Re: more -current testers

2002-03-20 Thread Marc van Woerkom
In my environment, I have a central build and file server, and then a series of network booted crash machines. Hey, this is interesting. I planed to buy a serial terminal or simple pc which plays terminal for quite a long time, but delayed that until I will have moved to the new appartment,

Re: more -current testers

2002-03-01 Thread Cliff Sarginson
On Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 10:56:05AM +0200, Maxim Sobolev wrote: Michael Lucas wrote: I understand that we're getting to that stage where we need more -current testers. We all agree that the optimal thing would be to have hordes of very sophisticated users who can debug problems

Re: more -current testers

2002-03-01 Thread Glenn Gombert
...which could be saved with some up-to-date documentation :)) GG At 10:34 PM 3/1/2002 +0100, Cliff Sarginson wrote: On Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 10:56:05AM +0200, Maxim Sobolev wrote: Michael Lucas wrote: I understand that we're getting to that stage where we need more -current testers

Re: more -current testers

2002-03-01 Thread Julian Elischer
On Fri, 1 Mar 2002, Glenn Gombert wrote: I have spent several months figuring how to do diskless mounts for test kernels, run debuggers from serial terminals and do remote kernel debugging with gdb, and spent lots and lots of time doing is as well. Some 'up to date' How To's are really

Re: more -current testers

2002-03-01 Thread Matthew Dillon
There is a 'diskless' manual page, /usr/src/share/man/man8/diskless.8. It is somewhat out of date and it would be nice if it had a dhcpd.conf example. It would be great if someone did a major rewrite of it. -Matt

Re: more -current testers

2002-03-01 Thread Glenn Gombert
I would be happy to help with this, I will revise a section at a time in Developers Handbook on Kernel Debugging and then post it for review. I hope it helps others (and can save some precious time of other busy folks as well), I will try and have a section done by the end of next week :) At

Re: more -current testers

2002-03-01 Thread Glenn Gombert
I would be happy to try and revise it as well, I think that many people would find booting diskless kernels (for debugging development purposes) quite useful as well :) At 04:08 PM 3/1/2002 -0800, you wrote: There is a 'diskless' manual page, /usr/src/share/man/man8/diskless.8. It is

Re: more -current testers - are they WANTED yet?

2002-02-21 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 1:08 PM -0500 2/19/02, Michael Lucas wrote: In an ideal world, you're correct. The real question here should have been: do those people who are actively committing rapidly to the tree want to see this happen? They are the people who will realistically have to deal with the PRs. This is the

Re: more -current testers

2002-02-20 Thread Tom Fischer
Hello, These proposed articles can only help. I've been following this list for a few years, I'm ready to contribute in my own small way :-) tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] Michael Lucas wrote: I understand that we're getting to that stage where we need more -current testers. We all agree

Re: more -current testers

2002-02-20 Thread Maxim Sobolev
Michael Lucas wrote: I understand that we're getting to that stage where we need more -current testers. We all agree that the optimal thing would be to have hordes of very sophisticated users who can debug problems on their own and submit patches to fix all their issues. I would guess

more -current testers

2002-02-19 Thread Michael Lucas
I understand that we're getting to that stage where we need more -current testers. We all agree that the optimal thing would be to have hordes of very sophisticated users who can debug problems on their own and submit patches to fix all their issues. I would guess that we all also agree

Re: more -current testers

2002-02-19 Thread Miguel Mendez
On Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 12:50:11PM -0500, Michael Lucas wrote: Hi Michael, It seems that the best we can hope for is to educate some of the braver users who are ready to take the next step and are willing to donate some time to us. Agreed. I think there are people out there willing to help

Re: more -current testers

2002-02-19 Thread Munish Chopra
On Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 12:50:11PM -0500, Michael Lucas wrote: It seems that the best we can hope for is to educate some of the braver users who are ready to take the next step and are willing to donate some time to us. Very good idea. I probably qualify as a good representation of the

Re: more -current testers

2002-02-19 Thread Michael Lucas
In an ideal world, you're correct. The real question here should have been: do those people who are actively committing rapidly to the tree want to see this happen? They are the people who will realistically have to deal with the PRs. On Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 07:01:42PM +0100, Miguel Mendez

Re: more -current testers

2002-02-19 Thread George V. Neville-Neil
As someone who's just starting down this path as well, I'd say the sooner the better. Later, George To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message

Re: more -current testers

2002-02-19 Thread Cliff Sarginson
On Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 12:50:11PM -0500, Michael Lucas wrote: I understand that we're getting to that stage where we need more -current testers. We all agree that the optimal thing would be to have hordes of very sophisticated users who can debug problems on their own and submit patches

RE: more -current testers

2002-02-19 Thread Smokey DeWeed
this and thinking the same thing. Keep up the good work. :) On Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 12:50:11PM -0500, Michael Lucas wrote: I understand that we're getting to that stage where we need more -current testers. We all agree that the optimal thing would be to have hordes of very sophisticated users

Re: more -current testers

2002-02-19 Thread Olivier Cortes
and installing FreeBSD. Thanks ! Olivier (saturday i will buy a serial cable to start playing with ;-) ) On Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 12:50:11PM -0500, Michael Lucas wrote: I understand that we're getting to that stage where we need more -current testers. We all agree that the optimal thing would