Re: Tiny BSD Pages

2003-03-05 Thread Michael Bretterklieber
Hi, Juli Mallett schrieb: * De: Michael Bretterklieber [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ Data: 2003-03-05 ] [ Subjecte: Re: Tiny BSD Pages ] Hi, Chris Fowler schrieb: I do one thing in Linux that I want to do in FreeBSD. I store my root file system as a blow fish, gzipped, encrypted file on a

Re: mbuf cache

2003-03-05 Thread Petri Helenius
Yeah, it kinda sucks but I'm not sure how it works... when are the mbufs freed? If they're all freed in a continous for loop that kinda sucks. I think there is nothing really special about the driver there? The mbufs are allocated in the driver and then freed when other parts in the

Re: mbuf cache

2003-03-05 Thread Petri Helenius
While you are there debugging mbuf issues, you might also want to try this patch: Didn´t run profiling yet, but judging from the CPU utilization, this did not change the whole picture a lot (dunno why it should since CPU is mostly spent freeing the mbufs, not allocating them) Pete

Re: Removal of netns - politically correct version

2003-03-05 Thread Bob Bishop
Hi, Here's a hint: The Apollo Domain and XNS networking protocols will no longer be offered after Cisco IOS Release 12.2. Information about these protocols will not appear in future releases of the Cisco IOS software documentation set.

Re: Removal of netns - politically correct version

2003-03-05 Thread Terry Lambert
Bob Bishop wrote: Here's a hint: The Apollo Domain and XNS networking protocols will no longer be offered after Cisco IOS Release 12.2. Information about these protocols will not appear in future releases of the Cisco IOS software documentation set.

Re: Removal of netns - politically correct version

2003-03-05 Thread Juli Mallett
* De: Terry Lambert [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ Data: 2003-03-05 ] [ Subjecte: Re: Removal of netns - politically correct version ] On the other hand, there's no compelling reason to dike it out, if it can be made to work. I would argue that ISA support is more or less just as obsolete, as is

panic: ata_dmasetup: transfer active on this device!

2003-03-05 Thread Yann Berthier
Hello, My laptop freeze *systematically* while resuming from suspend mode (ACPI) with recent (as of yesterday) kernels. I experienced the same problem with old (January 25th) kernels, but only from time to time (once every 3-5 times I would say) PS: there is no disk activity

Re: panic: ata_dmasetup: transfer active on this device!

2003-03-05 Thread Ruslan Ermilov
A known issue. Soren is working on that. On Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 10:14:34AM +0100, Yann Berthier wrote: Hello, My laptop freeze *systematically* while resuming from suspend mode (ACPI) with recent (as of yesterday) kernels. I experienced the same problem with old (January

Re: panic: ata_dmasetup: transfer active on this device!

2003-03-05 Thread Yann Berthier
On Wed, 05 Mar 2003, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: A known issue. Soren is working on that. Ok, I knew in fact that Soren was working on that. What strikes me is that, from what i see, the situation degrades from kernel to kernel. So I posted a backtrace in case of an interaction with other

Plea for base system trim

2003-03-05 Thread Subscriber
Would the powers that be please consider removing sendmail, bind and openssl from the base system, as was done for perl with 5.0? Now that there is portupgrade it is so much easier to update ports and packages that the make buildworld etc cycle for base system updates seems even more painful.

Re: Plea for base system trim

2003-03-05 Thread Doug Barton
On Wed, 5 Mar 2003, Subscriber wrote: Would the powers that be please consider removing sendmail, bind and openssl from the base system, as was done for perl with 5.0? This topic has been discussed ad nauseum, and the consensus has always been that those three things (and openssh) should stay

Re: Plea for base system trim

2003-03-05 Thread Doug Barton
D'oh, I forgot the other half of my response (I KNOW you're disappointed by this). :) A big part of the reason that perl was cut is that bmake'ing the build was a NIGHTMARE. By contrast, the BIND bmake glue is not terribly difficult to maintain. The other contributing factors were the license

Re: Plea for base system trim

2003-03-05 Thread David Schultz
Thus spake Subscriber [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Would the powers that be please consider removing sendmail, bind and openssl from the base system, as was done for perl with 5.0? Please don't restart this flamewar. When we have a better installer, then it may be possible in the future to select

Re: Removal of netns - politically correct version

2003-03-05 Thread Tony Finch
Terry Lambert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Given that the current TCP/IP stack no longer matches the Stevens books, and given that Stevens is too dead to update the books to the new FreeBSD stack, even if he wanted to, it's useful to have a relatively simple set of code that can be understood without

Re: Removal of netns - politically correct version

2003-03-05 Thread Terry Lambert
Tony Finch wrote: The details might be different but not enough to confuse a competent programmer. Same argument, in favor of the netns code. It's a moot point anyway, I just fixed netns. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of

Re: IP over IEEE1394?

2003-03-05 Thread David Leimbach
Interesting... I didn't even know we had Ethernet over firewire :). Mac OS X and Windows XP both have IP over firewire either working or in the works and somewhat usable. The only one I can claim any experience with is Mac OS X. It's somewhat flaky though and you get unreliable spikes in

Re: Plea for base system trim

2003-03-05 Thread Jacques A. Vidrine
On Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 09:54:13AM -, Subscriber wrote: Having just done two rebuilds for recent OpenSSL and sendmail vulnerabilities, I was surprised to discover that building the port of apache13-modssl required the build of a port version of OpenSSL when I had the most updated (4.7)

Re: Volunteer with genuine i386 cpu lots of time wanted.

2003-03-05 Thread Eric.J.Haug
Summary: sort of works someone may be able to answer the long compile questions with a box with more than 8 megs of memory. you probably do not want to use a PIO mode IDE disk controller. Hardware 386DX with 387 8 megs system board memory

pass0: 3224652.361MB/s transfers

2003-03-05 Thread Yuriy Tsibizov
can anyone explain why FreeBSD think that my scanner can provide over 3TB/s data rate??? Or it's just a (-1) incorrectly formatted as unsigned on printf() ? boot -v dmesg: Calibrating clock(s) ... TSC clock: 400897760 Hz, i8254 clock: 1193149 Hz CLK_USE_I8254_CALIBRATION not specified - using

Re: IP over IEEE1394?

2003-03-05 Thread Christopher Fowler
This may not be a workable solution, but if you can get 2 programs to send data across the firewire to one another, you could use pppd through that tunnel. On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 08:25, David Leimbach wrote: Interesting... I didn't even know we had Ethernet over firewire :). Mac OS X and

Re: IP over IEEE1394?

2003-03-05 Thread David Leimbach
Yeah... point to point connections are interesting and powerful but IP would be better if we could get it. I wish I knew more about how to implement it. :) Dave On Wednesday, March 5, 2003, at 08:23 AM, Christopher Fowler wrote: This may not be a workable solution, but if you can get 2

Re: IP over IEEE1394?

2003-03-05 Thread Christopher Fowler
The beauty of ppp is that you have support in the kernel to do it. Else, you are stuck to writing some type of interface driver for the kernel. In the short term, this may not be a workable solution. On a side note, I read an article on /. about using firewire + MinDV for backup. I guess I

mdmfs broken?

2003-03-05 Thread Stijn Hoop
Hi, What's the correct syntax in 5-CURRENT to have a memory disk for /tmp in your /etc/fstab? It seems that mdmfs is broken somehow, or else I'm not reading the instructions right: FreeBSD pcwin352.win.tue.nl 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #0: Tue Mar 4 17:32:19 CET 2003 [EMAIL

CVSROOT directory gone?

2003-03-05 Thread David Leimbach
I can't seem to get a mirror copy of the CVSROOT directory with my cvsup script. This worked fine a few days ago. cvsup2.FreeBSD.org is the server I used. Dave To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message

Re: IP over IEEE1394?

2003-03-05 Thread David Leimbach
True... I guess I didn't state my case clearly enough that I think IP over firewire is in itself a good thing for clusters. ppp connections with it are fine too but not very useful for my line of work which is parallel computing middleware :) Dave On Wednesday, March 5, 2003, at 08:30 AM,

Re: CVSROOT directory gone?

2003-03-05 Thread Michael Hostbaek
The following mail was sent to current@ from Peter Wemm yesterday: snip Anybody who uses the cvs-supfile example to get the repository should add cvsroot-all to their supfile. This is in addition to src-all, ports-all, doc-all etc. This is *ONLY* for the folks getting the CVS ,v files via

Re: Plea for base system trim

2003-03-05 Thread ianf
Subscriber wrote: Would the powers that be please consider removing sendmail, bind and openssl from the base system, as was done for perl with 5.0? There are /etc/make.conf variables to control this so you can do it for yourself: #NO_BIND= true# do not build BIND #NO_OPENSSH=

RE: IP over IEEE1394?

2003-03-05 Thread Cagle, John (ISS-Houston)
Wouldn't you need a firewire switch to do a cluster of more than 2 nodes? Or are you thinking of using multiple firewire interfaces per node? -Original Message- From: David Leimbach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 8:32 AM To: Christopher Fowler Cc: [EMAIL

Re:Witness problem with sound

2003-03-05 Thread Orion Hodson
Yuriy wrote: | Mar 4 14:56:27 port2 kernel:=20 | /usr/src/sys/vm/uma_core.c:1330: could sleep with | pcm0:play:0 locked from /usr/src/sys/dev/sound/pcm/dsp.c:748 | this problem is in last (1.27-1.28) changes in = | /usr/src/sys/dev/sound/pcm/feeder.c (if I remember correctly) | You can revert

Re: Removal of netns - politically correct version

2003-03-05 Thread Hiten Pandya
Terry Lambert (Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 04:15:11AM -0800) wrote: Tony Finch wrote: The details might be different but not enough to confuse a competent programmer. Same argument, in favor of the netns code. It's a moot point anyway, I just fixed netns. Sorry to but in, but I don't see why

coda_vnops breaks kernel buil

2003-03-05 Thread Michael Hostbaek
Two hour old src, when doing a make buildkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC : dfdsf /usr/src/sys/coda/coda_vnops.c:171: initializer element is not constant /usr/src/sys/coda/coda_vnops.c:171: (near initialization for `coda_vnodeop_entries[42]') /usr/src/sys/coda/coda_vnops.c:1984: warning: function

Re: coda_vnops breaks kernel buil

2003-03-05 Thread Michael Hostbaek
Michael Hostbaek (mich) writes: Two hour old src, when doing a make buildkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC : dfdsf /usr/src/sys/coda/coda_vnops.c:171: initializer element is not constant /usr/src/sys/coda/coda_vnops.c:171: (near initialization for `coda_vnodeop_entries[42]')

Re: IP over IEEE1394?

2003-03-05 Thread Andrew Gallatin
David Leimbach writes: True... I guess I didn't state my case clearly enough that I think IP over firewire is in itself a good thing for clusters. From my experience with the Apple IP over Firewire, it seems slow, and very high overhead. A dual 800MHz G4 host which can transmit at well

Re: IP over IEEE1394?

2003-03-05 Thread Christopher Fowler
If toy are using PVM or similar technologies, would'nt the best route to be to pick a transport that is the fastest. Last thing you want is messages to be bogged down in transport. Im nut sure what type of clusters you are building but I would say use multiple interfaces. If you are stuck with

Re: Removal of netns - politically correct version

2003-03-05 Thread chris corayer
if it can be made to work. I would argue that ISA support is more or less just as obsolete, as is 486 support, as is the F00F bug workaround, as is ... a lot of code that's still there. That's just being silly. ISA support is still very much a requirement. Laptops usually have ISA stuff

Re: mdmfs broken?

2003-03-05 Thread Ralf S. Engelschall
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: What's the correct syntax in 5-CURRENT to have a memory disk for /tmp in your /etc/fstab? [...] Create a symlink: lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 5 Feb 13 13:28 /sbin/mount_mfs - mdmfs and use in /etc/fstab something like: md0 /tmp mfs

Re: Plea for base system trim

2003-03-05 Thread Brooks Davis
On Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 07:43:15AM -0600, Jacques A. Vidrine wrote: On Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 09:54:13AM -, Subscriber wrote: Having just done two rebuilds for recent OpenSSL and sendmail vulnerabilities, I was surprised to discover that building the port of apache13-modssl required the

RE: boot0cfg

2003-03-05 Thread John Baldwin
On 05-Mar-2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Last weekend I had to reinstall Windows XP on my PC and certainly I lost boot manager. After booting from CD and mounting as root ad0 device, I replaced boot0 record using the following command line : # boot0cfg -Bv -s 1 -t 91 ad0 On my PC I have

Another nVidia question, maybe a bit OT.

2003-03-05 Thread walt
Because of the repeated breakage of the proprietary nVidia driver in -CURRENT I've been trying out the native XFree86 'nv' driver with some puzzling results. Maybe one of the nVidia whiz-kids in this group can explain: I reboot the machine, then start the X server. The X server immediately

Disk Read Errors under SMP on -current

2003-03-05 Thread Philip Higgins
Running -current updated less than a day ago (same problem existed a few days before), I am getting odd errors inserted in files (generally a string of five or so garbage characters randomly replacing file contents) when files are read. Doesn't seem to affected writes at all, but I didn't hang

Re: Plea for base system trim

2003-03-05 Thread Adrian Steinmann
I use this command in my build script to force apache13+modssl to use the openssl in base. # Use base openssl (OpenSSL 0.9.7a as of Feb 19 2003) cd /usr/ports/www/apache13-modssl cp Makefile Makefile- sed -ie 's/^\.include.*Makefile\.ssl.*$/OPENSSLBASE=\/usr/' Makefile- Makefile You wrote:

Re: Plea for base system trim

2003-03-05 Thread Jacques A. Vidrine
On Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 08:54:28AM -0800, Brooks Davis wrote: At least in the case of net/net-snmp the problem is that the shared lib version of the openssl port was bumped when the base wasn't which screws up the dependencies. :-( That's part of the problem. The port bumped the shared

Re: bluetooth device ID

2003-03-05 Thread Maksim Yevmenkin
Hello Pav, [ CC'ed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] To all FreeBSD Bluetooth users Please do not hesitate to ask questions! No question is too dumb. When asking questions please CC to one of the FreeBSD mailing lists. mobile@, net@ and [EMAIL PROTECTED] seems like a good choice. This way your

Re: IP over IEEE1394?

2003-03-05 Thread Wilko Bulte
On Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 07:25:20AM -0600, David Leimbach wrote: Interesting... I didn't even know we had Ethernet over firewire :). Mac OS X and Windows XP both have IP over firewire either working or in the works and somewhat usable. The only one I can claim any experience with is Mac

Re: Plea for base system trim

2003-03-05 Thread Barney Wolff
I have both apache-modssl and net-snmp running, but do NOT have the openssl port installed. Everything builds and runs fine, with no mods to anything. I conjecture that the problem others experience is that they have installed the openssl port, which I have never done. This is on both current

Re: Plea for base system trim

2003-03-05 Thread Brooks Davis
On Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 01:15:29PM -0500, Barney Wolff wrote: I have both apache-modssl and net-snmp running, but do NOT have the openssl port installed. Everything builds and runs fine, with no mods to anything. I conjecture that the problem others experience is that they have installed the

Fix for rtc, vmware modules and post-500104 -current

2003-03-05 Thread Marcin CIELAK
See the patches enclosed to emulators/rtc and emulators/vmware2 ports. Tested only for -current with: #define __FreeBSD_version 500104 -- Marcin Cielak // [EMAIL PROTECTED] Index: Makefile === RCS file:

Re: Removal of netns - politically correct version

2003-03-05 Thread Terry Lambert
Hiten Pandya wrote: Sorry to but in, but I don't see why this so called bikesheed keeps getting bigger and bigger. The outcome is simple. If your patches function properly, then there is no need to remove netns provided you don't mind maintaining it. If it doesn't have a maintainer, then

Freeze after APIC_IO: Testing 8254 interrupt delivery

2003-03-05 Thread Attila Nagy
Hello, Our newly bought Fujitsu-Siemens F250 boots with the GENERIC kernel, but with a recent, SMP-capable CURRENT it freezes after the following line: APIC_IO: Testing 8254 interrupt delivery No response to keyboard activity (I have a KVM extender on the machine, its LED blinks, it does the

Re: boot0cfg

2003-03-05 Thread Kevin Oberman
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 09:25:53 +0200 Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Last weekend I had to reinstall Windows XP on my PC and certainly I lost boot manager. After booting from CD and mounting as root ad0 device, I replaced boot0 record using the following command line :

Re: Freeze after APIC_IO: Testing 8254 interrupt delivery

2003-03-05 Thread Simon L. Nielsen
On 2003.03.05 20:52:21 +0100, Attila Nagy wrote: Our newly bought Fujitsu-Siemens F250 boots with the GENERIC kernel, but with a recent, SMP-capable CURRENT it freezes after the following line: APIC_IO: Testing 8254 interrupt delivery I had the same problem with a FSC P250 (same motherboard)

Re: Freeze after APIC_IO: Testing 8254 interrupt delivery

2003-03-05 Thread Attila Nagy
Hello, I had the same problem with a FSC P250 (same motherboard) using 4.7-REL. It works in SMP mode with a recent 4-STABLE (after MFC of HTT). It appears to only work if HyperThreading is enabled. False alarm. I switched from cvsup.freebsd.org to cvsup2.freebsd.org, updated the tree,

Re: boot0cfg

2003-03-05 Thread Darryl Okahata
Kevin Oberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For any system less than about 4 year old and may older systems, you really want to use this option. The other possibility, if both FreeBSD and XP are installed on the same disk, is to just use XP's boot selector to select which one to boot. It can

Kerberos IV exiting tree for 5.1-RELEASE

2003-03-05 Thread Jacques A. Vidrine
Hello Gentlefolk, In the next couple of weeks, I will be removing Kerberos IV from -CURRENT. I will also be re-organizing the Kerberos 5 bits so that the utilities have their `normal' names (e.g. `kinit' rather than `k5init') and replacing Kerberos 4 support with Kerberos 5 support in

-O2 broke ppp NAT

2003-03-05 Thread Nuno Teixeira
Hello to all, For the first time I compile current-p3 - current-p4 with -march=pentium2 -O2 -mmmx -pipe and aparently everything works ok except ppp -nat. NAT just don't work on my network. All machines are able to ping except ftp, http, etc. I rebuild everything with no CPUTYPE? and CFLAGS and

Re: Plea for base system trim

2003-03-05 Thread Doug Barton
On Wed, 5 Mar 2003, Adrian Steinmann wrote: I use this command in my build script to force apache13+modssl to use the openssl in base. # Use base openssl (OpenSSL 0.9.7a as of Feb 19 2003) cd /usr/ports/www/apache13-modssl cp Makefile Makefile- sed -ie

HEADSUP: GEOM/devstat centralization patch

2003-03-05 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
Ok, next in the NO_GEOM cleanup series: http://phk.freebsd.dk/patch/devstat.patch This patch centralizes the devstat handling for all disk device drivers under GEOM in geom_disk.c As a side effect this makes 40 #include sys/devicestat.h lines surplus to requirements and some

RE: boot0cfg

2003-03-05 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 03:26, John Baldwin wrote: It is strange that only F1 works (start Windows XP), while F3 play some sound. Pressing F5 starts Windows XP, but it could be because Windows on my second disk. Yes I know that there are other boot managers like GRUB, but it is another

RE: IP over IEEE1394?

2003-03-05 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 01:06, Cagle, John (ISS-Houston) wrote: Wouldn't you need a firewire switch to do a cluster of more than 2 nodes? Or are you thinking of using multiple firewire interfaces per node? Firewire supports daisy chaining devices, and multiple masters. I have done laptop -

Re: Plea for base system trim

2003-03-05 Thread The Anarcat
On Wed Mar 05, 2003 at 02:29:00PM -0800, Doug Barton wrote: On Wed, 5 Mar 2003, Adrian Steinmann wrote: I use this command in my build script to force apache13+modssl to use the openssl in base. # Use base openssl (OpenSSL 0.9.7a as of Feb 19 2003) cd /usr/ports/www/apache13-modssl

Re: Plea for base system trim

2003-03-05 Thread Philip Paeps
On 2003-03-05 02:14:16 (-0800), Doug Barton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 5 Mar 2003, Subscriber wrote: Would the powers that be please consider removing sendmail, bind and openssl from the base system, as was done for perl with 5.0? For example, as BIND maintainer I actually _support_

Bluetooth stack for FreeBSD

2003-03-05 Thread Maksim Yevmenkin
Dear Hackers, I'm very pleased to announce that another release is available for download at http://www.geocities.com/m_evmenkin/ngbt-fbsd-20030305.tar.gz The Bluetooth sockets layer has been cleaned up. People should not see any WITNESS complains with new code. Locking issues have been

Re: SCHED_ULE ok again. feedback please?

2003-03-05 Thread James Satterfield
My first impression of SCHED_ULE is slow. I only say this because the first thing I fire up after starting X is Eterm with a transparant+shaded theme. Even with the old scheduler this Eterm wasn't too snappy, but with SCHED_ULE it hangs X for about 1-2 seconds. I'm currently running a kernel

Re: Plea for base system trim

2003-03-05 Thread Doug Barton
On Wed, 5 Mar 2003, The Anarcat wrote: Juste jumping in... Couldn't you just: sed -i.orig -e pattern Makefile No, because sed -i is evil, and will cause you to have hairy palms. -- This .signature sanitized for your protection To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with

Re: Plea for base system trim

2003-03-05 Thread The Anarcat
On Wed Mar 05, 2003 at 03:52:22PM -0800, Doug Barton wrote: On Wed, 5 Mar 2003, The Anarcat wrote: Juste jumping in... Couldn't you just: sed -i.orig -e pattern Makefile No, because sed -i is evil, and will cause you to have hairy palms. What? A. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL

Re: CVSROOT directory gone?

2003-03-05 Thread David Leimbach
Ah... my bad thanks for the response. I wish I actually had time to read all the emails I actually get :) Dave On Wednesday, March 5, 2003, at 08:34 AM, Michael Hostbaek wrote: The following mail was sent to current@ from Peter Wemm yesterday: snip Anybody who uses the cvs-supfile example to

Re: IP over IEEE1394?

2003-03-05 Thread David Leimbach
Well there are firewire hubs and the machines I typically do this on are Macs which generally have 2 firewire ports... you can make a small ring network that way. Dave On Wednesday, March 5, 2003, at 08:36 AM, Cagle, John (ISS-Houston) wrote: Wouldn't you need a firewire switch to do a cluster

Re: IP over IEEE1394?

2003-03-05 Thread David Leimbach
I hadn't thought of this Interesting :) Dave On Wednesday, March 5, 2003, at 08:41 AM, Christopher Fowler wrote: You can run IP via PPP. PPPD is used all the time for VPN. I've got 2 networks that are combined via PPPD over a tunnel because they are both on private networks and have only 1

Re: Plea for base system trim

2003-03-05 Thread Doug Barton
On Thu, 6 Mar 2003, Philip Paeps wrote: Is it actually possible for one to build a custom release without the ``unnecessary'' BIND bits? I haven't grepped the source, forgive me, but what does 'NO_BIND=true' actually do? If I were to make a release like that, would that end me up without

Re: IP over IEEE1394?

2003-03-05 Thread David Leimbach
On Wednesday, March 5, 2003, at 10:13 AM, Christopher Fowler wrote: If toy are using PVM or similar technologies, would'nt the best route to be to pick a transport that is the fastest. Last thing you want is messages to be bogged down in transport. Assuming you can afford the hundreds of

Re: IP over IEEE1394?

2003-03-05 Thread David Leimbach
The interconnect is just 10% of the whole cluster story. Firewire is one possibility, but Fibrechannel you could do today if you wanted to. We have Fibrechannel support in the Qlogic isp(4) driver (thanks Matt!) today. Yeah... if you are lucky 10% :). In fact latency in messages isn't as

Re: Plea for base system trim

2003-03-05 Thread Philip Paeps
On 2003-03-05 16:46:04 (-0800), Doug Barton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 6 Mar 2003, Philip Paeps wrote: Is it actually possible for one to build a custom release without the ``unnecessary'' BIND bits? I haven't grepped the source, forgive me, but what does 'NO_BIND=true' actually do?

Re: ATA MODE_SENSE_BIG timeout

2003-03-05 Thread David Xu
- Original Message - From: Luoqi Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: David Xu [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 8:44 AM Subject: RE: ATA MODE_SENSE_BIG timeout For those want to fix ATA code, I have another problem with CURRENT. I have a Tyan Tiger 230T

Re: Plea for base system trim

2003-03-05 Thread Brad Knowles
At 2:07 AM +0100 2003/03/06, Philip Paeps wrote: Speaking of ndc, I think that's a BIND8-ism. Indeed, it is. With BIND-9, ndc won't even work -- Unix sockets aren't supported, and IP sockets are secured with crypto keys. Could the port be

USB makes system totally FUBAR

2003-03-05 Thread Sean Kelly
First off, please note that I had to use a serial console to get all the information in this message. Whenever the kernel panic'd, it locked my system hard. This isn't normally the case, but it was with this issue. I have a SanDisk Corporation(0x0781) ImageMate CompactFlash USB CF reader(0x0002).

Re: Plea for base system trim

2003-03-05 Thread Doug Barton
On Thu, 6 Mar 2003, Philip Paeps wrote: That way, both named and ndc see the same picture of the system, in and out of the chroot tree. Speaking of ndc, I think that's a BIND8-ism. Not _exactly_ true, but yes, ndc is what you use to manage BIND 8. All comparisons to tools that you may or

Re: Plea for base system trim

2003-03-05 Thread Philip Paeps
On 2003-03-06 02:17:19 (+0100), Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 2:07 AM +0100 2003/03/06, Philip Paeps wrote: Speaking of ndc, I think that's a BIND8-ism. Indeed, it is. With BIND-9, ndc won't even work I discovered that the unpleasant way. Typing ndc gave me a long list of

witness: nfs buf queue

2003-03-05 Thread Jonathan Lemon
Doing a kernel build over NFS on today's -current gives a pile of following error messages during the final link phase: Acquiring lockmgr lock nfs with the following non-sleepablelocks held: exclusive sleep mutex buf queue lock r = 0 (0xc0427b60) locked @ ../../../kern/vfs_bio.c:2107 Acquiring

Re: -O2 broke ppp NAT

2003-03-05 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 10:00:20PM +, Nuno Teixeira wrote: I rebuild everything with no CPUTYPE? and CFLAGS and ppp -nat is working again. I know that this isn't a important issue or bug because there are lots of warnings about gcc optimizations because the system may become unstable.

WITNESS panic in netinet/tcp_input.c

2003-03-05 Thread Sean Kelly
It seems like I'm being handed kernel panics on a platter today. I just got a WITNESS-related one in /usr/src/sys/netinet/tcp_input.c:2190. And actually, in the process of writing this message the first time, it happened again. I've since booted to an older kernel. The kernel this comes from is

Re: [PATCH 5.x] netns

2003-03-05 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Guys; I have to agree with Terry that the fixes for netns should be committed, and furthermore they should be MFC (using his first patch perhaps). It's a nightmare to try to rescue anything from the Attic, at least it would be nice to have it in better shape before killing it. The flame fest on

Re: [PATCH 5.x] netns

2003-03-05 Thread David O'Brien
On Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 04:03:49AM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote: Peter Wemm wrote: Terry Lambert wrote: Here are two patches. The first fixes missing pieces in /sys/conf/files and /sys/conf/options, the second fixes all the files that need it in /sys/netns/. You seem to have posted

Re: Removal of netns - politically correct version

2003-03-05 Thread Mark Murray
Terry Lambert writes: Mark Murray wrote: Only if it kills this _really_ dumb debate. In time, it will no longer compile, and then the situation will be the same as just punting to the Attic without the fix. Only if some idiot breaks the API contract again. Whatever happened to you

Re: Removal of netns - politically correct version

2003-03-05 Thread Mark Murray
Terry Lambert writes: Let' start wth the libalias/natd incremental checksum update code; the code is based on RFC1141, instead of RFC1624. As a result, it get updated incorrectly occasionally, because it's using two's complement instead of one's complement math. Per RFC1642: RFC 1141

Re: Removal of netns - politically correct version

2003-03-05 Thread Bob Bishop
Hi At 08:53 5/3/03, Terry Lambert wrote: [...] The code is still useful as a simple implementation, much more easily understood by the student than the current TCP/IP stack, for certain. The same is true for netipx (wc -l *.[ch] is almost identical). -- Bob Bishop +44 (0)118

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2003-03-05 Thread Mark Linimon
On the other hand, there's no compelling reason to dike it out, if it can be made to work. work == not just compiled, but QAed against known-working implementations and correctly documented. Have fun. Looking forward to the patches and logs. mcl To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL

Re: Removal of netns - politically correct version

2003-03-05 Thread Doug Barton
On Wed, 5 Mar 2003, Terry Lambert wrote: The code is still useful as a simple implementation, much more easily understood by the student than the current TCP/IP stack, for certain. And it will still be available. It'll just be available in the Attic. The fact that it will get more broken in

Re: Removal of netns - politically correct version

2003-03-05 Thread Terry Lambert
Juli Mallett wrote: * De: Terry Lambert [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ Data: 2003-03-05 ] [ Subjecte: Re: Removal of netns - politically correct version ] On the other hand, there's no compelling reason to dike it out, if it can be made to work. I would argue that ISA support is more or less

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2003-03-05 Thread Terry Lambert
Mark Linimon wrote: On the other hand, there's no compelling reason to dike it out, if it can be made to work. work == not just compiled, but QAed against known-working implementations and correctly documented. Have fun. Looking forward to the patches and logs. Just to be perfectly

Re: Removal of netns - politically correct version

2003-03-05 Thread Terry Lambert
Doug Barton wrote: On Wed, 5 Mar 2003, Terry Lambert wrote: The code is still useful as a simple implementation, much more easily understood by the student than the current TCP/IP stack, for certain. And it will still be available. It'll just be available in the Attic. The fact that it

Re: Removal of netns - politically correct version

2003-03-05 Thread Doug Barton
On Wed, 5 Mar 2003, Terry Lambert wrote: If you want to make it about failure to attract a maintainer, then do that. Actually several people have made this argument, along with the corollary failure to attract a userbase. -- This .signature sanitized for your protection To Unsubscribe:

Re: Removal of netns - politically correct version

2003-03-05 Thread Randy Bush
It took about 3 years for the updates to get out there so IPv6 was usable i have yet to see a cisco ios image supporting ipv6 that was usable in production environment. and i have tried hard. but i will admit to not having seen apollo networking for over a decade. but i probably have not

Re: Removal of netns - politically correct version

2003-03-05 Thread Terry Lambert
Doug Barton wrote: On Wed, 5 Mar 2003, Terry Lambert wrote: If you want to make it about failure to attract a maintainer, then do that. Actually several people have made this argument, along with the corollary failure to attract a userbase. I would claim that non-working code *repelled*

Re: Removal of netns - politically correct version

2003-03-05 Thread Doug Barton
On Wed, 5 Mar 2003, Terry Lambert wrote: Doug Barton wrote: On Wed, 5 Mar 2003, Terry Lambert wrote: The code is still useful as a simple implementation, much more easily understood by the student than the current TCP/IP stack, for certain. And it will still be available. It'll

Re: Removal of netns - politically correct version

2003-03-05 Thread Mark Murray
Terry Lambert writes: Peter Wemm wrote: Terry Lambert wrote: Is there a compelling reason for removing this working code to the Attic? Terry: will you please check your facts? It takes around 30 seconds to find out that it doesn't even compile. [ ... lots of trivial to fix

Re: Removal of netns - politically correct version

2003-03-05 Thread Juli Mallett
* De: Mark Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ Data: 2003-03-05 ] [ Subjecte: Re: Removal of netns - politically correct version ] Terry Lambert writes: Peter Wemm wrote: Terry Lambert wrote: Is there a compelling reason for removing this working code to the Attic? Terry: will

Re: Removal of netns - politically correct version

2003-03-05 Thread Petri Helenius
i have yet to see a cisco ios image supporting ipv6 that was usable in production environment. and i have tried hard. This is getting OT but on the subject of repelling users, they´re probably trying hard to repel their users to the vendor J boxen. but i will admit to not having seen apollo

Re: Removal of netns - politically correct version

2003-03-05 Thread Mark Murray
Juli Mallett writes: This crap is *s* trivial to fix, it's easier to fix than to watch you guys bitch about it not being fixable. Will it be runnable (as in tested), rather than a compile-only fix? compile-only would be a good state to leave the code in the attic. Only if it

Re: Removal of netns - politically correct version

2003-03-05 Thread Terry Lambert
Mark Murray wrote: Terry Lambert writes: Peter Wemm wrote: Terry: will you please check your facts? It takes around 30 seconds to find out that it doesn't even compile. [ ... lots of trivial to fix warnings and errors ... ] Tell you what, I'll fix these and post a patch. Will

Re: Removal of netns - politically correct version

2003-03-05 Thread Mark Murray
Terry Lambert writes: Mark Murray wrote: Will it be runnable (as in tested), rather than a compile-only fix? Is tested a requirement fo code to be committed or to have it stay in the tree? Both. Be careful of your answer, unless you are willing to remove all code that does not meet that

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