audio CDs. And on top of that, my Windows XP machine's DVD-ROM was able to raed my *commercial audio CDs* perfectly while the CD-RW in the FreeBSD machine was only able to read about 95% of the discs before it just got stuck. Can you play those discs in your cd-rw drive ? -Søren ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ATAng - copying atapi CD
On Wed, 3 Sep 2003, Soren Schmidt wrote: No, we're talking about brand new, factory pressed, audio CDs. And on top of that, my Windows XP machine's DVD-ROM was able to raed my *commercial audio CDs* perfectly while the CD-RW in the FreeBSD machine was only able to read about 95% of the discs before it just got stuck. Can you play those discs in your cd-rw drive ? I can play the discs, but, I didn't play one from start to finish. I'll give it a try later. -Bryan ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ATAng - copying atapi CD
I have a perl script that dd's each audio track from an audio cd. The tracks are copied just fine until it gets about 75% into a 70 minute cd. dd then gets slower and slower until it seems to grind to a halt. eventually, I'll set TIMEOUT messages and won't be able to kill the current dd process. Same results with DMA or PIO modes. Shorter (40 minute) CDs make it through the process OK. Soren's crdao 1.1.7 for ATAng also grinds to a halt when copying a cd. -- = = Bryan D. LiesnerLeezSoft Communications, Inc. = = A subsidiary of LeezSoft Inc. = = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home of the Gipper= = ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ATAng - copying atapi CD
On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 12:56:24PM -0400, Bryan Liesner wrote: I have a perl script that dd's each audio track from an audio cd. The tracks are copied just fine until it gets about 75% into a 70 minute cd. dd then gets slower and slower until it seems to grind to a halt. eventually, I'll set TIMEOUT messages and won't be able to kill the current dd process. Same results with DMA or PIO modes. Shorter (40 minute) CDs make it through the process OK. Soren's crdao 1.1.7 for ATAng also grinds to a halt when copying a cd. I saw this on ATAold as well, using cdparanoia, dd, dagrab, etc. I just chalked it up to my drive being stupid, though it did it on several audio discs. So, maybe it isn't me after all? I don't recall seeing any timeout messages, though. And when I say ATAold, I mean ATAold from a week or so before the ATAng commit. -- Sean Kelly | PGP KeyID: D2E5E296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.sean-kelly.org/ ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ATAng - copying atapi CD
It seems Sean Kelly wrote: I have a perl script that dd's each audio track from an audio cd. The tracks are copied just fine until it gets about 75% into a 70 minute cd. dd then gets slower and slower until it seems to grind to a halt. eventually, I'll set TIMEOUT messages and won't be able to kill the current dd process. Same results with DMA or PIO modes. Shorter (40 minute) CDs make it through the process OK. Soren's crdao 1.1.7 for ATAng also grinds to a halt when copying a cd. I saw this on ATAold as well, using cdparanoia, dd, dagrab, etc. I just chalked it up to my drive being stupid, though it did it on several audio discs. So, maybe it isn't me after all? I don't recall seeing any timeout messages, though. And when I say ATAold, I mean ATAold from a week or so before the ATAng commit. I just test a couble of audio CD's on tre different ATAPI drives, I didn't see any slowdown at all. I think this can be both because of the drive as well as the media.. -Søren ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ATAng - copying atapi CD
Am Di, 2003-09-02 um 18.56 schrieb Bryan Liesner: dd then gets slower and slower until it seems to grind to a halt. I have this problems everywhere (not only ATAng), if I'm trying to read some of my really old CD-Rs. You should know that they are aging. Check the surface of the CD-R (the surface is actually the label!). On few CD-Rs which have been in my car the label begins to break in the outter areas. This can have several reasons: - too much UV light (sun) - too high humidity - and also touching the CD-R on the outter area while holding it If you notice that your CD-R label looks strange and if you need the data, you should backup it fast. Martin ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
