Re: Bazaaring the cathedral (Lowering the Barrier to Entry)

2015-04-03 Thread Julian Elischer
On 4/2/15 6:28 PM, Hans Petter Selasky wrote: I hope this is not one more of those April fools :-) yep --HPS ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to

Re: Bazaaring the cathedral (Lowering the Barrier to Entry)

2015-04-02 Thread Hans Petter Selasky
On 04/01/15 18:55, Eitan Adler wrote: One of the key reasons for the lack of people is the high barrier of entry to joining the FreeBSD project. While every modern project uses git (usually hosted on github), FreeBSD uses self-hosted subversion. The use of git goes beyond just the choice of

Re: Bazaaring the cathedral (Lowering the Barrier to Entry)

2015-04-02 Thread Marcin Cieslak
On Wed, 1 Apr 2015, Eitan Adler wrote: Hi all, One of the key reasons for the lack of people is the high barrier of entry to joining the FreeBSD project. While every modern project uses git (usually hosted on github), As much as I love github - please try to go to

Re: Bazaaring the cathedral (Lowering the Barrier to Entry)

2015-04-02 Thread Royce Williams
On Apr 2, 2015 9:44 AM, Chris H bsd-li...@bsdforge.com wrote: IMHO I believe that the height of the bar, is directly proportionate to the quality of the product. We were all new once. There are many reasons - language, social fluidity, economic background, etc. - for which a too-high initial

Re: Bazaaring the cathedral (Lowering the Barrier to Entry)

2015-04-02 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 4/2/15 6:53 AM, Julian H. Stacey wrote: Hans Petter Selasky wrote: I hope this is not one more of those April fools :-) I've been thinking that since Eitan's first post of Wed, 1 Apr 2015 09:55:11 -0700 (18:55 CEST) self-serve commit access I kept wondering what would keep

Re: Bazaaring the cathedral (Lowering the Barrier to Entry)

2015-04-02 Thread Hans Petter Selasky
I hope this is not one more of those April fools :-) --HPS ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org

Re: Bazaaring the cathedral (Lowering the Barrier to Entry)

2015-04-02 Thread Fernando ApesteguĆ­a
El 02/04/2015 11:03, Hans Petter Selasky h...@selasky.org escribiĆ³: On 04/01/15 18:55, Eitan Adler wrote: One of the key reasons for the lack of people is the high barrier of entry to joining the FreeBSD project. While every modern project uses git (usually hosted on github), FreeBSD uses

Re: Bazaaring the cathedral (Lowering the Barrier to Entry)

2015-04-02 Thread Samuel Cassiba
Eitan, This being posted on April 1 sets off my BS-o-meter, but I'll bite since it's a topic worth shaving a yak or two over. WARNING: there be perceptions and opinions here Having been ephemerally associated with FreeBSD since early 4.x, I never really saw FreeBSD as being cathedral-like, but

Re: Bazaaring the cathedral (Lowering the Barrier to Entry)

2015-04-02 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Hans Petter Selasky wrote: I hope this is not one more of those April fools :-) I've been thinking that since Eitan's first post of Wed, 1 Apr 2015 09:55:11 -0700 (18:55 CEST) self-serve commit access I kept wondering what would keep looneys out ? :-) Your experience feeding

Re: Bazaaring the cathedral (Lowering the Barrier to Entry)

2015-04-02 Thread B. Estrade
Joke or not, it's worth pointing out that while DragonFlyBSD's approach seems to be a fairly sane hybrid; there is no reason this can't be done within FreeBSD right now. https://www.dragonflybsd.org/docs/developer/TypicalGitUsage/ Anyone can clone, but if you can't commit to the repo then you're

Re: Bazaaring the cathedral (Lowering the Barrier to Entry)

2015-04-02 Thread Chris H
On Thu, 2 Apr 2015 08:20:57 -0700 Samuel Cassiba s...@cassiba.com wrote Eitan, This being posted on April 1 sets off my BS-o-meter, but I'll bite since it's a topic worth shaving a yak or two over. WARNING: there be perceptions and opinions here Having been ephemerally associated with

Re: Bazaaring the cathedral (Lowering the Barrier to Entry)

2015-04-01 Thread Andriy Gapon
On 01/04/2015 19:55, Eitan Adler wrote: To solve this problem I propose a simple solution: self-serve commit access. We create a web service on accounts.freebsd.org via which users can create themselves a freefall account. In addition to a freefall account, the identical username would be

Bazaaring the cathedral (Lowering the Barrier to Entry)

2015-04-01 Thread Eitan Adler
Hi all, FreeBSD today has a significant problem of attracting new developers. The lack of new developers manifests itself in a dearth of driver support, inadequate documentation, and trailing third party packages. One of the key reasons for the lack of people is the high barrier of entry to

Re: Bazaaring the cathedral (Lowering the Barrier to Entry)

2015-04-01 Thread Craig Rodrigues
On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 9:55 AM, Eitan Adler li...@eitanadler.com wrote: To solve this problem I propose a simple solution: self-serve commit access. We create a web service on accounts.freebsd.org via which users can create themselves a freefall account. In addition to a freefall account,

Re: Bazaaring the cathedral (Lowering the Barrier to Entry)

2015-04-01 Thread Adrian Chadd
You mean, like sourceforge offered in 2000? :) -a ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org