More benchmarking stuff...

1999-09-17 Thread Brad Knowles
Folks, In addition to the vinum vs. DPT SmartRAID IV benchmarking that I had done, I've also started doing filesystem/OS-level benchmarking with a program called "postmark" that Network Appliance wrote to show off the performance of their NetApp Filers. See

Weird syscons keyboard behaviour

1999-09-17 Thread Mike Pritchard
I've noticed some odd syscons keyboard behaviour over the past month or so. Sometimes I get a vty that outputs PC graphics characters for all of my input. This is always at a "login:" prompt. I think I can duplicate this by typing a bunch of garbage at a login prompt, but I don't feel like

Re: Weird syscons keyboard behaviour

1999-09-17 Thread Daniel Eischen
Mike Pritchard wrote: I've noticed some odd syscons keyboard behaviour over the past month or so. Sometimes I get a vty that outputs PC graphics characters for all of my input. This is always at a "login:" prompt. I think I can duplicate this by typing a bunch of garbage at a login prompt,

Re: Weird syscons keyboard behaviour

1999-09-17 Thread Kazutaka YOKOTA
I've noticed some odd syscons keyboard behaviour over the past month or so. Sometimes I get a vty that outputs PC graphics characters for all of my input. This is always at a "login:" prompt. I think I can duplicate this by typing a bunch of garbage at a login prompt, but I don't feel like

Re: More benchmarking stuff...

1999-09-17 Thread Alex Le Heux
On Fri, Sep 17, 1999 at 11:24:41AM +0200, Brad Knowles wrote: Their best results on an F630 with 1000 files and 50,000 transactions were 253 transactions per second, 799.91 KBytes/sec read, and 817.89 KBytes/sec written. I just ran this same test on an old PPro 200Mhz system

Re: Weird syscons keyboard behaviour

1999-09-17 Thread Vallo Kallaste
On Fri, Sep 17, 1999 at 02:45:08PM +0200, Soren Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: prompt or during the kernel is probing devices) or while the keyboard driver is being initialized, you may see the problem. Hmm I've seen the problem where on "loose" the input at the loader prompt but it

No Subject

1999-09-17 Thread Claude Guay

Re: More benchmarking stuff...

1999-09-17 Thread Brad Knowles
At 2:03 PM +0200 1999/9/17, Brad Knowles wrote: For this stage, I now get: Transactions per second:33 KBytes Read per second: 79.66 KBytes Written per second: 144.31 For the third and final stage (20,000 files and

Re: More benchmarking stuff...

1999-09-17 Thread Don Lewis
On Sep 17, 2:03pm, Brad Knowles wrote: } Subject: Re: More benchmarking stuff... } } Sadly, when I go to the second set of tests (20,000 files and } 50,000 transactions), my performance goes into the crapper. I know } that softupdates trades memory for speed, and I guess this PPro 200

Re: More benchmarking stuff...

1999-09-17 Thread Brad Knowles
At 3:33 PM +0200 1999/9/17, Brad Knowles wrote: For the third and final stage (20,000 files and 100,000 operations), I get the following results: Transactions per second:38 KBytes Read per second: 102.84 KBytes Written per

Re: More benchmarking stuff...

1999-09-17 Thread Brad Knowles
At 4:35 PM +0200 1999/9/17, Brad Knowles wrote: I'm running the second tests now. The second series of tests was *highly* educational. For the first time ever with postmark, I saw errors like this: Error: cannot open '34878' for writing Error: cannot open '34879' for writing

Re: More benchmarking stuff...

1999-09-17 Thread Brad Knowles
At 8:05 AM -0700 1999/9/17, Thomas Dean wrote: These tests with softupdates do not appear to be a test of the disk i/o system, but, a test of memory. Are the files deleted before they are actually written to disk? Good question. I don't know the answer. I know that the process is

Re: More benchmarking stuff...

1999-09-17 Thread Luke
My results running postmark on a PII-450 with 196MB RAM and an IBM Deskstar DJNA 352030 running -current as of a few weeks ago are: 1000/5UFS+softupdates MFS NFS tr/s 218 1562100 read kb/s 699.05 4870

Re: More benchmarking stuff...

1999-09-17 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Sep 17), Brad Knowles said: At 8:05 AM -0700 1999/9/17, Thomas Dean wrote: Are the files deleted before they are actually written to disk? Good question. I don't know the answer. I know that the process is to create all the files first, then operate on them

Re: An FS question perhaps... non blocking I/O.

1999-09-17 Thread John Polstra
John-Mark Gurney wrote: John Polstra scribbled this message on Sep 12: Just to avoid duplicated effort: I currently have work in progress on a "fslog" pseudo-device. It enables you to monitor a filesystem and receive notifications for all interesting changes to files and directories.

Re: More benchmarking stuff...

1999-09-17 Thread Julian Elischer
On Fri, 17 Sep 1999, Dan Nelson wrote: In the last episode (Sep 17), Brad Knowles said: At 8:05 AM -0700 1999/9/17, Thomas Dean wrote: Are the files deleted before they are actually written to disk? Good question. I don't know the answer. I know that the process is to create

Re: An FS question perhaps... non blocking I/O.

1999-09-17 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Polstra writes: ugh, why aren't you extending poll to work on files and directories to get this info?? it would make MUCH more sense to extend poll to do this.. any specific reason why it wasn't done this way? Yes. Last time I checked, our CVS

Re: More benchmarking stuff...

1999-09-17 Thread Brad Knowles
At 10:46 AM -0500 1999/9/17, Dan Nelson wrote: Hmm. But when you're running a mail spool, you _want_ your files to get committed to disk, don't you? True enough. RFC 1123 requires that you *not* lost mail messages for stupid reasons like fileservers crashing, etc You do want

Re: More benchmarking stuff...

1999-09-17 Thread Julian Elischer
On Fri, 17 Sep 1999, Matthew Dillon wrote: : files sitting in unflushed disk caches and you reboot, those files are : lost. Softupdated just guarantees that the disk will be in a stable : state after a crash, not that all data written before the crash will be : available. : : :Soft

Patch to add bridging to vr Ethernet driver

1999-09-17 Thread lyndon
Could someone *please* review and commit this patch to /sys/pci/if_vr.c? I've been trying since June to get this into the source tree. If/when this goes in you can close kern/12385. Thanks. --lyndon --- /sys/pci/if_vr.cFri Aug 27 18:50:59 1999 +++ if_vr.c Mon Sep 6 21:57:43 1999 @@

Re: 2xPIIIx450 results NFS results (was More benchmarking stuff...)

1999-09-17 Thread Brad Knowles
At 11:56 AM -0700 1999/9/17, Matthew Dillon wrote: In real-life... for example, with a mail or web server, the namecache tends to be somewhat more effective then 50%. The web servers at BEST generally had a 95%+ name cache hit rate. The name cache misses are what are

Panic (From -chat's Re: Real Audio program that discusses FreeBSD, solaris, and Linux)

1999-09-17 Thread Matthew D. Fuller
http://www.thesync.com/etc/archives.html When I tried to view the program linked here, my -CURRENT system went kablouie. FreeBSD mortis.futuresouth.com 4.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #0: Tue Sep 14 16:48:29 CDT 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/compile/MORTIS i386 I have a coredump.

Re: Panic (From -chat's Re: Real Audio program that discusses FreeBSD, solaris, and Linux)

1999-09-17 Thread Sean O'Connell
hi- This looks awfully familiar to what rvplayer does to me on my -current box. Of course, no one has responded at all ot anything that I sent out... What kind of soundcard do you have? Mine is Crystal CS4236B shipped with my box (a Digital 5510)... I tried sending an email to cameron grant

Re: 2xPIIIx450 results NFS results (was More benchmarking stuff...)

1999-09-17 Thread Brad Knowles
At 1:02 PM -0700 1999/9/17, Matthew Dillon wrote: Sendmail does not get into trouble with queue files it is able to retire quickly. Where sendmail gets into trouble is with queue files it ISN'T able to retire quickly. This is why you *see* 10,000+ files in mqueue at times.

Re: Panic (From -chat's Re: Real Audio program that discusses FreeBSD, solaris, and Linux)

1999-09-17 Thread Matthew D. Fuller
On Fri, Sep 17, 1999 at 04:02:37PM -0400, a little birdie told me that Sean O'Connell remarked hi- This looks awfully familiar to what rvplayer does to me on my -current box. Of course, no one has responded at all ot anything that I sent out... I've never had any troubles out of it

Re: Weird syscons keyboard behaviour

1999-09-17 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike Pritchard writes: : I've noticed some odd syscons keyboard behaviour over the past : month or so. Sometimes I get a vty that outputs PC graphics characters : for all of my input. This is always at a "login:" prompt. I think : I can duplicate this by typing a

Re: An FS question perhaps... non blocking I/O.

1999-09-17 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] John Polstra writes: : There are now 63000 files and directories in the repository. : That's 2**3 * 3**2 * 5**3 * 7. If we concatenate the exponents, : we get 3231, which is 3**2 * 359. Repeating, we get 21, which : is 3 * 7. One more repetition and

Re: more

1999-09-17 Thread Matthew Dillon
:On Sun, 12 Sep 1999, Chris Costello wrote: : : On Sun, Sep 12, 1999, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: : Not with me, and I am sure Warner and a few other die hard ``more'' users : are going to be chimming in here as soon as they get to this... : :Down with "n"! Up with "/"! : :No, up with '?'. :

Re: More benchmarking stuff...

1999-09-17 Thread Matthew Dillon
: files sitting in unflushed disk caches and you reboot, those files are : lost. Softupdated just guarantees that the disk will be in a stable : state after a crash, not that all data written before the crash will be : available. : : :Soft updates guarantees that when an fsync() is done, it's

Re: make world speed-up patch (was Re: optional 'make release' speed-uppatch)

1999-09-17 Thread Matthew Dillon
:The snippet from /usr/src/Makefile.inc1 that I'm talking about (in my :own little world) was this: : :.if !defined(NOCLEAN) :@echo :@echo "--" :@echo " Cleaning up the temporary ${OBJFORMAT} build tree" :

Re: More benchmarking stuff...

1999-09-17 Thread Matthew Dillon
:Also FreeBSD only caches a limited number of directory blocks. This :was discussed on -hackers in April. Search for the subject "Directories :not VMIO cached at all!". Matt Dillon posted a patch to to better :cache directories (at the possible expense of wasted RAM and which breaks :NFS) in

HEADs UP - VM, VN, SWAP, NFS commits made

1999-09-17 Thread Matthew Dillon
A large number of commits have been made relating to the following: VM a number of minor swap related bugs have been fixed madvise() enhancements prepatory 'lastr' field added to vm_map_entry VN swap-backed VN now works again major

Re: More benchmarking stuff...

1999-09-17 Thread Matthew Dillon
:According to kirk FSYNC() does the right thing and 'sync()' doesn't. : Lets see... well, it will sync the file state, but it will not necessarily sync the related directory entry (as far as I can tell). So if you take a case such as sendmail creating a queue file, fsync will

2xPIIIx450 results NFS results (was More benchmarking stuff...)

1999-09-17 Thread Matthew Dillon
Ok, these are on duel P3 450 boxes running -CURRENT, with the NFS performance enhancements. Local disk is an 18G seacrate on an LVD/W scsi bus. UFS tests: on 1G duel P3-450 machine, 1x18G seagate SCSI-LW bus NFS tests: 1G duel P3-450 client, 512M duel P3-450 server,

Re: 2xPIIIx450 results NFS results

1999-09-17 Thread N
Matthew Dillon wrote: [..] One thing of interest to note, especially as it relates to the performance degredation with a larger number of files, is that 'systat -vm 1' reports an approximately 50% name-cache hit no matter what postmark is doing. In otherwords, postmark is

Re: 2xPIIIx450 results NFS results

1999-09-17 Thread Matthew Dillon
: I/O, and then closing it. : :4.0-CURRENT (SMP on an ASUS P2B-DS with two CPU's installed; BIOS revision :1008.A, running `systat -vm 1' gives the normal display but without any :numbers filled in, then switches over to an empty screen that says: :... Whenever systat or top do weird

Re: An FS question perhaps... non blocking I/O.

1999-09-17 Thread John W. DeBoskey
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Polstra writes: ugh, why aren't you extending poll to work on files and directories to get this info?? it would make MUCH more sense to extend poll to do this.. any specific reason why it wasn't done this way? Yes. Last time I checked, our CVS

Re: more

1999-09-17 Thread Luke
On 12-Sep-99 Matthew Dillon wrote: :On Sun, 12 Sep 1999, Chris Costello wrote: : : On Sun, Sep 12, 1999, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: : Not with me, and I am sure Warner and a few other die hard ``more'' : users : are going to be chimming in here as soon as they get to this... : :Down with

Re: 2xPIIIx450 results NFS results

1999-09-17 Thread Adam Strohl
I've been getting this too on 4.0-C, just rebuild last night, still there. top displays: CPU states: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 0.0% interrupt, 0.0% idle AND loads 2 make the machine very unresponsive, its like SMP was before that pci_support.c patch a month or two ago. - (