Re: Need to trim the disc1 packages
On Sat, 29 Nov 2003, Scott Long wrote: All, We are badly overflowing the disc1 release ISO with packages, and need to trim it down. One package that could easily get axed is the linux-netscape-communicator package. I concur with that. For those of us who use linux netscape for whatever reason (like me), the linux installer for netscape 7, available on netscape's site, works just fine. Doug -- This .signature sanitized for your protection ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Need to trim the disc1 packages
- IMO, Don't include netscape, mozilla or opera. KDE includes Konqueror and GNOME has Nautilus(1/2). That's enough to get someone up and running and let them get to www.freebsd.org to see how to install something else. I do use neither KDE nor GNOME. At least keep one mozilla (or Opera, it doesn't matter). The Linux binaries could be dropped on disc1, though. But I just realise that I install over FTP most of the time anyway... - I'd say (x)emacs could go as well. However, a lot of people learning UNIX use this as their first real (aka powerful) editor (sorry PiCo/nEdit just can't compare). I personally like vi/vim/gvim so I might be biased. I think people expect to see (X)Emacs on an install disc of a unix-like OS. Regards, Julian -- Join the Group Mind -- become a Borg. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Need to trim the disc1 packages
All, We are badly overflowing the disc1 release ISO with packages, and need to trim it down. One package that could easily get axed is the linux-netscape-communicator package. It is 17MB in size, and is of questionable value since it is severely out of date. Does anyone still rely on it, or can I safely remove it? It's only value seemed to be it's ability to run old linux-specific browser plugins. If I remove it, it will still be available from the FTP site, just not on disc1. Thanks, Scott ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Need to trim the disc1 packages
* Scott Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] [031129 15:55] wrote: All, We are badly overflowing the disc1 release ISO with packages, and need to trim it down. One package that could easily get axed is the linux-netscape-communicator package. It is 17MB in size, and is of questionable value since it is severely out of date. Does anyone still rely on it, or can I safely remove it? It's only value seemed to be it's ability to run old linux-specific browser plugins. If I remove it, it will still be available from the FTP site, just not on disc1. Uh, it's really stable and useable expecially on older machines, it'd be nice to have it easily accessable. That said I'm not going to fight for it, but perhaps you can find a bunch of less visible or more bloated (*cough*emacs*cough*) packages to ditch. :) -- - Alfred Perlstein - Research Engineering Development Inc. - email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cell: 408-480-4684 ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Need to trim the disc1 packages
On Sat, Nov 29, 2003 at 04:03:20PM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: * Scott Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] [031129 15:55] wrote: All, We are badly overflowing the disc1 release ISO with packages, and need to trim it down. One package that could easily get axed is the linux-netscape-communicator package. It is 17MB in size, and is of questionable value since it is severely out of date. Does anyone still rely on it, or can I safely remove it? It's only value seemed to be it's ability to run old linux-specific browser plugins. If I remove it, it will still be available from the FTP site, just not on disc1. Uh, it's really stable and useable expecially on older machines, it'd be nice to have it easily accessable. That said I'm not going to fight for it, but perhaps you can find a bunch of less visible or more bloated (*cough*emacs*cough*) packages to ditch. :) Please make concrete suggestions by looking at the print-cdrom-packages script and the sizes of the packages on ftp.freebsd.org. Kris pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Need to trim the disc1 packages
Kris Kennaway said: Please make concrete suggestions by looking at the print-cdrom-packages script and the sizes of the packages on ftp.freebsd.org. Kris My recommendations to remove: gimp-1.2.5 gimp-print-4.2.5 tcl-8.3.5_2 ; Why are there 2 TCL packages? tcl-8.4.4_1,1 is also included, keep the one. linux-netscape-communicator-4.8 mozilla-1.5_1,2 netscape-remote-1.0_1 netscape-wrapper-2000.07.07 opera-7.23.20031119 xearth-1.1 pilot-link-0.11.7_2 xpdf-2.03 or acroread-5.08 Notes: - I'd say get rid of the big boys like GNOME and KDE. I'd say keep one or the other but that might cause a political battle. The only other option is both or none. - Why is gimp on the CD anyway? That doesn't really seem like an app you need to get a system up and running. - I'm guessing the 2 TCLs are included because some apps aren't compatible with one or need the other. - IMO, Don't include netscape, mozilla or opera. KDE includes Konqueror and GNOME has Nautilus(1/2). That's enough to get someone up and running and let them get to www.freebsd.org to see how to install something else. - I know this is going to cause a lot of flames but I'd say get rid of all the WMs except for something that will run fine on a 486. That gives people a package to get X working on a low-end system. The rest can be retrieved from ports/package distributions or the other CDs. They aren't taking up much space, but the bytes all add up. - I'd say (x)emacs could go as well. However, a lot of people learning UNIX use this as their first real (aka powerful) editor (sorry PiCo/nEdit just can't compare). I personally like vi/vim/gvim so I might be biased. - Is there some reason 2 PDF apps need to be on the first CD? Personally, I've always just installed the bare essentials to get a bootable system with the ports tree and cvsup. Anything else I build the latest port of. For that reason I might be biased when it comes to all the X apps and window managers. However, you have to admit, KDE and GNOME probably hog most of the CD. -- Ryan leadZERO Sommers Gamer's Impact President [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 1019590 AIM/MSN: leadZERO -= http://www.gamersimpact.com =- ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
