Re: Why isn't NOCLEAN the default? (was: Re: Cross-Development with NetBSD)

2002-11-22 Thread Ruslan Ermilov
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 02:48:01PM -0800, David Schultz wrote:
 Thus spake Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   I have long wondered why NOCLEAN isn't the default.  There seem to
   be a few cases where it doesn't DTRT for kernel builds, but it
   seems a bit conservative to make incremental world builds require
   that an undocumented variable be defined.  Any ideas?
  
  It often causes problems during upgrades (but is usually fine when
  just rebuilding a non-updated tree)
 
 Sounds reasonable.  Maybe it should be documented in build(7), though.
 
Yet it's documented in make.conf(5).


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Why isn't NOCLEAN the default? (was: Re: Cross-Development with NetBSD)

2002-11-21 Thread David Schultz
Thus spake John Baldwin [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Make release is a very poor example b/c make release goes to great
 efforts to create a clean-room environment for a release.  make
 rerelease is quite helpful though and does do what you want to
 restart a previous release. :)  Also, make buildworld -DNOCLEAN
 isn't too shabby, though if I could do make TARGET_ARCH=alpha
 everything I would prefer that.

I have long wondered why NOCLEAN isn't the default.  There seem to
be a few cases where it doesn't DTRT for kernel builds, but it
seems a bit conservative to make incremental world builds require
that an undocumented variable be defined.  Any ideas?

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Re: Why isn't NOCLEAN the default? (was: Re: Cross-Development with NetBSD)

2002-11-21 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 02:02:20PM -0800, David Schultz wrote:
 Thus spake John Baldwin [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Make release is a very poor example b/c make release goes to great
  efforts to create a clean-room environment for a release.  make
  rerelease is quite helpful though and does do what you want to
  restart a previous release. :)  Also, make buildworld -DNOCLEAN
  isn't too shabby, though if I could do make TARGET_ARCH=alpha
  everything I would prefer that.
 
 I have long wondered why NOCLEAN isn't the default.  There seem to
 be a few cases where it doesn't DTRT for kernel builds, but it
 seems a bit conservative to make incremental world builds require
 that an undocumented variable be defined.  Any ideas?

It often causes problems during upgrades (but is usually fine when
just rebuilding a non-updated tree)

Kris



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Re: Why isn't NOCLEAN the default? (was: Re: Cross-Development with NetBSD)

2002-11-21 Thread David Schultz
Thus spake Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  I have long wondered why NOCLEAN isn't the default.  There seem to
  be a few cases where it doesn't DTRT for kernel builds, but it
  seems a bit conservative to make incremental world builds require
  that an undocumented variable be defined.  Any ideas?
 
 It often causes problems during upgrades (but is usually fine when
 just rebuilding a non-updated tree)

Sounds reasonable.  Maybe it should be documented in build(7), though.

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