Re: Apples linking

2003-11-29 Thread Peter Jeremy
On Fri, Nov 28, 2003 at 03:46:42AM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote: FWIW: If FreeBSD wanted to use this approach, the safest way to do it would b to split the user and kernel address space mappings; in general, this will only mean modifying uiomove/copy{in|out}[str], and dealing with the address

Re: Apples linking

2003-11-28 Thread Peter Jeremy
On Thu, Nov 27, 2003 at 11:24:23AM -0500, Robert Watson wrote: [Darwin pre-binding] presumably applies to other processor architectures. The one thing that turns me off to this scheme is that I'd like it if we could find a way to represent this using solely existing BSD/UNIX kernel primitives

Re: Apples linking

2003-11-28 Thread Doug Rabson
On Fri, 2003-11-28 at 07:59, Peter Jeremy wrote: On Thu, Nov 27, 2003 at 11:24:23AM -0500, Robert Watson wrote: [Darwin pre-binding] presumably applies to other processor architectures. The one thing that turns me off to this scheme is that I'd like it if we could find a way to represent

Re: Apples linking

2003-11-28 Thread Terry Lambert
David Rhodus wrote: Terry Lambert wrote: FWIW, even though I support the idea of dynamically linking everything, the flipping of the switch there followed this same pattern. First, a disclaimer: this is me speaking for me; I do not speak for Apple. Terry, what are some of the changes that

Re: Apples linking

2003-11-28 Thread Terry Lambert
Robert Watson wrote: On Thu, 27 Nov 2003, David Rhodus wrote: what are some of the changes that Apple made to have everything dynamically linked in darwin ? Has anyone done timed runs lately on dynamically vers. static linking on darwin ? Or did they find just cleaning up the dlopen code

Re: Apples linking

2003-11-27 Thread Robert Watson
On Thu, 27 Nov 2003, David Rhodus wrote: FWIW, even though I support the idea of dynamically linking everything, the flipping of the switch there followed this same pattern. Terry, what are some of the changes that Apple made to have everything dynamically linked in darwin ? Has anyone

Re: Apples linking

2003-11-27 Thread E.B. Dreger
RW Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 11:24:23 -0500 (EST) RW From: Robert Watson [ CC list trimmed ] RW The one thing that turns me off to this scheme is that I'd RW like it if we could find a way to represent this using solely RW existing BSD/UNIX kernel primitives (mmap, et al) and RW userspace, rather