Re: wierd dsl performance with -CURRENT

2003-07-11 Thread Terry Lambert
Kenneth Culver wrote: > > You should visit the FreeBSD -performance list archives for a > > (fairly) recent discussion on network performance (I believe > > between a couple of us, we were able to come up with tuning > > parameters that improved someone's file transfer performance by > > about a fa

Re: wierd dsl performance with -CURRENT

2003-07-10 Thread Kenneth Culver
> You should visit the FreeBSD -performance list archives for a > (fairly) recent discussion on network performance (I believe > between a couple of us, we were able to come up with tuning > parameters that improved someone's file transfer performance by > about a factor of 10 for some tests). Rem

Re: wierd dsl performance with -CURRENT

2003-07-10 Thread Terry Lambert
Kenneth Culver wrote: > > Just as an experiment, try setting "net.inet.tcp.newreno" to 0 using > > sysctl(8). It might help; it might not. Please let us know. > > It didn't help. I also tried setting several other sysctl OID's in > net.inet.tcp, but nothing helped. I'm totally out of ideas for w

Re: wierd dsl performance with -CURRENT

2003-07-09 Thread Kenneth Culver
> This is the data transfer, so the d2c_* plots are the interesting ones > (they graph the traffic from ftp2 to you). If you load up d2c_tput.xpl, > you can see that your throughput averaged ~164K/s for almost the entire > time. The red line is the short-term average, and you can see there > were

Re: wierd dsl performance with -CURRENT

2003-07-09 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Jul 09), Kenneth Culver said: > > In the last episode (Jul 09), Kenneth Culver said: > > > > look of any large values in the timestamps and see if there is > > > > anything before that indicates a lost packet or a re-ordered one or > > > > something (or a retransmitted ack) > >

Re: wierd dsl performance with -CURRENT

2003-07-09 Thread Kenneth Culver
> In the last episode (Jul 09), Kenneth Culver said: > > > look of any large values in the timestamps and see if there is > > > anything before that indicates a lost packet or a re-ordered one or > > > something (or a retransmitted ack) > > > > > > The key is to find the gap in the arriving packets

Re: wierd dsl performance with -CURRENT

2003-07-09 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Jul 09), Kenneth Culver said: > > look of any large values in the timestamps and see if there is > > anything before that indicates a lost packet or a re-ordered one or > > something (or a retransmitted ack) > > > > The key is to find the gap in the arriving packets and figure

Re: wierd dsl performance with -CURRENT

2003-07-09 Thread Kenneth Culver
> > > Can you do a > > > 'netstat -s -p tcp >> tcpstats' before and after the transfer? > > > > > > This should tell us if there were retransmits etc. It could be a > > > difference in minimum rtt values or a congestion issue that results in > > > timeout for our stack but some other recovery mech

Re: wierd dsl performance with -CURRENT

2003-07-09 Thread Julian Elischer
On Wed, 9 Jul 2003, Kenneth Culver wrote: > > Can you do a > > 'netstat -s -p tcp >> tcpstats' before and after the transfer? > > > > This should tell us if there were retransmits etc. It could be a > > difference in minimum rtt values or a congestion issue that results in > > timeout for our s

Re: wierd dsl performance with -CURRENT

2003-07-09 Thread Kenneth Culver
> > Transferring anything through the BSD NAT box shows the same performance > > issues, as well as transferring directly from BSD to the DSL modem on both > > of my BSD machines. Using windows or the mac directly connected to the DSL > > modem shows the normal bandwidth capability. I know the hard

Re: wierd dsl performance with -CURRENT

2003-07-09 Thread Jeff Roberson
On Wed, 9 Jul 2003, Kenneth Culver wrote: > > AH so it's direct DSL with either a fixed IP or DHCP or similar? > > Yep, basically I don't have a DSL modem, I have an Ethernet to ATM bridge > (using AAL5 encapsulation I believe) running over the DSL. I have 2 fixed > IP's, and in my normal configur

Re: wierd dsl performance with -CURRENT

2003-07-09 Thread Kenneth Culver
> AH so it's direct DSL with either a fixed IP or DHCP or similar? Yep, basically I don't have a DSL modem, I have an Ethernet to ATM bridge (using AAL5 encapsulation I believe) running over the DSL. I have 2 fixed IP's, and in my normal configuration, my two BSD boxes are hooked up to a switch th

Re: wierd dsl performance with -CURRENT

2003-07-09 Thread Julian Elischer
On Wed, 9 Jul 2003, Kenneth Culver wrote: > > I think he is timing transfers from a Mac THROUGH the BSD box.. > > If so then a change in throughput would be due to a change in ppp > > behaviour.. > > No, I hooked the mac straight to the DSL modem, and also did the same with > the windows box. >

Re: wierd dsl performance with -CURRENT

2003-07-09 Thread Kenneth Culver
> Just as an experiment, try setting "net.inet.tcp.newreno" to 0 using > sysctl(8). It might help; it might not. Please let us know. It didn't help. I also tried setting several other sysctl OID's in net.inet.tcp, but nothing helped. I'm totally out of ideas for why this could be happening. I me

Re: wierd dsl performance with -CURRENT

2003-07-09 Thread Kenneth Culver
> I think he is timing transfers from a Mac THROUGH the BSD box.. > If so then a change in throughput would be due to a change in ppp > behaviour.. No, I hooked the mac straight to the DSL modem, and also did the same with the windows box. > > It would be interesting to see if it changed with > 1/

Re: wierd dsl performance with -CURRENT

2003-07-09 Thread John Polstra
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Julian Elischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Wed, 9 Jul 2003, John Polstra wrote: > > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > > Kenneth Culver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Recently, for some wierd reason, with FreeBSD-CURRENT my DSL > > > downloads have

Re: wierd dsl performance with -CURRENT

2003-07-09 Thread Julian Elischer
On Wed, 9 Jul 2003, John Polstra wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Kenneth Culver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Recently, for some wierd reason, with FreeBSD-CURRENT my DSL > > downloads have gotten about 10-15 KB/sec slower than they used to be.. I > > used to get 160KB/sec downl

Re: wierd dsl performance with -CURRENT

2003-07-09 Thread John Polstra
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Kenneth Culver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Recently, for some wierd reason, with FreeBSD-CURRENT my DSL > downloads have gotten about 10-15 KB/sec slower than they used to be.. I > used to get 160KB/sec downloads, and now can only manage about 145. I was > wo

wierd dsl performance with -CURRENT

2003-07-09 Thread Kenneth Culver
Hi, Recently, for some wierd reason, with FreeBSD-CURRENT my DSL downloads have gotten about 10-15 KB/sec slower than they used to be.. I used to get 160KB/sec downloads, and now can only manage about 145. I was wondering if there are any ideas what is causing this. I'm sure it's a FreeBSD