Re: Ports startup scripts in /etc/rc.d (Re: 5.2-BETA and related ports issues)

Robert Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > (1) Combine / and /usr into a single file system by default, and add > /usr/local/etc/rc.d to the search order, with appropriate hacks to > handle old-style scripts. The devil will be in the bikeshed, but the > implementation is easy, except

Re: Ports startup scripts in /etc/rc.d (Re: 5.2-BETA and related ports issues)

On Mon, 1 Dec 2003, Richard Coleman wrote: > > (2) Reevaluate the order at routine points in the boot where new scripts > > might now be available (due to file system mounts or whatever). > > Essentially "insert the new cards into the deck, and shuffle". This > > requires rethinking

Re: Ports startup scripts in /etc/rc.d (Re: 5.2-BETA and related ports issues)

Robert Watson wrote: For 5.2-CURRENT, I think we should revisit this issue with one of the following conclusions winning out, and the rest being discarded as flame-bait: (1) Combine / and /usr into a single file system by default, and add /usr/local/etc/rc.d to the search order, with appropr

Re: Ports startup scripts in /etc/rc.d (Re: 5.2-BETA and related ports issues)

David O'Brien wrote: For 5.2-CURRENT, I think we should revisit this issue with one of the following conclusions winning out, and the rest being discarded as flame-bait: (1) Combine / and /usr into a single file system by default, and add /usr/local/etc/rc.d to the search order, with appropri

Re: Ports startup scripts in /etc/rc.d (Re: 5.2-BETA and related ports issues)

On Sun, Nov 30, 2003 at 11:47:24PM -0500, Robert Watson wrote: > On Mon, 1 Dec 2003, Maxim M. Kazachek wrote: > > On Sun, 30 Nov 2003, Richard Coleman wrote: ..snip.. > For 5.2-CURRENT, I think we should revisit this issue with one of the > following conclusions winning out, and the rest being disc

Re: Ports startup scripts in /etc/rc.d (Re: 5.2-BETA and related ports issues)

On Mon, 1 Dec 2003, Maxim M. Kazachek wrote: > On Sun, 30 Nov 2003, Richard Coleman wrote: For 5.2-RELEASE, I think we should ignore the whole issue and let the couple of ports that insert things in /etc/rc.d "just do it". We're not going to find any other solution in time to either close the

Re: Ports startup scripts in /etc/rc.d (Re: 5.2-BETA and related ports issues)

On Sun, 30 Nov 2003, Richard Coleman wrote: >Andreas Klemm wrote: > >>>I guess I don't see the problem. What is wrong with ports adding >>>startup scripts to /etc/rc.d? For certain ports, that is the only way >>>to get the startup dependencies right (like making sure openldap or >>>postgresql st

Re: Ports startup scripts in /etc/rc.d (Re: 5.2-BETA and related ports issues)

Matthias Andree wrote: Richard Coleman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: But that kinda defeats the purpose of RCNG. One of the best features of RCNG is that it makes it easier to add/delete applications from the system. Not using it for this purpose reduces its utility. Let's not let the typical BS

Re: Ports startup scripts in /etc/rc.d (Re: 5.2-BETA and related ports issues)

Richard Coleman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > But that kinda defeats the purpose of RCNG. One of the best features of > RCNG is that it makes it easier to add/delete applications from the > system. Not using it for this purpose reduces its utility. > > Let's not let the typical BSD traditionalis

Re: Ports startup scripts in /etc/rc.d (Re: 5.2-BETA and related ports issues)

Andreas Klemm wrote: I guess I don't see the problem. What is wrong with ports adding startup scripts to /etc/rc.d? For certain ports, that is the only way to get the startup dependencies right (like making sure openldap or postgresql starts before your mail system). This will become more i

Re: Ports startup scripts in /etc/rc.d (Re: 5.2-BETA and related ports issues)

On Sun, Nov 30, 2003 at 10:45:40AM -0500, Richard Coleman wrote: > Oliver Eikemeier wrote: > > >The reason I did this was to support services like mail and nss_ldap. I > >really like to be > >prefix safe, PR conf/56736 relates to this: > > >

Re: Ports startup scripts in /etc/rc.d (Re: 5.2-BETA and related ports issues)

Oliver Eikemeier wrote: The reason I did this was to support services like mail and nss_ldap. I really like to be prefix safe, PR conf/56736 relates to this: I agree that there should be a better solution, and already asked Mike Makonnen <

Re: Ports startup scripts in /etc/rc.d (Re: 5.2-BETA and related ports issues)

Kris Kennaway wrote: On Sat, Nov 29, 2003 at 03:25:08PM +0100, Andreas Klemm wrote: All openldapXX-server ports do this for example [EMAIL PROTECTED] /var/db/pkg grep /etc/rc.d */+CONTEN* [...] openldap-server-2.1.23/+CONTENTS:@unexec /etc/rc.d/slapd stop 2>&1 >/dev/null || true openldap-server

Ports startup scripts in /etc/rc.d (Re: 5.2-BETA and related ports issues)

On Sat, Nov 29, 2003 at 03:25:08PM +0100, Andreas Klemm wrote: > All openldapXX-server ports do this for example > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] /var/db/pkg grep /etc/rc.d */+CONTEN* > [...] > openldap-server-2.1.23/+CONTENTS:@unexec /etc/rc.d/slapd stop 2>&1 >/dev/null || true > openldap-server-2.1.23/+CO