Re: What to do about RCS/OpenRCS

2015-05-11 Thread Lars Engels
On Sat, May 09, 2015 at 11:27:57AM -0700, Jos Backus wrote: Maybe off-topic, but functionality-wise it might make much more sense to import Fossil. RCS has too many limitations this day and age when better tools are available. Of course, this would require people to learn something new, which

Re: What to do about RCS/OpenRCS

2015-05-11 Thread Jos Backus
On May 11, 2015 2:31 AM, Lars Engels lars.eng...@0x20.net wrote: On Sat, May 09, 2015 at 11:27:57AM -0700, Jos Backus wrote: Maybe off-topic, but functionality-wise it might make much more sense to import Fossil. RCS has too many limitations this day and age when better tools are

Re: What to do about RCS/OpenRCS

2015-05-11 Thread Steve Kargl
On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 09:12:57AM -0700, Jos Backus wrote: On May 11, 2015 9:10 AM, Steve Kargl s...@troutmask.apl.washington.edu wrote: On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 08:43:06AM -0700, Jos Backus wrote: On May 11, 2015 2:31 AM, Lars Engels lars.eng...@0x20.net wrote: On Sat, May 09, 2015 at

Re: What to do about RCS/OpenRCS

2015-05-11 Thread Ian Lepore
On Mon, 2015-05-11 at 09:27 -0700, Jos Backus wrote: On May 11, 2015 9:21 AM, Steve Kargl s...@troutmask.apl.washington.edu wrote: On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 09:12:57AM -0700, Jos Backus wrote: On May 11, 2015 9:10 AM, Steve Kargl s...@troutmask.apl.washington.edu wrote: On Mon, May

Re: What to do about RCS/OpenRCS

2015-05-11 Thread Jos Backus
On May 11, 2015 9:21 AM, Steve Kargl s...@troutmask.apl.washington.edu wrote: On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 09:12:57AM -0700, Jos Backus wrote: On May 11, 2015 9:10 AM, Steve Kargl s...@troutmask.apl.washington.edu wrote: On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 08:43:06AM -0700, Jos Backus wrote: On May 11,

Re: What to do about RCS/OpenRCS

2015-05-11 Thread Steve Kargl
On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 08:43:06AM -0700, Jos Backus wrote: On May 11, 2015 2:31 AM, Lars Engels lars.eng...@0x20.net wrote: On Sat, May 09, 2015 at 11:27:57AM -0700, Jos Backus wrote: Maybe off-topic, but functionality-wise it might make much more sense to import Fossil. RCS has too

Re: What to do about RCS/OpenRCS

2015-05-11 Thread Jos Backus
On May 11, 2015 9:33 AM, David Chisnall thera...@freebsd.org wrote: [snip] And now you’re moving beyond missing the point and just trolling. Thanks for the ad hominen, David. You continue to make my point. Over and out, Jos David ___

Re: What to do about RCS/OpenRCS

2015-05-11 Thread David Chisnall
On 11 May 2015, at 17:27, Jos Backus j...@catnook.com wrote: I didn't miss anything. My point is that debating to update one piece of obsolete software with another is silly, and that FreeBSD should try to move forward in this area. But that's hard, as your response indicates. Steve is

Re: What to do about RCS/OpenRCS

2015-05-09 Thread Pedro Giffuni
On 05/08/15 15:59, Davide Italiano wrote: On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 1:34 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@freebsd.org wrote: Hi; I guess I see the following options: 1) Just leave GNU RCS in the tree. 2) Improve OpenRCS so it can be swapped in. 3) Remove RCS dependencies from other parts

Re: What to do about RCS/OpenRCS

2015-05-09 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
On May 9, 2015, at 8:05 AM, Pedro Giffuni p...@freebsd.org wrote: We do that with GNU code anyways. The latest (GPLv3) version of RCS has already diverged and is incompatible for some third party software so we basically ran out of support from upstream. OpenRCS has it's own share of

Re: What to do about RCS/OpenRCS

2015-05-09 Thread Jos Backus
Maybe off-topic, but functionality-wise it might make much more sense to import Fossil. RCS has too many limitations this day and age when better tools are available. Of course, this would require people to learn something new, which I know can be a challenge. Jos

Re: What to do about RCS/OpenRCS

2015-05-08 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi; On 08/05/2015 10:44 a.m., John Baldwin wrote: On Thursday, May 07, 2015 04:18:38 PM NGie Cooper wrote: On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 1:38 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@freebsd.org wrote: Hello; On 05/07/15 14:56, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: On Thu, 7 May 2015, Pedro Giffuni wrote: Unfortunately I don't

Re: What to do about RCS/OpenRCS

2015-05-08 Thread John Baldwin
On Thursday, May 07, 2015 04:18:38 PM NGie Cooper wrote: On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 1:38 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@freebsd.org wrote: Hello; On 05/07/15 14:56, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: On Thu, 7 May 2015, Pedro Giffuni wrote: Unfortunately I don't use RCS enough (it looks like I should

Re: What to do about RCS/OpenRCS

2015-05-08 Thread Davide Italiano
On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 1:34 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@freebsd.org wrote: Hi; I guess I see the following options: 1) Just leave GNU RCS in the tree. 2) Improve OpenRCS so it can be swapped in. 3) Remove RCS dependencies from other parts of the tree (e.g. etcupdate) and

What to do about RCS/OpenRCS

2015-05-07 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hello; Some of you might recall that right before 10.0-Release there was a painful attempt to remove GNU RCS from the base system. From my point of view, the lessons learned from that were: -A lot more people than you might think find it useful to have a small version control system for thing

Re: What to do about RCS/OpenRCS

2015-05-07 Thread Xin Li
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 05/07/15 12:09, Pedro Giffuni wrote: Hello; Some of you might recall that right before 10.0-Release there was a painful attempt to remove GNU RCS from the base system. From my point of view, the lessons learned from that were: -A lot

Re: What to do about RCS/OpenRCS

2015-05-07 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
On Thu, 7 May 2015, Pedro Giffuni wrote: Unfortunately I don't use RCS enough (it looks like I should though) so I am not in a good position to take the next step and deal with any fallout it may produce. If we can have a build-knob to disable GNU RCS and enable the new one I will happily

Re: What to do about RCS/OpenRCS

2015-05-07 Thread NGie Cooper
On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 1:38 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@freebsd.org wrote: Hello; On 05/07/15 14:56, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: On Thu, 7 May 2015, Pedro Giffuni wrote: Unfortunately I don't use RCS enough (it looks like I should though) so I am not in a good position to take the next step and

Re: What to do about RCS/OpenRCS

2015-05-07 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Il giorno 08/mag/2015, alle ore 00:26, Doug Brewer brewer.d...@gmail.com ha scritto: On Thu, May 07, 2015 at 04:18:38PM -0700, NGie Cooper wrote: On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 1:38 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@freebsd.org mailto:p...@freebsd.org wrote: Hello; On 05/07/15 14:56,

Re: What to do about RCS/OpenRCS

2015-05-07 Thread Doug Brewer
On Thu, May 07, 2015 at 04:18:38PM -0700, NGie Cooper wrote: On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 1:38 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@freebsd.org wrote: Hello; On 05/07/15 14:56, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: On Thu, 7 May 2015, Pedro Giffuni wrote: Unfortunately I don't use RCS enough (it looks like I

Re: What to do about RCS/OpenRCS

2015-05-07 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hello; On 05/07/15 14:56, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: On Thu, 7 May 2015, Pedro Giffuni wrote: Unfortunately I don't use RCS enough (it looks like I should though) so I am not in a good position to take the next step and deal with any fallout it may produce. If we can have a build-knob to