Re: MajorDomo Problems

1999-10-11 Thread Andre Oppermann

Alex wrote:
 
 Tom Embt wrote:
 
  I've been mysteriously unsubscribed from -questions sometime between Oct
  7th and Oct 10th.  My guess puts it at late morning/early afternoon EDT on
  the 7th.
 
  It would seem something is up...  good thing somebody mentioned the 'which'
  command (I'd never heard of it), I was wondering why noone was responding
  to an earlier post ;)
 
 Hey - I was unsubscribed from -cvs-all, -advocacy, -emulation, -hackers,
 -mobile, -multimedia, -new-bus, -announce and -stable!  In other words,
 ALL mailing lists I was subscribed to except -current.
 
 This happened twice!  The first time was a couple of weeks ago - I just
 ignored it and resubscribed - but having to do it again is just too
 much!  Please do something about it, sort it out!  It really sucks
 having to acknowledge every subscribe request and then receive a whole
 bunch of confirmation messages.

majordomo is crap it seems, the freebsd mailing lists should switch
over to ezmlm-idx/qmail... *THAT* works 100% reliable.

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Re: MajorDomo Problems

1999-10-11 Thread Brad Knowles

At 11:01 AM +0200 1999/10/11, Andre Oppermann wrote:

 majordomo is crap it seems, the freebsd mailing lists should switch
 over to ezmlm-idx/qmail... *THAT* works 100% reliable.

I think we can separate MLA issues from MTA issues.  Myself, I've 
had no problems with Majordomo on the various lists I manage, but I 
confess that on the larger mailing lists I prefer to use tools more 
suited for the jobs (such as Listserv).  MLA issues I would be 
willing to discuss relatively dispassionately.

However, if you're going to get into MTA religious discussions, I 
would suggest that people take a long hard look at Postfix instead.


Of course, none of these sorts of discussions are really relevant 
to -current, or for that matter, relevant to any other 
FreeBSD-related mailing list of which I am aware.

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Re: MajorDomo Problems

1999-10-11 Thread Andre Oppermann

Brad Knowles wrote:
 
 At 11:01 AM +0200 1999/10/11, Andre Oppermann wrote:
 
  majordomo is crap it seems, the freebsd mailing lists should switch
  over to ezmlm-idx/qmail... *THAT* works 100% reliable.
 
 I think we can separate MLA issues from MTA issues.  Myself, I've
 had no problems with Majordomo on the various lists I manage, but I
 confess that on the larger mailing lists I prefer to use tools more
 suited for the jobs (such as Listserv).  MLA issues I would be
 willing to discuss relatively dispassionately.

Well, ezmlm works only with qmail because of it's superior VERP
bounce system... otherwise I don't care as long as it is not sendmail.

 However, if you're going to get into MTA religious discussions, I
 would suggest that people take a long hard look at Postfix instead.

And at qmail. But yes, that doesn't belong here.

 Of course, none of these sorts of discussions are really relevant
 to -current, or for that matter, relevant to any other
 FreeBSD-related mailing list of which I am aware.

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Re: MajorDomo Problems

1999-10-11 Thread Jonathan M. Bresler


yesyou or your provider was bouncing your email.

i unsubscribed you on Oct 07 05:40:22.

jmb


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Re: MajorDomo Problems

1999-10-11 Thread Robert Watson

Love to know why my freebsd-arch subscription disappeared, although the
rest appeared to stick around.  I just resubscribed, but was subscribed
before (but not sure about until when) as

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

What is strange is that if that was bouncing, I would have expected, say,
my -current subscription to bounce just as much and be unsubscribed. 

From the files in the directory, maybe it is the case that a reboot/crash
hit hub as a subscription request was being processed?  (does it rewrite
the file in place, or does it copy the file out with changes, then do a
double rename to put it back in place over the old version?)

Robert

On Mon, 11 Oct 1999, Jonathan M. Bresler wrote:

 
 yesyou or your provider was bouncing your email.
 
 i unsubscribed you on Oct 07 05:40:22.
 
 jmb
 
 
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Re: MajorDomo Problems

1999-10-11 Thread Garrett Wollman

On Mon, 11 Oct 1999 11:01:43 +0200, Andre Oppermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

 majordomo is crap it seems, the freebsd mailing lists should switch
 over to ezmlm-idx/qmail... *THAT* works 100% reliable.

Bull$#!^.  I run a couple of fairly large mailing-lists under
majordomo, and nobody ever gets ``accidentally'' unsubscribed.

On the other hand, quite a few people suddenly start bouncing their
mail and get *intentionally* unsubscribed (by me).

We have appointed jmb as postmaster, and so long as he has that job,
the list management will be done using whatever mechanisms he deems
appropriate.

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Re: MajorDomo Problems

1999-10-11 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Garrett Wollman writes:

We have appointed jmb as postmaster, and so long as he has that job,
the list management will be done using whatever mechanisms he deems
appropriate.

Amen!

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Re: Majordomo problems (Re: The eventual fate of BLOCK devices.)

1999-10-10 Thread Jonathan M. Bresler


send it to postmaster instead.

jmb


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Re: MajorDomo Problems

1999-10-10 Thread Alex

Tom Embt wrote:
 
 I've been mysteriously unsubscribed from -questions sometime between Oct
 7th and Oct 10th.  My guess puts it at late morning/early afternoon EDT on
 the 7th.
 
 It would seem something is up...  good thing somebody mentioned the 'which'
 command (I'd never heard of it), I was wondering why noone was responding
 to an earlier post ;)


Hey - I was unsubscribed from -cvs-all, -advocacy, -emulation, -hackers,
-mobile, -multimedia, -new-bus, -announce and -stable!  In other words,
ALL mailing lists I was subscribed to except -current.

This happened twice!  The first time was a couple of weeks ago - I just
ignored it and resubscribed - but having to do it again is just too
much!  Please do something about it, sort it out!  It really sucks
having to acknowledge every subscribe request and then receive a whole
bunch of confirmation messages.

Alex


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