Re: Soft-updates feedback

1999-07-20 Thread Amancio Hasty

Have you checked your syslog to see if you are getting disk errors?

Also, I noticed that you have a VIA chipset and I know that 
at least with the Bt848 driver they have caused havoc. I would
stick to Intel PCI chipsets.

Not sure if your motherboard supports or not do you have
the latest microcode for your VIA chipset? 

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RE: Soft-updates feedback

1999-07-20 Thread Christopher Michaels

FWIW, I have a VIA chipset in my machine that is running -STABLE and I don't
have such problems.  I don't know if I have the same chipset as you tho, as
I'm not at the machine to check my dmesg.

I put an decent about of stress on the drives and don't seem to have any
lockups at all, slowdowns yes, lockups no.

I have the VIA MVP3 chipset, and my 2 of my drives are in DMA mode and one
is in PIO mode.

-Chris

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 Subject:  Soft-updates feedback
 
 Have you checked your syslog to see if you are getting disk errors?
 
 Also, I noticed that you have a VIA chipset and I know that 
 at least with the Bt848 driver they have caused havoc. I would
 stick to Intel PCI chipsets.
 
 Not sure if your motherboard supports or not do you have
 the latest microcode for your VIA chipset? 
 
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Re: Soft-updates feedback

1999-07-20 Thread John Baldwin


On 20-Jul-99 Amancio Hasty wrote:
 Have you checked your syslog to see if you are getting disk errors?
 
 Also, I noticed that you have a VIA chipset and I know that 
 at least with the Bt848 driver they have caused havoc. I would
 stick to Intel PCI chipsets.
 
 Not sure if your motherboard supports or not do you have
 the latest microcode for your VIA chipset? 

Huh?

Excerpt from my dmesg:

Probing for devices on PCI bus 0:
chip0: VIA 82C597 (Apollo VP3) system controller rev 0x04 on pci0.0.0
chip1: VIA 82C598MVP (Apollo MVP3) PCI-PCI bridge rev 0x00 on pci0.1.0
chip2: VIA 82C586 PCI-ISA bridge rev 0x41 on pci0.7.0
ide_pci0: VIA 82C586x (Apollo) Bus-master IDE controller rev 0x06 on pci0.7.1
chip3: VIA 82C586B ACPI interface rev 0x10 on pci0.7.3
bktr0: BrookTree 848 rev 0x01 int a irq 9 on pci0.9.0
bti2c0: bt848 Hard/Soft I2C controller
iicbb0: I2C generic bit-banging driver on bti2c0
iicbus0: Philips I2C bus on iicbb0 master-only
smbus0: System Management Bus on bti2c0
Hauppauge WinCast/TV, Philips NTSC tuner, dbx stereo.

What types of havoc should I be looking for?  Haven't had any since December
when I bought the new motherboard.

Oh, and here's uname -a:

FreeBSD john.baldwin.cx 3.2-STABLE FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE #3: Thu Jul  1 21:08:59
EDT 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/source/src/sys/compile/JOHN  i386

More info available on request.

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Re: Soft-updates feedback

1999-07-20 Thread Amancio Hasty

Glad that is working out for you. I am not into PCI low level bugs they are 
very
difficult to indentify and in certain cases impossible to fix.


To give you a little hint:



1.6825 May 1999 Roger Hardiman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   Due to differences in PCI bus implementations from various
motherboard chipset manufactuers, the Bt878/Bt879 has 3
PCI bus compatibility modes. These are
  NORMAL PCI 2.1  for proper PCI 2.1 compatible chipsets.
  INTEL 430 FXfor the Intel 430 FX chipset.
  SIS VIA CHIPSET for certain SiS and VIA chipsets.
Older Intel and non-Intel chipsets may also benefit from
either 430_FX or SIS/VIA mode.




Usually, the kind of problems that I have heard of is systems hanging hard
for instance with the Bt848 driver.

The bottom line is that if it is working for you great.




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Soft-updates feedback

1999-07-02 Thread Alex Povolotsky

About a week ago, I've posted a message here and didn't got positive replies.

The problem is:

when I use soft-updates on IDE disks (disk on primary master, disk on 
secondary master, CD on primary slave), any active disk-using program 
(starting Netscape, starting EXMH) causes all other programs literally to stop 
for several seconds (well, 20-30 seconds is quite often!). Turning 
soft-updates off causes this nastiness to disappear, but also slows down 
disk-active processess.

Alex.




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Re: Soft-updates feedback

1999-07-02 Thread Matthew Jacob

while this is happening, what does 'iostat 1' and 'vmstat 1' tell you?

On Sat, 3 Jul 1999, Alex Povolotsky wrote:

 About a week ago, I've posted a message here and didn't got positive replies.
 
 The problem is:
 
 when I use soft-updates on IDE disks (disk on primary master, disk on 
 secondary master, CD on primary slave), any active disk-using program 
 (starting Netscape, starting EXMH) causes all other programs literally to stop 
 for several seconds (well, 20-30 seconds is quite often!). Turning 
 soft-updates off causes this nastiness to disappear, but also slows down 
 disk-active processess.
 
 Alex.
 
 
 
 
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