Re: ESS sound card support on laptop

2002-06-16 Thread Masahide -mac- NODA

From: David W. Chapman Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ESS sound card support on laptop
Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 18:11:35 -0500
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dwcjr The rumor I heard is that their english isn't that good so that I 
dwcjr might not be able to communicate with them, english being the only 
dwcjr language I know.  I would be glad to contact them if this isn't the 
dwcjr case, but Im not sure exactly who they are.

It is rumor truly, I think. :-)

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ESS sound card support on laptop

2002-06-15 Thread David W. Chapman Jr.

I have the following sound card on my laptop, does anyone know how 
hard it would be to add this card to the pcm driver.

none2@pci0:14:0:class=0x040100 card=0x2550107b chip=0x1978125d rev=0x10 
hdr=0x00
vendor   = 'ESS Technology'
device   = 'ES1978 Maestro-2E Audiodrive, ES1970 Canyon3D'
class= multimedia
subclass = audio

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Re: ESS sound card support on laptop

2002-06-15 Thread Scott Long

On Sat, Jun 15, 2002 at 02:52:33PM -0500, David W. Chapman Jr. wrote:
 I have the following sound card on my laptop, does anyone know how 
 hard it would be to add this card to the pcm driver.
 
 none2@pci0:14:0:class=0x040100 card=0x2550107b chip=0x1978125d rev=0x10 
hdr=0x00
 vendor   = 'ESS Technology'
 device   = 'ES1978 Maestro-2E Audiodrive, ES1970 Canyon3D'
 class= multimedia
 subclass = audio
 
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Does it not work with the maestro driver?

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Re: ESS sound card support on laptop

2002-06-15 Thread Mark Santcroos

On Sat, Jun 15, 2002 at 01:52:16PM -0600, Scott Long wrote:
 On Sat, Jun 15, 2002 at 02:52:33PM -0500, David W. Chapman Jr. wrote:
  I have the following sound card on my laptop, does anyone know how 
  hard it would be to add this card to the pcm driver.
  
  none2@pci0:14:0:class=0x040100 card=0x2550107b chip=0x1978125d rev=0x10 
hdr=0x00
  vendor   = 'ESS Technology'
  device   = 'ES1978 Maestro-2E Audiodrive, ES1970 Canyon3D'
  class= multimedia
  subclass = audio

 Does it not work with the maestro driver?

It does.

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Re: ESS sound card support on laptop

2002-06-15 Thread M. Warner Losh

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David W. Chapman Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
: pcm0: ESS Technology Maestro-2E irq 5 at device 14.0 on pci0
: pcm0: unable to map register space
: device_probe_and_attach: pcm0 attach returned 6

FreeBSD should, but isn't, assign resources to PCI devices.  In the
past, the BIOS has done this, but MS has migrated this functionality
into the OS.  That's why you see a lot of these sorts of failures with
various kludges in the FreeBSD tree.  That's part of what I was
talking about in the developers conference when I said we needed to
make PCI work again :-)

Warner


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Re: ESS sound card support on laptop

2002-06-15 Thread Terry Lambert

M. Warner Losh wrote:
 In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 David W. Chapman Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 : pcm0: ESS Technology Maestro-2E irq 5 at device 14.0 on pci0
 : pcm0: unable to map register space
 : device_probe_and_attach: pcm0 attach returned 6
 
 FreeBSD should, but isn't, assign resources to PCI devices.  In the
 past, the BIOS has done this, but MS has migrated this functionality
 into the OS.  That's why you see a lot of these sorts of failures with
 various kludges in the FreeBSD tree.  That's part of what I was
 talking about in the developers conference when I said we needed to
 make PCI work again :-)

So if you have a machine without any MS software installed, and
have thereby denied the opportunity for MS to migrate this
functionality into the OS, how does it get migrated?

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Re: ESS sound card support on laptop

2002-06-15 Thread David W. Chapman Jr.

 past, the BIOS has done this, but MS has migrated this functionality
 into the OS.  That's why you see a lot of these sorts of failures with
 various kludges in the FreeBSD tree.  That's part of what I was
 talking about in the developers conference when I said we needed to
 make PCI work again :-)
 
Wel I look forward to this if it fixes my sound and linksys card :)

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Re: ESS sound card support on laptop

2002-06-15 Thread M. Warner Losh

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Terry Lambert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
: M. Warner Losh wrote:
:  In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:  David W. Chapman Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
:  : pcm0: ESS Technology Maestro-2E irq 5 at device 14.0 on pci0
:  : pcm0: unable to map register space
:  : device_probe_and_attach: pcm0 attach returned 6
:  
:  FreeBSD should, but isn't, assign resources to PCI devices.  In the
:  past, the BIOS has done this, but MS has migrated this functionality
:  into the OS.  That's why you see a lot of these sorts of failures with
:  various kludges in the FreeBSD tree.  That's part of what I was
:  talking about in the developers conference when I said we needed to
:  make PCI work again :-)
: 
: So if you have a machine without any MS software installed, and
: have thereby denied the opportunity for MS to migrate this
: functionality into the OS, how does it get migrated?

We write it.  It isn't in the BIOS anymore.  Usually with ACPI.

Warner

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Re: ESS sound card support on laptop

2002-06-15 Thread David W. Chapman Jr.

 We write it.  It isn't in the BIOS anymore.  Usually with ACPI.
 
Now that msmith left, do we have any acpi gurus?

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Re: ESS sound card support on laptop

2002-06-15 Thread Terry Lambert

M. Warner Losh wrote:
 :  FreeBSD should, but isn't, assign resources to PCI devices.  In the
 :  past, the BIOS has done this, but MS has migrated this functionality
 :  into the OS.  That's why you see a lot of these sorts of failures with
 :  various kludges in the FreeBSD tree.  That's part of what I was
 :  talking about in the developers conference when I said we needed to
 :  make PCI work again :-)
 :
 : So if you have a machine without any MS software installed, and
 : have thereby denied the opportunity for MS to migrate this
 : functionality into the OS, how does it get migrated?
 
 We write it.  It isn't in the BIOS anymore.  Usually with ACPI.

That was kind of my point to David: blaming MS doesn't make FreeBSD
work.  At some point, you have to accept that the problem is yours,
rather than being caused by some outside agency.

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Re: ESS sound card support on laptop

2002-06-15 Thread David W. Chapman Jr.

 That was kind of my point to David: blaming MS doesn't make FreeBSD
 work.  At some point, you have to accept that the problem is yours,
 rather than being caused by some outside agency.
 

I'm not sure I understand if you're referring to me.  I haven't 
blamed MS or even mentioned MS.  If I understand warner correctly, it 
can be solved by working on ACPI.

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Re: ESS sound card support on laptop

2002-06-15 Thread M. Warner Losh

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David W. Chapman Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
:  We write it.  It isn't in the BIOS anymore.  Usually with ACPI.
: Now that msmith left, do we have any acpi gurus?

There are many japanese that are expert at this.  I had plans on
taking up at least some familiarity with the ACPI code because it
directly impacts a usable cardbus subsystem.

Warner

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Re: ESS sound card support on laptop

2002-06-15 Thread M. Warner Losh

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Terry Lambert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
: That was kind of my point to David: blaming MS doesn't make FreeBSD
: work.  At some point, you have to accept that the problem is yours,
: rather than being caused by some outside agency.

Actually, it was caused by MS moving the BIOS resource assignment into
the OS.  We have had forever to deal and just haven't.

Warner

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Re: ESS sound card support on laptop

2002-06-15 Thread David W. Chapman Jr.

On Sat, Jun 15, 2002 at 05:07:53PM -0600, M. Warner Losh wrote:
 In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 David W. Chapman Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 :  We write it.  It isn't in the BIOS anymore.  Usually with ACPI.
 : Now that msmith left, do we have any acpi gurus?
 
 There are many japanese that are expert at this.  I had plans on
 taking up at least some familiarity with the ACPI code because it
 directly impacts a usable cardbus subsystem.

The rumor I heard is that their english isn't that good so that I 
might not be able to communicate with them, english being the only 
language I know.  I would be glad to contact them if this isn't the 
case, but Im not sure exactly who they are.

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Re: ESS sound card support on laptop

2002-06-15 Thread Terry Lambert

David W. Chapman Jr. wrote:
  That was kind of my point to David: blaming MS doesn't make FreeBSD
  work.  At some point, you have to accept that the problem is yours,
  rather than being caused by some outside agency.
 
 I'm not sure I understand if you're referring to me.  I haven't
 blamed MS or even mentioned MS.  If I understand warner correctly, it
 can be solved by working on ACPI.

It was a point to you, but the statement was Warner's.  It was your
reaction that I was reacting to... 8-).

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Re: Flash (was: Re: Sound card support)

1999-12-10 Thread Amancio Hasty

 Hi ..
 
 Under current the flash plugin works with the linux version of
 Netscape and the linuxelator ... Sound etc, everything works ok ...
 except for the odd crash of netscape which is normal :)

Hmmm. The developers of mozilla are dying to get bug reports 
http://www.mozilla.org 8)

Someone for berkeley.edu last week  reported 36 bugs which made
the developers very happy ...








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Re: Flash (was: Re: Sound card support)

1999-12-10 Thread Andreas Braukmann

Hi,

On Thu, Dec 09, 1999 at 11:16:58PM +0300, Dmitrij Tejblum wrote:
  Good luck using it under current.
  
  First site you hit quits netscape without reasons...
... yes. I built the port for the first time just yesterday and made
the same experience.

  ...until you drop out of X and see a __sh_getcontext  IIRC warning on
  your console.
 
 If you can hack on the flash plugin's Makefile, try add -fno-exceptions 
 there.
... many thanks for the tip.
It's up and running.

Regards,
Andreas


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Sound card support

1999-12-09 Thread Donn Miller

[subject changes and thread hijacked]

On Thu, 9 Dec 1999, Motoyuki Konno wrote:

 Please see Netscape plugin port (ports/www/flashplugin) to find
 out why we still have to need a.out support.

Wow -- there's a flash plugin for Netscape?  That's what I needed for a
couple of web sites.  Also, I hope to contribute in some way to broaden
FreeBSD's sound card support.

I have the ESS 1868.  I just made a printout of the data sheets for this
particular sound card.  If anyone out there needs the pdf version of the
ESS 1868 datasheet/specs, just email me and I can send you a copy via
email.

So far, it looks like the 1868 only does full duplex in mono. ;-(  (Is the
1868 even worth worrying about?)

Also, how well does the ProAudio Spectrum 16 work at this point right now
in -current?  Does it work flawlessly?

Whatever happened to the company that made the PAS 16?  I saw where
MediaVision doesn't exist anymore.  Has another company taken over PAS
development?

Anyhow, as far as ISA cards go...  how does the PAS 16 compare to the ESS
1868?  I think the PAS only gets full duplex when you've got both the PAS
and the SB compatibility side working in tandem.  Well, I've got a PCI
machine (Pentium), so I imagine a PCI sound card would be worlds better.

- Donn



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Flash (was: Re: Sound card support)

1999-12-09 Thread Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai

[again subject changes]

-On [19991209 16:00], Donn Miller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Thu, 9 Dec 1999, Motoyuki Konno wrote:

 Please see Netscape plugin port (ports/www/flashplugin) to find
 out why we still have to need a.out support.

Wow -- there's a flash plugin for Netscape?  That's what I needed for a
couple of web sites.

Good luck using it under current.

First site you hit quits netscape without reasons...

...until you drop out of X and see a __sh_getcontext  IIRC warning on
your console.

I already mailed maintainer about this.

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Re: Flash (was: Re: Sound card support)

1999-12-09 Thread Chris Piazza

On Thu, Dec 09, 1999 at 08:32:05PM +0100, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote:
 [again subject changes]
 
 -On [19991209 16:00], Donn Miller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Thu, 9 Dec 1999, Motoyuki Konno wrote:
 
  Please see Netscape plugin port (ports/www/flashplugin) to find
  out why we still have to need a.out support.
 
 Wow -- there's a flash plugin for Netscape?  That's what I needed for a
 couple of web sites.
 
 Good luck using it under current.
 
 First site you hit quits netscape without reasons...
 
 ...until you drop out of X and see a __sh_getcontext  IIRC warning on
 your console.
 
 I already mailed maintainer about this.

I don't even use the FreeBSD Netscape any more.  As far as I'm concerned,
there might as well NOT be a native binary for FreeBSD, because it's 
not very stable.  I use the Linux netscape with macromedia's flash4
plugin and it works very well.

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Re: Flash (was: Re: Sound card support)

1999-12-09 Thread Dmitrij Tejblum

 Good luck using it under current.
 
 First site you hit quits netscape without reasons...
 
 ...until you drop out of X and see a __sh_getcontext  IIRC warning on
 your console.

If you can hack on the flash plugin's Makefile, try add -fno-exceptions 
there.

Dima




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Re: Flash (was: Re: Sound card support)

1999-12-09 Thread Reinier Bezuidenhout

Hi ..

Under current the flash plugin works with the linux version of
Netscape and the linuxelator ... Sound etc, everything works ok ...
except for the odd crash of netscape which is normal :)

Just get the linux netscape and the linux flash plugin.

Reinier

 [again subject changes]
 
 -On [19991209 16:00], Donn Miller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Thu, 9 Dec 1999, Motoyuki Konno wrote:
 
  Please see Netscape plugin port (ports/www/flashplugin) to find
  out why we still have to need a.out support.
 
 Wow -- there's a flash plugin for Netscape?  That's what I needed for a
 couple of web sites.
 
 Good luck using it under current.
 
 First site you hit quits netscape without reasons...
 
 ...until you drop out of X and see a __sh_getcontext  IIRC warning on
 your console.
 
 I already mailed maintainer about this.
 
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