removing enigma(1)
[Donning asbestos underwear] With the FreeBSD 4.0 code freeze fast approaching, are there any compelling reasons to keep enigma (src/usr.bin/enigma) in the source tree? Yes, I know it is a *small* utility, but 1. it provides rather weak encryption, 2. the crypto-distribution is available with stronger encryption, and 3. src/ports/security contains stronger encryption schemes. -- Steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: removing enigma(1)
From: Steve Kargl [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 12:20:19 -0800 (PST) With the FreeBSD 4.0 code freeze fast approaching, are there any compelling reasons to keep enigma (src/usr.bin/enigma) in the source tree? Yes, I know it is a *small* utility, but 1. it provides rather weak encryption, 2. the crypto-distribution is available with stronger encryption, and 3. src/ports/security contains stronger encryption schemes. Maybe relocate it to games :-)/2, david -- David Wolfskill [EMAIL PROTECTED] UNIX System Administrator voice: (650) 577-7158 pager: (888) 347-0197 FAX: (650) 372-5915 To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: removing enigma(1)
With the FreeBSD 4.0 code freeze fast approaching, are there any compelling reasons to keep enigma (src/usr.bin/enigma) in the source tree? How dare you be so anti-bloat, living so close to Redmond?:-) [But otherwise a nice place, Seattle. I used to live there] Enigma is just a format converter at this point and should be left around (after renaming it crypt -- which is how it is known on all Unix versions older than 10 years). Some of us old fogeys still have old encrypted files exhumed, from moldy old files for which crypt is useful (and not just for reburying). crypt should be left around *somewhere*. If you have to throw something out, throw our perl [ducking for cover...:-] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: removing enigma(1)
On Wed, Dec 01, 1999 at 04:09:11PM -0500, a little birdie told me
that Bakul Shah remarked
Enigma is just a format converter at this point and should be
left around (after renaming it crypt -- which is how it is
known on all Unix versions older than 10 years). Some of us
Renaming?
[15:25:53] mortis:~
(ttyp9):{838}% ll -i `which crypt` `which enigma`
23155 -r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 4980 Oct 29 13:47 /usr/bin/crypt*
23155 -r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 4980 Oct 29 13:47 /usr/bin/enigma*
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Re: removing enigma(1)
On Wed, Dec 01, 1999 at 03:26:34PM -0600, Matthew D. Fuller wrote:
On Wed, Dec 01, 1999 at 04:09:11PM -0500, a little birdie told me
that Bakul Shah remarked
Enigma is just a format converter at this point and should be
left around (after renaming it crypt -- which is how it is
known on all Unix versions older than 10 years). Some of us
Renaming?
[15:25:53] mortis:~
(ttyp9):{838}% ll -i `which crypt` `which enigma`
23155 -r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 4980 Oct 29 13:47 /usr/bin/crypt*
23155 -r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 4980 Oct 29 13:47 /usr/bin/enigma*
Ok, so the verdict is that enigma isn't contributing to bloat in
any measurable way whatsoever, because it's merely a hard link to
"crypt", a utility which has long been a useful part of UNIX and
which is required so that people can decrypt their old files (without
needing to spend an hour or so on a brute-force keysearch :-)
- mark
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Re: removing enigma(1)
On Wed, 1 Dec 1999, Matthew D. Fuller wrote:
On Wed, Dec 01, 1999 at 04:09:11PM -0500, a little birdie told me
that Bakul Shah remarked
Enigma is just a format converter at this point and should be
left around (after renaming it crypt -- which is how it is
known on all Unix versions older than 10 years). Some of us
Renaming?
[15:25:53] mortis:~
(ttyp9):{838}% ll -i `which crypt` `which enigma`
23155 -r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 4980 Oct 29 13:47 /usr/bin/crypt*
23155 -r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 4980 Oct 29 13:47 /usr/bin/enigma*
Why is that a hard link instead of a symbolic link?
Jamie
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Re: removing enigma(1)
On Wed, Dec 01, 1999 at 04:36:12PM -0500, a little birdie told me
that James Howard remarked
On Wed, 1 Dec 1999, Matthew D. Fuller wrote:
[15:25:53] mortis:~
(ttyp9):{838}% ll -i `which crypt` `which enigma`
23155 -r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 4980 Oct 29 13:47 /usr/bin/crypt*
23155 -r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 4980 Oct 29 13:47 /usr/bin/enigma*
Why is that a hard link instead of a symbolic link?
Probably the same reason most (all?) things in the base system that run
linked are hard links:
(ll -i | sort is instructive)
/sbin:
14445 -r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 150840 Oct 29 13:46 mount_mfs*
14445 -r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 150840 Oct 29 13:46 newfs*
(That's pretty cool, if mildly weird)
14442 -r-xr-xr-x 5 root wheel 59756 Oct 29 13:46 mount_devfs*
14442 -r-xr-xr-x 5 root wheel 59756 Oct 29 13:46 mount_fdesc*
14442 -r-xr-xr-x 5 root wheel 59756 Oct 29 13:46 mount_kernfs*
14442 -r-xr-xr-x 5 root wheel 59756 Oct 29 13:46 mount_procfs*
14442 -r-xr-xr-x 5 root wheel 59756 Oct 29 13:46 mount_std*
/bin:
124 -r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 48592 Oct 29 13:43 [*
124 -r-xr-xr-x 2 root wheel 48592 Oct 29 13:43 test*
Sendmail the same way (I can't show it since I have Postfix installed,
but...) (Ah, here's another system:)
430769 -r-sr-xr-x 5 root 7 290816 Nov 18 1998 /usr/bin/mailq*
430769 -r-sr-xr-x 5 root 7 290816 Nov 18 1998 /usr/bin/newaliases*
430769 -r-sr-xr-x 5 root 7 290816 Nov 18 1998 /usr/sbin/sendmail*
etc.
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